I will put this as simply as I can — if the recent New Yorker article by Keith Gessen — The Case for Negotiating with Russia — accurately reflects the only two policy positions being debated in Washington regarding how to respond to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, then a war between Russia and the United States is inevitable. There is no viable path for negotiations.
Gessen introduces you to Samuel Charap, a RAND analyst who Gessen claims, “This piece is symptomatic of the insanity that infects the establishment foreign policy community in Washington, DC and New York. Gessen “offers a different perspective on the war in Ukraine.”
And what is that perspective?
In the wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea and incursion into eastern Ukraine, in 2014, Charap wrote a book, with the Harvard political scientist Timothy Colton, called “Everyone Loses. . . . Russia was the aggressor, to be sure.
Blaming Russia for the “incursion into eastern Ukraine” is like blaming Poland for starting World War II with Nazi Germany. It is a lie. Charap discredits himself as a serious academic by repeating this propaganda. He blithely ignores the fact that the Government in Kiev launched the attacks on the population in the Donbass and the opinions of the majority Russian speaking inhabitants of Crimea at the time. If you’re thinking of buying the Charap book, save your money.
Gessen makes no attempt to hide his bias either. Even after solid documentary evidence proving the falsity of the claim that Russia interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of Donald Trump, Gessen still claims that specious allegation is true:
I first met Charap in the summer of 2017, not long after the book came out, and in the midst of a maelstrom of anger at Russia for its interference in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election. Robert Mueller had been appointed as special counsel for the Justice Department, Donald Trump had labelled the investigation a hoax, and Congress was in the process of passing a bipartisan sanctions bill against Russia.
According to Gessen, there are three major issues regarding the war in Ukraine:
The argument in the U.S. has split into two profoundly opposed camps. On the one side are people—not very many, at least publicly—like Charap, who argue that there might be a way to end the war sooner rather than later by freezing the conflict in place, and working to secure and rebuild the large part of Ukraine that is not under Russian occupation. On the other side are those who believe that this is no solution and the war must be fought until Putin is soundly defeated and humiliated. . . .
Another disagreement centers on the possibility of a decisive Ukrainian battlefield victory. Charap believes that neither side has the resources to knock the other out of the fight entirely. . . . But the other side of this debate has been more vocal. They see a highly motivated Ukrainian Army, supported by a highly motivated populace. They point to the relative cheapness, to the U.S., of a war that pins down one of its major adversaries. And they believe that, given enough time, and enough Western weapons and training, Ukraine could take back a fair amount, if not all, of its territory; sever the land bridge to Crimea; and get close enough to Crimea to deter any future Russian military operations. . . .
The final disagreement concerns Putin’s intentions. The “fight to the end” camp believes that, if Putin is not decisively defeated, he will continue attacking Ukraine. . . . Charap, of course, disagrees. He believes that it is possible to make a ceasefire “sticky”—by including inducements and punishments, mostly through sanctions, and by monitoring the situation closely.
Charap and his faux opponents in Washington still do not get it — Russia will not, under any circumstance, allow the Ukrainian military to continue to exist with neo-Nazi soldiers in its ranks or allow Ukraine to become a part of NATO. Non-negotiable. Oh, and one more thing — it is not giving any territory back to Ukraine, especially Crimea.
Charap’s competence as a foreign policy expert is in real question if this quote from Gessen’s piece is accurate:
To Charap, “The strategic defeat of Russia has already taken place.” It took place in the first months of the war, when Russian aggression and Ukrainian resistance helped galvanize a united European response. “Their international reputation, their international economic position, these ties with Europe that had been constructed over decades—literally, physically constructed—were rendered useless overnight,”
Yeah, right. Ignore Russia’s burgeoning relations with China, India, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Brazil. Who needs Europe when you, Russia, are the 5th largest GDP in the world in terms of purchasing parity power? What is it exactly that Russia “needs” from Europe? I know the answer — NOT ONE DAMN THING. Charap’s myopic preoccupation with Europe vis-a-vis Russia has blinded him to the historical earthquake that is taking place as Russia is leading the way in setting up an alternative to the U.S. controlled “rules based” international order.
I am holding out hope that Gessen’s article presenting a faux Manichean choices regarding Russia are not the only two positions being discussed behind closed doors. The catastrophic disaster unfolding for Ukraine in the Donbass should not be ignored. The only question is how long will Washington politicians, pundits and media mavens continue to bullshit themselves with false dreams of a Ukrainian victory over Russia. Biden and his national security team are acting more and more like a degenerate meth addict and lack the will to ask for help. That kind of addictive behavior always ends in tragedy. I fear that is where we are headed.
Larry Sir,
We all agree with your words, but give us some direction.
I try to post logical statements and all too often I see in the replies most people want an enemy, someone to fight.
This is so dangerous for all off us. Can we march, demonstrate, …what?
If you have any energy left could you organize a logic sit in on the State Dept.
How much direction do you need?
The “Off Ramp,” has been seeded, hinted and now spoken about. Read the article again.
QUOTE….. “like Charap, who argue that there might be a way to end the war sooner rather than later by freezing the conflict in place, and working to secure and rebuild the large part of Ukraine that is not under Russian occupation.” ….End quote.
There you have it, there is nothing else or will there be!
MONEY, deindustrialisation of colonial EU, sell the fools replacement weapons that do not work as advertised. BlackRock gets the billion acres of farm land cheaper than at a steal.
Rinse and repeat, War rolls again. Target Russian resources.
For a reference
Any American Indian reservation. Africa, Middle East, India and Asia then there is Canada, Australia and New Zealand who even don’t know it. (Essay life style, free money and middle class Tax Deductions is all it needs.)
PS : you are most likely a FBI dude planting a “Sting thingy,” and 5,000 year jail sentence to be imposed on a normal American citizen.
Funny how “God,” works….you spend your life not understanding why you never get a break. 40 years goes by and suddenly people all over the planet can read and hear your wise words, giving them comfort and hope.
How? …because a job vacancy has been left open for the assigned moment, for the chosen candidate. History is full of strange employment results. Churchill and Putin are just a couple of weird developments.
NOT TO MENTION….Tump and Biden bookends.
According to Western wishes, there’s only one off ramp left – and that’s for Zelensky along with all of Ukraine’s still illegitimate coup-installed leadership to take a long walk off a short-ramped pier, and Biden and his bipartisan cohorts to show them the way. A Mussolini-style, Ukrainian-built ramp – just as good.
The Europeans? One harsh winter’s work on Borrell’s petunia garden will finish breaking their teetering will as it is, and all for their better and the world’s at large.
These ‘pundits’ can mutter and sputter from here to eternity. If Russia stays the course, it’s over. My sincerest regrets to the fallen. It never had to be. May Nuland and her ilk RIH.
Agree…. and Black Rock will NEVER get a piece of the Ukraine racket, that’s for damned sure.
USA is a spent, dying, mafia state.
I don’t think that they will pull out the nukes, as badly as they would like. Neuland and Co are essentially cowards and will always cover their slimy asses.
American people? Oblivious, as usual. Occupied with the trivial, therefore 100% responsibility on them as well. Never preoccupied with the massive misery that their leaders have wrecked on half the world, now the guns are aimed squarely at them. Perhaps they will finally wake up.
Strange however that they still don’t get who the real enemy is, that big fat smiling and mocking elephant in the middle of the room. Standing ovatians in the joint sessions, massive criminality looking the plebs straight in the face. Nobody wants to call a Spade a Spade, that taboo subject that have the USA squarely by the balls.
Hey, son of the revolution, the founders, your so called antincendio, warned of it.
Your colleague Giraldi, a brave and foresighted man, is the only one out there in your circles calling it out.
You can find him on Unz, he is telling it like it is.
I am sure that Rx and Ch would like to see the demise of the monster in a soft landing, I hope that can be so.
I read Unz Review every day. I am brand new to a truly astounding racial awakening as a White man. Up until quite recently I loathed and disparaged my own tribe. I attributed all manner of evil and horrors wrought upon this planet to our very existence. Again, I am just now shaking off the torpor of my slumber, but I am now undertaking in earnest an education as to where to actually lay the blame for the vast majority of the human race’s ills. I don’t wish to involve Mr. Johnson in any undue controversy on his well-researched and well-regarded platform, so I won’t say the quiet part out loud. I would only implore more racially-conscious White citizens of the world to spend a little time pursuing the food for thought available at Unz Review, while we are still able to.
American people are not to blame. They are the most heavily propagandized people on the planet. Few wage slaves have the time after working three minimum wage jobs to pay for their “shared rental” apartment to bypass the media censorship and go in search of the truth. Only retirees, trust funders or unemployed have that luxury. Propaganda and censorship is sophisticated, extremely effective and massively funded industrial mind control
The only cure for an otherwise incurable cancer is: cut it out! And the USA, and their brutally brazen Capitalism represent this cancer. And the only effective surgery would be a Soviet or French style revolution, but none of you guys dares say it. And yeah, to do so would threaten at least your job oe even your life. So much for your the shining sample of democracy all the world has to adopt or else. But the train has left the station quite a while ago, because the war mongering and profiteering oligarchy has bought Congress and the “law and order” forces, paying the way above appropriate wages thus their loyalty. So poor mankind: go down the train!!!
I agree, the divide we’re up against is not so much racial, but criminally ultra-wealthy against the rest. These criminals can be kings or paupers, but they are insanely wealthy and evil, beyond intrinsic morality, and they’re playing the rest of humanity as a game. They are from all races and places, but they have wealth beyond belief, and above the law, as governments all over are now controlled or subjected. Only the people at large, once made aware, can turn this around, if not too late…
QUOTE..-. “like Charap, who argue that there might be a way to end the war sooner rather than later by freezing the conflict in place, and working to secure and rebuild the large part of Ukraine that is not under
Russian occupation.”… end quote.
Are you delusional?
Or you just read the parts that suit your worldview?
There is no way Russia will allow this conflict to be frozen.
They are ending this disgusting American proxy war, NATO and the American empire. Period.
Ukraine will be completely dewesternized, demilitarized and denazified. Period.
Not a damn thing America or NATO can do about it.
It is about time America lost it’s ability to bully the world. They have grossly abused their power and privilege.
With primaries around the corner for every one of the 425 Congressional House Seats and a third of the Senate, how hard would it be to find ONE AMERICAN to go to all those members home offices and hold a sign??
One would make two and four and within no time there would be nice sized crowds “lobbying” for peace in Ukraine and Niger and Syria etc.
These corrupt politicians need to get the message loud and clear:
Stop the wars and militarism, stop the propaganda and lying, no more lockdowns, no mandated jabs, U.S. out of W.H.O. etc.
Super peaceful, kinda like what SAG and WGA are currently doing in front of movie studios!
Plus it would be fun to get to know your neighbors! Have pizza’s delivered etc.
We could do this!
NO HOPE FOR PEACE IN UKRAINE
Since the erection of the 4th Reich it has become clear that the Global population is up against a clique of corrupt people who has reached Elite status in western societies by plundering their fellow man, and destroying foreign Nations by wars.
These people operates like psychopaths with no regard for neither the People in the Nations they command our sons and daughters to attack, nor for the consequential backlash their decades of military aggression and sanctions will inevitable strike back at our own nations.
And the consequences are already clear: The rest of the world is uniting against us.
They are canceling our Nations from participating in international trade via the BRICS organization.
They are denying our Nation’s Energy and minerals necessary for our modern way of life.
And they are erecting military alliances against us.
During the Tucker Carlson interview with Adam Corolla, Carlson stated that The Biden Administration will start a full scale war against Russia in 2024, in order to stay in power.
Simultaneously NATO and the Biden administration are planning legislation to rid future US president of ending the NATO proxy war in Ukraine, by having NATO Nations signing individual military alliance with Ukraine.
The 1 Billion people living in western Nations must realize that our psychopathic leaders have driven us into direct confrontation with 4 Billion people, and 2 nuclear armed Nations.
If there is any place where Regime change is absolutely necessary it is in the Capitals of western Nations.
We have to rid our Nations of these psychopaths before they kill us all.
Totally agreement with the Dane here
The problem is that even now after 3 years of the plandemic and soon 2 years proxy war too many sheeps are cought in the spiderweb of the mass media
I don’t have any hope that we will be able to get rid of our criminal leader’s anytime soon, the situation needs to get a lot worse before enough are waking up
“We all agree with your words, but give us some direction.”
Run to the hills. Russian ones preferably.
“I try to post logical statements and all too often I see in the replies most people want an enemy, someone to fight.”
In times of war, you need to use war logic. The link to basic principle was posted here earlier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Basic_Principles_of_War_Propaganda
Get a passport.
Direction?
OK, sell everything you own, take all that cash to the nearest port and bribe your way onto a ship and get out while it is still possible.
Try Colonel Douglas Macgregor’s new website:
https://ourcountryourchoice.com/
and get on the mailing list.
“The existential threats to the American people are not thousands of miles away on some foreign battlefield. The threats are here, at home.”
Americans have to organize – doubt if it’s possible to vote our way out of this.
The US ruling elite are stupid, and mentally ill. And we’re all going to suffer for it.
I simply consider them not deserving to be Americans, although many here I’m sure think the opposite, pejoratively that is. Not yet sure who’s right.
“deserving to be Americans”
From logical standpoint this makes no sense whatsoever. One does not need to deserve, to be born in the specific geographical area. It’s lottery.
Only immigrants need to jump over hurdles to get in, but are considered non deserving by those born there, for some reason. In addition to that, this whole thing is reversed, when talking about immigration that happened earlier in history.
“Not yet sure who’s right.”
Might makes right.
💯
We are in the WMD phase: Saddam has them so we must attack Iraq, or, launch a “preemptive invasion,” to use the necon term of art.
The Democrat-military-media leviathan needs a crisis to steal the election.
Is this how conscientious Germans felt as they watched Hitler gear up for war?
We are 1930s Germany. Expect the same results.
Agree, we are 1930’s Germany. January 6 was like the burning of the Reichstag building to our leaders. One difference though, Germany had a booming economy.
“Is this how conscientious Germans felt as they watched Hitler gear up for war?”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_…
I think you need to fix this paragraph. That quotation – “This piece is …. – is out of place/not in the article.
(Gessen introduces you to Samuel Charap, a RAND analyst who Gessen claims, “This piece is symptomatic of the insanity that infects the establishment foreign policy community in Washington, DC and New York. Gessen “offers a different perspective on the war in Ukraine.”)
If they think they will be taking my son to fight in another of their illegitimate wars they’re in for a very rude awakening. I know plenty of other who feel the same way, including former combat experienced US military vets who now don’t think any young men should even join the US military.
I would bitch slap a child of mine that tried to join. And there has never been a male in my family that did not do a hitch. If that tells you anything.
The only reason to join the US military now is so they’ll pay for your sex change.
That is SERIOUSLY funny!
And true!
America will split into about 5 different countries. Strap on’s; pillow biters; BLM; safe space freaks;…….those that believe in God and family.
And seriously sad at the same time.
It was already getting ridiculous in the ‘80s, but today’s US military has jumped the diversity shark and has joined the forces of darkness.
Here here. For me, if bitchslapping doesn’t work, leg-breaking will soon follow.
My family has given enough, and there isn’t a lot worth fighting for in this country anyways. My brother was sniped through the spinal cord in Iraq looking for those WMDs that Bush 43 later joked about at a press club dinner. Now he is a quadriplegic. My other brother served in Afghanistan. He wasn’t injured, but one of his groomsmen from his wedding rolled over an IED while driving an MRAP. His legs are still attached, but with the crush fractures, he doesn’t stand still anymore. And mentally he isn’t and will never be the same.
Let it burn. Focus on protecting your family and surviving.
The person who said “get a passport” in reply to the first comment to this article gave the best advice. In other words, have a Plan B.
Ok everyone, what’s your Plan B?
This is exactly where I am at. I caught one bullet for this country. And studying my expat options now. And by the way? Except for making sure they have a red white n blue beer can for the 4th of July, there ain’t no one else fighting for this country.
I hear ya. Independence Day is my least favorite holiday. Dumbasses on TV telling some idiot reporter about all the free-dumbs they enjoy thanks to all the troops who serve overseas. And dumbasses lighting off fireworks for days on end and at all hours of the night.
How many other countries have over 800 military bases outside their border to protect their citizens? Ah, but that would require too much thought from Boobus Americanus and taking a break from stuffing their faces with glyphosate-enriched slop and watching Tik Tok videos.
As far as expat options, sign up for Simon Black’s free newsletter over at sovereignman.com. You’ll get daily emails about having a Plan B and they also provide information on attractive countries to bug out to. There is also a paid service called Sovereign Man Confidential I think that gets you access to their detailed research on countries for expat options. And I think he has a YouTube channel now.
Good luck with the search.
It is frightening! Our government is being led by children who have no clue .
It’s the Dawn of the Mummies and the Twilight of the Living all rolled into one ghastly experience.
For children, you have hopes, but for the old imbeciles like Mitch McConnell who is having multiple mini-strokes in public, and they’re playing “Weekend at Barney’s” -carry his semi-corpse around, nodding and ‘making decisions,” what hopes for this horror-show?
That was quite a Biden impression he gave the other day. Staring off into the vastness of space with the vastness between his ears, a moment frozen in time and mind.
Total agreement Larry. Putin has been burnt too many times on Western lies. He is not freezing. He is not stopping. There will be no Korea. Reports that Putin is not answering Macron or Scholz’s phone calls are very telling on this account. He is also refusing to talk to Pedo Joe Biden.
I am not quite as convinced this will lead to direct war. The US lunatics are a lot more focused on their planned war with China. So, they will continue to send whatever dregs of arms they can dig up. While bullying their European bitches to disarm themselves by sending everything in the cupboard. While trying to rebuild USA supplies for the Taiwan lunacy.
Now Russia is the interesting question. They only pushed two offenses really. Mariupol and Bakhmut. And Wagner is gone with its convicts. And God Love Russia for being casualty adverse with their soldiers. And while Ukraine is rapidly degrading beyond offensive capabilities? They have enough to fight a stubborn and bloody retreat. Which could go on for years.
I think Putin has to pull the infrastructure plug. ALL the lights off. ALL the heat off this winter. ALL ports destroyed that are still sending grain and supplies out to the south. A good tell here will be Putin’s response to Erdogan’s begging on the grain deal during his planned visit. If Putin blows off Erdogan on this, that is your sign. But even with infrastructure blows, Ukraine could resist for years. AS long as the West keeps the dribble of supplies coming in. And every time they lose ground, they shorten their lines. And Russia’s supply lines get longer. Russia’s detailed lines of defense writ large ala Ukraine.
The wild cards are many. Winter. Not only for military operations, but for economies. Europe seems to be heading toward another warmer winter. Which will let them barely survive another one. But their economies continue to die without Russian cheap energy. And at some point, elections will start cropping up. I see no way Scholz survives an election. Even the French may hold their nose and elect Le Pen. The UK? Who cares in all honesty.
And there is no hurry for the US. All of our idiotic candidates support the Ukrainian debacle. The US public swallows the pablum, and thinks we are winning anyway. Biden wins in any case, and keep the farce going. If this was over in 2 years, I would be shocked.
I can still remember watching Alex Jones maybe 15 years ago and he had a guest on named Joel Skousen. Skousen claimed then that the US was building D.U.M.B.s because they planned a war against both Russia and China. They would absorb strike(s) by both and then destroy both of them in what amounts to a nuclear holocaust. I thought this guy is nuts. Just sounded so over the top but considering where we’re at today with these lunatics at the helm, who knows? I haven’t paid attention to Jones since around 2010-2012. I looked Skousen up and while I don’t know much about the man, his background did not strike me as someone who was on the fringe, though I’m sure I didn’t see all of it. Just hard not to remember that talk he had with Jones and what he said the nuts running the show here had planned.
I recognized the name. Skousen is an expert on strategic relocations, like in case of nukes, where to live and “where to run,” he wrote a book long ago, I bought it last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkWs5Doadq4
Look up Skousen’s father…
If I’m not mistaken, his father was an FBI agent in D.C. during the Second World War. Later (IIRC) became Chief of Police in Salt Lake City and wrote two (self-published?) books — The Naked Communist and The Naked Capitalist.
Happened across the later book, used, in Fairbanks winter of 1984. Interesting reads, especially considering our current course.
Thanks, I’ll check the books.
Reports that Putin is not answering Macron or Scholz’s phone calls are very telling on this account.
Have you noticed that shortly after that, Scholz made calls for more ‘definitive’ arms to Ukraine and Borrell is pushing for accelerated training of their troops? Apparently, they’re miffed. They really are too immature to be where they are.
Why do elections matter? Is there anyone running who will do anything different? Usually there are only two candidates for the top job who have a non-zero chance of winning and they both have identical opinions on foreign policy, unsurprisingly since they both parrot whatever Washington tells them to. The people in EU countries (and in the US for that matter) can’t vote their way out of this situation.
The Gessen article was soundly thrashed by several MoA bloggers, so I won’t bother to repeat myself. I will, though, quote one comment worth quoting:
“Re: the … New Yorker article … the author is Keith Gessen, brother of deranged Putin basher Masha Gessen. So I wasn’t surprised to discover that Keith is just as deranged, and careless with the truth, as his looney sister.” Wikipedia informs us Masha Gessen is Jewish, Russian by birth, and is “Described as “Russia’s leading LGBT rights activist”. You can’t make this stuff up. Wikipedia entry for Masha Gessen
“This is one of the rare times when b offered an article that was simply not worth reading. All I got from it is that the New Yorker types are batsh*t crazy, which I already knew. Also, Wikipedia’s long list of US “news outlets” that publish her poison serves to show how fully the US establishment has bought into this narrative. So if you haven’t already turned off those poison outlets, might as well turn them off now.”
Posted by: JessDTruth
The Gessens…aren’t they the Russian expat equivalent of the Nuland/Kagan clan? You’d think they could at least feign sex with a beheaded chicken on church grounds and entertain us while wallowing in their hogwash.
They are true scum. Her book won a big prize in NY so short while ago.
Was a big hit with another Jew Russian hater Rachel Maddow. Surprised?
Not really. Their siloviki are a lot smarter than our siloviki, no matter what that herd of madcows say.
I hope the Protagonist of this site takes notice of who Gessen is and research a little of the sister.
That, in essecence, is what we are dealing with in the clueless USA.
That in a nutshell is what is destroying América.
Take it to the bank.
**** “This is one of the rare times when b offered an article that was simply not worth reading.” ****
I recognized I’d already read that Gessen article, but couldn’t recall the circumstances.
It really was dreadful.
War is both highly lucrative and a great distraction. This is last resort bread and circus politics – setting the tent on fire while the clowns make off with the bread.
El_Kabong has picked a wonderful name from some of the funniest cartoons of the late 1950’s and early 1960’s. They were a bit of laughter as I and the other soldiers recuperated from the kinetic effects of our all-expenses-paid camping trip in Southeast Asia.
People like Samuel Charap are essentially oxygen wasters on this planet. They never served and never suffered. I can only hope there is a special level in Dante’s hell for them because they are going to ruin a lot of lives.
I hope he can save his son. I have at times told young men the same thing. It is not worth it. Your country hates you and the idiot savants in Washington are too cowardly to fight their own wars.
Much like the proverbial ‘meth addict’. he will only quit when confronted with no other choices.
The article just continues the lies that Russia just decided on a whim to invade Ukraine.
The article just continues the lies that Russia just decided on a whim to invade Ukraine.
More likely it was from a whiff of rotting civilian flesh in Donbass from Ukraine’s ‘legitimate’ right to retake its ‘sovereign territory’ by all means necessary, as opposed to Serbia’s illegitimate wrong to retake it’s non-sovereign territory, inspite of UN resolutions to the contrary and targeting combatants while avoiding civilians, as opposed to how Ukraine and how NATO did it in ’99.
That said, the stink emanating from western halls of non-think will most-likely eventually end the world as we know it, as it’s one of those matter and anti-matter living within one’s own western being moments which make an unpleasant outcome inevitable.
Personally, I’m beginning to anticipate this western matter and anti-matter cohabitation (logic is illogic, war is peace business) within its own ‘sphere of influence’ will eventually end in a nanosecond implosion rivaling that of a carbon fiber submersible at the ocean’s depths, designed by a gyro gearloose civilian analog to the west’s ‘military and civilian geniuses’ at work.
Apolo Creed (rocky IV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2C37OrlaVQ&t=22s
Comment
https://sonar21.com/no-hope-for-peace-in-ukraine-only-a-war-with-the-united-states-and-nato/#comment-152863
I came to that article by a different link (Moon of Alabama, who thought it good – no idea why), and started reading it and then picked up speed, and then skimmed, and then closed the window as a waste of time.
Gessen could not understand that Russia may have taken risks early in the war due to biolabs, and thought Ukraine decimated the “juicy” line of tanks – if the “reasonable voice” in DC is this out of touch, the war will continue.
I didnt read to find out if he acknowledged that the US can’t make enough shells or Patriots or that the Javelin and Stingers are useless, or that the Western economies are on the skids, and that Europe is about to lose its northern African gas sources.
Read today where Biden wants to sign legislation or sign an Executive Order forbidding any future president from ending support for our proxy war in Ukraine.
Maybe Larry can find out the facts on this doozie?
A basic rule of parliaments is that no parliament can bind a future parliament to any policy. Each parliament is sovereign while it is in power. Similarly, no president can bind a future president. And, as we recently saw, no supreme court can bind a future supreme court.
Live not by lies.
Speak the truth.
Jordan Peterson last month: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v8lq_vnklI
And as Larry points out, right there in the title. This is not a war better Russia and Ukraine, but “Only a War With the United States and NATO”.
That’s such an important recognition and it’s been way to slow in coming.
Perhaps the attrition has passed its purpose so surely to minimise the damage to civilian Ukrainians it is time for Russia to send in the troops and march to Kiev.
Or at least to Sumy in the north and Transnistria in the south.
Perhaps, but the Russians might want winter to work its magic on Europe first… those populations *need* a little more motivation to rid themselves of their political albatrosses. Besides, there is a lot of ground to cover, Ukraine still has significant forces, and there’s no need to rush.
Great another (((russian))) explaining the virtues of the acela corridor psychopaths and shitheads. A more amoral scum there never were. The average Democrat voter is also scum. Anybody who voted for Joe can never be trusted and anybody who supports dc nyc Boston axis of evil deserves nothing but scorn.
Think tankers gotta eat too hence all the copium articles. They might be suicidal but their sponsors aren’t. Can’t make money if everything is reduced to rubble and ash.
A full scale war would require a draft in the US. I doubt anyone is dumb enough to die for the Washington cabal. And forced conscription is impossible with our heavily armed populace.
I just found this on YOUTUBE from a foreign creator. Stated that 100 American pilots have died in Ukraine and that the 30 American soldiers who have died from “Legionnaires” is to cover up for their KIA in UKRAINE. Can you find out? So angry now!! Our leaders are lying and will be the DEATH of us all! They INSANE!!
YouTube: BORZZIKMAN
“The List Is Increasing! Russia Has Eliminated Another High-Ranking NATO General In Ukraine!”
Too bad they didn’t take the NATO fop alive and let him sing for his supper in a Siberian dungeon. And maybe hand over a few receipts and see where all the ripped off taxes were going. NATO actors and fast talkers were well paid for their antics all these decades, and if they did not have the sense to bail last year with all the MSM graffiti on the wall, then they are only asking to get mauled by the bear.
Does anybody know this guy? Borzzikman, his Videos are short but very revealing and informativ.
Like this one
https://youtu.be/km_EHdpHJi0?si=nDLxSBBOSWMICZWK
Sorry, it was 30 pilots. I was so upset I wasn’t thining or typing straight! I sent him an email. Funny, you’re the only one that noticed the comment.
He was the only one replying, I’m sure hundreds have read your comment and watched the video, like me. Thanks!
Try also to see the good things in life, our independence to read and watch the info we want or a simple but enormous things like the magic of a sunset or a nightswim besides the beaver.
I’m convinced we see the last desperate sings of “life” of the elite. They must be desperate and see their collapse comming.
I love the words by Thaddeus Golas: “when you learn to love hell, you will be in heaven”. Peace!
My worry is that, even if Ukraine surrenders, that the West (and ukraine will turn the terrorism dials up to 11. Asymmetrical terrorist actions in Russia and its Allies. Coup attempts, sabotage, on and on and on.
I worry that this type of thing will be used to try and peel Russian allies away, or weaken them (and Russia of course).
Our elites don’t care if they set the world on fire, they would rather rule over the ashes than let the world go its own way.
Sigh. I’m just a little ray of sunshine 🫣
The United States is running headlong to destruction and they’re taking Europe on the ride with them straight into Hell. While I am not an overly religious man, I do believe in divine providence of sorts. Divine retribution as well. To that end, the US had better learn and learn it very soon that no one, no nation can run around the world like we have, threatening, bombing, invading etc forever before someone(s) steps up and says enough is enough and does something about it. 3-4 million dead, including untold numbers of civilians all from the so-called “War On Terror” and all based upon false premises. It’s been acknowledged that Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911 nor even the Anthrax attacks that Israel provided the BS intel for(Repub Guard gave it to Mohammed Atta in Prague) All admitted to be incorrect. So why did 3-4 million have to die again? Can someone fill me in on that? I strongly believe the US is going to pay a terrible price for all of this and it may well be fatal to us all. These are absolutely evil people running this nation and it ain’t just Joe Biden. These people are criminals with a capital C, every last damnable one of them. Weren’t there cases even within the pages of the Bible wherein God used others including armies as a weapon of His wrath? I think that is exactly what is heading our way.
They will try asymmetric warfare/terrorist strategies.
There will be blood.
However, Russia is pretty adept at handling this kind of this thing e.g., in Georgia etc. discovering terrorist cells and terminating them. Remember Russians and Ukrainians are indistinguishable linguistically, physically and culturally.
Russians will also unleash some bad news of their own e.g., Chechan hit squads specializing in Nazis.
Since NATO is now outright attacking Russia proper, Putin now has no alternative but to hammer NATO directly………
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/ora-miden-gia-ti-moscha-natoikes-dynameis-apo-tin-valtiki-epitethikan-me-21-drones-enantion-tou-pskof-lene-oi-rosoi-oi-tourkoi-dinoun-leptomereies-tis-epicheirisis/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB
Again, Paul Craig Roberts is correct……….
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/08/24/is-putin-finally-understanding/
So… why are the lights still on in Kiev, again ?
I know Russia wants to “de-nazify” as many Ukie Nazis as possible while they try to set up the BRICS world order, but with the US helping the Ukies terrorize the Russian people every day with drone incursions, the Russians might find a way to pick up the pace a bit.
Methodical ? Yes. Enablers of the West ? Yes. Something has got to give.
You get it wrong about terrorism. Most of “value added terror” in terrorism is consequent to fearmongering done by the press after events , not the event itself.
The effective existential menace in terrorism nears nothing on a strategic standpoint, even with big events like 9/11 that are an exception , not the norm.
Looks how easy it was for the MSM to sell hatred against goat-herders in Afghanistan who’s problems are more about surviving the next winter than geopolitics to begin with. Guess how easy it is now for the Russian press to blame everything on the khokhols ?
Russia resisted the Wehrmacht, 80 years ago and Ukraine was just a small part of the problem. And they were backed by the West too, back then.
Gessen. Charap. Two of these things are just like the other.
The Charaps, just coincidentally appear to have gotten their surname in or around Ternopil in ye good old Polish and now (but of course) Ukrainian part of the (hold your breath, here it comes)… Pale.
Well knock me down with a feather.
And they *would* therefore advise and pontificate the way they do. Straight out of Central Casting. Every. Single. Time.
The predictability is becoming too boring. Can’t they stump for a half-decent SG more often? What’s VDH up to these days?
It is because they belong to the only ethno-religious group without borders that always selflessly strive to “repair the world” (Tikkum Olan). Uniquely possessed of what Michael Jones called their “revolutionary spirit.” Deborah Lecter bravely acknowledges that such a leadership role will make them hated but the mission is supremely important.
US will get it’s shit pushed in. They can’t even supply Ukraine with 1/10th ammo Russia fires let alone a themselves. Not to mention staging and logistics where standoff weapons wouldnt let a build up and russian subs would sink all supply lines. Nothing changed since 1950s in a ground war in Europe, only way to stop Russia is nuclear weapons. Thats MAD so unless you think USA is willing to get wiped out not happening.
Of course not! The US does not have the economy to declare war on anyone! Much less to Russia with the armaments industry working 24/7 and with soldiers at a war rate that the GIs weren’t even good for warming up. But you make a good point. How does the US deploy soldiers in Europe today? Does Russia let them board like Saddam or destroy them all on US shore? Two nuclear powers do not fight conventional wars! Only through a proxy! And the UA is already on its last legs! And it’s just this fact that makes a lot of people nervous!
Spoiler alert:
Russia is already at war with NATO.
Correct. We have 2 sides with differing views on what the fight is about, but they’re fighting nonetheless.
Russia knows it needs to stop NATO from expanding and get the Nazis out of Ukraine, and the US wants to take over the world. Plus, the uniparty state in the US is in trouble and might think a hot war with Russia is the way out of the mess brewing for the 2024 elections. They could be that stupid.
Tucker Carlson commented on that in his latest, even positing that they might even assassinate Trump if the lawfare doesn’t work and the have no other choice left. Desperate people do desperate things, and they are clearly desperate. Nuland is even looking a bit grim over the loss of influence in Africa. It’s all falling apart for the empire, so we can’t assume anything, no matter how illogical or stupid, is off the table.
Side note: there’s talk of Tucker doing an interview with Putin. That would top the 230 million hits his Trump interview got, I’d bet.
…there’s talk of Tucker doing an interview with Putin. That would top the 230 million hits his Trump interview got, I’d bet. — Mac
Safe bet. One that scares the bejesus out of the Biden Administration.
Hopefully Tucker will stay out of Mercedes… their cars sometimes accelerate unexpectedly, crash and burn in spectacular single-vehicle accidents.
LAPD officials said on Friday that no foul play was suspected in the fatal accident, although that did little to quell theories about [award-winning investigative journalist Micheal Hastings] death.
Investigators are trying to determine whether there was a mechanical problem with the car, according to the Los Angeles Times. The [C250] burst into flames after hitting a tree in the one-car accident at 4:20 a.m. Law enforcement sources said the car was believed to have been traveling at a high rate of speed. — 2013 Fox News report
https://www.foxnews.com/us/journalist-michael-hastings-sent-chilling-email-to-colleagues-before-death
The US today does not have the economy to go to war with Texas, let alone with Russia! On a day when the Prime Minister of Spain says that Putin still has many friends in Europe. It finally looks like 30 people attended the closed doors funeral of Russia’s last hero in St. Petersburg.
Reading Larry and Andrei Martyanov’s take on the quality of the collective wests leadership class it seems inevitable that there will be general conflict. It’s a race to the bottom with economic/financial malaise and war as choices. Economic collapse masked by pandemic measures and faked/fudged stats ensures elites will choose war to divert their populations rather than face the pitchforks; better to send the best and brightest off to the front than have them at the lever of the gallows. The rich men from richmond can sense like the rats they are that the waterline is rising. The enablers are just doing what enablers do, going along to get along.
The ukronazi reich is only the kinetic manifestation of WWIII, currently the primary kinetic, but other kinetic actions are ongoing in the mid-East and Africa. There is much more going on.
Lets’s look at BRICS and de-dollarization. Worth a serious reading and consideration is Alistair Crooke and MK Bhandrakumar latest:
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2023/08/28/a-second-geo-strategic-shoe-other-than-ukraine-is-dropping/
https://www.indianpunchline.com/india-the-reluctant-brics-traveller/
The BRICS additions made are significant. There has been plenty of recognition of this and it is easily available. Look into it.
What looks to be shifting is the worldview due to to the RF drawing the line. The exposure of the weakness of OTAN and it’s wunderwaffe when a legitimate power is in oppposition it telling. This includes insane stupidity of the EOL’s prime weapon of ‘sanctions’ against the world’s premier economy of self-suficiency in resources and advanced industrial capacity and manufacturing. How is that working out? Whose economies are being destroyed? How supernaturally stupid must the EOL be?
The results are plain to see for all. The lessons are being taken. The exposure of the paper-mache EOL military and economy by the RF action and resilience has given cover for less powerful states in Latin America, Africa and Asia to decouple themselves from the colonial chains and economic exploitation.
No, WWIII isn’t over. Yes, kinetic actions are still likely and likely to expand. However, WWIII is lost by the EOL. The only resort rational is recognition and voluntary decoupling leading to new era of multi-polarity and hopefully mutually beneficial cooperation. Expect that to happen in the current climate of insane anti-human peversion and death culture lead by psychopaths and sociopaths whose operating system is Nihilistic Demonic ‘Narrative’ fanstsies???
Now, there still is the mechanism of the loss. The nuclear destruction option is the most severe mechanism. It is very possible and the odds of that happening seeming to be growing.
Morons like the latest blathering spawn to get attention – Glesson, IMO, prove that it is getting more dangerous. How many such idiots keep popping-up, saying the same tired lies are there? Like yesterday’s starred mediocracies. It is seemiingless endless. It is all in the service of the ‘Narrative.’ It is all lies.
Acknowledging that the pushback is less visible than the disinformatitzia, and there is pushback, but one wonders how deep the rot and decay has festered.
Interesting timez…
Both links very interesting indeed. Here is the NATO response to BRICS11 :
A NATO honcho Fehringer history lesson to make Kerry blush :
https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1695733432045752800
“I apologize for all Colonial crimes during European Imperialism from 1492 to 1975 I am deeply sorry I apologize But please that is now 50 years ago The only colonial powers left today are Russia, China, Iran and to some extent India and Brazil I call fight today colonialism!”
Numerous tweets all week, maps included, from this Austrian NATO Enlargement honcho Fehringer. None of the maps mention mere Ukraine – self- puffed up blowfish, look at the policy goals.
The cause of this sudden mask-dropping, baring the NATO iron fist in the velvet glove? – BRICS11 success.
Simply put, NATO has declared war on ALL BRICS members Russia and China most emphatically.
This Austrian NATO Enlargement chief Fehringer makes the cited New Yorker scribblers look like slugs in Borrell’s petunia garden !
Fehringer will probably claim the West isn’t a party in the conflict in Ukraine either:
Leaked recordings expose shocking state corruption in ‘US governed’ Moldova
“Moldova now is governed by the US Ambassador… He is practically governing Moldova at this particular stage. You have hundreds of consultants for the EU…working for each and every ministry here in Moldova. So it is under very, very strict control on the part of the EU.”
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/05/18/leaked-recordings-state-corruption-moldova/
Diplomatic cables reveal US pressured Pakistan to remove Imran Khan
When Ambassador Asad Majeed Khan tried to clarify Pakistan’s position on Ukraine, Lu retorted that it was the PM’s behaviour that is “problematic”, and added that “if the no-confidence vote against the Prime Minister succeeds, all will be forgiven in Washington”.
“Otherwise, I think it will be tough going ahead,” Lu appears to threaten, according to the diplomatic cable, and added that Europe will follow the US lead in the “isolation of the prime minister”.
https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/diplomatic-cables-reveal-us-pressured-pakistan-to-remove-imran-khan-624007
Then you have Victoria Nuland’s leaked phone call selecting the next Ukrainian government, Jeffery Sachs’ recent interview with The Duran where he was told that no countries dare cross the United States because of fear of the CIA, ditto for Rodrigo Duterte in the Philippines, etc. …the list is endless. (sigh)
The West does not have colonies anymore, just vassal states. (lol)
We need to get rid of these A-hole in DC and do it quick. The tyranny stuff was stupid but worth a chuckle. But nuclear war is just bat shit crazy.
The sub standard state of current American statesman is abysmal. Where are the statesmen of old who had vision, clarity and wisdom? These fools running this nation are a joke by comparison. They live in a fantasy world of their own making. Sadly, they very well may be the authors of WWIII……
There is no statecraft in America. We are stuck with a cartel of power abusing political social climbers. They attend fancy schools and are well connected, but that’s all they have to offer us, in other words, nothing but trouble. They are comfortable discussing things they don’t understand and worse, take action on them.
They do this because they can do as they please, they make things up as they go along for lack of proper education, they cover for each other, one lies and the other swears to it, there is no accountability and they know they will never get fired for getting thousands of people killed as a result of their violent and pathological ignorance.
The State Department is where diplomacy goes to croak.
The frontmen we are indeed jokers, but they’re only puppets. They’re awful and despicable, but not whom we should worry about. They’re dispensable.
However, somewhere out there in the unseen realm are the puppet masters with sinister clarity, vision and purpose. Those are whom we should worry about and who need to be exposed.
“Charap discredits himself as a serious academic by repeating….”
He still thinks Russia ‘interfered’ with the US Presidential election. That discredits his judgement not just as an academic.
Have you ever considered they maybe know russia did interfere because they themselves had already rigged the result?
Harap in the old days in Poland meant the whip for warding hunting dogs off from the hunted game.
I’ve got a solution that will end this without bloodshed & without causing WW3, but it will take a concerted effort by all the Nations of the World & this is it? STOP using the USD as a means of transacting & use your own currencies! Also, OPEC along with Saudi Arabia must end the US Petrodollar System that enables the USA to print money to infinity which funds it’s Military & MIC without going bankrupt! STOP this Free lunch that enables America to get away with its murderous Military villainy around the Globe & their whole Financial House of cards collapses into hyperinflation & when that happens, America becomes Weimar Germany! Dry up the money supply & you end this Empire, once & for all!
“The strategic defeat of Russia has already taken place.”
I think one has to interpret exactly what they mean by that, as “strategic defeat” means something different to that class. Basically, what it means is that Putin & Russia have been CANCELLED, or thrown out of Josep Borrell’s garden (“Europe is a garden. The rest of the world is a jungle” ).
Putin has been strategically defeated the same way that Glenn Greenwald, Jordan Peterson, Tucker Carlson, Douglas Macgregor, Michael Flynn, Scott Adams, Ed Snowden, etc. have been… forever banished from Western centers of power, the G7 club, the Western oligarch WEF/ Davos class and traditional media and social media. It is like being put on the Hollywood blacklist of the 1950s or being excommunicated from the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages.
For most people coming out of the Western Ivy League / University professional class, all of the above is worse than death and a “strategic defeat”. So, when seen like that “strategic defeat” makes sense. Putin won’t be at next years’ Build a Bear Conference, where the world’s leaders meet to shape the destiny of mankind. Pity him. 🙁
ROFL!!
Exactly!
Two possibilities to interpret that statement. Either it’s delusional thinking, or an outright lie. Since the establishment has no problem with either/both, it’s tough to judge. But hey, it’s going to be the narrative from here on out given the reality of Ukraine’s loss on the ground. Russia winning will be spun as a “strategic defeat” where we somehow “won” something. The key is undefined terms. Look at the “climate crisis,” We keep hearing there is one, yet nobody anywhere actually defined what that is, no metrics, nothing. Same for “strategic defeat” where we’ll hear that ad nauseam with no definition of what it means.
Superb! Best post on this thread.🤣
Turning around mainstream media is out of the question.
They are hopeless propaganda parrots.
Yet…one way to stem the false info spread is by laughing at and mocking internet voices. They are hardly tuned to MSM anyway.
But internet has a majority influence in teacher effects. Essentially it is by peer pressure and our peers are in the internet not the MSM.
My current target is Markos of Dailykos com. He talks as if he bleeds Ukri patriotism.
But he is one big fooled idiot. With a thousand slithering sycophants squeaking
“Oh yes Lord.”
I occassionally check kos’s trance-babble and LMFAO
at his gullible simple mind.
Flooding laughter can drown him
…and the rest.
‘.. always ends in tragedy. I fear that is where we are headed.’
Think back to the early 90s when the necons made their political debut. As I recall it was on the morrow of the collapse of the SU. Again, as I recall, NOBODY was expecting this. Everybody within the precincts of the Beltway and such were cozily ensconced within their ideological positions. And then .. this massive silence. Something was happening that was not anticipated. I thought it was an exemplary Buddhistic moment, pure emptiness. Sort of a stunned silence. But it was at that point that the necons, in their opportunistic way, jumped into the fray: ‘The Russians Blinked!!! Those chess masters of the Kremlin were scared of ole Ron Dog, Rapture Ready Ron.’ Faced with Christian believers invested in Star Wars technology, and confident in their eternal reward, the Russians folded.
This is exactly according to the ‘gentlemen and philosophers’ script they imbibed from the late Prof. Leo Strauss. Strauss was the teacher of a generation of former Trotskyists transiting from international socialism to international liberalism, or ‘neoliberalism’ (and Zionism). Strauss concocted a meme he termed ‘gentlemen and philosophers’. This was modeled on the early exchange between Socrates and Cephalus in the opening pages of The Republic. At a certain point in the discussion Cephalus, the ageing patriarch of the wealthy and influential Athenian family, retires from the debate saying that he had his religious/sacrifical obligations to attend to. Cephulus is a Believer. Socrates is a Philosopher, who believes in nothing. Strauss was trying to tell his specifically Jewish students that their political business is to manage the affairs of the wealthy gentlemen, the believers, for whom the eternal life is primary. (Strauss was once asked if he ‘believed’ in his religion. He said he was not a believer but was rather ‘observant’. Strauss’s actual philosophical position was a sort of general issue existentialism that was widespread in the mid 20th century. You have to produce your own beliefs and then live them.) In any case the Straussians found their man in Ronald Reagan, and subsequently the younger Bush. At first they attempted to rouse the American Christian Right against the Islamist movements that threatened Israel, while managing Islamist militants hostile to the godless Communists/Russians. Although the Christian right was largely a spent political force late in the second Bush admin, yet they kept supporting Jihadi militants as their proxies to choice, and still, as in Syria and maybe Africa. More recently the neocons have gained control over Ukrainian Nazi’s in their ongoing efforts to enforce the Wolferwitz doctrine. We note here that both the jihadis and the nazis are death cults. Not exactly ‘gentlemen’ but .. believers, yes. They believe that death on the battlefield is the purpose of life. (The Russians seem to understand this and have tailored their stratagems accordingly).
But returning to the initial point: their entree into big power geopolitics was a bluff based upon a highly manipulative form of wishful thinking applied to the American Christian right. For several decades they have maintained their power on the backs of religious and ideological radicals. But perhaps the end is in sight. They’re running out of Nazis. What then? Will they marshal an army of woke vegans against .. China? (But they’ll have to teach them how to shoot first. Hey Larry .. !) But we’ll see. Maybe the impeachment proceedings will sweep them into the dustpan. Again, we shall see.
Strauss’ Secret Kingdom of “philosophers” advising the “gentlemen” seemed at hand on 9/11 . Some call this the Uniparty, perhaps afraid to confront the “gentlemen”.
OMG! it means we have to read Socrates!
Pragmatic baloney takes over, and they go along to get along to hell.
“their entree into big power geopolitics was a bluff based upon a highly manipulative form of wishful thinking applied to the American Christian right.”
“They’re running out of Nazis. ”
It is normal in rigorous endeavours to define terms of reference in advance, and in “democracy” it is better not to define terms of reference at all to facilitate the “democratic practice” of each engaging in “forming their own” speculations, as you illustrate.
Science is predicated on doubt and co-operation, whilst choice of “beginnings” even within/framing of linear paradigms in “investigation” of lateral processes are self-defeating.
I would suggest that consequently you failed to assign significance to some contextual pre-existing vectors that facilitated the efforts of Mr. Strauss including but not restricted to, observations of Ms. Leni Riefenstahl on communication interpreted by Mr. Johnson as being restricted to “propaganda”.
From inception the primary facilitator of “The United States of America” was fear of “god” and almost everyone/everything else, which Mr. Strauss emulated to an audience prepared before he took fearful refuge in “The United States of America”.
“The United States of America” and the observations of Mr. Strauss and his disciples remain predicated on fear – which encouraged two Jewish boys to invent Superman, and some disciples of Mr. Strauss to attempt to “Make America Great Again.”
Rigorous analyses informed by Mr. Socrates and many others suggest that :
They’re running out of the fearful.
Aus: Escaping Attrition: Ukraine Rolls the Dice – Big Serge
The Zaporizhia Summer Blockbuster
……..
“Problem 1: The Hidden Defensive Layer
At this point, we need to acknowledge something that everybody missed about Russia’s defense. I previously expressed high confidence that Ukraine’s forces would be unable to breach the Russian defenses, but I mistakenly believed that the Russian defense would function according to the classic Soviet defense-in-depth principles (elucidated in great detail by the writings of David Glantz, for example).
Such a defense, put simply, is open to the idea that the enemy will breach the first or even second lines of defense. The purpose of the multilayered (or “echeloned” in the classic terminology) defense is to ensure that the enemy force gets stuck as it tries to break through. It may penetrate the first layer, but as it goes it is continually chewed up by the subsequent belts. The classic example is the Battle of Kursk, where powerful German panzers broke into the Soviet defensive belts but subsequently became stuck as they were ground down. You can think of this as being analogically similar to a Kevlar vest, which uses a web of fibers to stop projectiles: rather than bouncing off, the bullet is caught and its energy is absorbed by the layered fibers.
I was actually quite open to the idea that Ukraine would generate some penetration, but I anticipated them getting stuck in the subsequent belts and sputtering out.
What was missing from this picture – and this is a credit to Russian planning – was an unseen defensive belt forward of the proper trenches and fortifications. This forward belt consisted of extremely dense minefields and strongly held forward positions in the screening line, which the Russians evidently intended to fight for fiercely. Rather than breaking through the first belt and getting stuck in the interstitial areas, the Ukrainians have been repeatedly mauled in the security zone, and the Russians have consistently counterattacked to knock them back when they do manage to get footholds.
Conclusion: Finger Pointing
One of the surest signs that Ukraine’s counteroffensive has taken a cataclysmic turn is the way Kiev and Washington have already begun to blame each other, conducting a postmortem while the body is still warm. Zelensky has blamed the west for being too slow to deliver the requisite equipment and ammunition, arguing that unacceptable delays allowed the Russians to improve their defenses. This strikes me as rather obscene and ungrateful. NATO built Ukraine a new army from scratch in a process that already required greatly truncating the training times. ……
On the other hand, western experts have begun to blame Ukraine for supposedly being unable to adopt “combined arms warfare”. This is really a very nonsensical attempt to use jargon (incorrectly) to explain away problems. Combined arms simply means the integration and simultaneous use of various arms like armor, infantry, artillery, and air assets. Claiming that Ukraine and Russia are somehow cognitively or institutionally incapable of this is extremely silly.
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/escaping-attrition-ukraine-rolls
Again, an analysis that is in line with analyses made here in the blog
are discussed complement or coincide.
Altogether to the point. All quotations smell of a rotten corpse. All notions expressed are based on brazen lies. All projections rest on utter self-delusional expectations.
Johnson is quite right – no rest for the wicked, no hope for madness.
Gessen’s piece is for public consumption in the west and in Ukraine where there is terror behind closed doors that the Ukrainian forces will just collapse if they come to believe they are fighting and dying for nothing. Hence the ramping up of the rhetoric to include a promise to entrench support for this war putting it beyond the democratic process in the US so that whoever wins the presidential election has to continue funding it. (!???!!!)
This is just nonsense, but as I said, it is part of the propaganda facade, the only part of this diabolical war that is holding up!
Let’s deal with the development of the BRICS and the SOC, as well as the tendency of the Global South. After that, let’s think about what this war is about. Of course, it is about money and power. Whose money and power? For the 1% and for those dependent on them, it is about everything. The world outside the US sphere of influence is getting bigger and the empire’s influence is getting smaller. The faster, the less its power potential becomes. At least, if we are not talking about nuclear and biological weapons. De-dollarization will reach a point where the empire loses military assertiveness. At that point, the impoverishment in the us population will reach a level that the chaos that erupts will be uncontrollable. None of this will happen suddenly today or tomorrow. But the trend is irreversible. Let’s think 5, 10 or 15 years into the future.
Another issue is raw materials and markets.
So we ask the question, how likely is it that the 1% and their bloodhounds will choose peaceful coexistence? The problem is that they don’t have much time left. Next year, another round of BRICS enlargement will be on the agenda and the common trading currency will be concretized.
I keep emphasizing that it is not politics that makes the decisions, but “money”. Politics is a whore that sells out. That’s why it’s the 1% that decides. By the way, one of them is Trump.
The attack on Pskov airport that for reasons of geography cannot have been launched from Ukraine but either from the Baltic sea over the Baltic dwarfs or directly from the Baltic dwarfs supports the assertion that we are indeed heading towards WW3 b/c both a direct Russian response and a lack of Russian response lead to it. If Russia retaliates, it’s Article 5 and WW3, and if Russia doesn’t retaliate it will be seen as weakness and a licence to escalate by NATO, which will lead to a point of no return and WW3. If I were Russian, I would make my case in the UNSC then I would bomb the sh*t out of the Baltic state from which the attack came, unlike Ukrainians, they can’t be claimed to be “brothers”. That’s about the only option I see to avoid WW3 but I’m afraid the Russians will procrastinate.
All those pundits running the corrupt western system better stop thinking that they still possess a large formidable military force in the form of NATO which others are sacred of. At the end of the day the only thing they really can count on is nuclear bombs. Now the west must think again if it believes Russia is alone in all of this ongoing global transformation. A direct war with Russia is a direct war with the rest of the world. Hopefully, the west is stupid enough to push for direct conflicts all over the globe so that a new BRICS currency would appear sooner than later.
My kids didn’t understand how I could vote for Trump in 2016. After all, he’d called a guy a Mexican. (At least he didn’t say “dirty Mexican”.)
I told them that Hillary would get us into a nuclear war with Russia. Now we have dotard Biden, who made Hillary’s fetch-it boy, Jake Sullivan, National Security Advisor and put retreads Blinken and Nuland in charge of bringing about Armageddon. So, we get to have our nuclear war after all. Yippie. Jesus H. Christ
San Francisco: Official dismissed after “Doom Loop” tour
A San Francisco city official has been forced to resign after offering the now-defunct “Doom Loop Walking Tour,” which toured the city’s troubled neighborhoods.
Vice President for Infrastructure Alex Ludlum claimed the $30 tour, which was sold with the tagline “Experience the blight and squalor of downtown San Francisco firsthand,” was intended as satire.
The ad claimed that the “political junkie and authoritarian loudmouth” would help people “understand the policy decisions that have made America’s richest city the innovative leader of the housing crisis, the addiction crisis, the mental health crisis and the unrepentant crime crisis.”
Video: Must see
https://t.me/uncut_news/57598
Who donates for the homeless in the USA–the Africans????
How does this poland analogy work? Poland was slaughtering germans. Blame the ukies blame the poles. UK played the role of the USA not letting the war end…
There must be a new US government before 2024 elections and changes in the key positions to prevent the WW3.
I don’t know how. It has to be a peaceful change.
Russian economy up to date – unexpectedly positive accents
Unexpectedly positive news reached us from the direction of BRICS countries. China’s NBS composite purchasing managers’ index (overall economy) increased slightly.
The data potpourri from Russia (GDP, retail trade, unemployment, real wages) proves unexpected strength. The latter raises questions about the success of the sanctions policy against Russia. Who are the sanctions hitting harder? From a geopolitical point of view, can continued economic destabilization of Western Europe be purposeful for the West? Is Russia more isolated internationally today or is the West more isolated than in 2021? If the opposite of one’s own list of goals becomes reality, what is to be done with regard to the concept of responsibility?
GDP increased by 5.0% year-on-year as of July. In the January-July 2023 period, the year-over-year increase was 2.1%. Retail sales increased 10.5% year-over-year as of July (forecast 10.3%), up from 10.0% previously. The unemployment rate settled at 3.0% as of July (forecast 3.2%), down from 3.1% previously. This marked a new all-time low in the unemployment rate (data through 1992). Real wages increased 10.5% year-on-year as of June (forecast 8.3%), up from 13.3% previously.
Source: goldseiten.de
What does the West have to offer?
Wars, sick societies and increasing homelessness.
Sarkozy wanted Libya destroyed to cover up just how much money he had received from Ghadaffi. Biden needed to cover up corruption and the laundromat that Ukraine recycled US taxpayer funds to US cliques
War with Russia or China will allow the coup to manifest. Hitler had a Reichstag Fire to cement control and Democrats will use Jan 6 plus War to sideline Constitution – how many NATO countries have elections 2024/25 which can be suspended under martial law ?
Does anyone believe there will be an election in US in 2024 ?
9/11 was the ultimate failed Reichstagsbrand. If plane #4 had hit the Capitol, things would look differently. As NSA’s Drake found out after there were more planes that did not move for various reasons.
Any repeat of that magnitude in the works would look like the months before 9/11 – strategy of tension.
This is the Straussian MO, called Crisis Management. Let’s hope the NSA learned its lesson as NSA Tech Director Bill Binney said in Oliver Stones Movie : A Good American : How a group of NSA code-breakers had a chance of preventing 9/11.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4065414/
“… like blaming Poland for starting World War II with Nazi Germany. It is a lie.”
Depending what actions and dates you pick, is it really a lie? The invasion of Poland was the SMO of its day.
Actually Poland was recreated by Woodrow Wilson in 1919 influenced by Paderwski. It was a dry run for Truman and Israel in 1948 – same modus on part of US.
Von Seeckt had laid groundwork in 1918 for destruction of Poland and cooperated with Frunze and Vorishilov in USSR with secret deals on joint military exercises in USSR to circumvent Versailles Treaty.
Poland was a dictatorship after 1926 and Hitler admired Pilsudski who died 1935, thereafter Sanacja was anti-Jewish and rabid.
Germans living in Danzig and Poland were persecuted and links to German Churches were stopped and German schools harassed and given letterboxes in Danzig, a German city were illegally declared Polish.
It is all kn British diplomats reports of the era if you go to the Archives.
“Actually Poland was recreated by Woodrow Wilson in 1919 influenced by Paderwski.”
As in Lithuania in 1991 the pianist was the front man of choice; the influencers included but were not limited to, both Mr. Roman Dmowski and Mr. Josef Pilsudski with others facilitating additional opportunities of hedging via “mandatory policies” in respect of internal “national minorities rights” facilitated by Mr. Woodrow Wilson to satisfy those he represented in their efforts of risk assessment, which also included but was not limited to the “Weimar Republic”, which in part from 1945 to date was replicated by “The United States of America” to control “Europe” through various presentations facilitated in part through the conditional agreements negotiated by Mr. Karl Wolff acting for and on behalf of the SS and Mr. Allen Dulles apparently acting for and on behalf of no one in particular in the Bolzano region during the first week of May 1945.
A lesser example of this remains, “ It was a dry run for Truman and Israel in 1948 – same modus on part of US. “ as you cite although in the short-term it did facilitate the “petro-dollar”.
If you go to the open archives of “British diplomats” you may find a different narrative as infered by Mr. Bulgakov’s extended observation that “Manuscripts don’t burn” … if necessary they lie instead; and if you attempt to use the archives of The Russian Federation you may not gain access at this juncture for reasons you may choose to speculate upon.
Harvard is a joke. We aren’t even a superpower anymore. You can’t continue with this level of catastrophic errors forever. In economics and foreign policy we are led by the blind.
One Hundred Percent Agree with you, Larry
To my Fellow Americans: Protect your children. If any blood sacrifice must be made in a hot war with RF, let it be us old men rather than our children and grandchildren.
May God have Mercy on us.
charap was right. he just messed the subject of the phrase, thai have corrected “To Charap, “The strategic defeat of Europe has already taken place.” It took place in the first months of the war, when Russian aggression and Ukrainian resistance helped galvanize a united European response. “Their international reputation, their international economic position, these ties with resto fo the world that had been constructed over decades—literally, physically constructed—were rendered useless overnight!”. as a grateful european i approve 100% with this sentence!
I am getting tired to read so many BS coming from western militaries about the SMO and its results. US&Vassals from EU are seeing their importance disappearing and becoming weak with the desdollarization, BRICS+, events in Africa, loss of technological and economic dominance, etc.
If they force a war against this new power, they will loose. They probably know this but the despair and arrogance can make them do something foolish.
The impression I have is that the U.S. does not have unified governance with a single purpose; it has a multiplicity of independent actors with their own agenda.
It is clear that one faction wants war with Russia and is independently planning and committing provocations in pursuit of that aim; others in the Government might not agree with that agenda, but they have limited agency and have not yet fully understood that they will lose everything, (including their lives) unless the levers of power are torn out of the hands of the warmongers.
Check the Straussians – mentioned here and there.
Prof. Leo Strauss of the Ignoble Lie – his trick was to tell his “gentlemen” DIFFERENT lies, so they would appear to have even heated rivalry.
Straussians such as Nuland’s hubbie Kagan whose papa graduated 100’s of PhD’s all Straussians.
Otherwise known as the Children of Satan exposed in 2003 pamphlets.
Outre une Ukraine dans l’OTAN, il est UNE chose que la Russie n’acceptera JAMAIS … dû-t’elle déclencher la Troisième guerre mondiale … “CHAUDE” et non plus “par procuration” : perdre la Crimée RUSSE … DONC … Sébastopol (créé par Catherine la Grande qui deviendrait dès lors un port de l’OTAN – c’est-à-dire étatsunien – et éliminerait DEFINITVEMENT la puissance maritime russe !!!
C’est même ENCORE PLUS INEGOCIABLE qu’une Ukraine dans l’OTAN !!!
Nice photo. Cosplay loving criminals sitting with politicians. It would make more sense if there was a stripper on the table.
The American Imperium, its history, is built upon a veritable mountain of skulls. To take away war is to take away its “raison d’etre”.
Addictions are chronic, progressive and fatal. There are no exceptions except for sobriety. Addictions are the result of obsession of the mind and allergy of the body. Prepare accordingly.
The Deep State is about to become very unhappy………..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12464489/Yevgeny-Prigozhin-new-footage-dismissing-elimination-Wagner.html
Now you know why Putin did not attend the funeral for Priggy’s body double.
Russia always clearly said since the SMO, it is a war with the Empire of Lies.
A direct reference to the Straussian Ignoble Liars in control of US policy.
Straussian Liars, have been told , and will tell DIFFERENT lies.
These Straussian Liars will even get into heated debates confronting each other.
And then we are supposed to read leak-sheets!
This was first exposed in 2003 – people have had 20 YEARS to check this. Laziness could be fatal!
BREAKING NEWS: Sen. Mitch McConnell appearing to have another scary episode in the media gaggle in Covington today. Aides had to step in to help him out and repeat questions. He was eventually lead away. We’ll have the full video on @WLWT
https://twitter.com/HannahPThomas/status/1696936240040321474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1696936240040321474%7Ctwgr%5Eab6b99a7c2f32d79b4a6bec784fdb255a3b84097%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rt.com%2Fnews%2F582114-mitch-mcconnell-freezes-public%2F
The outside is no longer perceived.
A significant condition for a large part of the US “elite”.
The whole world sees it.
If there is one thing you can count on, it is that you never hear what the DC swamp creatures are really thinking when you listen to their public pronouncements. Behind the scenes they are scheming about how to intimidate Russia and fool Congress and the public. They are also discussing many insane options for escalation. Some of the more sober types continue to urge caution, but they are never listened to. So don’t pay any serious attention to public pronouncements, they are distractions, obfuscations and bluster. Just pay attention to what they actually do, and extrapolate from there.
Neocons have always the same two plans. Plan A : We win , Plan B : You loose.
I’m just waiting for reality to knocks at the door, say hello and punch them hard in the face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFiXKlaopZk
Like a mobilization campaign going horribly wrong in 404. People begin to “disappear” the commissars in 404 right now. With a little help of some friends , it can become a trend.
A quote from an article written by Caitlin Johnstone explains the political landscape of the USA:
Capitol Hill is gerontocratic command center where miserable octogenarians in wheelchairs and adult diapers keep pulling the levers of ecocide and nuclear brinkmanship like retirees at a Vegas slot machine as a final fuck you to younger generations who are still capable of enjoying life on this planet. It’s where they warehouse souls too atrophied and mummified to take a stand against the empire in order to give Americans the illusion of living in a democracy.
link to the article
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/mitch-mcconnells-brief-flash-of-humanity?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Any more hopes of a rational solution for the Ukraine situation?
Those on your contact list can contact their Federal elected representatives to end the war NOW. I will do so
As for 2024 elections : Royal Institute of International Affairs Demands U.K. Intervene in U.S. Election, Fears American Voters
US allies need to wake up to the Trump question
https://www.ft.com/content/b6517cd6-5e9c-4e5b-a07b-f4a76a83ae18
And 2018 the same :
HOUSE OF LORDS Select Committee on International Relations 5th Report of Session 2017–19 UK foreign policy in a shifting world order
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldintrel/250/250.pdf
The Monarchy and City of London are having conniptions!
My wife subscribes to the New Yorker. Over the last 16 months I’ve read at least a couple of pieces by Masha Gessen about the war in Ukraine. Almost unreadable. I don’t expect anything better from her brother.
Nuland, Blinken, Biden, and the rest of the neocons and their enablers, need to be tried, convicted, and put in front of a firing squad to rid our planet of their evil destructive ideology once and for all.
I feel your pain Larry.I once had hope of a “Come to Jesus moment”.That hope was dashed when I realized these sociopaths created this fiasco through believing their own lies,and hoping they would come to reality was a case of myself believing myown lie.I now have had my “Come to Jesus moment”.
“Biden and his national security team are acting more and more like a degenerate meth addict and lack the will to ask for help.”
I am reminded of Peter Dale Scott’s quip that power intoxicates and unchecked power intoxicates absolutely.
Nothing the neocons get started ever works out right. I suspect the Ukr adventure will fizzle and then face-plant with some sort of embarrasing “who knew?” moment like the Kabul Airport fiasco, and we will move on to the next horrifically lethal, costly and pointless adventure.
Too bad for those Russian-speaking Ukrainians who are going to be slaughtered in the meantime with the last gasp, geographically-focused total mobilization.
Unfortunately world war is coming and we cannot stop it.
Look at where the smart money is going.
Answer: outside of Europe.
RT German : https://test.rtde.life/europa/179332-400-tausend-gefallene-ukrainischer-mobilfunkanbieter-verraet-zahl-getoeteten-soldaten/
“400.000 Gefallene” ‒ Ukrainischer Mobilfunkanbieter verrät die Zahl der getöteten Soldaten
Mobile Operator Kievstar counted missing SIM-cards. They have 48% market share there.
For a Kiev Firm even to make such a revealing video is new.
No English version yet…
As a D.C. politician said recently Ukrainians are cheaper than US personnel.
Ukraine will be dictated by the USA 2024 elections to a point.
And that decision is made. Stupid people have more kids. They put them in government union brainwashing schools. Without the electoral college, you would never see a Repuke President. For the good it does you. When Trump WON, he lost by 3 million votes. Obama won by 10 and 5 million votes respectively. George Bush lost the popular vote by 500K when he won the first one. And did win the second post 9/11. You have to go back to the 80’s to see a Repuke actually win. Senile Joe Biden won by 7 million votes. This country is over. Get used to it.
Not that the Repukes would heal it. But the trajectory is fixed. The Dims are the War Party. They will not be losing any future Presidential contests.
I’ll chime in. From a selfish point of view, I want the U.S. to give Ukraine everything, F35’s, Abram tanks, mine field clearing equipment, etc. Because the ONLY way this war ends is when US/NATO (F.U.K.U.S.G.) is bled dry of all supplies. I call this selfish, because it is very bad for Ukraine but good for the U.S. to see Neocons lose.
@Christian Chiba
It is entirely possible that Russia secretly hopes for the U.S./NATO to throw in everything but the kitchen sink (i.e. nukes), so that they can blow them all to hell. Now that would be disarmament.
This is what a controlled media environment allows, the widespread acceptance of a desired narrative. If the Western media was filled with images of Ukrainian cemeteries, Ukrainian hospitals, burning Ukrainian (NATO) equipment, forced conscription videos, etc., support for this war would evaporate, probably quickly.
Western media shows none of these things. Support for the war, especially among the chattering elites, remains strong (when the negotiating position closest to reality is still safely within the narrative, support is still strong, at least in that class).
Is this an example of the blind leading the blind, the blind leading the dumb or the dumb leading the blind? Take your pick.
FWIW: to add to the daily drumbeat of pending war:
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/8600755.html (cassad’s blog)
US Nuclear weapons in Europe
Looking at the American and European ruling elite, I begin to doubt Mr Darwin’s theory of the evolution of species.
As WWI lead to WWII so WWII will lead to WWIII and nuclear war. WWII was an ethnic genocidal war of Germany and its allies (including volunteers through out all of Western Europe like Norway) against European Jews and basically Russia. The same ethnic hatreds have emerged in the West but almost solely directed at Russians. Although the Ukr Nazis are also hating European Jews. The same ethnic genocidal war against China is gearing up but behind the Russians at this point.
Will there be a nuclear war before the Presidential election? To my mind odds are it will be.
The simple fact of the matter is that the US has lied to Russia too many times and any treaty the US signs can’t be trusted
Why bother signing a ceasefire allowing your enemy years to just rebuild their military and attack you again?
The only option is to permanently remove their ability to be a threat.
Nathan… the US doesn’t have the means to launch a war 6000 miles from its shores. This is nothing more than the Neoclowns getting ahead in establishing a new narrative for “peace”. The purpose of which is to save face and “build the Western part of Ukraine”, just like Taiwan, Korea, etc., so as to use it as a platform from which to bleed Russia with terrorism. Terrorism is the trade of MI6 and the Crown Intelligence Agency.
Russia has frustrated every move the Neoclowns have managed and these Khazars will never forgive what some Bolshevick did to their great great Ukrainian grandfather.
The Russians are well aware and will not settle until the opportunities provided by the Ukraine conflict are fully exploited, mainly, breaking the EU and NATO. In this upcoming winter, EU countries may very well start to make seperate outside the EU, deals for fuel with Russia. The same European leaders that supported the Ukraine will look to survive in office while their people are surviving, what might be a harsh winter.
Putin is not in a hurry, he will see through the destruction of the EU and NATO.
“When a man with a pistol meets a man with a rifle, the man with the pistol is a dead man.” Ramon Rojo, Fistful of Dollars
The US behaves as an amalgam of: 1) pre-WWI Prussia in which the military elite were a privileged class above all, with effectively infinite resources. They convinced the Kaiser that war with France would be quick and profitable to Germany after she annexed France’s colonies. Germany financed the war with deficit spending mediated by the Reichsbank bying bonds and printing banknotes- with no taxes. 2) and France pre- FrancoPrussian War: a large sclerotic military without practical fighting experience, too arrogant and smug to realize that the hegemon was about to meet its Fate.
How can the Nulands and beta males understand what happens when you poke the Bear, never having had any determined opposition from the Sheeple or having met a man who takes off his short to exhibit his testosterone to those that understand the signal?
I predict: NulandBlinken will poke, poke, poke the Bear until Russia concludes that war is both inevitable and unavoidable. At a time of Russia’s choosing, they will drop the Byelorussian Balcony on Ukraine and strike US carrier groups to avoid civilian casualties . The US will behave as a cornered AustroHungarian Empire with another doddering fool at the helm- but only neutered allies who remember bloodshed which is 8 generations removed from US memory (1861).
Pray to be delivered from these devil dogs.
God help us.
Gee whiz Larry you are as bad as the dumbasses at Facebook with your fucking censoring.
It’s pathetic that you behave this way and then have the fucking audacity to claim to be a sonar.
You surely don’t have potty mouth. It really makes me not want to read those missing posts.