The War Cabinet put together by Bibi Netanyahu in the wake of the 7 October attack by Hamas is running into rough waters. The Cabinet met yesterday with the intention of discussing Defense Minister Gallant’s plan for governing Gaza once combat operations end. But that never happened. Instead, the meeting erupted in acrimony, pitting ultra-right politico Ben Gvir and Smotrich against leaders of opposition political parties — Benny Gantz and Yair Lapid — and the Chief of Staff of the Israeli Army. Quite a spectacle.
According to Haaretz reporter, Michael Hauser Tov:
Israeli war cabinet member Benny Gantz faced personal affronts from Netanyahu’s Likud party and far-right Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir after calling out the government ministers who clashed with Israeli military officials during Thursday’s cabinet debate about the launch of an investigation into October 7.
Gantz said on Friday that “what happened yesterday in the cabinet was a politically motivated attack in the middle of a war,” adding that “such conduct has never happened before.”
Gantz also said that the prime minister is responsible for the fact that the cabinet did not discuss what he called “strategic processes that will affect the continuation of the campaign and our security in the future”.
The rancor was sparked by news delivered by the Army Chief of Staff that a team of former military luminaries had been tasked to investigate the October 7 attack by Hamas and the failures to prevent it. That elicited this tirade from Ben Gvir:
“It is our duty to ask the army’s chief of staff questions and ensure that they do not repeat mistakes of the past, in which Benny Gantz was complicit.” . . . “The ‘day after’ the war must be discussed in the legal forum, and the decision cannot be left to Gantz, who wants to bring the regime of Mahmoud Abbas and his friends to Gaza.”
Yair Lapid, an opposition political leader, shot back at Ben Gvir saying:
“Ben-Gvir, a terrorism-supporter who didn’t serve in the army, attacks Shaul Mofaz, the IDF Chief of Staff during the 2014 Gaza War and an Israeli hero, and other ministers try to humiliate IDF commanders.”
Yep, things are going just swell with Israel’s War Cabinet. Looks like the same lack of professionalism demonstrated by the Israeli military in Gaza is spilling over into the political chambers.
All of this comes on the heels of another Haaretz report on the investigation into the murder of three Israeli hostages by the Israeli military.
That report is a stunner. Here are the lowlights:
- The military investigation concludes that the soldiers and senior commanders operating in the area were not informed of a building found two days before the incident on which the words ‘Help, 3 hostages’ and ‘SOS’ were painted.
- The soldier who shot the three Israeli hostages Samer al-Talalka, Yotam Haim and Alon Shamriz confirmed that he saw them carrying a white cloth, but did not have time to “make sense” of the situation.
- Other soldiers opened fire at Haim and killed him, in violation of an explicit order which, they say, they “did not fully understand,” after their commander called on the hostage to emerge from the building he had run into.
- At 9:49, two soldiers noticed Haim moving and opened fire, in spite of their commander’s order. The hostage was killed instantly. The investigation determined that the order to hold fire was heard clearly, but the soldiers claimed that they hadn’t understood the order, thinking it was a temporary order, meant to enable them to listen and ensure there was no enemy fire in the area.
- It was further argued that soldiers were not sure about the rules of engagement, especially with regard to unarmed men, even though the IDF is operating in a densely populated area, calling on Hamas fighters to surrender.
Ponder that for a moment. Soldiers are given a “cease fire” order but only considered it a temporary suggestion. And they were not “sure” about the Rules of Engagement (ROE). The hostages were unarmed. They had their shirts off and it could be clearly seen they were not wearing a bomb belt. This incident confirms that Israeli soldiers have standing Rules of Engagement to shoot unarmed persons.
My former boss at State Department’s Counter Terrorism office, a retired Marine Colonel, drilled into me, “You train like you fight and you fight like you train.” The conduct of these Israeli soldiers speaks volumes about the poor, inadequate training provided by Israeli military instructors.
According to the Haaretz report, “the soldiers were cadets from a squad commanders’ course in the IDF’s Infantry School (Brigade 828), who were inducted into the army’s Golani brigade six months prior.” So much for the hype that the Golani brigade is some kind of elite unit. A malevolent clown show.
One of the things a new recruit into the U.S. military learns early on — it does not matter which service — is the importance of understanding and following lawful orders. When the Drill Instructor orders a young soldier or Marine to cease fire, that individual will quickly learn that means, “stop shooting.” Those who fail to follow orders are in for a good deal of suffering until they learn how to follow orders.
The old saying, “the fish rots from the head,” certainly appears to apply, not only to this particular unit of Israeli soldiers, but to the entirety of the Netanyahu government.
And they want to go bang heads with Hez? Pfffffffft.
I hope they go for it. It will be the end of the scum.
The Axis of Resistance knows this is their big chance to defeat the rabid settler state, and as Nasrallah said “If the enemy thinks of waging a war on Lebanon, we will fight without restraint, without rules, without limits and without restrictions,”.
He is not one for making idle threats or indulging in braggadocio. The ashkeNAZI will not take heed so a mighty clash is coming.
I beg to differ, unlike every other member of the “Axis of Resistance”, only Yemen doesn’t issue idle threats. What do the rest do, proclamations notwithstanding? Nothing or not much. What is the sense of fighting after the Palestinians are ethnically cleansed from Gaza? Isn’t that the whole point of their “resistance” to return Palestine to Palestinians?
Nasrallah has a solid reputation as one who never exaggerates or issues idle threats.
The reality is Hezbollah risks the US etc joining in if they attack first.
If the Zionist filth attempt to invade or start a massive bombing campaign then that’s a different ball game.
I beg to differ ………… keep playing with fire Zion. Hot off the griddle.
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/210386/Hezbollah-targets-Israeli-military-position-with-62-rockets
The Arab populace is chomping at the bit to take on Israel. The Arab leaders are puppets of Western Oligarchics. What scares them more than anything is a united Arab population and the political death of Sykes–Picot, not just on the map but politically.
Should that happen and the Arabs are unified under some form of Federal government with a selected leader *, the Western Oligarchics will face a very cohesive popullace with a strong culture and history looking and the utter ruination of half its lands by the West. Add to that, an indispensable strategic location and huge energy resources.
* Islam prohibits giving rulership and power to those who covit it. Instead it requires consultations by centers of power to nominate an individual with a reputation worthy of trust. This nomination is followed by pledges of allegiance to the nominated leader. If not enough pledges of alligiance are forthcoming then another leader shall be nominated. The leader should always seek council from the experts on all matters.
Weststern Oligarchics will not allow such a leader, what will they corrupt him with?
well said
Regarding k. talaat:
“The Arab leaders are puppets of Western Oligarchics”.
Correction: SOME Arab leaders…
MBS has basically cut the US-Petro$ ties, and as the BRICS+ expands that trend will reduce “Western oligarchic” control worldwide. That’s the point of it.
ALL leaders will have “interests” they feel benefit their country, often to the disadvantage of others. Putin particularly is showing how the necessary negotiations can be done without resulting in rampant corruption or extreme inequalities.
The one thing is certain, theocracies where the religious leaders or extreme zealot politicians directly control the gov’t/money-supply are catastrophic.
Islam is no better than any other religion in limiting the issues you raise. The extreme wealth of, for example, the Saudi Royals vs. the SA general population is a form of corruption. Where is Islam in preventing that? Thought so.
Slipping in religion under the anti-corruption banner is to repeat the errors of the past.
@AP… MBS has a relationship with Epstein. He is compromised. No leader in the West is allowed power without being compromised, what makes you think that ME leaders are different?
Is it me who is slipping in religion or is you who is hostile to the word “religion” without truly reflecting on its benefits. Religion is a set of ethics if followed they keep us pretty much at our best possible. Without it we have oligarchs, psychopaths, adicts and over-sexed people.
The Saudi Royals violate most tenants of Islam. For one, their large wealth earns interest and they fund terrorism.
Your aethiasm is betrayedcby your apparent rejection of the knowledge of God or Theology.
All religions originate from the same source, they are never contradictory. People are the problem when they turn it into some kind of fanaticism.
Christianity came to reform Judiasm and Islam came to reform both.
k. talat:
Hey folks, we have a returning contestant in the “My God’s Better Than Your God” sweepstakes.
The “released” Epstein info has taken many months of “curation” to fit the US/ZATO purposes. Without full verification of the chain of custody, it’s at best cherry-picked and massaged (see what I did there? HAH!!!) crap. A day late and a dollar short.
News flash, Epstein is dead, and dead men tell no tales… or verify files. Robert Maxwell before him.
Religion IS REPUTED to be what you claim. History shows otherwise. “never contradictory”?? You are joking, really. If you’re not, you’re clearly massively uninformed, willfully so. The heavily edited Abrahamic Texts are self-referentially contradictory, plus add in the Dead Sea Scrolls, let alone the fact Judaism branched into Christianity AND Islam. Peddle your BS elsewhere, it ain’t working here.
I don’t fit the definition of “atheist”, mostly because even atheists can’t agree on what the term means, let alone seriously deluded religious zealots like yourself.
IF/when God shows up He can clear up the mess the likes of you have made… only 2,500 years (or about 1,000 for the Islamic version) and counting… so what’s your “firm date” for God to arrive? Any day now? C’mon, I dare you. Let me know so I can start to be “scared” by your hollow prognostications and your silly scriptures.
Well folks, it’s been fun, that’s all for this episode, lets see if k. taalat returns again to grab for the Brass Ring of Stupidity.
@NATO Blues
I agree. I see the Israeli plan is to remove the civilian Palestinian population so that Hamas is faced with a fait accommpli and hence Hamas to lose its war. I suspect, however, Hamas will fight on regardless.
The Ashkenazi Jews are the moderates and left leaning ones from Europe who came after WW2. They’re not the ultra-Orthodox religious crazies imported into Israel in the 90s from the former Soviet block countries which completely changed the character of the country for the worse.
I’m not saying Israel was some benevolent state towards the Palestinians before the 90s, but most of the rabid supporters of Netanyahoo and the current genocidal government have their origins outside of Europe.
Wrong Goyim. Or are you from ‘Russian Jewish’ stock? The Ashkenazis are the usurpers that have us all in this mess. Secular ‘Jews’ with their degeneracy have defiled the Faith and will cause the ruin of all. And none are more secular than the converts.
Have a Philly cheese steak on the way to a Pride rally like the rest of your Khazar filth
Regarding Akiva:
Enough…
So now the minders of Jewish Religious Correctness are making a big deal out of which stripe of Jewish ZIONISTS are to blame in Israel. I’ll grant it is the ZIONISTS to blame, as they claim God “gave Israel to the Jews, yada yada” the actual history of Palestine notwithstanding. ZIONISTS are not limited to being Jews, as Evangelical Christians use the reclaiming of Israel as a trigger for Armageddon, the Second Coming and the Rapture. Ya, further extension off a Judaic premise that doesn’t hold its own water. And the Muslims claim the Christians and Jews are both wrong and vice versa. The Zionist propaganda is so strong, even believers of other religions will cede that the Jewish/Christian God may have made that promise, as their own Gods have done similar in their region. The term clusterfuck, rather than “faith” comes to mind.
“defiled the Faith” There is not anything REAL for that “faith” to truly be based on.
Since you appear to be new here:
The Abrahamic Texts are the theological basis of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Fact.
Those three groups can’t decide amongst themselves, let alone each other, what is the “correct” version of the Abrahamic Texts. Fact.
At a minimum, there are dozens of critical differences in versions due to faulty copying, flawed translations, deliberate editing, additions, deletions etc. which materially change all that basis for “faith”. The original, “from the hand of God” versions are lost to antiquity, if they ever existed as the Books now presented. Many obviously have had multiple human authors at different epochs.
Therefore any rational person must conclude that NONE OF THEM are fully correct, because an all-powerful, omniscient God’s followers couldn’t get such a fundamental basis for “faith” wrong. UNLESS the ALL the extant Texts themselves are fundamentally, and at least partially, flawed and are not a true basis for “faith”. No religious group following the various versions and sub-versions of the Abrahamic Texts can claim theirs is the “correct” one, as all other differing faith groups claim the same.
Therefore, until God shows up to settle the mess, no one can claim superiority over the others in the “my God’s better than your God” sweepstakes.
Historically, the earliest Abrahamic Texts, and therefore the basis of Jewish “faith” appeared in Palestine about 2,500 years ago at most. Still waiting for God to show up. Got a LOT to answer for if/when He/She/It does appear.
Torah Thumping is even less likely to float here than Bible Thumping, just sayin’.
As far as I know Ashkenazi Judaism comes from what used to be called The Pale of Settlement. Or what is now Russia/Ukraine/Poland/Belarus etc. I don’t know of any evidence that latecomers from the Soviet Union were more religious, in fact there is evidence that many from Russia were not even Jewish.
I think you’ll find the headbangers in Israel are primarily Mizrahi, who come from Middle Eastern countries and North Africa. AKA Arab Jews .
Ben Gvir is an Iraqi Jew.
All correct. Plus, I don’t remember that the Irgun were so cuddly – and they were predominantly Ashkenazi Jews. A A P says, Zionism is the problem, in all its different flavours.
“The old saying, “the fish rots from the head,” certainly appears to apply, not only to this particular unit of Israeli soldiers, but to the entirety of the Netanyahu government.”
Not just “his” regime. All previous Zionist regimes were rotten. The only difference is that this rotten regime has taken it’s mask completely off to show the hatred, malice, and genocidal intent that has always existed, but was more or less hidden from the masses.
One of the things that every recruit should learn is to only follow legal orders.
But “You train like you fight and you fight like you train.”
Thus the conduct of Israeli soldiers shows what training they have received by their military instructors.
And as such the old saying, “the fish rots from the head,” certainly applies to the Israeli government.
As brussell writes
All previous Israeli regimes were just as evil as the Netanyahu government. The only difference is that his regime has taken its mask off and is showing the genocidal intent that has always existed, but was hidden from the western public, thanks to a complicit western mainstream media.
Today the ZIONIST privileges are expiring, because the NAZI regimes in both Kiev and Tel Aviv have been exposed as being financed and controlled by the Globalist Fascist Elite.
The Netanyahu government is no different than the corruption roaming in Washington, London and Brussels.
Mossad agents like Epstein has been running a blackmail operation, by trafficking minors to having sex with corruptible US and UK influencers.
That is only one of the ways the Fascist Elite has been able to exert control over western democracies.
The Fascist Elite has also been selecting new agents for decades via National universities and international recruitment gatherings like the Bilderberg, the WEF.
As such their Political Agents (like Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden, Blair, Brown, Sarkozy, Merkel, Zelensky, and Netanyahu) has committed western democracies to wars of aggression, terror, transgressions against human rights and national constitutions for decades, without they has been brought to trial for their crimes.
Hijacking all western democracies can only succeed if there is a secret international network embedded within all branches of National and international institutions, including the western Mainstream press.
It’s about time that the western population opens their eyes to this rough network, and starts holding our corrupt criminal Politicians and their Elite enablers to account for their crimes against humanity.
“Hijacking all western democracies can only succeed if there is a secret international network embedded within all branches of National and international institutions, including the western Mainstream press.”
No need to hypothesize the existence of a secret network as the ultimate cause of the decay of our societies. What you describe quite accurately is the natural evolution of liberal democracies in the absence of competition, this is how they decay when they don’t have a rival system that forces them to keep their internal entropy from building up.
It’s a purely physical phenomenon, inevitable and deterministic.
The good news is that it has self-compensatory mechanisms (aka feedback loops). Our decay causes the rise of a new pole in Eurasia (China+Russia+Iran or the expanded BRICS). The rise of the new pole in turn forces us to recover our strength, meaning that we gonna get rid of our incompetent elites because we are going to need better elites to compete with the new pole.
But we are not there yet. We are in a transitioning period before the fall of the current elites. There is a nice mathematical model behind all of this.
agreed. the “nice mathematical model behind all of this” necessitates a complete implosion of the current political system governing the collective west before any form of resurgence can occur. in short, what this means is an economic collapse accompanied by mass impoverishment, famine, death, pestilence and all the rest.
from the very inception of sedentary human societies, it has always been like that. this time will be no different.
Exactly what the Rothschild/WEF Great Reset was intended to do.
Collapse/control ALL national gov’ts by war and economic blackmail to facilitate their special fascist/communist “iron fist in the velvet glove” blend of Inclusive Capitalism/tm (fascism to engage the wealthy/powerful) and “you will own nothing” (WEF faux-communism for the masses).
The Shadow Globalist Capitalist State would “own” everything, run by (s)elected puppets of the Rothschilds. Look at Canada if you want to see what that looks like. We have “free” healthcare (for now), a “commie” idea, but we live in a de facto police state.
At the moment Poilievre APPEARS to intend to oust the WEFers from gov’t when he wins a majority in 2025, but like Trump promising to “drain the swamp”, I fear his ACTUAL reach/power in the party backrooms may not be able to match his pre-election rhetoric. Popular “democratic” support seldom changes the course of the nation-state, people vote and think their job is done. Powermongers Harper and Mulroney are still lurking, surely have “et tu Brute?” confederates and moles throughout the Con Party and have massive influence with big “donors”.
Zelensky was similarly elected on a platform of “peace with Russia”. Ya, “the peace of graves”, after Putin was unseated and Russia was carved up by the Rothschild oligarchs. It is laughable that the Obomber/Bribe’em NeoCons thought the US would be left standing in the Rothschild Empire, beyond being the militarist thugs for the oligarchs.
Yup. The starting year and the starting regions, how deep the fall and how long to recovery are interesting unknowns.
My guess is the system will collapse from the outside in, meaning that America will fall last. Japan and the UK are already maxed out (they cannot help buying more American debt) so Europe+Canada+Australia+SK will have to pitch in and sacrifice themselves for America. But it migh well happen from the inside out, depending on how rebelious Americans are. I read that most of them are fat and hooked on drugs and porn, so perhaps they will remain docile for longer.
My reply is to AP. You do not understand Canada. We may sound somewhat like Americans, but our attitudes and system of government are vastly different. The concept of big donor is not as prominent in Canada as it is in the US. The Conservative Party of Canada starting with Harper has successfully built up a database of modest donors so they are not beholden to big donors. In any case, there are limits to how much an individual may donate federally (currently, $1700 Cdn). Donations by organizations (trade unions) or enterprises are forbidden. So before making a statement about Canada you should do some research.
Albert65:
I guess you’re new here too…
I have lived in Canada my entire life, so your attempt to rehabilitate Harper, one of the most hated PM’s in Canadian history won’t wash. I KNOW why I’m not an American, but do you? Harper has been spending his retirement trying to stay relevant, chumming with some American Oligarchs, Gates and the Adelson’s.
Poilievre , a former Harper attack-dog, single-handedly filled the Con Party coffers via Memberships during the Con leadership race. Evangelicals flocked to the Con Party in unprecedented numbers, on the strength that Poilievre was the best bet to F*CK Trudeau in 2025. It has given Poilievre a great deal of latitude to confront the Old Boy’s Network that wagged the Conservative Party dog for far too long. Poilievre wisely publicly minimized Harper’s “endorsement”, knowing it would only harm his leadership prospects.
Harper didn’t accept envelopes with Airbus-connected cash like Mulroney, but he did nothing to stop the CDN Armed Forces participating in US warmongering and Regime Change agendas, including Africa, Afghanistan, Ukraine and Haiti. Harper also was at the forefront of endorsing the Gates’ Foundation “Women’s Health”, Pro-Life initiative, a surreptitious global attack platform on women’s reproductive rights. (That’s anti-abortionist for those who don’t know that extremist Christian dogwhistle).
Poilievre has also stated he would end the MAID System, to buy votes from the Evangelicals. My “we don’t believe in evolution” in-laws love him. But my adult niece, who suffered with MS for decades until a bout with cancer got so bad she was in constant pain, used MAID when that was to be her lot in life.
The “good Christians” would have made her suffer lost mobility, excruciating pain and/or be sedated into insensibility for at least months if not years.
Fuck you all that would condemn another human being to that fate. She chose, on the strength of HER Christian beliefs, that God wouldn’t mind seeing her a bit earlier than later.
YES. ABSOLUTELY, MAID should be protected from those who would use it to harm others not capable of defending their personal choices to remain alive under any circumstances. If you personally want to suffer, FINE, DO IT. But don’t think you have the right to make others do so out of your sanctimonious “beliefs”.
So stumping for the Harperite Cons is again just voting for the least dirty suit. The NDP under Singh is little better, a bunch of Liberal ass-kissers, a shameful relic of a once proud worker’s party, whose Tommy Douglas forced Nobel Peace Prize winner Lester B. Pearson to enact the envied-around-the-world Medicare every Fed gov’t since has incrementally eroded. It is a mere shadow of its former benefit.
And BTW, your hero Harper got kicked out of UofT after ONE semester. My daughter graduated a tough 4 year program there. 8,000 kids a year do the same, but not Stevie. Little Stevie ran off to a low-level job his Daddy got him at Imperial Oil, then to UofCalgary where he got 3-year degree plus a one year “masters”. If you look hard enough, you can find a copy of his “thesis” online. I’ve read it, it’s crap, an insipid rehash of capitalist bullshit. There’s yer “economist” PM.
Still think I’m American?
I am definitely NOT a conservative and was simply pointing out that, unlike the US, Canadian political parties may not legally depend on big individual donors, big trade unions or big corporations like in the US. Unfortunately, only the Conservative Party has successfully adapted to this fundraising reality and, yes, it was under Harper, probably due to his work for the Reform Party, that this happened. The Liberals, on the other hand, who I also don’t support, try their best to get those $1700 donations.
Albert65:
Don’t try to deflect and change the subject. YOU said:
“The Conservative Party of Canada starting with Harper has successfully built up a database of modest donors so they are not beholden to big donors.”
That sounded like Harperite Con election tub-thumping to me. Crying in your beer because Trudy/ Freeland’s “Sunny Ways” turned out to be a cover for WEF/Rothschild fascism? (see the Trucker’s Protest) Or banned from India, terrorist-supporting Singh turned out to be just another Lib mole in NDP orange, like Mulcaire and Rae?
Don’t rely on “big donors”? HAHAHAH! Then why do we have photos of Trudy and Freeland sitting in rapture at Soros’ knee? Videos of Schwab bragging the WEF has “penetrated” over half the Canadian gov’t? The Rothschilds have an Global Advisory branch in Toronto, in the TD Canada Trust Tower. Y’know, TD/CT that was freezing Trucker GoFundMe accounts? Nothing to see here…
The sooner the Canadian Uniparty is dethroned, the better for the world.
Notice there has been zero changes to Canadian foreign (warmongering) policy as the Big 3 swap seats around. Medicare continues to be incrementally privatized, deconstructed no matter which Party “wins”. The new NDP-forced dental and drug plans are weak tea.
All applauded Hulka without first questioning the historical veracity of his “service”. Puppy-dogging around behind NeoNazi Freeland, her standing behind him like a proud momma, with that “we fooled them all, again” smirk on her face.
Your political affiliation is irrelevant, another unfounded form of “belief” cynical leaders capitalize on. The politicians pander to whatever groups they think will get them elected. Trudy’s poll analysts must have told him “supporting Gazans” was needed for him to retain the leadership seat until after losing the 2025 election. His WEF/Rothschild handlers must have pragmatically acquiesced to Canada voting for the proposed UN ceasefire, knowing the US would veto it anyway. Trying to salvage Canada’s lost “honest broker” status. Besides, what no-name would they put in the PM chair RIGHT NOW? (not hated Freeland…) Mark Carney has a better Rothschild Gig, and refused to put his head in THAT political noose?
Political parties should be severely reduced in their power to select/control MPs/Senators. Parliament should be non-partisan/secular, leave your party/religious affiliations at the door. The leaders of any Party that whips it’s MP’s should be charged with treason. Separation of church and state strictly maintained.
I didn’t vote for the Trudy, Freeland, Singh Cabal, or Poilievre, so why do any of them get to pre-select or control the MP for my riding? All the parties are famous for over-riding the local selection process of MPs. THERE’S yer problem.
Lâche-le. Il est bien entendu de tous que tu es un con !
Albert65:
Don’t you know its extremely rude to speak in another language than the one YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY CONVERSED IN? So who’s the jerk? You. Nice try, and you still don’t know if I speak Quebecois or not. Idiot.
You were wrong, “Big Donors” always find ways to game the system. The evidence is clear, you just can’t handle the idea that Canadian politics is not the honest, open system you claim to “believe” it to be…
There’s that word again… “belief”. Political parties operate on the same “just trust us” fakery as religion.
Politicians ALL lie. Political Parties SELECT candidates that say the right things, and will repeat whatever “platform” they are handed. If those platforms contain deliberate lies, so what, after 2 terms they get a fat pension, and the best (worst?) of them often go on to double-dip in various gov’t appointed positions.
Am I jaded, cynical? You bet, but only because our politicians accept bribes (Mulroney), traitorously consort with known subversives (WEF/Soros/Rothschilds), attack law-abiding, peaceful Canadians (Trucker Protest, COVID/Jabs) and waste tax dollars doing the US’s illegal warmongering ($18BILLION-Afghanistan, $5BILLION-Ukraine and counting). All without bearing any consequences for their destruction of Canada’s economic and international sovereignty.
You DO know Canada is still owned by the British Crown? All that “independent” Constitutional/Rights stuff is to hide that fact. Don’t believe me?
https://weather.gc.ca/?layers=,radar¢er=45.91190934,-70.03758795&zoom=7
Scroll down to see the whole map, then click and drag the Dialog Box in the lower right corner to reveal a text box (or Info Symbol, click it to see the info box) and read:
“(Copyright Symbol) His Majesty the King, in Right of Canada, represented by the Minister of the Environment.”
Flappy ears Chucky owns the copyright on work product of the Canadian gov’t. Therefore he “owns” Canada.
Who knows more about Canada? Not you it seems.
meaning that we gonna get rid of our incompetent elites because we are going to need better elites to compete with the new pole.”
If by “new pole” you mean world power. Above is not what history teaches us. Empires that “fall” never again compete for world power status or regain their “pole” As far as I know only two world powers have fallen and then (maybe) risen again as a world power or pole. We have yet to see if Russia or China will be the first. If these two were ever really “world powers” But I believe when America falls it will never again regain it’s status as a world power. The evil within the (bankers) will just move on to another Host and the carcass of the USA will rot and stink up the world along with Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome.
Good point BUT after WWII the equilibrium status changed from a single pole to two poles.
It’s like a physical system that has a single-point equilibrium for a long time and then after developing sufficiently (meaning adding more and more parts and feedback loops) it turns into a two-points equilibrium system.
Interestingly, the one-pole to two-poles development happened almost precisely at the time when we reached our maximum population growth rate (that happened in the 60s). So it seems to me population size and its growth rate determines the existence of one or two poles (one pole for small populations and fast growth rate, two poles for large populations and slow growth rates).
So I think we are going to keep existing as a two-poles, meaning that the American pole (and its groupies) will recover after its collapse.
Russia essentially recovered from the collapse of the Soviet Union in 3 decades. I think we can recover even faster after we pass through our own collapse.
Of course the whole process can be reset (or brought to irreversible zero) by nuclear war or a big rock from space.
Corollary: Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome did not recover because population size was too small to give room for the existence of a second pole, so they just withered away.
Multiple statements from the israeli Defense cabinet reflect the evil intent towards the Palestinian people.
I agree. Pointing to the current Israeli government, which is ruling over an entire nation of psychopathic, genociding Jewish supremacists, and saying “See? The fish rots from the head” is akin to a diagnosis of brain tumor in a patient with advanced metastatic cancer affecting all organ systems.
It beggars the imagination to understand what Israel thinks the future will be. Killing 3 of their own in the simplest of military confrontations is a tell.
No plan. No plan whatsoever.
How long can the USA participate in this slaughter? Do they think the rest of the World, of Humanity, is blind?
Yep. Just like everything else in US and the Collective West right now. All the masks have come off and everyone can see the ugly evil empire in all its disgusting, putrid filth.
Caitlin sums it up:
“It’s Insane That Anyone Is Still Supporting Israel
CAITLIN JOHNSTONE JAN 5, 2024 – https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/its-insane-that-anyone-is-still-supporting
It honestly blows my mind that there are still people adamantly supporting Israel after all this. After all the people they’ve killed. After all the lies they’ve been caught in. After all their comments endorsing genocide and ethnic cleansing, and all their actions showing they mean it.
If you’re still supporting Israel at this point, you’re just telling everyone you don’t care about truth or morality. You’re announcing to the world that you care only about your weird ideological agendas and geopolitical control.
You are publicly proclaiming that you are a dogshit human being. That you have lived on this earth all these years without arriving at any level of emotional or psychological maturity. That you have wasted your life on this planet.
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Wait til the Zoomers figure out that Epstein did what he did because he was running a sexual blackmail operation for Israeli intelligence.
The most significant aspect of the Epstein story is not that he helped some famous people rape minors, it’s that powerful intelligence agencies use child sex slaves and sexual blackmail to exert control over our society.
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Nothing will convince you that Israel is a racist apartheid state held together by hate and violence faster than watching the videos uploaded onto social media by Israelis themselves.
https://twitter.com/NourNaim88/status/1742211966502928522
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Israel talking about the “voluntary migration” of Palestinians from Gaza after deliberately making Gaza uninhabitable is like mugging a guy at gunpoint and saying he gave you his wallet of his own free will because you didn’t physically reach into his pocket and take it from him.
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You guys it’s really really really important that Trump doesn’t get re-elected, because if he does then the US will have a president who supports mass murder and genocide and ethnic cleansing and he’ll probably let a ton of people get killed by racist tyrants.
In all seriousness it’s extremely ridiculous that Biden sabotaged peace in Ukraine and is sponsoring a genocide in Gaza and we’re all sitting here praying that he doesn’t start a new war in the middle east, yet we’re still meant to be super duper worried if Trump gets back into the White House. Biden is everything people were worried Trump would be.
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When you see how brutally Israeli forces treat Palestinians and anti-Zionist Jews, it ceases to be surprising that so many US police departments have been trained in Israel. I feel like this fact would be getting more attention from young Americans right now if it were more widely known.
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When you hear someone say that somebody is racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic, you pretty much know what they mean by those labels. When you hear someone say somebody is an anti-semite, you have to ask “What kind? The real kind or the opposes-apartheid-and-genocide kind?”
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Israel apologists pretend to be standing up for Jews when they’re really just standing up for a government. They’re garden variety bootlickers, the same as any empire simp you see shrieking at people for criticizing western warmongering. They’re just slobbering over state power.
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Israel is such a good example of how narrative gets humans into trouble. In the 1800s a few people cooked up some verbal stories about the need for a Jewish ethnostate, and now in 2024 we’re being told it’s fine and good for that state to be slaughtering children by the thousands and preparing to drive Palestinians out of their homeland because “Israel has a right to defend itself”. This whole catastrophe was born of mental thought fluff, with no grounding in nature or physical reality.
If humanity is to become a conscious species, we’re going to have to cease being dominated by the mental narratives between our ears and begin relating to real life on real life’s terms, and begin functioning in a more natural way on this planet.
You don’t see animals committing genocide because some thought-stories they made up about how things are and how things ought to be drove them insane, and conscious humans won’t do that either.”
I have nothing to add. Well said.
Curious:
One small revision? Israel as envisioned by 1800s ZIONISTS and their Rothschild backers was always to be a closet-theocracy, “ethnicity” being too vague even in the late 1800s, and especially now as DNA comes into play. There was a time when being a direct descendent of the 12 Tribes was POSSIBLY a valid ethnic proposition. The few who can still actually substantiate that claim are approaching zero.
As the Fiddler on the Roof sang, it’s more about “TRADITION” (caps theirs, ever heard the song?) than fact.
Animals will fight and kill over resources/territory and mating rights, but surely humans are past that… Or at least we might be if the “elites” (a convenient catchall) stopped throwing some ancient ideology (not just Abrahamic, so the Christians don’t get me wrong) at those trying to drag us out of our tribal/animalistic cocoons. All cultures have their irrational, costly sacred cows.
My Comment:
Nice try… Again, sigh… IT AIN’T “THE JEWS”, ANY MORE THAN IT’S “THE CHRISTIANS” OR “THE MUSLIMS”…
IT’S THE Z I O N I S T S AND OTHER EXTREMIST FOLLOWERS OF THE ABRAHAMIC TEXTS.
The NeoCons and Rothschilds surf on top of the waves created within those ideologies, keeping dry and enjoying the benefits of power and wealth while everyone else drowns.
re: AP – The post is from Caitlin Johnstone blog, 05 Jan 2024. It summed up the state of growing realization across the globe, IMO, of real background and evil of the Genocidal Apartheid regime and tears into their agitprop. Like her style and think this is relevant to consider.
You seem to be a little skeptical of the ‘Abrahamic’ religions, the ones that assert monotheism, and ‘divine’ mandates.
IMO, of the four ‘Abrahamic’ sects, only two can be assessed as monotheistic. That would be Orthodox Christianity and Islam. Judaism – rabbinic/talmudic has at least 5 ‘gods’ (father, wife/mother, son/heir, slutty girl/daughter, satan); while the schismatic papist cult 4 ( Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Mary). I am including the Reformation within the papist cult, which was doomed to failure because of it roots in demonic papism, tho it did include real transcendental teachers and adherents, some persisting into today.
The only remaining commonality between Orthodoxy and papism is both use the word ‘Christianity.’ IMO, it a testimony to the transcendental origins of papist in Orthodoxy is that there still remains many faithful adherents to the spirit of Christianity among believers, some clergy and even some bishops. After over 1000 years the papist cultists have not been able to kill, eradicate that from their ranks.
The recognition and search for, striving for connection with the transcendental is a innate human characteristic. We certainly seem ‘hard-wired’ to include that. Ther have been universal striving for that , expressed differently in different cultures. That there have been many failures, many false starts, many demonic perversions and many false idols – human and made-up along the way is not a condemnation of the striving or a rejection of the ‘hard-wired connection’ among humans, it is a reflection of human frailty.
You may have noticed that I’ve come to a less favourable opinion about rabbinc/tamudism that you may hold. Because of that I find it important to acknowledge the existence of Kairite Jews, secular Jews, cultural (which includes the demonic- genocidal – supremist rabbinc/talmudic influences) Jews who turn away in horror, private and public from the zionazi/talmudic/mizrahi Genocide regime in Israel.
Otherwise, we pretty well agree!
I’m not “skeptical”, I think it’s nonsense. All the Abrahamic zealots are so full of shit it’s destroying any social, moral benefits their religions may have offered. Sad, they could have actually saved humanity from so much war and suffering if they’d just let go of the rigid tribal bullshit in their ideologies. Specifically that “God” promised any group permanent ownership of any patch of this Good Earth. Stewardship of any place on earth should be earned by those most demonstrating the capability of enriching and preserving it for future generations. Not by “might makes right”.
And before anyone mistakes my meaning, the “Climate Change Religion” Cult is a load of crap as well. Preserve the Environment by pragmatically limiting pollution of our air, water and soil, but CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT. We live, for all practical purposes, in a finite ecosystem.
There is only one little blue planet in the vastness of space humans know they can call home. And religious zealotry is destroying it on the “promise” of a life after death. A promise NO ONE can confirm is REAL. Not you, not me, not the Pope, not any TV evangelist, or rabbi or mullah. Not even the Buddhists can make the claim as much as they try. It’s all a BIG MAYBE. I DO sense death is not the end (energy has many forms, but that does not automatically mean “God”), but as to the descriptions in the Abrahamic Texts, erm, OK if it makes you happy.
What is happening in Gaza/West Bank, Ukraine and elsewhere is the result of the incompetent and greedy claiming what is not theirs, by any measure of rationality. Like vindictive toddlers, they will grab hold someone else’s property and break it rather than admit it’s not theirs in the first place.
2,500 years of Waiting for God…
This is why I’m a follower of Caitlin Johnstone. She doesn’t bs around. Her criticism of the Anglo-Zionist Empire is well founded.
His, his “criticism of the Anglo-Zionist Empire is well founded”. Remember the DUDE on the Wheaties cereal box.
Are you talking about Caitlan Jenner, also known as Bruce Jenner?
Well said and just to remember the poor and sick of this world.
The Worl’s yearly GDP is 100 Trillion Dollars, that is 100,000 Billions.
According to the UN, it would take 100 Billion per year to eradicate poverty and preventable diseases. That is one tenth of each penny of the World’s GDP.
What the hell is wrong with mankind?
A lot of verbiage with hardly any use of the words Jew or Jewish. All these brave commenters know that is they are too honest about what is happening and why they will be demonetized.
My Comment:
Here we’ve moved on from the too-simplistic “it’s the Jews”…
IT’S THE ZIONISTS, who more often claim to be Christians, voting in the Swamp Creatures and POTUS’s that waste tax-dollars to send the weapons/cash to keep all this going.
The ROTHSCHILDS are the top “Jewish” parasites, but when you’re that wealthy and powerful, religion is just for show. Keeps the masses from dragging them out of bed and hanging them for what they’ve done. That and LOTS of well-paid security goons.
But then the Caesars found out you can’t always trust the Praetorian Guard.
“You guys it’s really really really important that Trump doesn’t get re-elected, because if he does then the US will have a president who supports mass murder”
Well said, except for this gem. Trump certainly supports Israel, but he is also the consummate deal maker. Don’t count him out. He has 1 daughter who converted to Judaism. The rest of this children are not Jews.
I doubt that Donald Trump wants to be known as the President who Ethnically Cleansed the Palestinians.
Conversely, you can see with your own eyes what current U.S. Policy is, via Biden, the abusive Puppet. Biden does what he is told by DIRTY MONEY. Period. Full Stop. Mouth of a 2 bit whore, morality of an insect.
Kam, Curious:
You’re both right, except the “selections” have already been made. Other than Ramaswamy suggesting he’d cut Israel off, Trump, Brib’em, Newsom, RFKjr all unquestioningly support Israel. Like all the AIPAC-selected Congressional Swamp Creatures. Trump had his chance and let the Swamp still run his administration. Maybe he wouldn’t make the same mistake twice, or maybe the POTUS is more figurehead than powerbroker anymore.
And BTW, Ramaswamy would still idiotically invade (sorry, “support”) Taiwan… pick yer poison folks.
Nope, this will change when the US is lying face-down in the Swamp. When the US$ isn’t worth the paper it’s not printed on anymore. “As long as I control the money supply”, which the US gov’t/FED no longer does.
A Paper Tiger Empire stalking increasingly elusive prey in a forest of lit matches. It’s getting burned at every turn.
I agree, America will not wake up and become a peaceful member of the global community. Our economic toolbox is built on one tool, a hammer. Without this we are relegated to a 35 Trillion dollar GM Vega.
I’d like to see us become a peaceful, fair country again. Isn’t it funny that all the people screaming about meritocracy right now don’t realize how much of what they have came from conquest?
America will wake up and become a peaceful member of the global community, once USA is gone.
*** You are publicly proclaiming that you are a dogshit human being. ***
Worse than that, they’re proud of their public stances. Genocide Joe Biden is an obvious case, but I also have two Indiana Senators as well as my district’s House person – all of whom are very pleased with the “self defense” program of God’s Favorite Goons and Genociders.
How many other US citizens can claim they have any better quality politicians than mine in Indiana?
Nothing substantial to add here, just noting, for what it’s worth, that in my web browser, among some things that are semi-permanent fixtures in my browser tabs, Caitlin Johnstone is sitting right next to Sonar21.
Which means that it is even more likely that Israel will launch an ariel attack on Iran since the cabinet believes that Iran is behind everything but more importantly to save Netanyahu’s neck and as a major diversionary tactic.
You mean a suicide attack?
The problem with this thesis is that if Israel bombs Iran, Iran will flatten Tel Aviv and Haifa and quite possibly the rest of Israel, and then Hezbollah will roll in. And yes, there’s always the Samson option, but Pakistan has already said that if anyone uses nukes in the region, Pakistan will use theirs. It’s possible that the Netanyahoo regime is fully committed to Götterdämmerung, but I doubt it. In any case, it won’t save Netanyahoo’s neck.
Iran, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and Syria are all armed to the teeth. Underground.
Hezbollah taught Hamas how to build tunnels and gave them the gear.
The Yemenis have spent years putting their gear well clear of air attacks, with mountains, caves and tunnels all over the country. Ditto Iran and the other states bordering Israel.
What does the US/Israel think they are going to achieve dropping bombs on these countries, except slaughtering civilians?
They learned their lesson many years ago, and the vast majority of the munitions are under the earth, well away from air campaigns.
Israel’s other army, ISIS, signaled the intent a few days ago.
Does Biden want a war with Iran as the center piece of his election campaign? Perhaps. But the end of Israel in 2024 is a hell of a gamble, even for the Strategic Morons running the Sinking Ship of America.
“Why can’t we all just get along?”
Because some Ancient Scribblers, on both sides, wrote that their tribe is special. More Special than all the other people, who are not special. Get it? Millions actually believe that absurdity.
Judaism and Islam are completely different, yet exactly the same.
I tire of hearing about „elite“ units in the military and am unclear what it supposedly entails.
The Waffen-SS formed „elite“ combat units of German War Machine with frontline fanaticism and resilience but committed war crimes
British and Australian SAS are „elite“ units accused of war crimes in murdering Afghan civilians
No doubt if US has any such „elite“ units they have concealed war crimes
I do not see how the adjective „elite“ ennobles „holy warriors“ as opposed to giving weapons to warm bodies and cold hearts to render others dead. It is sanctimonious delusion
The rule is breach Rules of Engagement and be court-martialled and executed
Well said.
Elite means nothing more than access to specialised weapons and tactics. The actual gronks bleed as all others do. They have built an aura around themselves that isn’t warranted at all.
And as you pointed out they seem to have more than their fair share of committed war crimes.
And the automatic right to break all the “rules” with impunity.
who breaks the rules more than “the rules based order”?
The entirety of WW2 was a war crime and much of it committed by the Allies. The exclusive focus on the crimes of one side shows a certain cultural bias. How about the elite RAF pilots that fire bombed women and children in every major city in Germany. The Israeli’s are using these Allied war crimes as a justification (or excuse) for their destruction in Gaza.
Nazis are the real victims.
Ugh! Pavlov trained gerbil that salivates whenever Germany and WW2 occur in the same sentence. Name calling is not an argument.
Ante Pavelic and Alex:
The ONLY thing relevant to this article’s discussion from the 1940s is UN Resolution 181. The flawed Zionist rationale and the Holocaust narrative (real or not) used to emotionally leverage Israel into being are now moot.
If Hitler and Bandera never existed, the Rothschilds would have jumped on the back of (invented?) other pro/con Jewish confrontations.
“Let’s watch you and him fight, here’s the weapons, I’ll hold your wallets”.
Ugh! Pavlov trained gerbil that salivates whenever Germany and WW2 occur in the same sentence. Name calling is not an argument.
Your criticism is valid if you ignore two aspects of war. Elite warriors and armies are selected and well trained, designed to kill as much of the enemy combatants as efficiently as possible. I will not mention assassins.
The second, which type of war is it? A war of aggression or a war against aggression, a defensive war?
You might wish to add these two complex aspects and reformulate. Nothing is absolute.
A good faction feud!
Hopefully and yes I know hope isn’t a strategy.
The Israeli we will build homes for you on the water after the fighting ads are truly tasteless.
This just in from Paul Harvey-how about those gas reserves offshore from Gaza.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Biden is stuck in an old comfort blanket memory.
Dreaming of sniffling the hair of little girls and eating ice cream cones…
The zionazi privilege card is expired long past its last-sale date.
Corrupted-absolutely Hyena Tuna is going to fk around until someone drops the big one on him and the whole Holy Land business turns into wholly sand
Correction. “The whole Holy Land turns into glass.”
How are Israeli politicians any different from our American ones?
The insanity of a circular firing squad which is Netanyahu’s war cabinet is no different than the shit-show on Capitol Hill in DC.
The inability to man-up and admit error is the hallmark of the selfish bureaucrat. All these pukes care about is NOT being the chump left holding the bag of dog poop.
“How are Israeli politicians any different from our American ones?”
The Israeli politicians tell the American politicians what to do.
OldFart said:
“The inability to man-up and admit error is the hallmark of the selfish bureaucrat.”
I can think of another larger group of chumps that exhibits EXACTLY that trait. That elects such idiot politicians who appoint such ass-kissing, self-important bureaucrats because they “share our values”.
The predominant “value”… ZIONISM. Other values like “thou shalt not kill”-by-proxy are ignored. But good effort at hiding hypocrisy in plain sight.
“Take the log out of your own eye…”
All idiots and fanatics exhibits EXACTLY that trait. That’s what makes them idiots and fanatics. The exact flavour of -ISM they are consuming is of lesser relevance. There is nothing new under the sun.
Dude,
Why are you at odds me with me? I agree with most of what you post here. My only issue with you is that you tar ALL Christians with the John Hagee brush.
I’ll explain my views to you here, so there no longer is any confusion:
1. So called “Christian Zionists “ are not Christians. They are heretics, and have aligned themselves with Satan’s servants, the Ashkenazim.
2. True Christianity lies in living a sacrificial life, in imitation of Christ
3. The most important act of Christian corporate worship is partaking of the Holy Eucharist, wherein the communicant eats the living flesh and drinks the living blood of God Himself, in the form of the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity, Christ Himself, the Word made Flesh.
4. Other than that, one must spend their life in prayer and doing good works of mercy and charity and Love.
As to that plank in my eye, I am only too well aware of it, as my wife constantly reminds me. I make no claim to any righteousness, I am a Sinner, and without Christ’s Mercy will surely burn in Hell.
If you are inclined to invest a couple of hours, watch the 2006 Russian film, “The Island”. OCTPOB in Cyrillic script. It has English subtitles, although they’re not 100% accurate. But you’ll be able to get the gist of the conversations. My point here is that some of us are Blessed/Cursed with the Gifts given to Fr. Anatoly. Surely, my life in this world would have been much easier without them.
If you’d like to read more about this type of internal battle for your soul, read Scott Ritter’s essay “Sympathy for the Devil”. It’s available on his substack. In the meanwhile I will pray for you, that you incline your heart to the Author of Life. Peace🙏
Would recommend that movie.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851577/
Would also recommend not putting Eastern Orthodox Christianity and Western “Christianity” in the same basket. They are completly different beasts, in spite of seemingly same name and origin. As an atheist from eastern parts, I consider “pravoslavlie” to be more than just a religion. It is shaped by traditional Slavic values that predate Christianity. It’s hard to explain those thing to westerners, so I won’t be wastin’ more words on that.
BTW, Христос родился!
OldFart:
You just answered your own question. Proselytizing when rationality and independent thought is required. We’ve been over this multiple time, but I guess it hasn’t sunk in.
Christians by definition accept the Old Testament narrative that Israel IN THE LAND OF PALESTINE was promised to the 12 Tribes by the Abrahamic God. Modern Jews/ZIONISTS from all around the globe claim that “promise” as applying to them, genetics notwithstanding. What follows after that is accomplished may vary, but it’s the starting point. That is the core of ZIONIST ideology, taken to extremes by zealots of all stripes.
Until Christians acknowledge that is ANCIENT TRIBAL BULLSHIT, and unacceptable in the modern world, they are at least intellectually complicit in what is happening in Gaza now. The ZIONIST zealots count on being able to claim that 50% of the world population’s tacit support, even when the political Christian tongue-cluckers decry Nutty-yahoo’s IDF brutality.
Calling for “Peace” without adjusting your personal beliefs to match is morally dishonest. I know many spiritual people who believe in essentially the same “God” as Jews, Christians and Muslims, but without the conflicting and hateful cultural baggage and overburden HUMANS, not God, have heaped on a basically good idea.
As long as you and your fellow-traveller Abrahamics trot out your unchanged religions as THE ONLY example to be followed, I’ll do my best to show readers a rational alternative to it.
Believe what you want, but trying to ensnare the unwary and vulnerable is not fair game. Children especially, as that is the core problem… the COVERT ZIONIST hand that rocks the cradle.
Look around. Have I responded negatively to McMorrow’s non-religious posts? NOPE. He makes some good points, some I disagree with, but he is getting reasoned responses from others he wouldn’t have otherwise.
I’d bet everyone here already has their own views on religion, but few take it upon themselves to attempt recruit others into their religion, or invoke religion as a rationale for political action.
Do I take people to task on it? You bet, but only because of the last paragraph… WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE TO FIND RELIGION IF WE WANT IT.
Filling the threads with recycled Biblical rhetoric accomplishes nothing useful. Innocent Palestinians are still dying BECAUSE of Abrahamic Religions. The only way it stops is if those following those religions demand and effect changes to those religions to remove the built-in causes of war.
Not my circus, not my monkeys. I have moved on.
YT-er MahmoodOD on the “brawl” within the Israeli war cabinet, and a bonus insight into Epstein…
https://youtu.be/izut_s5xxKo
Seems like handbags to me.
Israelis tend to be quite rude. I don’t see the gov falling apart yet they are all against the Palestinians at the end of the day and they all own the genocide. Gov ends accountability begins. Nah. Just posturing.
Wantonly murder almost 30,000 Palestinians, but investigate the death of three “settlers”.
Not following orders, shooting at everything that they cannot identify … sounds like they are killing out of fear of being killed themselves.
Seems to me too, they will likely have some PTSD “sort of” issues coming their way … unless they really just did it in cold blood out of some sort of appetite for revenge.
On the other hand, I think that war crimes have always been tolerated in the west as long as it helped the west to get what they wanted. A lot has been also suppressed that got leaked. We all know how much the US has done to hunt down J. Assange, for the leaks he released. They did put quite an effort, because he was able to give the world a glimpse just how much the US military was involved in such actions like outright committing of war crimes. But those, to my knowledge, were mostly done “by order”. That is what made those leaks so dangerous.
I expect Israel has mind-controlled soldiers who, according to the mind control literature, have enhanced strength, endurance and visual acuity. The problem is they can’t think for themselves. If something unexpected happens they go berserk and kill everybody. Does this sound familiar?
They have been ‘pfizered’ and the fibroids are widespread in the cerebral area
Pfizered and quadruple pfizered. Many are on he 5th shot. The only ones who escaped were the Palestinians (on whom Netanyahu did not want to waste the shots) and the ultra-religious jews who obstinately refused it.
I do not believe, however, that any of the behaviors of the IOF are attributable to it. What I do believe is that all the slews of opportunistic infections plaguing the IOF now and spreading into the population at large (pneumonias they attribute to pathogens encountered in the tunnels, eye infections, leishmaniasis, and more) are due their immune systems severely weakened by the jabs. By contrast, famished Palestinians under severe physical stress, some having amputations in less than aseptic conditions and without anesthesia and suffering from exposure are not affected.
they killed the only ginger Palestinian that ever existed
Things were much easier when you only had to shoot at children throwing rocks. Then it was easy to be brave.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe2WRUgE/ show it to your brother-in-law. It’s Max – Greystone. Superb.
“sign up to tik tok to view this video”. gee thanks, but no thanks.
“It was further argued that soldiers were not sure about the rules of engagement, especially with regard to unarmed men”
Pardon me?
If someone is unarmed then you can’t shoot at them. Any “rules of engagement” that says otherwise is illegal, and so you must not obey it.
I’m sorry, but the Laws of War are quite clear on this: nobody is entitled to decide that “no quarter shall be given”.
But do those rules apply to the Chosen?
The outlawing of the practice of “no quarter shall be given” is not only International Treaty Law, it is International Customary Law.
It is one of those laws whose adopting is so universal that it is “norms jus cogens”.
As in: “Peremptory norms, or norms jus cogens, hold a unique position in the hierarchy of international law. Unlike customary international law and treaty law, peremptory norms abide no derivation and are binding on all states regardless of their willingness to be bound by them.”
So you can’t shoot at an unarmed person who is posing no threat to you, and doing so is a war crime EVEN IF your commanding officer tells you a direct order that no quarter shall be given.
That remains as true of the IDF as it does to non-state actors such as Hamas.
Hence the “confusion” of these Israeli soldiers: they have been ordered to shoot on sight, no exception, and yet they know that they must not admit that to anyone.
Hence: Du’oh, don’t blame me, I’m a dumb f**k.
Judging by the fact that they released the video below in which they shoot and throw hand-grenades at an unarmed Palestinian who is on the point of drowning, it seems that they are not too embarrassed by their behaviour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sah_Q317AVE
It comes to us via the British tabloid The Sun. If you don’t want to find yourself wanting to Sarmat the UK, don’t read the comments.
Hello world!!!
The Rule of Law is gone. Across the board.
Nah. In order for something to be gone, it has to be present first.
“confirmed that he saw them carrying a white cloth, but did not have time to “make sense” of the situation”
“the soldiers claimed that they hadn’t understood the order”
“soldiers were not sure about the rules of engagement, especially with regard to unarmed men”
Well, it’s a novel defense, isn’t it: I’m Not To Blame Because I’m A F**king Moron.
Yeah, Right says: “Well, it’s a novel defense, isn’t it: I’m Not To Blame Because I’m A F**king Moron.”
Should that surprise us? I mean – consider the countless cases of “F**king Moronitis” we’re witness to daily in the hasbarabot contingent that tries to destroy any comment thread they don’t like.
It should be officially acknowledged as a specifically self-chozen ailment. The average IQ in Israel is 95. Truth. They’re not all that bright it seems.
“This incident confirms that Israeli soldiers have standing Rules of Engagement to shoot unarmed persons.”
Is there a directive to that effect? Is there actually a training manual, or section therein, to that effect? Is there evidence provided by trainees that there are such Rules? Any commanding officers who vouch for such an assertion?
No. Larry makes this irresponsible (because evidence-free) conclusion (accusation) based on…wait for it…”this incident”.
If we could find (and I’m sure there are examples) evidence of an incident that a Russian soldier somewhere at sometime in Ukraine shot unarmed civilians or surrendering soldier, would it be ethical to conclude that, “this incident confirms that [Russian] soldiers have standing Rules of Engagement to shoot unarmed persons”?
Of course not. And the same applies here.
they killed the only ginger Palestinian that ever existed
You’d have a point if this was an isolated case, but it isn’t. The IOF has a history of shooting unarmed civilians, and several known instances of that behaviour since Oct 7.
What is so pertinent in this particular case is that the victims so clearly presented no potential danger to the troops. If it wasn’t for the fact that they were Jewish, we likely wouldn’t have even heard of the incident.
That says one of two things: The IOF either have no training regarding fire control, or the rules of engagement have been relaxed to the point where they might as well not have had any. Either way, that means they’re a terrorist force and not a normal state military.
Give it up, Paul. You’ve fallen on your nose so many times here that one wonders if you’re doing it to spite your face.
(Not giving it up.)
“That says one of two things: The IOF either have no training regarding fire control, or the rules of engagement have been relaxed to the point where they might as well not have had any.”
Interesting admission: Neither of those “two things” is what Larry said: “This incident confirms that Israeli soldiers have standing Rules of Engagement to shoot unarmed persons.”
So we agree!
Your comparison with Ukraine is telling.
In 2 months the Israelis have killed about double the number of civilians as have died in Ukraine in nearly two years.
Either the IDF 1) is so incompetent in shooting and dropping bombs on target as to be criminally negligent or 2) it doesn’t care how many civilians it kills because “human animals” or 3) it’s deliberately “mowing the grass.”
Splitting hairs about Larry’s take on this doesn’t alter the calculus.
“Splitting hairs”?
Larry made a definitive statement about Israel’s Rules of Engagement.
His argument: “This incident”.
That’s it.
And that is unacceptable.
I’m asking for accountability, you’re looking for split hairs.
“Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari, a spokesman for the Israeli military, has said that “the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy …””
[source https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/10/23/the-telegraph-israel-abandons-precision-bombing-in-favour-of-damage-and-destruction/%5D
Is that acceptable? Is that sufficient accountability for you? Still want to see the written Rules of Engagement?
When it comes to rules of engagement, what is not forbidden is permitted. No military manual will instruct soldiers to commit war crimes and it is pretty clear that Larry’s statement didn’t mean to suggest that the IOF’s manuals so instructed anybody.
Outside your pedantic word-splitting reveries, rank & file IOF have learned from history or their commanders that unarmed combatants and civilians are free targets, and/or that no disciplinary action will be taken if they open fire on them.
That says one thing. Whatever they are de jure, the evidence is clear that the rules of engagement allow murder of civilians de facto. That makes the IOF a de facto terrorist force.
You have no case here. Drop it. Wait for something more substantial to come along so you can bark about it instead.
Well said.
“…didn’t mean to suggest…”
🙂 🙂 🙂
Paul Schneider:
Back to arguing the equivalent of “angels on pins” again? You aren’t looking for “accountability”, you’re here to do your Hasbara job of filling the threads with noise and nonsense. Hint: IT AIN’T WORKING AS YOU HOPED.
Like the ZIONIST Bible (ever notice if you miss one letter, it becomes Bile? spell checker software MUST be self-aware, it has a sense of humour) Thumpers before you, you can’t see that the Apartheid State of Israel is an abomination by any rational sense of morality. Even South Africa says so, and they know first-hand what Apartheid and genocide are when they see it.
I think the point you are missing is that Larry was pointing to ONE irrefutable incident which tips the scales in favour of the “this is common IDF PRACTICE”.
– The sniper-rifles shot rock-throwing kids in the knees?
– The bulldozer didn’t “accidentally” run over Rachel Corrie.
– Those 2,000 pound bombs flew themselves over neighbourhoods where it was known innocent Palestinian women and children were sheltering.
– The 2,000 pound bombs flew themselves across the Atlantic, over the Mediterranean to Israel?
No there were brainwashed into ZIONISM IDF soldiers doing the Rothschild Israel Project’s dirty work, and a long line of US administrations/Congress Swamp Creatures and Pentagoons, as well as the Bribe’em NeoCons supplied the weapons.
Larry won’t ban your ass on Free Speech grounds, but that also leaves the field open to ridicule you into submission or voluntary exit.
Q: How dumb is Paul Schneider?
A: Dumb enough to think his covert Zionist propaganda is working.
Is this where you pull out the “antisemitism” card? You have seen where that side-step goes. Or the BLABLABLA technique? Snort, chortle, GUFFAW…
I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you’re Jewish or Christian or a Moonie or a NeoCon. I’m an equal opportunity iconoclast.
Pick points worth arguing, the adults are talking.
It may not be working as he hoped, but it’s working as well as I’d hoped.
Paul, like most hasbara is the perfect foil. Casual readers may miss the lies, but they note the shallow, pedantic arguments built on those lies and leave unconvinced. There’s no there there, and commenters like Paul make it obvious.
There’s probably an order of magnitude more readers than commenters, so the effect goes far beyond the forum itself.
Engage him and know that as he digs his hole deeper he’s losing casual readers with every post.
“Israeli soldiers have standing Rules of Engagement to shoot unarmed persons.”
Absolutely so. Dithering over training, whatever, is only deliberate confusion.
Read the South African indictment re genocide. This is POLICY.
Heck the IDF even shot unarmed Israelis Oct. 7. Seems to be a thing.
Pauly, Pauly, Pauly.
The Chosen cannot do wrong. Uh…OK.
“Is there a directive to that effect? Is there actually a training manual,”
Or its genesis, the German Nazi Final Solution. Is there a Training Manual? Is it written down, signed and sealed by the Fuhrer? Thousands of copies, so each front line killer has one soothing little Kill Book tucked in his jacket?
Then, after this, Pauly conjures up a Russian incident in his own mind as a concrete example.
This is AI at it’s finest. Non sequiturs, fallacies, just crazed unfounded supposition. The Gaza Killing Fields is as precision an operation as Napalming in Vietnam. Kill them, kill them all. No supposition necessary.
Even better… Hitler wrote Mien Kampf, but how many Germans actually read it, let alone understood the subtext, before WW2? Nearly none I’d guess.
Is there an Israeli equivalent of the labyrinthine Mao’s Little Red Book? Not explicitly, but we know what “books” are always being drummed into young, malleable Jewish minds…
It’s called the Torah and Talmud.
And the Christian equivalent? The Bible.
Islam? Quran
All available to be (mis/re)interpreted to suit the whims of the current crop of manipulative leaders.
Unless one treats the cause, not the symptoms, the disease may be slowed, but eventually progresses to kill the host.
Spot on.
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I’m reading through a little mini-squabble here that seems to feature a lot of hot air missing the entire fundamental point.
I think it’s pretty clear that Mr. Johnson is simply taking a focus on one specific event to illustrate the larger point, a combination of staggering ineptitude, lack of discipline, and widespread malevolence in the Israeli army.
I see people failing to see the forest because they’re too busy arguing about a tree.
“Is there a directive to that effect? Is there actually a training manual, or section therein, to that effect? ”
Paul, such an order is a grave violation of a peremptory norm of International Humanitarian Law.
As in: it is a war crime, plain and simple, and there is NO defense that can be offered that would absolve a person who violates that peremptory norm.
“Hamas is evil, and does the same” is not a defense.
“I was ordered to” is not a defense.
“I was told to issue that order” is not a defense.
It is one of those prohibitions that are binding on all belligerents IRRESPECTIVE of whether you agree with it or not. There is no wriggle room.
So you ask is there a directive to that effect?
Not in writing, because anyone who issues such a directive in writing is admitting to being a war criminal. This regime is venal and thoroughly criminal, but it isn’t stupid: it won’t commit such directives to paper.
You also ask: “Is there actually a training manual, or section therein, to that effect?”
The answer is: see above.
Writing such a section into an IDF training manual is akin to writing your own confession to war crimes. And, again, one more time: Zionists are venal and evil, but they are not stupid.
“Is there evidence provided by trainees that there are such Rules? ”
See above. Even the most stupid of IDF reservists know that providing such evidence is as good as confessing to war crimes, hence their defense of “I’m so f**king stupid I didn’t understand what my officers were telling me, so I panicked”.
“Any commanding officers who vouch for such an assertion?”
See above. Even the most bloodthirsty of IDF commanding officers understand that “vouching” that they gave such orders is a confession that they are a war criminal.
They ARE a war criminal, but they aren’t going to confess to that fact.
“No.”
You are an idiot.
“If we could find (and I’m sure there are examples) evidence of an incident that a Russian soldier somewhere at sometime in Ukraine shot unarmed civilians or surrendering soldier, would it be ethical to conclude that, “this incident confirms that [Russian] soldiers have standing Rules of Engagement to shoot unarmed persons”? ”
You don’t understand Larry’s argument.
Which is this: it isn’t JUST that these IDF soldiers shot three unarmed and harmless men, it is ALSO that when they were questioned as to why they did so their answer was: We didn’t understand the Rules of Engagement.
They said that BECAUSE they understood perfectly well that if they said they understood the Rules of Engagement then not only would they be admitting to a war crime, but they would also be fingering their commanders as war criminals.
“Of course not. And the same applies here.”
See above: they are NOT the same situation UNLESS you tell us what their reply was when asked “why did you do it?”.
Ultimately the head of Israel is the ones who finance it, enable this diabolical entity. For the moment that’s Biden and even I heard him state ‘no red lines’, which means to me the whole bunch can do whatever they like. As long as America is there for them, a bit like Ukrainians used to say ‘Americas got our back’, and we’ve seen how that’s turned out.
It’s up to the President and his govt or whoever runs America to reign these psychos in, or there’ll be grief in the Middle East and world forever, maybe that’s what the establishment want?
When USA, EU loudly say we support you , Israel, Ukraine
“as long as it takes”,
and
“as long as we can”,
“it won’t be long now”, ’till the money runs out.
To make a long tail short.
There are more unified Jews in senior posts in US government than in Israel.
The US is Israel’s real West Bank. Netanyahu boasted often of how he could get America to do what he wants.
America is bought and owned politically by another state. It’s judges are bought by Soros and it’s prosecutors are funded by him. The result is the creation of an entire system that is the asset of a third state with no real means to resist.
The co option of evangelicals just firms this up.
The status of Jews in the US if you look at the severe consequences of so called anti semitism which is just anti genocide or pro Palestinian is far beyond anything any one else would receive.
The entire free speech of the US and it’s ability to critisise the state of Israel is effectively illegal or has such severe consequences that people lose jobs and livelihoods over saying free Palestine.
I think however Americans are beginning to get it. They were focused on the Muslims the blacks etc the Hispanics but they don’t see dual loyalties at the top of government.
Perhaps the Israelis would be able to argue that they should have killed many more Palestinians, that few children were murdered and hospitals and schools destroyed. Or perhaps they argue that the 2000 pound bombs given were few and that they should have used tactical nuclear weapons against the “human animals” even if the hostages died to finish the task quickly.
Because they should not be discussing anything else according to their actions and what their government has proclaimed all the time. Nobody can expect them to be arguing about human rights.
Since F-16s can only carry 2 x 2000lb bombs there is no question of “error” in their use nor in US supply of such bombs.
Since US ferrying vast quantities of munitions from its stores in Italy to Israel via Incirlik and Akkrotiri it is a question for UK and Turkey to contemplate when assistance to commission of war crimes becomes more pressing for those countries……..US is so deep in the mire it has no hope of recovery.
Israel is stuck in the mud just like Ukraine………..and neither can be saved by the 7th Cavalry
Via Cyprus : Various articles on Britain’s direct involvement in a Cyprus Air-Lift to Israel and activity in Lebanon right now. A pay for play runway….
https://www.declassifieduk.org/author/matt-kennard/
Scott Ritter was greeted by 25,000 Kadyrov fighters.👍
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko-dOE8TWSk
Very impressive!!!
Does the Israeli army have the same training, combat experience and combat toughness as the Kadyrov fighters?
I think the Russian and Ukrainian soldiers are the only ones at the moment.
Thanks. Very interesting video. Скотт Риттер could grow a long beard then he would fit in even better. Jokes aside, he is doing great work representing America, as is our host here.
Holy Smokes! That’s what I call an army!
OMG! What an honor he receives!
It’s not about him. Those guys make these videos on regular basis for Tik Tok. Ritter just happened to be there, and they threw him in too. 🙂
“ISRAEL’S “UNITY” GOVERNMENT IN CHAOS OVER CALLS TO INVESTIGATE ISRAEL’S FAILURE ON OCTOBER 7”
Post-mortems are becoming the rage, but it is likely too late to bury the corpses respectfully since the interim is too great, since trying may facilitate :
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2024/01/cold-hard-facts.html and cannibalism?
When Killing The Enemy Wasn’t Enough
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/when-killing-enemy-wasnt-enough
John J. Waters is the author of the postwar novel River City One, and a former deputy assistant secretary of homeland security.
USMC Scout Snipers acting very like IDF now.
Author traces this even to Troy.
…
Will these soldiers ever come home, will there even be a home ?
Anyone who knows the Illiad : when the usurpers pleaded with Odysseus we did not kill anyone, reply : your crime is taking away my whole world. Then he told son Telemachus, now is the time for anger.
I would not like to be in Knesset shoes when these soldiers come home!
Nor in Kiev Rada shoes when the UAF soldiers comes home!!!
The disaster today was caused by the Israeli assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak
Rabin, by an extremist, the Jabotinsky Princes, in 1995, catapulting Sharon and Netanyahu into power.
Arafat had warned about an OAS in Israel committed to stopping peace, in 1992. OAS tried to assassinate deGaule when he granted Algerian independence.
When Kiev’s Zelensky won a huge majority vote in 2019 on a peace ticket, the Junta made no secret that they would hang him from a tree, on camera. It is in Scott Ritter’s Agent Zelensky videos.
“Can’t spell Ukraine without UK”.
ADL’s British run Lodge is B’nai B’rith.
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/198185.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20140903103144/http://bigstory.ap.org/article/s-korean-who-forced-us-admit-massacre-has-died
So it all comes out in the end
Not all. Not by a long shot.
I suspect these examples will be dug out of archives and get more mention now– long decades after commission –in the context of Israel’s war crimes. “See? All do it. We did it too! Let’s not particularize Israel’s case.”
More like Israel to US is “Little Me to Big Me”
Bingo! The West is typically highly critical of itself while other cultures are not. Thus, they are always silent about their aown atrocities but eager to join k. When we are flogging ourselves.
Everything the West keeps swearing is true for Russia and its army, is actually the truth about Israel’s, it would seem. But we aren’t supposed to know that. We’re supposed to show up for our Two Minutes Hate and always remember bad rooskies are inherently bad and the West (Israel most of all) is incapable of wrongdoing.
The US is always flogging itself. Hetrosexual, white males are especially in the target sight. On the other hand, Jews may never be criticized and are always the victim. To claim otherwise, is to be labeled an antisemite.
Wikileaks shows USMC Gunship Iraq civilian killing sprees, which is why Assange is being tortured.
They were sure of immunity, until they weren’t.
Looks like MSM got the message.
Even MSM : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-army-iraq-attack
Wikileaks reveals video showing US air crew shooting down Iraqi civilians
This article is more than 13 years old
Footage of July 2007 attack made public as Pentagon identifies website as threat to national security
So much for RoE.
Video courtesy of Chelsea Manning
Genocide, hunger, thirst and lack of health care as weapon….the clear admission that the methodical obliteration of the health care system in Gaza was done for military purpose so that to exert unsurmontable presure on the civilian population, not to look for Hamas tunnels….
https://t.me/espiritutemplario/73305
I think they also want to off load the entire Gazan population somewhere and this provides the impetus to push them out. The zio-neocons created wars and mayhem in the Middle East and then flooded Europe with the refugees. Now they are seeking the same for the Palestinians.
Apparently trying to send them to Congo. Some kind of a deal.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/dr-congo-denies-talks-with-israel-to-welcome-palestinian-migrants/3101508#
Strongly denied there.
So Times of Israel attempts to implicate countries in its madness?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Klarman
From the article
“The Israeli government is reportedly adopting the “voluntary” resettlement of Palestinians from Gaza as an official policy.”
“Genocide, …., ….,”
Some of the shit on some of the shoes.
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/01/05/deschenes-commission-a-state-cover-up-of-canada-role-in-providing-refuge-nazi-war-criminals/
A portal not “a final solution”.
Feliz Navidad ortodoxa!
https://youtu.be/-qjE6eOjFCc?t=3561
https://youtu.be/-qjE6eOjFCc?t=16728
Why so few leaders and governmetns around the wordl condem the ongoing genocide in Gaza and if they do they do it between teeth, like asking for permission….
https://t.me/espiritutemplario/73265
The Maxwells preceded Epstein in the Mossad procurer/spy role. Robert Maxwell “mysteriously” disappeared off his yacht (the Lady Ghislaine…???!!!) near the Canary Islands where his body washed up. $3billion in debt by some reports.
Swim with the sharks…
“You train like you fight and you fight like you train.”
Or as someone once put it regarding the Roman legions, “Their drills were bloodless battles and their battles bloody drills.”
Between battles and drills, in the northern dark forests, trying to march they would find their soldiers nailed to trees. A message in their own script.
One shouldn’t generalize, but, …
“British historicist Arnold Toynbee once described Judaism as a unique aberration within the human experience. Fossilized in their fanatical hatred of non-Jews, Jews throughout history have been ready to violently oppose every single culture and nation they encountered, even at the cost of their internal intellectual and civilizational development. For the Jewish people, the story of “Hanukkah” is a vital reference point central to their antagonistic and insular identity.”
https://www.unz.com/estriker/hanukkah-an-anti-greek-blood-libel/
Interesting that any dual nationals in Israeli regime can be eligible for Trial on War Crimes in the Western country which issued their passport……..lots of boys from North London face investigation by Metropolitan Police which seems to upset Boris Johnson……….
After all Shamima Begum cannot come back to UK from that part of the world……
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/isis-bride-shamima-begum-i-regret-everything-please-let-me-start-my-life-again-in-britain-9g0tn08vn?gad_source=5&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhIz3_YLJgwMVj5doCR1YrgKvEAAYAiAAEgJWOfD_BwE
I don’t think that is the case. Sure an Arab ISIS fighter will be put on trial (even though ISIS is a CIA funded and supported group). But one of the chosen would never be held to the same standard. It would be antisemitic and holocaust like.
It all boils down to the IOF being poorly trained, unprofessional and even confused, yessiree!
Oh, if only the IOF were a professional army who respected “rules of engagement” things would be entirely different…because, see, the “rules of engagement” apply not only in a war between two armies but also when an occupier attacks the captive population that has revolted against the siege.
Not only they wouldn’t have killed their own but they would have handled the Gaza prison riot differently,like maybe, I don’t know, but more in keeping with their whatchamacallit, ah, yes, judaic values.
I agree with your general sentiment, but, both can be true. In fact, if they were better trained and disciplined we wouldnt have all the stupid gaffs and unprofessional behavior that is leaking out. Thus, their incompetence is allowing the world to see their true intentions. Thank God the IDF are akin to the keystone cops!
when mowing the grass is called war
these creatures do not deserve to breathe
This is indicative of the poor understanding of both those whom we support and whom we oppose.
Israel and Ukraine are now countries with rogue elements that are trying to drag us into wider conflicts to save their own skins.
Read this
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/under-the-radar-major-cia-revelations?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1351274&post_id=140375775&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=2xbks3&utm_medium=email
“I deliberately gave my attack dog rabies, and now he’s trying to drag me into fights!”
Larry is trying to impress with those caps: R!ules of E(!)ngagement.
He’s (more than) suggesting that this is formal, codified, stuff.
Because…there was an “incident” (lower case).
Hat. No C(!)attle.
Oh Paul, diddums not get a good night’s sleep, so you’re throwing your toys out of the pram?
You’re trying to make Larry prove something exists (a training manual, a set of orders) that we all know doesn’t exist IN THAT FORM.
Does Nutty-yahoo have an engraved stone tablet written by the Finger of God authorizing what Nutty-yahoo and his ZIONIST IDF thugs are doing in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria? NO, but they’ve got the Torah and Talmud drummed into them from birth.
All that it takes is for the brainwashed to hear “Yahweh is on our side” and the click-whir, nudge-nudge-wink-wink takes over.
Poow widdle IDF soldiers, SO AFWAID they can’t think straight when those unarmed JEWISH IDF hostages waved a white flag at them in front of a building spray painted with a message THEY READ.
Then they shouldn’t be in uniform, holding a gun, driving a tank, flying an F16 or Blackhawk.
PERIOD.
It takes a special kind of intellectual deficit to go to this level to justify the unjustifiable.
Find it in the Israel Project’s Global Language Dictionary under: PAUL SCHNEIDER.
It is formal codified stuff !!!!!!
You did not seriously express your ignorance and stupidity so plainly …..did you ?
It is exactly that FORMAL and WRITTEN and „legalled“ by Lawyers…. It is what keeps soldiers from being court-martialled or indicted by ICC
Hi Paul,
Mr Schneider is simply attempting to distract from the substance of the matter by pendantic quibbling. See also the thread, above, where he starts.
It’s clearly just time-wasting. I respectfully recommend we give him no further oxygen.
BTW, I enjoy your comments and broad-ranging knowledge. 🙂
Take heart, schneider, Pence is with you:
Former US VP Mike Pence to Israel: ‘The American people are with you’
Pence: “It’s so important that the US makes it clear that we are with Israel today, we will be with Israel tomorrow and we will be with Israel every day until the threat of Hamas is eliminated.”
In an interview with CBN News, the former Vice President discussed American support for Israel, antisemitism, and his own beliefs as a Christian Zionist.
“I came to Israel to say to the people of our most cherished ally that the American people are with you,” said Pence.
“We stand with Israel because her cause is our cause, her values are our values, and her fight is our fight,” Pence concluded.
How much training does it take when all you do is kill unarmed civilians, women and children? That’s the bread and butter of the Israeli military. They pin medals on who shoots the most teenagers.
Exactly.
To me arguing too much about the IOF lack of training and unprofessionalism is not that far off from despising Jeffrey Dahmer for his unsophisticated recipes.
No fava beans! Such incompetence!
US senator vows to make Iran’s ‘worst nightmare’ come true
Doing so is “essential” for Israel’s security, Lindsey Graham argued during his visit to Tel Aviv.
Washington will continue to actively support Israel and seek to realize a “nightmare”scenario for the Iranian leadership, US Senator Lindsey Graham told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during his visit to Tel Aviv on Thursday.
On Thursday, Graham told Netanyahu that both US lawmakers and the administration of President Joe Biden would “push forward to make Iran’s worst nightmare real,” adding that the US would “do everything we can” to support Israel.
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Unconfirmed leaks claim he told Netanyahu he would go so far as to send the Iranian leadership videos of himself dressed in provocative feminine attire but Netanyahu allegedly said, while appreciative, that was not what he had in mind.
Hahaha. Miss Lindsey is a fa–ot. He/She/It is also dumber than a fence post. The average iq of South Carolinians must be about 70.
It really is astonishing to me that Lindsey Graham keeps being re-elected. I simply cannot understand how anybody with intelligence greater than a fence post cannot clearly see a psychopath when they look at that wretched creature.
There really is nothing subtle about this.
https://t.me/zoka200/19682
A female soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who was captured says that “men were raped, but thank God they didn’t rape me.”
Ah, a new addition… How much time did the Hamas have to slaughter a large number of Israeli civilians while they were multi-tasking baking babies in the oven, decapitating 40 babies, raping women, giving them mastectomies and raping men too?
Sean Penn and Angelina Jolie will make a movie based on this.
Israeli paranoia grows just when the flight of most Israeli psychiatrists to the UK severely debilitated the Israeli mental health resources:
“Israelis hear drilling, feel shaking amid West Bank terror tunnel fears
“I felt like there was an earthquake far off, like the bed I was lying on was moving and sailing,” said Baruch Ben Neria, a resident who reported his experience to the authorities.
Residents of Kochav Yair-Tzur Yigal, a town of about 9,000 in Israel’s Sharon region, have told authorities in recent weeks that they feel “shaking and drilling and excavation noises” in their homes at night. “I felt like there was an earthquake far off like the bed I was lying on was moving and sailing,” said Baruch Ben Neria, a resident who reported his experience to the authorities. “I’m not making it up,” he said. “I’ve been feeling this for the last two years, and sometimes it lasts for minutes in the middle of the night. There’s quiet outside, and then suddenly, it happens.”
Although the tests carried out in Bat Hefer found no signs of tunnels, residents from the locality are still worried.
“The IDF is taking a serious look and listening to residents’ reports,” the IDF said. “The security forces conducted scans…that did not produce findings at this time, and the issue is under continuous monitoring.”
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I am not a psychiatrist but could these experiences be an expression of their subconscious realization that the ground is shifting under their feet and a big quake is coming?
We’re falling apart here in the US – literally – but my fellow American idiots still think we should control a vast empire and vanquish Iran, China, and Russia. Comically and tragically delusional.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/01/boeings-737-max-is-still-a-mess.html
Boeing is a wreck. Hopefully, it dies quickly.
Hey, St. Jimmy. Was thinking the same thing about Boeing today — and how Russian jet airliners probably now surpass them in quality and durability.
American Liberalism has truly gutted America’s once mighty industrial base. Between the Marxist unions … the regulators … minimum wage laws… the attack on private property rights… government inflation to pay its socialist debts ( in exchange, of course, for the parasite vote)… Capitalism had no choice but to pack its bags and take the slow boat to China.
And because we now have no industrial manufacturing base, America is no longer the great innovator it once was; and millions of able-bodied men are now living on the streets.
No meaningful jobs.
And if that wasn’t enough, the Marxist dogs and the RINO slobs want to plug us all in to the Green New Deal — the final stake in the Republic’s heart.
If “America” isn’t a prime example of a dysfunctional and dying nation, I don’t know what is.
The brave and intrepid Patriots who attacked the English Hessian mercenaries in late December, 1776, under the most brutal and trying of weather conditions, would be shocked to see how depraved, malleable, and dependent our general population has become.
Had they a crystal ball, to spy out what the American population would eventually become, they never would have signed on to an additional six weeks of soldering when the great George Washington asked his men as a favor both to himself and the future of their country.
They all did, and it’s been estimated that half of these brave men were killed during the hard fighting during the following two months.
Liberalism is the soul-damning boll weevil that destroys individuals … families… and … in the process of time… entire nations.
America’s political elites — its Marxist politicians — and its soft-on-crime, pro-infanticide, pro-sodomite, so-called “judges”, have a lot to answer for.
And some day they will, when they stand before the Chief Justice of the Universe — the Lord Jesus Christ (see John 5:22):
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matthew 25:41).
“The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God” (Psalm 9:17, King James Version).
Regarding McMorrow:
Here’s McMorrow’s God straight from the KJV Bible: Joshua 6:17-27
17 And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
18 And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it.
19 But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.
20 So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
22 But Joshua had said unto the two men that had spied out the country, Go into the harlot’s house, and bring out thence the woman, and all that she hath, as ye sware unto her.
23 And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel.
24 And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.
25 And Joshua saved Rahab the harlot alive, and her father’s household, and all that she had; and she dwelleth in Israel even unto this day; because she hid the messengers, which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.
26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the man before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall lay the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he set up the gates of it.
27 So the LORD was with Joshua; and his fame was noised throughout all the country.
To Scott Ritter:
It’s a first for me to hear an ex-US intelligence officer
speaking to the armed forces of a hostile US power.
This cannot be done unprepared and unthinkingly.
Other?
Col MacGregor made an interesting comment on his recent Judge Nap interview : that it’s time for soldiers to turn their guns around.
Humpty-Dumpty is not going back together.
“This cannot be done unprepared and unthinkingly.”
Of course it can. Ritter managed to be caugth by an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl, twice. How’s that for unprepared and unthinkingly?
None of this would be happening to the extent it now is if political bribe-takers on both sides of the Washington D.C. aisle simply refused to send money and arms to other countries. (Especially the supposed champions of “Limited Government” — the Republicans, who have little to no clue what that designation and trademark is supposed to mean. Shame on all of them for the more blood on their hands, as if Ukraine wasn’t enough.)
Aside from influence peddling and bribe-taking, there is the additional sin of idolatry.
American politicians continue to make an idol of wokism and “Democracy” – false statist gods that cause massive death and destruction and ultimately send men down into Hell.
American politicians today now make the same mistake that the wicked Pharisees did in Christ’s day. When the Roman guards went back to the Pharisees (money and power-hungry ecclesiastical politicians all) to inform them that Christ the Son of God had indeed risen from the dead, what did they do? They paid the guards off with “hush money” (See Matthew 28:11-15).
Yes, their desire to hold onto money and power at the expense of Truth DID pay off for them in the short run. They held onto their money and power for forty years before the Roman legions came to lay siege to Jerusalem, raze its temple, killing nearly all its occupants, and enslaving the remaining survivors – just as Christ the Son of God (Mark 1:1) predicted would happen.
But now those same Pharisees are all down in Hell.
It’s a hell of a thing to sell your soul for money and power, which is what most of the politicians in Washington, D.C., have done. After you’re out of office… and for the rest of your life… whenever you look in the mirror… deep down… you realize you were fundamentally a slimeball… and that you can’t undo the bad you have done.
(Though there is STILL hope for them, for Christ came into the world to save all manner of sinners – even bribe-taking… pro-sodomite… pro-baby-murdering… Marxist Socialist slimeball politicians. Yes, it’s never too late for any man to turn to Christ and have his sins blotted out by the precious blood of Christ — provided, of course, in the process of time, that he repents of his wicked statism.)
All champions of Freedom and Truth and Limited Government should read Davy Crockett’s “Not Yours to Give.” To read it, go to this link and go to the tab named “Review Archives.” Then, simply type in “Not Yours to Give.”
(This little story ought to be read by every school kid in the country, though the teachers’ unions would never allow it. They, too, have sold their souls to the false god of wokism, which is why all government schools must be abolished.)
Here’s the link:
https://www.trinityfoundation.org/archive.php?s=1
American political and financial elites are morally and intellectually bankrupt. You can’t change them. Their gods are money, power, fame, and sex. Only disaster and collapse can change them. Even those who understand ethics and morals won’t change because they are fully vested in or controlled by corporations and oligarchs whose fortunes depend on war, theft of resources, and oppression of the middle and working classes.
Saint Jimmy, I don’t think that even disaster and collapse will change them. They’ll just take their gold bars and families and head to backwoods areas and lands where they’ll likely be out of harm’s way, once they trigger the nukes — the almost inevitable result of their neocon, nation-building fantasies and policies.
yeah
Remember the Israeli drone base that was blown up by Iraqi millitants? You can clearly see the drones parked at the Pic airfield on google maps. It was a sitting duck and a very sloppy operation:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/icRGouwc6y8Vy6gk6
Today the Hezzies smothered the Meron Aerial Surveillance Base with 62 missiles. Meron is one of two principal Israeli bases, the other is in the south of Israel. The Hezzies say this is only “a preliminary response” to the Israeli assassination of “great leader Sheikh Saleh al-Arouri and his martyr brothers” in the southern Beirut suburb of Dahiyeh.
Video of Hezbollah strike on Meron:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR40clA2SJo
Meron Aerial Surveillance Base map location:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/izogqQiE6W1E1wg47
South Africa filed 84-page “application” with the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza.
Here is a good summary by John J. Mearsheimer:
https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/genocide-in-gaza
Thanks for that reference.
South Africa’s application to the ICJ is at
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf
I just finished reading the entire document. Without question, what is described in annotated detail is beyond any sense of common human decency. It’s amongst the most harrowing things I’ve ever read.
Horribly, Israel has become exactly what Yeshayahu Leibowitz warned his country against, turning its soldiers into “Judeo-Nazis.”
It’s disgusting beyond words.
The IDF come across as either Keystone Kops or the Klan. Perhaps a marriage of the two.
Rules of Engagement are issued to soldiers on Cards
If Israel does not use NATO MC-362-1 it could use San Remo Handbook of International Rules of Engagement
Imagine what it would be like to be born into a hypothetical world in which every single thing that you are taught, hear or read is a lie; and, to “fit in”, you know that everything that you teach, say or write must also be a lie. What profession would you strive to succeed at to not only “get ahead”, but to reach the “highest” pinnacle of power?
(Hey, wait a minute!…..)
‘Fire discipline’ is basic to combat infantry. These ‘spoiled-child soldiers’ will die like flies when they come up against Hisbollah; 2006 on steroids!
Nasrallah has to be careful, Israel really wants to get US boots on the ground, against Hisbollah. Well, at least air strikes! I saw pictures of last night’s strikes on Israeli positions by Hisbollah, they’ve probably increased damage by 5-10%; boiling the frog.
The other big problem is Israeli nukes. Every Arab capital (& more) is undoubtedly targeted. A lot of the missiles are in subs, so can’t be hit. Israel gives you something to remember!
Flavours of Jewishness: The first Israelis were Ashkenazi, from E europe, secular Jews. Orthodox Jews were always there, they are pacific & support Palestine! Mithradic Jews come from surrounding Arab countries. The Ashkenazi treated them like ‘niggers’. They are still angry. Two million of the Russian emigrants aren’t Jews. But apparently they are security hardheads. Since 1967, increasing numbers of ‘settlers’, have come to Israel, mostly from the USA. They are ethno fascists. The settler’s children are now in in the junior officer ranks of the army. The command level of the army is still Ashkenazi.
Recent polling in the West Bank reveals Abbas has next to no support. That and additional critical info can be read here, “Palestine Update: Crooke & Sharmine Narwani” https://karlof1.substack.com/p/palestine-update-crooke-and-sharmine