A University of California, Davis study found ‘alienation,’ ‘mistrust,’ and a growing tendency to turn to violence in their recently conducted survey across the country. More than two-thirds of respondents said they saw a ‘serious threat to our democracy,’ and 50.1 percent agreed with the statement that ‘in the next few years, there will be civil war in the U.S.’ The neo-Marxist Southern Poverty Law Center research found that 44 percent of Americans believed the U.S. was headed toward civil war. Let’s dive into a prophetic novel about a possible Civil War 2 published three decades ago.
Author Thomas W. Chittum of ‘Civil War Two The Coming Breakup of America’, (Amazon 4.4 star rating) published the book based on his experiences as a mercenary in the multiethnic bloody civil wars in Rhodesia and Croatia. His up close and personal experiences shaped his belief of a coming second American Civil War. Chittum postulated that 20th-century cultural Marxism would be the driving force. By the way, the American historians got it wrong, calling it the Civil War; it was a war of secession. Many of the book’s eye-opening thirty-six-point checklists have come to pass or fulfilled to a degree.
“To understand the future, study the past. Throughout world history, all multiethnic empires have broken up, and almost always in cataclysmic violence. Therefore, the question is not if the multiethnic American Empire will shatter, but when and under what circumstances.”
Chittum’s hypothesis is the Trojan horse of ethnic and racial diversity, promoted by politicians, “diversity is our strength,” will explode into raging ethnic warfare. It doesn’t seem too farfetched, given the violent BLM and Antifa riots, unchecked crime, senseless violence, and millions of barbaric young military-age males crossing the open border.
Chittum, however, failed to foresee millions of Islamic migrants, many of whom prefer Sharia Law to the US Constitution. Those diasporas are a potential powder keg, and the Middle East conflict might inspire domestic Islamic terror attacks.
Here is a selected sample of the author’s predictions:
Item 3: The abolition of the right to bear arms. Democratic-controlled cities like dystopian Philadelphia and Baltimore have the strictest gun laws to deter gun ownership. It’s no surprise those cities suffer from the highest murder and crime rates. Defunding the police and promoting social justice compounds the violence.
Item 4: Watch for racially split juries. Progressives promoting social justice encourage jury nullification to fight “unfair and racist laws.” Jury acquittals can’t be overturned. The most infamous example was the black solidarity jury acquitting NFL star O.J. Simpson of murder.
Item 7: Watch for Washington D.C. to increasingly resemble the capital of some banana republic under siege by revolutionaries and mobs. Mob mentality went nationwide with the violent riots over George Floyd’s death, with the upward trajectory continuing last week with the massive anti-Israel demonstrations at the White House and Joe Biden’s Delaware home.
Item 9: Watch for further replacement of individual rights by group rights, group rights based on ethnic group. The latest brainwashing is the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion dogma, a Maoist struggle session, which incentivizes the formation of employee hierarchal groups around sex, race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation at the expense of the qualified.
Item 11: Watch for real political power to shift from our elected officials to the courts, and thus away from the American people. Colloquial, known as lawfare (government harassment), is now used by the Democrats to smear, financially destroy the opposition, and deny an individual’s legal rights.
Item 12: Watch for more instances of real political power flowing from American institutions to international bodies, thus again flowing away from American citizens. Usurper Joe Biden uses the World Economic Forum’s blueprint and motto, “Build Back Better,” as his administration’s North Star, meaning American last.
Item 17: Watch for a so-called slave tax refund or some similar vehicle that will automatically subsidize all blacks for life. The state of California, a non-slave state, has a reparations task force, which has recommended $1.2 million in restitution to each black. New York state, not to be outwoked by California, passed a reparations commission bill awaiting the governor’s signature.
Item 24: Watch for more restrictions on freedom of speech by the government and the establishment media. One of many egregious cases is Elon Musk’s recently released “Twitter Files,” documenting the FBI working with Twitter (now known as X) shadow banning and blocking conservative opinion. Twitter concealed Hunter Biden’s lost laptop controversy at the FBI’s insistence, suppressing reporting about the Biden family’s pay-for-play schemes.
The Biden administration is demanding that @elonmusk explain why he allowed journalists access to the Twitter Files. This is an outrageous attack on the First Amendment.https://t.co/j900uoqg0w
— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) March 7, 2023
Item 29: Watch for growing geographic segregation and its increasing mention in the establishment press. The news covers progressive states like New York, Illinois, and California, with the population escaping to conservative, tax-friendly states like Texas and Florida.
Civil War can be purchased through Amazon or a PDF floating on the internet.
Bob Bishop is a forensic investigator and a retired CPA.
Editing note: “… war of secession,” not “… war of session.”
In 1860, the States still had significant and independent military power. Many of the units fighting the war were state militias. Those militias no longer exist. They have been absorbed into the National Guard.
So an 1860’s style civil war, with opposing armies marching across the land, is not possible. Rather the violence would be at the scale of guerrilla warfare, with ambushes, assassinations, road-side bombs, etc.
That kind of warfare can go on a very long time without resolution. Our war in Somalia, our longest war, is entering its fourth decade. We are now fighting Aidid’s grandchildren. Afghanistan is another example of the kind of war that is likely, and it shows how regular forces can be defeated.
The focus on existing racial and political divisions in the current US population is a distraction and a mistake. With 2 million illegals entering the US every year, a large majority of which are military age men, there will be plenty of cannon fodder for an anti-US government uprising. And these immigrants, Hispanics, Muslims, Hindus, Africans, have no connection to American history, and are not interested in our concerns. If widespread violence does break out, American blacks, Jews, and white Christians are likely to be surprised at how the fracture lines between different population develop.
Civil War 2.0 will look more like Lebanon than the War of Northern Agression. The only saving grace is that the so-called “Right” dominate the vast majority of the USA’s counties and are sufficiently armed to keep the “Left” pinned down in America’s cities where they will be starved. The USA’s armed forces, literally spread to the winds elsewhere in the world, will be useless, and the majority of the National Guard and local law enforcement will choose to go Red, where most of them live.
This would likely explain the urge to get millions of military-aged migrants — people who will not hesitate to kill heritage Americans — into the country with all haste.
That is exactly why they are bringing the illegals in. They are playing a long game that they intend to end with their complete control over everything and our subjugation. This is why people like Doug Casey and Simon Black have been advising people for years to get out while you can or at least have a Plan B.
That’s why our Governors put them on busses and send them to NYC. They can pillage the banksters all they want, so long as they stay out of fly-over country. And if they come knockin’
Mon Dieu et Mon Droit
Don’t believe civil war will last long. In 1860 the majority of americans, north and south lived in small rural communities or on farms. these people were existentially independent of government. food, water, energy, clothing, transportation were produced locally or individually. the war had little impact on the civilian population, hence Lee’s invasion of the north and Sherman’s campaign through the deep south; both intended to inflict pain on civilians. Today, no US city can survive a trucking/rail industry shutdown of more than 30 days. the left/elites/woke crowd are located predominantly on the coasts with a few enclaves in the middle. The military will stay out because, 1) naval and air forces are worthless in this kind of conflict, and 2) ground forces are are tied to bases with their families, e.g. how long would the wives and children on Ft hood survive should the Army deploy and Texas turns off all support to families. Our bases are just as dependent on the gov services as our communities. The map of the last election shows the split. Bright blue dots in a sea of red. Each of those bright blue dots can be strangled to death in a short period of time and there is absolutely no way that 300,000 ground combat forces can pacify 300 million. As to the Muslems. These young men come largely from societies that disarm the genral population. Well, welcome to a country where 150 million mostly white “christian” men/women are armed to the teeth and held back only by respect for law that is rapidly diminishing.
The Sharia Law bit is a bit of a dog whistle. The fraction of Muslims in favour is small.
The group rights thing is a huge huge problem though (item 9). Membership in such groups becomes very problematic and legally almost impossible to define.
Yes, I also thought that the Sharia things was a bit far fetched. Made me stop reading any further.
The US is currently struggling with fascism. A handful of capitalists have taken over and are using state-sanctioned force to broaden their control.
Much of the rest of America is confused, ignorant, and atomised, fighting over trivial Coke-Pepsi issues while they lose constitutional rights and become poor and unhealthy.
Exactly. All the things listed are symptoms, not causes, of American imperial decline. All empires are broken up eventually, because they are impositions on popular will. The fractures often occur on ethnic lines, but ethnicity is not the driving factor. Oppression and exploitation are the causes, and the obsession with ethnicity arises out of the convenience these categories provide for dividing and conquering the people.
The fundamental divisions in the US are class divisions. Whatever color you are, whatever your religion, however recently you have arrived, if you’re not a billionaire and you’re defending billionaire rights, let alone seeking them out as leaders, you’re fighting against yourself in the real war.
I agree with your comments entirely
Here it is; empires are oligarchies, and oligarchies degenerate into kleptocracies run by a kakestocracy. The rule by the least fit was reached with the empowerment of neocons across the five eyes. The lurid obsession for power, damn the economic base, and just print while confiscating wealth of allies and competitors is the death knell. Now we see that there is no honour among thieves. Unhinged elites like Icarus have melted the glue of social cohesion… D.C is full of Greco-Roman symbolism. Now is the card, 13th trump.
Have you been to Minnesota lately?
Play around with the different population groups and densities on the following site and compare them with the division-of-the-U.S. map in Chittum’s book.
http://www.justicemap.org
[Ethnic/religious] cleansing all comes down to percentage of population.
Muslims in general are small portions of overall population in most areas except for, as noted above, Minnesota. That said, Minnesota is essentially a large but land-locked “enclave” as per Chittum. When things get hairy, it will either be able to defend itself and go independent or it will get wiped out.
You get what you can take; you deserve what you can keep.
Hey, I might be totally wrong on this but try hard as I can I just don’t see Muslims going for an independent Islamic state in Minnesota.
I get that they don’t want their kids twerking or switching genders, and wanting to believe in the Ten Commandments and God the Creator and the prophets of the Quran and Bible.
Beyond that, Muslims are neither known to be land thieves nor settler colonials.
Tell that to Charles Martell. Moslems invaded Europe until they met Charles. You’re wearing a paper hat.
” try hard as I can I just don’t see Muslims going for an independent Islamic state in Minnesota”
Then they’re going to get wiped out, because when things go hot, it’s going to be one or the other. Assuming IMO the most likely Balken-esque situation, the U.S. northern half re: Chittum’s map is going to reform into a new American nation or nations, and there is no way they will allow a Sharia state to exist right next door on former American soil. And make no mistake, even with current population ratios and politics, the move toward a Sharia state is already well in progress.
Yes, they are. Your assertion is completely incorrect. Our civilizational realm was called ‘Christendom’ before it was ever called ‘Europe’ or ‘The West’. It encompassed the entire Mediterranean basin. The lands that Muslim peoples occupy are a mixture of those who were conquered and forcibly converted (Egypt is an example, although they still have an oft-persecuted minority (~10%) of Christians who refused to submit) and those who were ethnically cleansed of Christians through expulsion and extermination (Turkey is an example). It’s not an accident that Greece maintains an army anomalously large with respect to it population base. It’s not because they ever feared Soviet attack.
The advances in practical metallurgy that were the pre-cursors to the scientific and industrial revolutions were largely driven by the necessity to fend off unceasing Muslim attack. Our ancestors had to ‘get good’ or die. Muslims always had numerical superiority because of their subjugation of women. That our ancestors were their cognitive and organizational superiors is the only reason contemporary Europeans exist. I unreservedly recommend Raymond Ibrahim’s “Sword and Scimitar” to anyone interested in highly readable (not academese) broad-brushstrokes account of the this particular clash of civilizations.
It’s not just Christendom, either. It is everyone non-Islamic. They divide the world into the lands ruled by Islam called the Dar al Islam (House of the Peace of Submission) and the lands not ruled by Islam called the Dar al Harb (House of War). This is a permanent war. Indians know. Chinese know. It’s intensity waxes and wanes on time scales longer than a human lifetime, so the simple people don’t see the larger pattern. I mostly certainly include our degenerate merchant and grifter ruling class in the ‘simple people’ category. They know a lot about money and how to acquire it, but they know nothing about civilizational governance and maintenance.
Islam is like Judeo-Puritan progressivism: it is a fundamentally expansionist pattern that will grow with gentle persuasion if it can, but always resorts to violence when told ‘no’. It’s why war in former America is inevitable. The globalists and their proggy handxirl’s are never going to take ‘no’ for an answer and they will hurt us until they getting tired of hearing it, and then they will take it to the next level. I assess Goldman’s recent public call for assassinating President Trump to be a sign that, in their heads, some at least are girding themselves for a Final Solution to their Heritage American Problem.
Why is anyone surprised that a multicultural society would break up into warring factions? The history is clear with Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Ukraine being a few recent examples. Thus, one must question the wisdom and rational behind mass migration.
We know one group that has constantly pushed for and funded efforts for mass immigration in the West.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AIXMBjfV7W4k/
https://youtu.be/zcoCNhU0bnI?si=f4gSV_f2gVxB7IRN
This group is scared of a white homogeneous society where they will stick out. Especially given their wide spread success both by legitimate and non-legimate means. Thus, they seek to import other groups to cause social friction They can then push the racist meme using other groups and travel under the radar. But is their comfort worth the destruction of Western societies? Fortunately, the blatant use of Jewish power to squash the decent against Israel’s war crimes is showing more people the tremendous power this group has in controlling the government and institutions in the USSA. Heck even Elon Musk is stepping up and pointing the finger at Jewish power.
decent –>> dessent, dooh!!!
decent ->> dessent ->> dissent, dooh!!!
DOOH!
Who benefits from division? Who has inordinate control of Media and Messaging?
Who has outsize claims to money and control?
Who laughs with derision as they fly over, “fly over” country – once the source, the engine of American Power- Industry, not Finance.
The Imposter, the CityState of Washington DC, dictating terms to the American People, propped up by dirty money, much skimmed from American Taxpayers, not the least by ginning up wars where few benefit, many lose everything, including their lives and families.
Who?
“This group is scared of a white homogeneous society where they will stick out. Especially given their wide spread success both by legitimate and non-legimate means. Thus, they seek to import other groups to cause social friction They can then push the racist meme using other groups and travel under the radar.”
Somehow this glaring elephant in the room (imagine an elephant whose stare is as deadly as Medusa’s) escaped Bob Bishop entirely.
Thank you, Alex.
I have been pointing to this elephant for years and not just talking about it but presenting the evidence to back it up. What do I most often hear? …crickets. Including on sites like Unz Review, save for a few people. And to the 2 guys who earlier in this thread said the Islam thing is some sort of red herring, they ain’t payin attention. Jewish Family Services, HIAS and IsraAid have all 3 been helping to flood both Europe and the US with men from countries like Syria and Libya. There have been numerous articles written by Rabbis saying “Islamization is a good thing for Europe” etc and so on.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html
https://www.bitchute.com/video/DZTcFRGDp2R0/
I find it hard to believe you hear crickets over on Unz. The focus there is often on Jewish power.
@alex: I fully agree with you
Just listen to Barbara
All this is Long Time planned
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24&pp=ygUQYmFyYmFyYSBzcGVjdHJlIA%3D%3D
Aren’t there any statues of Coudenhove-Kalergi anywhere? And of Lerner Specter if she has croaked by now?
Just today Garland Nixon was pointing out that Obama wasn’t stupid.
Well, busting up Libya and bayoneting Quadafi up his rectum and murdering him has proven to be very fucking stupid!
Europe will never be the same.
Maybe that was the Neocon plan all along?
Of course it IS the plan. They HATE Europeans and want us to hate ourselves too. In their minds, we are Unter-Mensch, fit only for enslavement or extermination. But every once in a while, their plans are foiled, as in Iberia during the 15th and 16th centuries. If one could still trust the RCC, I’d say bring on the Inquisition.(Bergoglio is an heretical piece of shit)
Russia is a multi ethnic, religious society. What say you to that? Will Russia splinter?
Let’s get up to 40,000 feet. The EU and the British Empire are seeing their capital flee to America where it gets 5% and is safe from the crazy WEF and the stupid Greens.
So how can you make capital think twice before leaving crazy Europe? Make America look crazier and heading towards the instability of a civil war. The fifth column of Euro vandals is working overtime across both Parties. Don’t fall for their ploy. The biggest mistake Americans can do is take the racial bait and fight each other.
Can someone point me towards a copy of Sharia Law. I would like to read it. It doesn’t exist. You must read a contextual explanation of the Quran to know what Sharia is.
Sharia, instructs Muslims to adhere and respect the rules of the country they live in regardless of what religion the country practices. If they have promissed allegiance to a country, they can never wage war on their country, just because they are Muslims.
If you consider the Muslims your enemy, shouldn’t you study and know your enemy.
When the Muslims along with the Christians stood up to sodomy and pedophilia, was that so bad of the Muslims and their Sharia or Way. When Muslim and Christian stood up to the Israeli genocide of Gazans and led to exposing the complete grip of Zionism has on our elected officials and MSM, was that so bad.
Did any American Muslims have anything to do with 911 except to continuously apologize for it? Who led the propaganda against Islam and Muslims for 20 years after 911? Zionist Jews and Zionist Christians?
The American Soul has been polluted for 7 decades with Islamophobia just because the Palestinians are mostly Muslims. And what other propaganda has been poured into the American Soul to destroy it by corporations controlled by Zionist Blackrock, Vanguard and the rest? Sodomy, pornography, infedility, usury, alcoholism, racism, alienation of family and egotism, all of which Sharia forbids. Does Sharia forbid these things because it is anti personal freedom or because it is against businesses that benefit from the destruction of men, women and societies?
Redacted had a piece on a large study finding. It finds that the only common factor in ALL mass shootings was that the shooter had either started taking or coming off Antidepressants during the first two week period. Yet the only time we know the shooter’s religion, is when he was a Muslim. Young Muslims get depressed too.
The Zionist controlled media never once showed it cared about America, not when they sent us to Iraq and not when they hope to start a new Civil war.
As for the author of the book, I copied from Wikipedia:
Thomas W. Chittum is an American author, military analyst and former mercenary from New Jersey, now living in Washington state. He served in the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War. Chittum also fought in the Rhodesian War and the Croatian War of Independence as a mercenary.
… Chittum was a speaker at the First Annual Conference on Racial Separatism in 1998, which also featured Jared Taylor, Robert Brock, and Don Black. Those at the conference speculated about looming world and race wars. The now deceased Willis Carto suggested that the United States use funds that he said would otherwise go to Israel to re-settle African-Americans in Africa, and Brock stated that Carto’s plan would lead to Africa putting a man on the moon within three years. Brock also advanced the claim that both black and white nationalists needed to be racists in order to keep their identities intact.
I ask what is the mental condition of a man who’s daily bread was soaked in the blood of those who he chose to kill, for pure gain.
The good news is that the US Civil War, where a country splits into two organized and opposed armies is rare. It will not repeat itself. The US Army will not split in two armies. The National Guard of every State has been Federalized.
Fear porn is the only thing we shouldn’t allow in our souls.
Remember the Vandals.
@K.. talaat
Valid points, all.
Also, to
“Russia is a multi ethnic, religious society. What say you to that? Will Russia splinter?”
add the Byzantine empire, the longest lasting of all.
“Russia is a multi ethnic”. Yes, but it is constructed differently. Russian ethnics occur in unitary homogenous clusters. Western structure is more chaotic.
As a Muslim, I don’t hold any animosity against the Jews who practise their faith according to the Ten Commandments and the teachings in the Torah. Muslims and Jews coexisted for more than a millenium. But, I have total antipathy towards the Ashkenazi Jews who are non Semites and who profess their superiority against all goyems and who have a lust for total power and world domination. The Quran has in the chapter “The Cow” blessed the followers of Moses and Isaac (Jews) 3 times. But after they revolted against Jesus son of Mary (Issa ibn Marium), they were expelled from the Holy Land. The Quran also stated very clealy that in the End Times, they will be brought back to the Holy land from amongst the diaspora and if they spread hatred and bring about fasad (corruption), they will face the wrath of the Almighty. Jesus is amongst the most revered Messenger of GOD in Islam and without this acknowledgment, one is no longer a Muslim.
There’s another prescient novel about The Second American Civil War by William S. Lind written under the nom de plume Thomas Hobbes titled Victoria. It describes a 4th Generation civil war.
I’ll have to read this one since I see it coming. Maybe we will have a Second American Revolution instead.
Also there is this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints
I have the book. I could not finish reading it: too horrible and too realistic and plausible.
The only other book I had the same experience with was not a work of imagination. It was Arthur Butz’ The Hoax of the 20th Century. In that case it was because the overwhelming amount of technical documentation becomes superfluous after a while.
It is almost like reading a a huge amount of material, with charts and statistics, to demonstrate that little Red Riding Hood was not a. real person and there was no wolf.
Did you question the premise of any suggestions, once?
Whose suggestion?
The way you ask me (“once”) implies you know I have not, so your question is rhetorical.
ariadna… Let me word my question differently. When you used the word “plausible” to describe the book you couldn’t finish, was every point the book attempted to make, worthy of applause and had the appearance of truth, credible, believable, etc.? My point is when people predict so far into the future, they are usually correct twice a day, so please don’t worry.
@ K. Talaat 07:49
The book depicts a dystopia that is indeed plausible. The organized tsunami of refugees from Africa and parts of the ME, most of whom are young, single men, that has hit Western Europe has already changed those countries for the worse. See Sweden, France, etc, where “no go” zones exist now in their capitals and large cites.
There is nothing that warrants “applause,” and it is not far into the future. I repeat: look at Sweden.
Ariadna… Is there a possibility of a reverse of this trend from Africa into Europe? Will the European shrinking economies and the reduction of exploitation of these African countries help provide incentives and opportunities for Africans to return?
Well! Little Red Riding Hood is very real to my grandchildren!
And the wolf ate grandma and Red whole and Red’s father came just in time and killed the wolf with his ax and he pulled grandma and Red out with nary a scratch and within a few moments grandma was back in bed eating her cake and drinking her juice and was feeling much better!
Pffftt!
There doesn’t need to be a “civil war” unless the aim is to control everything. The first so-called civil war wasn’t to be that either but Lincoln wouldn’t have it. Likewise when states want to separate themselves from the cancerous “whole” they’re tarred and feathered with the usual statist bullshit about civil war. A simple “divorce” is labeled a conquest when the side that fears losing control wants to reassert dominance. Then it’s clear that it’s all about control.
Douglass Mackey isn’t going to prison for mocking Hillary Clinton. He’s going to prison for retweeting a meme that said Hillary supporters could text their vote. It’s a ridiculous charge for a “crime” like forwarding an email that says one party’s voters (the good ones) vote on Tuesday and the other party’s voters vote on Wednesday (one day late). One could make a case – however lame – that he could have dissuaded stupid Clinton voters from voting.
The test here would be to reverse the situation: would he be facing the same consequences if we replace Hillary with Trump in the meme?
He’s ACTUALLY going to prison to intimidate others from speaking or thinking anything unapproved and to quash the 1st Amendment.
Yep.
While I agree with much of the sentiment here, there is nothing Maoist about “the formation of employee hierarchal groups around sex, race, ethnicity, and sexual orientation at the expense of the qualified.” And it is incorrect to call the Southern Poverty Law Center neo-Marxist. Cultural Marxism has nothing to do with real Marxism. Marxism focuses on empowering the working class. It is ludicrous to call Biden and the Democrats Marxists. They abandoned the working class decades ago.
Agree. Labels hurled as a slur actually lessen Bob’s arguments – as they never are accurate, and attempt to cause the reader to ascribe group, incorrect motivations to actors.
As you note, neo-Marxist – whatever that is – I prefer woke-ist – have no interest in empowering workers or even being anti-capitalist (as if the US economy has any relation to market capitalism, or has had any in decades). Instead, they advocate identity politics as a tool for acquiring power.
You’re correct. When asked what his first task would be if he were made Minister of a state, Confucius said ‘the rectification of names.’ We can’t have meaningful communication if the meaning of our words is distorted. Which explains very well why corporate Democrats are called ‘Marxists,’ and why ‘mis-gendering’ is called ‘hate speech.’
Cultural Marxism, btw, is a creation of the CIA. They imported a group of bourgeois intellectuals after WWII and used them as counter-revolutionary mouthpieces.
“They imported a group of bourgeois intellectuals after WWII…”
“Cultural Marxism”, or Critical Race Theory is a product of the Frankfurt School, which established at the Univ. of Frankfurt in the early ’30s. Hitler them out in 1933. They stayed in Switzerland until finding themselves a spot at Columbia Univ. in 1935.
The CIA couldn’t have been involved in their case. That’s not to say that there may have been sympathetic groups that the CIA brought over after the war along with various useful Nazis and rocket scientists.
It’s becoming singularly unfunny to hear seemingly educated American commentators constantly refer to “cultural Marxism” whatever that is, and now “Maoism” and tout the utter stupidity that most Muslims prefer Sharia Law. It’s like they don’t like what’s going on, so they need to label it something they don’t like, even if the circumstance has nothing to do with the label. Mostly, it’s because their views of Communism, Marxism, Socialism, Maoism and Islam are superficial, convenience-based propaganda constructs, and not born of trying to study the subject or understanding it better. Same goes for Russia, Putin, Iran, you name it. I’m reading Bob’s work for the second time – it will be the last.
You must be new here. Bishop have been writing same ol’ shit for so long, that it has become a running joke. Everyting is the fault of Maoist, Marxists, and other commies. If you think I’m joking, check out previous articles.
Noted.
And he seems like a regular columnist here. Could it be because he can be counted on to raise the number of comments?
It’s one of the world’s mysteries.
https://sonar21.com/demolition-of-america-by-ideological-subversion/#comment-182030
Not sure why you think USA is unique.
Uk has been headed in direction of Civil War for 2 decades especially since the Cameron-Osborne Crew DELIBERATELY undermined the economic policy Alistair Darling set in train to revive the British economy after 2008………instead Osborne deliberately created Austerity in the hope of generating a pre-election boom at the appropriate time as per Geoffrey Howe 1979.
Germany is ripe for Civil War – not just GDR v BRD but North v South.
Only 3 German States fund the whole 16 State circus through Net Transfers
German is a language rarely heard – mainly Russian from Ukrainians who are the new leisured class……….and assorted asylum groups who telephone loudly in every train carriage or bus
Meanwhile food costs and energy costs are evident on grocery shelves where a diet of pasta and canned soups seems to fly off the shelves
The process of purification will start in the USA and will spread to Western Europe.
**** Item 11: Watch for real political power to shift from our elected officials to the courts, and thus away from the American people. ****
Is this author unaware that this has been an ongoing project by the far right for a very long time? And a successful one – the Top Court (SCOTUS) is now packed with a super-majority of corrupt and fanatical right-wing hacks. ^Has This Author Ever Objected To That Project?^
**** Ep. 38 The First Amendment is done. Douglass Mackey is about to go to prison for mocking Hillary Clinton on the internet. ****
I’d never heard of this “Douglass Mackey” so a search was necessary. The results indicate that there are two ways at viewing his case. The first is that he was a fun-loving goof-off who was tinkering with the 2016 election because he had nothing better to do. Imagine his surprise when the Monster Feds came down on him like a ton of bricks. Link #1: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-07-04/political-persecution-douglas-mackey
There is a second way of looking at this fellow:
**** As stated by the U.S. Department of Justice in October 2023, Mackey was sentenced “to seven months in prison and fined $15,000 for his role in a conspiracy to interfere with potential voters’ right to vote in the 2016 presidential election.” ****
Link #2: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/fact-check-is-doug-mackey-going-to-jail-for-mocking-hillary-clinton/ar-AA1jJ4nZ
This second viewpoint is about a fellow who was deliberately tinkering with the mechanisms of a national election. I can see an analogy to renting an abandoned shopping plaza, then placing many signs directing voters into the site for “voting”. They’d arrive to see lots of activity, and growing lines. They’d eventually leave happy to have done their Civic Duty. But of course they hadn’t actually voted.
Suppose I secretly switch some road signs and direct Emergency Room Patients to a distant place far away from the hospital. Or I disable the automatic lights and blocking gates at a train crossing.
If in all instances my vandalism was detected before anybody was harmed , is that a valid defense at my trial?
I don’t think so.
No matter, this author was flat-out dishonest with his quote about “mocking” Hillary Clinton. He demonstrated mindless rightwingnuttery by throwing in that Tucker Carlson BS.
Zack, I will bet if we get a lawfare lawyer to help us we can find tens of thousands of laws that could be applied to us dirt people that could not be applied to the cloud people.
As an example, which had more impact on the election; that meme or the well organized and coordinated effort to suppress the truth about the Hunter laptop? You will never see a single cloud person facing jail time for that!
And if you don’t recognize the deep state members of the Court for what they are you are not paying attention.
Wow. U R one scary dude:( I wish you would leave the country. Honestly. smh. U live in a weird ass bubble.
This comment is for Zack if it’s not clear.
you have a wonderful sense of humour! the comic relief is priceless. thanks for the laughs, Zatch.
Your time is coming soon, Zach.
There’s nothing you can do to stop it.
“the Top Court (SCOTUS) is now packed with a super-majority of corrupt and fanatical right-wing hacks.”
Bwahaahahaha breath hahahaha
Well, “the authorities” also told us we could just drop our ballots at a designated box at the library or where ever. But they forgot to tell us there would be no chain of custody when fools were going to those boxes and stuffing them with hundreds of ballots from God knows where (?).
Covid or no Covid. Dumb idea no matter which way you slice it.
Sounds like a riff on PHILLIP DRU ADMINISTRATOR by Col.(not a real one) House, confidant to Woodrow Wilson.
Decades ago Sociologists published papers outlining how multi-culturalism led to the ghettoization of society, and division. It’s been documented and accepted, ironically, by academia in the past. They know, and always knew, it does not and never did work. The idea is pushed because destruction of society is the goal to enable a totalitarian state.
The problem is whether they can maintain a controlled destruction and end up with anything resembling a society worth controlling in the end. What they are up to is like trying to break a piece of glass into specific shapes with a hammer. Just like a piece of glass, you can’t predict how things will break. And they are n the process of breaking. Even the Davos crowd needs a functioning system to control, and they are destroying the base they need to run everything. Not the smartest people, just blinded by their lust for power and they want it now, no patience to put a workable system together.
Maybe they think AI will do it for them. Good luck with that. As to DEI, I rearrange it to DIE, a more appropriate acronym.
Very apt the glass smashing metaphor.
Yes, they seem to think they will manage it all with AI, as that Israeli freak who is Schwab’s pet tells him
Look at the photo of Biden “Build Back Better” with Schwab. (Gag).
Then consider Trump removing the U.S. from Bill Gates’ W.H.O. then Biden’s first move was to get the U.S. back into the W.H.O.
And what is the W.H.O. cooking up for the world right now? A new “pandemic treaty” which will be consummated in May of 2024 and will give the W.H.O. the right to declare a pandemic emergency, mandate business closures, masking, school closures and MANDATED “vaccines” for everyone! Our sovereignty be damned!
And right now there is one Senator, Ron Johnson and two members of the House fighting this, Roy and Gibbs. We are doomed.
This is what is going down while we are focusing on this or that other thing.
And the W.H.O. did such a great job with Covid!
It might be better for America to split up. Much of the county is divided culturally anyway, California and Hawaii are no way like Alaska, the Northeast bears no resemblance to the Midwest, mountain and prairie people living far outside urban areas are completely different to their city slicker counterparts, etc., so the culture is being shredded anyway. Furthermore our leaders not only ignore us, but the openly rip us off and insult us.
They have lost the right to rule. And for that matter they don’t even know how to rule, all they can do is enforce their abusive and psychotic ideas with laws drawn up by equally abusive psychotic lawyers. In other words, we have ourselves a hive of official and severely incompetent power abusers at home and abroad. Who needs them.
The first thing is a return to state’s rights and take the power away from 500 violent DC morons and their hangers on like the odious scavengers Nuland, Kristol, Pompeo, etc.
The next thing is to do something about Pentagon fat cats, make them march, fight, and dig holes like all the other abused servicemen under them, and close all but about 10 or 15 bases, and just maybe the sleazy weapons designers and engineers will find something productive to do for a change.
After that there are the usual modern problems, education, safety, medicine, etc., but they have to be addressed all the time anyway.
Yeah, calling it a civil war seems misleading. Funny, when I think about it, why and who wants this country to stay together?
I like those two “civil war” books; will have to look into those. I got plenty of post-apocalyptic reads, they might have a different perspective.
A quiet decay – Kunsstler’s Long Emergency – would sure be better than a real out and out civil war. How long before we have warlords/communities able to stand up to DOJ/FBI?
Was the website of Church of the Creator, COTC, maintained by Thomas Chittum, formerly a professional mercenary fighting for the British empire in Rhodesia, the author of Civil War Two: The Coming Breakup of America, a book that promotes the destruction of the United States by racial and ethnic conflict along the lines of Yugoslavia? The website Creativity, formerly Church of Creativity has a well known history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity_(religion) . Now creativityalliance .
Note the logo, halo with crown. RaHoWa being the slogan – go figure.
Sure looks like a planned color USA revolution. The last time 680,000 Americans died.
Britain’s secession did not succeed because of Russia :
But Britain kept the secessionist Confedaracy Embassy open in Liverpool :
https://ldhi.library.cofc.edu/exhibits/show/liverpools-abercromby-square/abercromby-southern-club/embassy-confederacy
I’ve had this book for some years now. I used to subscribe to Tom’s You Tube channel a few years ago. Few knew he was on there so he didn’t have a lot of subscribers. His channel just suddenly disappeared one day so I assume he deleted it. Don’t know if he’s still around or even still alive at this point.
I have seldom seen such a racist and xenophobic screed. Well done Bob Bishop, Another reason not to trust the USA.
Just like Adolf said, muh democracy is the petri dish for world Marxism.
Mob Rule isn’t meant to last forever and the curse of Bolshevik Yankees has to be dealt with once and for all.
This article is correct… historically, multicultural societies are inherently unstable to survive for very long, and the US is no exception. America has no magic dirt that automatically changes the mindset of every third-world peon into that of a true-blue ‘merican. And paying sales tax on a bottle of Pepsi at the local 7-11 after sneaking across the border, does not automatically qualify you as a citizen.
Sophomoric civic nationalism has blinded everyone to the essential requirements for a cohesive nation, which the US certainly does not represent. It’s bamboozled the mindless masses to allow a racist-antiracist paradigm to metastasize and take over every aspect of society, that barely hangs together by means of an increasingly tyrannical state.
There is zero comprehension about the following: antiracism is a fake moral virtue. Equality is a fairytale, a monumental lie, and racial equality is fake morality. It mixes up two different things, character and skills. Only the first requires moral judgment. We have performance standards for the second. The two are wrongly conflated by the woke left, and by everyone they’ve brainwashed, including 99% of the country. It’s a ruse to make people feel perpetually guilty in order to control them. This deception won’t stop unless everyone wakes up and understands that performance standards aren’t racist. And the majority of some racial group’s inherent failure to meet them can’t be solved by forced integration, which produces dishonesty, false expectations, resentment, distrust, dependency, disorder, and revenge. Next comes “hate speech”, censorship, and thought control. Do any of those outcomes sound like morality?
Here’s a little test. How smart are you? Which one do you choose?
1) Nazis believe they can’t live together with other races, because Nazis are the superior race.
2) Woke leftists believe they must force all races to live together, because all races are blank-slate equal.
3) True nationalists believe that each ethnicity has subsidiarity, the right to govern itself in its own geopolitical nation, because each ethnicity has different innate strengths and weaknesses that are best handled in common by those who are born that way.
I choose the third option. I have a moral duty to respect anyone of good character. But that does NOT mean I have a moral responsibility to give them a degree and a job which they don’t merit, and invite their entire tribe into my neighborhood to try fixing their built-in weaknesses while they spit on my culture and trash my society.
Meanwhile, the stupid masses of Americans are bitter clingers to blank-slate equality and civic nationalism. They have only themselves to blame for allowing wokists to be their moral authority. The societal horrors this has engendered are exponentially ramping up. I’d give it about five more years until civil war fully breaks out. If any government or set of governments emerges from that chaos, they will finally learn one critical lesson: Segregation is the only moral solution.
There will be no civil war, which presupposes two adversaries with clearly defined ideological positions, living in delimited territories (e.g., North vs South or East vs West).
In the US there are multiple minority blocks, each with its own agenda, all spread out more or less in most states, and a tenuous majority, also spread out, with an inchoate sense of being aggrieved but uncertain whom to blame — the MIC? the corporations? the Democrats? the unknown millions of illegal immigrants, the Jews (all or only the elite? but not the Torah jews?).
So instead of a civil war there might be a closely monitored and selectively televised bloody mayhem that will need a Patriot Act II to restore democracy and a values-based order…
You want to quibble about semantics? How about this, “a civil war of all against all”. Does that clear things up?
I assume your last paragraph is intended to be ironic. If violence is closely monitored, then it’s closely controlled, meaning it’s not really grass-roots, instead it’s astroturf, kabuki theater, Roman Colosseum stuff, etc.
Otherwise, what emerges on the other side will definitely NOT be the same government, including any ability to enact legislation such as a Patriot Act II, III, IV,… XXX.
Democracy? Restored? That’s a good one, we don’t have democracy now, so (1) how could it be restored, and (2) who says it’s a good idea to even do so? Universal suffrage is obviously a ghastly mistake, too bad the Founders weren’t more strict in setting up their republic.
Values-based order… oh, you mean situation ethics of subjective feelings, instead of objective truth. If that’s the end result of a bloody civil war of all against all, then the whole thing wasn’t worth fighting over to begin with.
Whatever. With all due respect, next time you respond, please try to address the issues per se, instead of adding extraneous content.
Have a nice day, and all that.
“How about this, “a civil war of all against all”. Does that clear things up?”
Yes.
“I assume your last paragraph is intended to be ironic.”
Yes.
Assume more decidedly and don’t change your mind
I agree. What I think is likely, is more of a regional break up vs. a political one.
States and region’s declaring autonomy, and taking control of the local military bases, destroying centralized control…
[…] Zdroj […]
As the percentage of the population that pays enough taxes to fund a well-run government dwindles, human animalistic behavior becomes the everyday norm. I see it everywhere in the greater Los Angeles area – grime, filth, trash, decay, vagrants, vandalism, begging, wild looting, hatred and a generalized effu attitude on the road. The list goes on…
Sound like plenty of risible drivel in a book purporting to predict the future. One has to laugh at insular and parochial ex intelligence agents pointing out some Marxist conspiracy. You are far more likely to be killed or assaulted by the ” right wing” than you are by BLM or Antifa as the statistics show. I suspect Larry thinks the civil rights movement was a bad thing then again what does one expect from a relic right winger commentator.
Western culture is based on monotheistic religious faith: but I have not yet come across any monopolist tolerant of intellectual competition. It leads to the binary notion of “you are either with us, or against us”; or in these more modern times, “saved” or not. Or as the Mandalorian uttered, “I can bring you in cold or warm”. Hence the urge to “convert” unbelievers.
Civilization is about balancing the yin and the yang, and in these times we are again experiencing the fruits of intellectual monopolism. It’s happened before and it will happen again. It is the price we have to pay for the Western belief and worship of utopia, whether in the here and now, or the afterlife.
I suggest getting a copy of the small volume entitled “Mankind in Amnesia, by Immanual Velikovsky” for one explanation of humankind’s catastrophic past.
Good read, great discussion. Nevertheless the book presents an improbable scenario. Gradual decline and breakup is far more likely. For a major conflict to occur you’d have to have a strong vision and a counter vision. No such thing is on the horizon; uniparty anyone. When you factor in the demographics including age, ethnicity, religious affilation, income, that adds further cracks. You can keep adding to it regional differences, education, race, cultural background; the divisions grow further. Cultural shift is needed first. The good news is that when it happens it should be peaceful. Tell your neighbours “know thy self and beware of false prophets”. There is future in rural America; “try that in a small town”.
“By the way, the American historians got it wrong, calling it the Civil War; it was a war of secession.”
Good point. As with all wars, it was quite uncivil.
This reminds me of a skit SNL did back during the Carter days.
Dan Ackroyd as Jimmy Carter goes to a map of the U.S. and flips the curtain back detailing the North and the South. He picks up a sword and starts pointing to various areas saying, “First we will head this direction….then here and here…”.
Funny stuff.
Russian conspirologists long said US society would fell apart and slide back to internal war as soon as colonial rent would dry out
But 15 years ago it was almost impossible to believe, especially with US elites having then a lot of time and of money to navigate…
Amerika is a far right blog. They believe an study race/tribal/clan/tradition separation.
One more click right and your at the Aryan Nations and the dress up like Nazi storm troopers.
On occasion Brett Stevens has some pretty good observations on human behavior.
Not really anti Jew…more like… those folks are over there on their ground, we are over here on our ground… the same with race and other religion traditions.
Americka blog.. does not seem to over the line to the Tiki Torch protestor type. The blog knows all the Tiki Torch people…and probably reads the Daily Stormer and so forth. They are not with them..but they see the movement.
Anyway.. you can scroll around there… ed-u-ma-cate yourself.
https://www.amerika.org/
Larry, I still have great respect for you now that I see that this post is by someone else (alright, an invited guest, but lacks a decency I always detect in this man from Independence, MO; not that Truman was incapable of horrendous actions and corruption). I’m not smart or that well read, but this kind of view that attacks fairly liberal, democratic ideals as ‘Marxist’ and ‘Maoist’ gets it all wrong. The problem of civil strife in this and other Western capitalist countries is the rot of the system decaying, pitting its worst-off victims against those who are slowly becoming the same. The problem is not ‘cultural Marxism’, its that such liberal policies are used to substitute for radical revaluation of structures swallowing up the values people want to live just as it sucks up the wealth, and leaves too little (space or wealth) for the vast majority of the population to share and create the lives they might in a truer democracy.
I’m with Peon. This Bishop rant is pretty sad.
Any sort of civil war in America would be over very quickly. Stores would be picked clean, trucks and trains would be stopped and robbed and total chaos would ensue, followed by disease and mass starvation. People would want order restored and would accept just about anything to have it.
But this isn’t going to happen.
A more likely (if equally unpleasant) scenario is the war in the ME expanding and turning nuclear. All it will take is one wrong move (or an accident) and we’re looking at an “On the Beach” scenario.
https://www.amazon.com/Beach-Nevil-Shute/dp/0307473996
“A more likely (if equally unpleasant) scenario is the war in the ME expanding and turning nuclear.”
There is also the increasingly plausible scenario that Netanyahu will be given the same treatment Zelenski is about to receive: be declared the main culprit (“headstrong,” “did not take advice,” even corrupt).
He will be replaced with great fanfare, and a show of protracted “negotiations” will take place between Israel and PLO (no, not Hamas, perish the thought).
The eventual compromise may be that southern Gaza and the West Banks may be declared a provisional Palestinian state pending verified demilitarization. and de-Hamasization.
Northern Gaza is to be incorporated into Israel for security reasons (also closer to the gas).
For humanitarian reasons Israel will work closely and tirelessly with the US , Canada and the EU to facilitate the transfer there of as many Palestinians in dire need and suffering the sequelae of Hamas’ brutal oppression and violence. Those in the West Bank will also be included in the same generous relocation offer.
The new Israeli cabinet will decry the excesses of “Bibi” ‘s regime the same way Hrushchev criticized Stalin, but will stress that he had one thing right: Iran is Israel’s gravest existential threat.
The “war on Hamas” having cost Israel a lot (estimates will be given), the US will have to supplement the aid.
Biden and Netanyahu are close to getting a UN Security Council Resolution neither will like as the U.S. will be forced to abstain or have the entire world down its throat.
Oh, and Biden and Netanyahu will both be toast.
Can we at least asses this is a very narrowed point of view about civil wars ?
We have traces from such events since before the beginning of writing era and a worldwide experience of past intern conflicts … from the basic social protestation going wild to the external regime change going bad ; terms and conditions that may or may not applies are endless. It also neglect the possible countermeasures successfully used or not to prevent civil wars.
The author misses a truckload of possible cases, it looks like he had conclusions to reach into before writing… that didn’t make a very rigorous analysis in the end.
**** Amazon 4.4 star rating ****
At Amazon I always begin with the 1-Star ratings. I’d suggest doing the same if you go to the Bezos site for this book.
This book is available at the Internet Archive, and I’d definitely recommend looking at it there before laying out any cash. The first thing I noticed is that Mr. Chittum didn’t bother creating an index for his book. The second thing is that the book is 27 years old.
Lots of things have happened since 1996. The author is still alive, so why hasn’t he updated it?
Scrolling through the Archive copy showed me that Mr. Chittum isn’t a stupid man. On a “tactical” level his writing demonstrated more than a little shrewdness. Not unexpected, for his rank in the US Army was Private First Class, a place where there is lots of “hand’s on” things happening. He would have picked more of the “worm’s eye view” from the bottom during his time as a Mercenary in Croatia. For the most part the “small stuff” about tactics and weapons are slow to get outdated. Some of his “commonsense” insights were also readable. However, after his “year stockpile” of food was gone, he’d be in deep doo-doo like everyone else. It’s my opinion Chittum is a modern American in the sense that he ignores the issues of farming and “making things” in complicated factories. The energy and material inputs necessary for those things are assumed to ‘just happen’. Not in the real world. And most definitely not in a violently fragmented US of A.
On the Big Picture – Strategy – Chittum is hopeless. He just doesn’t realize that a Balkanized United States would be easy prey for any remaining industrialized Nation-State.
https://archive.org/details/civilwariicoming0000chit
The war is coming. Actually it is already here. Its a difficult thing but soon the violence will not be avoidable. It will be thrust upon us and by us I mean patriotic Americans.
We didn’t start it but I swear on my life we will finish it.
It will not be violent, as we have watched what Biden said was the biggest problem was “white supremacy”, but it was not.
We watched what looked like feds being arrested that “Lira Gonzalo” told us we’re only feds, in which the Biden administration was trying to generate a back lash over LGBT, but the old GOP never took the bait and did not care.
This administration has constantly misjudged the American people. And now, we see that so has Donald Trump, when he took the AIPAC money and did a complete turn around and started say exactly the same crap Biden is saying, as Trump turned against free speech and okayed the Israel Genocide, so his poll numbers will look very different than the supposed lead he had over Biden, which was taken before his comments about silencing students over Gaza, and allowing the Genocide to continue unabated because the money Trump received from AIPAC was a driving factor in Trump going from Hamas is very smart, to silencing Americans against the Palestinian Genocide against all Palestinian civilians.
“This administration has constantly misjudged the American people.”
Maybe not. Maybe you do when you predict that, “as Trump turned against free speech and okayed the Israel Genocide, so his poll numbers will look very different than the supposed lead he had over Biden.”
Let’s wait and see.
2024 will be year US citizens change our nation from money control to our control.
70% of Americans think like this right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtJVMCPiNo0&pp=ygUVY29ybmVsIHdlc3QgcGFsZXN0aW5l
Biden and Trump ain’t cutting it, because we’re done with politicians that put money before people.
“2024 will be year US citizens change our nation from money control to our control.”
How will that come about?
Too bad as an Independent he won’t be on most ballots. Same for the Zionist Kennedy. Should have stuck with the Green Party for ballot access.
But I support his words for the Palestinians.
As a Muslim, I don’t hold any animosity against the Jews who practise their faith according to the Ten Commandments and the teachings in the Torah. Muslims and Jews coexisted for more than a millenium. But, I have total antipathy towards the Ashkenazi Jews who are non Semites and who profess their superiority against all goyems and who have a lust for total power and world domination. The Quran has in the chapter “The Cow” blessed the followers of Moses and Isaac (Jews) 3 times. But after they revolted against Jesus son of Mary (Issa ibn Marium), they were expelled from the Holy Land. The Quran also stated very clealy that in the End Times, they will be brought back to the Holy land from amongst the diaspora and if they spread hatred and bring about fasad (corruption), they will face the wrath of the Almighty. Jesus is amongst the most revered Messenger of GOD in Islam and without this acknowledgment, one is no longer a Muslim.
“The state of California, a non-slave state, has a reparations task force, which has recommended $1.2 million in restitution to each black.”
Even more bizarre, it would be difficult to find a black in California today who had ancestors in that state during the Civil war. Then who is black? Obama is half white, so is he a wash, not to mention his black half is not from the USA. What about recent African immigrants?
What about the few American Indians native to California whose tribes were nearly wiped out by white settlers and the US Army? Should taxes they pay today go to blacks?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_genocide
This writer never fail to disappoint with his postulations of White Supremacy views!
How can any intelligent writer depend on the opinion of, and gleefully quote from a mercenary who, by definition, is a moral cripple?
Sorry, but the rest of us are also here to stay on Mother Earth.
So how is third-world Ghana treating you?
I notice, Bob, that you did not address the question, but attacked the questioner. That is perfectly in keeping with the tone of your article, and your tendency for projection and blame. I had the same question, a mercenary who murders his fellow human beings for money is presented by you as a prophet and an advisor for our times. Do you have a slur or insult for me as well? Better go check under your bed for Commies!
“White supremacy” ???
What are you smoking ? These words only confirm of how divided our country already has become. Don’t you see that the author actually CARES about his country and (presumbly) your country (both called USA) as well ?
We call our country the “United States of America” but your response (among others) only confirms my view that we’re no longer “United” but more and more becoming a “Divided States of America” with all the negative implications for ALL US citizens.
One of the speakers and lawmaker, whose name I can’t recall at the moment, while speaking at Trump’s IA conference, rightfully pointed out one of the most important things to ALWAYS remember. daily is that “whatever you hear Main Stream Media preaching about or berating DJT against, ALWAYS DO THE TOTAL OPPOSITE”.
Everyday we hear the media name-calling those who oppose an unlimited influx of foreigners into America! That’s the Number One item on their agenda to destroy our identity and sovereignty. Multi-culturalism may sound beautiful, but it is “poisonous”.
Been say’n for longer than I want to remember that all this political, social, economic break-down not gunna get resolved w/o ‘nutha “[not-so] civil v2.0 bloody ugly”. Chi-com blue-helmeted clean-up troops be damned! This drafted ‘Nam VFW sez . . . BRING IT. Sooner the better and return me “Home” cuz the Nation is totally screwed. Seen/experienced ‘nuf round the globe – cat that long-ago exceeded its nine lives.
I got to page 4 of Thomas Chittum’s Civil War II before I was halted by the infantile prose and the rather broad assumptions stated as though they were fact.
“Throughout world history, all multiethnic empires
have broken up, and almost always in cataclysmic violence.” Anyone care to back this one up?
Chittum reads like a rather dull, pedantic 10th grader with some kind of ethnic, racist or xenophobic axe to grind.
Skipped the rest! 😉
As for Bishop’s analysis, “His up close and personal experiences shaped his belief of a coming second American Civil War.” Lost me after “up close and personal”.
Also, “Mob mentality went nationwide with the violent riots over George Floyd’s death, with the upward trajectory continuing last week with the massive anti-Israel demonstrations at the White House and Joe Biden’s Delaware home.”
Yo Bob, can you explain exactly how peaceful anti-Israel protests represent an upward trajectory from BLM riots in which cities were on fire? Are you Ray Epps?
@Bob Bishop:
One thing that makes a civil war much more likely is growing wealth and income inequality. This inequality becoming larger also means that the likelyhood of unrest/”civil war” also increases (in a dramatic way).
Th civil war of 1863-1869 was also about a growing wealth inequality.
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion dogma, a Maoist struggle session, Cultural Marxism
I did not come here to get Outfoxed by someone who twerks to straw man “issues,” that tired song and “dance,” and sounds like a (more obvious than fake left such as MSDNC) shill for financialized corporatism like Rupert Murdoch and Steve Forbes’ & Associates political drive-by shooters.
Probably wants a war with China as much as MacGregor wants a war with Mexico.
Bob Bishop is on my shite list, too many red flags.
Allowing people in who hold no allegiance to the U S. Is the impetus for opening the border in the first place. They must destroy the U.S. in order to create a one word government. Sadly we are much further down the road to our ruin than many realize. We have hit the snooze button to many times and now we are late to the fight. May God help us.