Not a good look for the Pope. Yet the Pope is not an uneducated man, ignorant of history. Here he is meeting with the Jewish President of Ukraine, who is sporting a Nazi symbol on his sweatshirt. The Western spin is to claim that the political leaders of Ukraine are not embracing the Nazi past because Zelensky is a Jew and Jews hate Nazis. Right? Not necessarily.
Take note of the number, 969. It has been almost 1000 years since the split in Christianity that created the Eastern Orthodox Christian movement and the Roman Catholic Church. Western sources go to great lengths to promote the notion that this split between these two Christian churches is a minor squabble over theology. Wikipedia’s description is a prime example of this deception:
The Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church have been in a state of official schism from one another since the East–West Schism of 1054. This schism was caused by historical and language differences, and the ensuing theological differences between the Western and Eastern churches.
The main theological differences with the Catholic Church are the papal primacy[1][2][3] and the filioque clause.[1][2] In spirituality, the tenability of neo-Palamism‘s essence-energy distinction and of the experiential vision of God as attained in theoria and theosis are actively debated.
The real story is quite different. Within 200 years of the schism, Catholic Crusaders sacked Constantinople (now Istanbul), murdering Eastern Orthodox Christians and looting their churches:
In April 1204, Catholic Crusader armies captured and looted Constantinople, then the capital of the Byzantine Empire and seat of the Eastern Orthodox Church. After the city’s sacking, most of the Byzantine Empire’s territories were divided up among the Crusaders. The sack of Constantinople was a major turning point in medieval history. The Crusaders’ decision to attack the world’s largest Christian city was unprecedented and immediately controversial. Reports of Crusader looting and brutality scandalised and horrified the Orthodox world; the Byzantine Empire was left much poorer, smaller, and ultimately less able to defend itself against the Seljuk and Ottoman conquests that followed; the actions of the Crusaders thus directly accelerated the collapse of Christendom in the east, and in the long run helped facilitate the later Ottoman conquest.
So, here we are, 819 years later and the Pope is receiving Zelensky as an honored guest while Zelensky’s government has embarked on a broad based attack on the priests and bishops of the Orthodox community in Ukraine and their churches and monasteries.
Zelenskii the leader of the once Christian-Orthodox nation goes over to Vatican to bow down to the Pope and beg him for his support and world approval.
His visit to Vatican is probably the most insulting gesture he could have ever done to the people of Ukraine amid his unprecedented and murderous prosecution of the Orthodox Church.
The best part of it all is that Zelenskii wears a jumper with the Nazi WW2 OUN emblem (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists) throughout his visit to Italy just to rub it into everybody’s face as he demands for money.
Zelensky could have had the decency to wear a suit sporting the blue and yellow Ukrainian flag. But the little coke head has no decency. He is a money grubbing tool of genuinely evil people who is needlessly sacrificing the lives of more than 200,000 while he fills his own coffers with U.S. taxpayer dollars. The powers behind Zelensky, the ones who helped him win the Presidency as he promised falsley to end the civil war in the Donbass, are quite content to use Zelensky’s Jewish heritage as a smoke screen to convince Jews around the world that the little comedian is not in bed with neo-Nazis. But that is a big lie. Even NBC news concedes that there is a nasty Nazi undercurrent thriving in the Ukrainian Government and Military.
Zelensky, sadly is not the first Jew to collaborate with Nazis. Chaim Rumkowsky is an especially notorious, abhorrent example:
Chaim Mordechaj Rumkowski (February 27, 1877 – August 28, 1944) was the head of the Jewish Council of Elders in the Łódź Ghetto appointed by Nazi Germany during the German occupation of Poland.
Rumkowski accrued much power by transforming the ghetto into an industrial base manufacturing war supplies for the Wehrmacht in the mistaken belief that productivity was the key to Jewish survival beyond the Holocaust. The Germans liquidated the ghetto in 1944. All remaining prisoners were sent to death camps in the wake of military defeats on the Eastern Front.
As the head of the Judenrat, Rumkowski is remembered for his speech Give Me Your Children, delivered at a time when the Germans demanded his compliance with the deportation of 20,000 children to Chełmno extermination camp. In August 1944, Rumkowski and his family joined the last transport to Auschwitz,[1] and he was murdered there on August 28, 1944, by Jewish Sonderkommando inmates who beat him to death as revenge for his role in the Holocaust. This account of his final moments is confirmed by witness testimonies of the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials.[2][3]
Besides working closely with the Nais, Rumkowski is accused by survivors of that ghetto of sexually abusing young women who worked for him in the Judenrat. Remains to be seen if Zelensky meets with a similar fate. At least Zelensky is not being accused of molesting young girls and boys. That has been the modus operandi of the Catholic Church for more than a century. Worth mentioning that the Eastern Orthodox churches do not have a history of pedophilia and covering it up unlike their counterparts in Rome. This is probably a consequence of the Eastern Orthodox policy that allows priests to marry and have children.
The Pope’s silence on the religious persecution underway in Ukraine is another black mark on his tawdry legacy. Instead of calling Zelensky to account for his persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians, Pope Francis decided to play tour guide. A grotesque farce.
Maybe the Pope should read this link or maybe he agrees finaly?
In addition to the supremacy of the white race, Biletsky claimed to defend the West, to want the destruction of democracy in Europe, the destruction of capitalism and of the “Zionist international”, which would be replaced by “Nazocracy”, which are his own words. As a historian, Biletsky, in addition to the conspiracy theory that was very much a part of his rhetoric, was also committed to revisionism, rewriting the history of the Ukrainian people, whose roots, according to him, lay in the Scythian civilisation, which he linked to the Cossacks, in an attempt to erase the real origin of the Kiev Rus’. Going much further than the Nazis, he went so far as to declare that the latter had not taken into account the need to racially cleanse the population, including the Aryan population, in order to eradicate degenerate subjects, such as alcoholism, drug addiction and others. His idea was to take into account “the biological character of each family”. Going much further than American eugenics, he proposed the total and literal cleansing of the race, stating that the Ukrainian national culture was derived from the people, not from their history, religion, heritage, or language. He even declared that “the historical mission of the Ukrainian nation at this critical moment is to lead the white peoples of the world in the last crusade for its existence, and to fight against the sub-humanity led by the Semites”.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/05/they-are-propagandizing-for-nazis-but-wont-tell-you-that.html#comments
Reading about AI and the debates going on among some the world’s
elites. Melding machine and man(singularity) is called good by some of them-they talk about equalizing intelligence among the masses more then natural selection. They talk about taking the dumbest(sorry) continents up. They has it roots in global government which was a European ideal. Rome, Papacy, Nazis, the EU… Always about control but it is important to remember they believed they would make tbe planet a better place. F +++ers are dangerous.
I don’t believe most citizens(bad word) in the US, EU, Russia, China want to be telling the world what is beat for them..
It is the Soros, Zuckerbergs, Obamas,
Google, Wall Street who think they are heir to those sitting around the table at
The Last Supper.
Biletsky’s vision of an ideal society sounds awful.
Thank God we live in a degenerate, multi-cultural, immoral, collapsing empire full of pedophiles, transsexuals and mobs of angry, violent blacks.
The pope is a fraud and so is that little kvetching, shekel grubbing troll.
my opinion for what it is worth is that Zelensky and Pope Francis are both on the side of Satan to destroy humanity.
The talk of the Ukrainians as the vanguard of the new crusade by the West against Russia has been around for a while. The linkage between Ukrainian ultranationalism (yes, including World War 2 Nazis) and the Uniate Catholic Church in Western Ukraine is of long standing–think of Ustashe and the Croatian Catholic Church, to bring up the contemporary example, and, to be fair, the Uniate Catholics have been repressed by both Imperial Russia and Soviet Union for a long time (in a way that Roman Catholics, whose rituals look obviously different from the Orthodox–Uniates observe similar liturgy as the Orthodox, but they recognize papal authority). This meeting, especially with Zelensky sporting Nazi symbols, while his goons are repressing the Orthodox Church, won’t go well with those who know the history.
This is historically normal for Pope, and he surely is educated man.
The concept of “final solution” of “wrong races” was codified by Catholic Church some 800 years before Hitler.
Nice bit of calumny. I won’t ask for evidence.
“evidence is meaningless to a *true* believer.”
Pope Pius XII
People like you would ask for evidence of pedophilia while Pope was sucking your kid’s tongue right in front of you, Dalai Lama style.
Except for the papacy, the other theological differences do not function in the life or thought of ordinary believers. In fact, the filioque clause was first confirmed at the Council of Toledo (589) as a foil against the Arianism of the West Goths. It had been the subject of discussion for centuries by then, and was not considered a heresy in the East.
Only later did it become a kind of locus of difference.
But the classical differences are more like rationalizations than causes.
There are many differences in style, focus, mood, and philosophy, which have grown largely through distance and divergence, but the Church has always been able to encompass wide variety. None of them pose irreconcilable differences, except the papacy … which is about power & authority, and it is in the realm of hierarchical force and power [as well as the actual use of force] where the true incompatibilities and even enmity have arisen.
This is not the place to discuss the history of the Church (both Orthodox and Catholic); this is a noisy venue and most of the commenters only know what they have read, which is not much and not good.
That said, I appreciate your comment. Well said, sir.
‘… which is about power & authority …”
That’s the essence of it. Hegemony vs multipolarity.
Let’s not forget Hungarian Jew George Soros who, in a 1998 interview with Steve Croft on 60 Minutes, publicly admitted that he collaborated with the Nazis by informing on other Jews and then after their arrests stealing their possessions. He even compared what he did then to being like the operation of free markets at work – looking ahead and seizing the opportunities. Note how in this interview Soros admits to having no sense of guilt for those heinous crimes.
SHOCKING George Soros admits Nazi collaboration with no regrets
2min 28sec excerpt on YouTube
Refer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Id0-Lsyr0&ab_channel=CampConstitution
You can bet that Soros will be playing a very big role from behind the scenes in supporting the Ukraine Nazis as he continues unabated with his exploitations to make more obscene profits from the misery of the Ukraine and Russian people.
“A grotesque farce”
Indeed, but it could not be otherwise, since the Vatican is not indifferent to the outcome of Ukraine’s official persecution and robbery of the Canonical Orthodox Church in Ukraine. As Vladimir Prozorov has written, the Vatican expects significant gains from such onslaught against true Orthodoxy in Ukraine – and it will not be only treasure but also a large amount of souls of men.
Lest we forget, the Vatican served the German nazis and the Italian fascists well with her political assets – by enabling Hitler into power and then dissolving her Centrum Party, and by doing likewise in Italy with her Popular Party; and with her rat lines after the war.
It is highly commendable that Johnson does not shy away from addressing this touchy issue for Roman Catholics – although the Catholic faithful that love truth and justice above religious fakery don’t avoid confronting such reality (an honourable example of such honesty is Roman Catholic David Yallop and his excellent book, “In God’s Name”, on the murder of John Paul I and the hellish all-round corruption of religious Rome)
I’m not a fan of this pope or the Western policy in Ukraine/Russia, but these false histories don’t help.
If you’re going to talk about the Fourth Crusade, you need to mention the Massacre of the Latins, which preceded it, and probably contributed to the Venetians wanting some payback (which is also not right).
Not mentioning the many times Orthodox and/or Russians have done horrible things to their Western Christian neighbors (both Catholic and Protestant) is one reason it is difficult to convince ordinary Poles, Balts, and Finns not to support the Western policy right now. There are no innocents here, and the Orthodox have much innocent Western Christian blood on their hands (just as there have been Western Christian crimes against the Orthodox).
I don’t support what the West is doing in Ukraine, and I have great admiration for Russians and for the Orthodox Church. But the anti-Catholic history that is repeated many times is false and does not help.
You surely does not sound like a Catholic living in denial.
The man shows the jesuitical trade-mark, a side-ways dissembling masquerading as an attempt at objectivity, at impartiality.
The Bible has an expression of God’s disgust, “neither hot nor cold; lukewarm”, which He spews out of His mouth.
This fellows mealy- mouthed innuendos and outright falsehoods about Orthodoxy and foolish denial of Roman Catholic murderous history against one and all of her dissenters, be they Orthodoxy or Protestantism, is the perennial poisoned diet they serve the world, Catholic and non- Catholic alike.
I 100% agree with your views on this Wikipedia BS on the Catholic Church. Like all institutions, there have been good Popes and terrible popes. The Catholic Church has never had a monopoly on sexual abuse. Rabbis and Ministers have been up to their ears in pederasty and abuse. The Jews have a major role in all Western media and so they downplay the many Rabbis and other Jews caught abusing children and women. The current governor of PA and the former DA in Philadelphia, Lynn Abrams on two different occasions published in the media the photos and names of over 300 Priests. Of the 300, 299 were found innocent but there was no retraction and the innocent priests had no recourse to restore their reputations. This is not a forum where these topics can be discussed with fairness beyond screaming headlines.
Since they are both globalists and post-modern neo-marxists, the two got along just fine.
Speaking of Jewish Nazi-collaborators, George Soros at the age of 14… etc.
Is the Pope a Catholic?
It used to be a rhetorical question used as a statement of the obviously true. For many, it is now a question warranting an actual answer. Theology was the excuse for a schism between the Eastern and Western churches. The real reason was always about preserving the power of Rome following the split of the Roman Empire.
The popes have often done business with shady characters throughout history, and some have been very shady characters themselves. Pope Francis meeting a modern-day leader of a Fascist regime is merely keeping up the long traditions of his office.
Pope is the Godfather of the real Mafia. The Catholic Church thing is there as the front.
The Catholic church is rotten. The stupid celibacy mandatory for the Catholic priests have triggered pedophilia at an unimaginable scale. Instead of revising that demonic rule the Catholic church expand its covert up. In Canada and the USA the Catholic church has practiced disgusting methods on the natives to convert them.
The history of the Catholic church is filthy. Instead of reforming it persists in obsolete and dangerous practices. The pope let himself manipulated by the Catholic powers lead by the USA to host the representative of the evil, a megalomaniac criminal who is sending the Ukrainian men to the slaughterhouse for his own glory. The pope should lash himself 1000 times in his cell to punish himself for inability to resist the evil temptation.
Agreed. The Vatican is now destroying the Church. When first elected, I had high hopes for Bergoglio. If he wanted to preserve the Church and its moral authority, he long ago would have encouraged a married clergy that produced many children, as an example to the Faithful, as a counter to the liberal hedonism of the West.
He also would have made explicit efforts to advance autocephaly in the Roman Church, and issued an Encyclical whereby he acknowledged that the Bishop of Rome is merely Primus Inter Pares. Only then could the entire Church (in all of its diversity of thought) begin to discuss rapprochement between its various expressions, beginning with Unity between Latins and Greeks/Russians. Then onto Copts and Armenians
The cardinals elected Bergoglio precisely because he had been totally compromised through his close association with the military junta in Argentina, during what’s now called “the Dirty War.” Mr. Bergoglio was supposed to appear before a court in Argentina, in 2003 I think, to testify about the fate of the thousands of abducted children whose only “crime” was to have leftist parents. Their blood relatives wanted to know the truth. These children were distributed to military and police families. Bergoglio refused to testify. So much for his personal respect for family life. That court had already stipulated they would not ask him to testify about any confessions he had heard as a priest, but Bergoglio was – and is – 100% impudent. Of course this was known to the 100+ cardinals, but collectively they did not care. So it’s not just one evil man, but a large assortment of cardinals, too. All those cardinals had been appointed by the previous pope in a massive uprooting of all the old ones.
I can say one good thing about Catholicism: Roughly half of the adult Catholics in the US know about the evil in the Church’s history, and they don’t particularly try to hide it or refuse to talk about it. So I think there’s hope.
Catholic Church is subject of continuous attack from Satan himself. That attack started from day one.We now witnessing end and collapse once pillar of Christ Church on Earth. However there are still many faithful priests and believers and some of them will stay in faith till the end.
Anyone who believes that the Roman Catholic Church is a manifestation of genuine Christian belief may also be gullible enough to believe that I am the spiritual leader of the Nguni people of KwaZulu-Natal. (Full disclosure: I am a white male of northwestern European heritage.)
The RCC, the Khazarian Neo-Pharisaic Talmudists (signified by coke head grifter extraordinaire Zelensky and the nepotistic human trash littering the halls of Washington), and the various village idiots comprising the Neo-Nazi factions in the Ukraine all share the same spiritual bed. To whom they offer worship should be obvious.
Just noticed that Nazi symbol appears to have the same characteristics as the Twitter Bird does.
They both appear to be falling angels.
Imagine that.
If anyone wonders why the entire world is in such pathetic shape, consider this, for example:
Over one and a half billion people around the world have been “duped” about the Catholic church-concocted PAPACY, mostly due to their own gullibility and outright blindness and ignorance, with tragic consequences for the entire world, because whatever the Pope says, it is from God and his followers faithfully accept and comply with it.
Yet, 2 little Bible verses completely demolish this “myth” cleverly created by the architects of the Catholic religion:
Although Jesus did say to Peter in Matt 16: 19 “thou art Peter and over this rock I will build my church and I will give you the keys to heaven…whatever you shall bind on earth, it shall be bound in heaver”, only a couple chapters later, in Matt. 18: 18, He stated to his disciples: “whatever “ye” (meaning all of you) shall bind on earth, it shall be bound in heaven”. So He must have made all 12 disciples, including Judas Iscariot, into Popes.
Then Peter, supposedly the Pope himself, according to Catholicism, said in Acts 10: 26, after he and others were miraculously freed from their shackles and their prison, to the people who’d knelt down before them, as if they were special: “do not bow down to me, for I am a man, just like you…”
And to add insult to injury, we have a Pope Francis, shaking the hand of a Neo Nazi murderer, giving Nancy Pelosi, an ardent supporter and enabler of aborting millions of babies, holy communion, which her own priest had refused to give her, also was quoted and translated by the official translator for the Vatican Roratte Caele, in an interview with an avowed atheist, that: “when we die, we cease to exist…”; imagine such blasphemy from the mouth of a Pope, ha!
One hell of a great bullshitter is this “Pope”.
Hear, hear!
https://rumble.com/v2ohw40-watch-the-sound-of-freedom-a-spotlight-on-the-global-movement-to-end-the-tr.html
Nazism in Ukraine is not about targeting Jews as Hitler did, it’s about adapting the same methods and fascist-racist techniques to target Russians. This also explains why the Jewish/Zionist neocons behind Biden also turn a blind eye to the obvious Nazism in Ukraine, and in the other countries that are part of NATO.
In WWII Jews were called ‘untermensch’ or lesser humans by the Nazis. They were classed as inferior non-Aryan people that came from the East. Now for extremist nationalist Ukrainians like Zelensky et al, the untermensch are Russians who have also been historically classified as people from the East. We are seeing nothing but ethnic cleansing in Ukraine, symbolised by the red and black flag often brandished by Ukrainian soldiers. The red is idealised ‘pure’ Ukrainian blood, the black is the soil of Ukraine.
That Jews were targeted in WWII with the horrific consequences we know of, makes it doubly appalling that Jewish people like Zelensky and others I mention above, adapt and endorse the same hideous ideology.
Same thing happened in The Balkans, the place where the border between Catholicism and Orthodoxy has been for a millennium.
Remember what Lavrov told us about hitlers heritage, he was a jew.
That little factoid is one great tool when someone says zelensky is a jew so there are no nazis in the ukraine….
There is nothig new under the sun, and you should read the books from those that question the ww2 narrative.
The books from the people that was imprisoned and/or publically maligned and cancelled for studying historical documents and sites are the ones you should read first.
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Norway
Yes, you are right. All forbidden or else.
the americans are warmingers, and they cannot understand a man of peace like francis. my impression is that the protestant and woke usa people hates not just russians, not just chinese, but also catholics. now americans blames the pope for a war they begun and that they imposed on my country and to our pope. we got no options, the ones in charge are the usa pritestants. and, as the protestants of nazi germany, their choiche is the war. it’s a confession that gave power at the prussian warmongers and spreaded war across europe and now they’re spreading war across the world. and that for a “self made” religion born to be tolerant just to excesses of state power, like dragging citizens in wars. honestly i think if there’s an hell the protestants will end right there, though they got this pagan wiev of the “grace” that should allows them to do every bad act with god protection. maybe is that weird believe that causes the rest of behaviros of this weird culture
Bergoglio is “a man of peace”? His blood-soaked past when he collaborated with the junta who would show him the list of liberation theology priests marked for killing and he would signal his approval does not jibe with this label.
The country where he enjoys least popularity of all where he trots busily is Argentina. That is why he has never gone back on a visit,
Ciao Giandvide, Mi pare molto che sei una italiana, da vero? Mi nona era venuta di Cicilia.
Man of peace, of course “ALL” Popes have to be men o peace, but what concrete actions has Francis taken to bring peace??
Criticizing Americans for wanting a wall to protect us from criminals coming into our country and bringing their poison “fentanyl”? What about the wall around the Vatican 18 foot thick and 30 feet high?
What about the violence against unborn children, when he gave the biggest promoter of abortion in the world, Nancy Pelosi communion, when even her priest had refused to give her?
I agree with you: “Americans are warmongers”, and this war in Ukraine will be the last one Americans have embarked on and the end of America itself!
The Papacy is an invention “extracted” from the Bible by the Catholic Church, which does not exist… Jesus Christ is the ONLY mediator between men and God. Ciao bella!
Constantinople was the second Rome. Moscow is the third one. Even Wikipedia agrees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_third_Rome
Excellent post, Larry. Thanks for bringing in this angle.
What i find interesting is how the Eastern Orthodox Church / Byzantine Church co-existed comparatively well with the Muslims in North Africa and West Asia in what is present day Egypt, Syria and Turkey, etc.
It was the Holy Roman Empire and the Western Europeans out for blood and to loot and plunder in their crusades. They were also the ones highly intolerant of other religions or beliefs (“heretics”) as in the Spanish Inquisitions and the destruction of the Cathars.
Zelensky converted to Christianity and baptized his children.
Yes. And when doing that, Zelensky did not know what flavour of Christianity to choose so he made his own, with blackjack, and hookers, and burning churches, and arresting priests, as per Nazi traditions.
The question, I have, is whether the papacy knew and approved in advance of Zelensky’s attire.
Larry, based on your arguments, the answer is yes. Certainly, the pope could have insisted on 1. a change of sweatshirt – say to a business suit, or 2. draping a cloth so the symbols were not featured in the official photo. Or even photoshopping the photo before release.
Thus, this supports your thesis that the papacy is sending a message to Poland and rump Ukraine, “we stand with you against eastern schism-ists.” This is the opposite of taking a position of peace to provide an opportunity to lead negotiations – again a message. One thing I am certain, the papacy understands symbolism.
On the other point, Zelensky clearly enjoys “trolling” Western leaders and the political corner they have painted themselves into – appearing in a sweatshirt to demand money from Western governments – another reason Tucker was fired for pointing this out. I ask, was the sweatshirt even recently laundered?
Very rich people wear stuff only once. This sweatshirt was never washed because it’s brand new, and will never be washed because now it’s soaked in (un)holy bodily fluids.
The pope is a nazi jesuit scumbag.
Larry-
Why do you block my comments?
I make relevant comments based on my experience living as an expat in Ukraine until June 2022 when I left because it is unsafe for independent thought and opinions.
I have met with Gonzalo in person in Kharkiv just a couple of months before the war.
I very much agree with his view of what is happening and the likely outcome- Russian takeover of Ukraine.
Of course this can become much more given the insane running Washington, Brussels, London & NATO.
You allow Biswapriya Purkayastha to post everyday with his often derogatory, but always delusional takes- but you block me.
I’ve researched quite extensively on the relationship between zionist jews and wwii German Nazis. Eustace Mullins claimed it(NAZI) stands for national socialist zionist. I don’t believe there is an equivalent between the German nazi and the neonazi. Other than zionists have an influence on both. Maybe I’m wrong. I don’t believe in much of history after 13 years of observation after my big sis expired in a couple months whilst living in midtown Manhatten. Her best friend expired the same way the year prior. Something to do with the 911 incident?
Your article has everything to do with Christians and their disputes. And now the fake pope and the Vatican meeting with the porn clown has much to do with the relationship between the Vatican and the Zions. No surprise with any of this including pedophilia and the catholic church, pornography and little man Z and this tangled mess.
I hope that Russia wins soon and much of the world’s evil is brought to a close.
Hi Larry, you are right about the crimes of the crusaders, but 22 years before the the sack of Costantinople from the crusaders, the (Greek orthodox) mobs under the order of the emperor did a large scale massacre against the Roman Catholic inhabitants of Costantinople (mainly Italians).
Massacre of the Latins, in 1182.
We are talking about tens of thousands people killed and the survivors were sold as slaves to the sultanate.
What is true is the relations between Rome and Constantinople were at least decent until more or less the end of the 8th century, after Irene of Athene temporarily succeded to her husband as regent and later had her own son imprisoned and blinded in order to be the ruling empress.
After that the pope in Rome recognised the king of the franks as emperor, and the differences started to grow.
Unfortunately there were a lot of political struggles from all parties involved: Greek orthodox, Italians and Frank.
Let’s say I do not have a good opinion of most rulers involved, including the Catholic church that allied first with Longobards and then with the franks in order to steal the center of Italy, the franks and their descendants that have pillaged Italy for more than 1000 years and most of the eastern Roman rulers that came after Justinian, who were more interested on being adored like Persian kings than anything else.
Of course I respect the last emperor, that died defending the wall of Roma Nova when the ottomans entered the city.
Regarding the comments here: The Pope was just in Hungary meeting with Orban, but I guess that’s already forgotten. Could it be he’s meeting with the different players, naively perhaps, in an attempt to broker peace? Or must it always come down to slander and weird anti-Catholic black legends?
The *AVERAGE* American is virtually oblivious to anything that has or ever will happen more than a football field away from their bubbles.
Anti-Bergoglio is not anti-Catholic. Bergoglio is anti-Catholic. In fact he is anti-Christian
Pope brokering peace. That’s a good joke. Beter than those that Zelensky does. Speaking of him, I’m sure Pope congratulated Zelensky on burned churches and arrested priests. He must have got extra brownie points for the idea of exchanging priests for captured Azovites, though he is still far away from numbers achieved in The Balkans area.
On the other hand, I might have missed Vatican condemning those horrible acts, and offering apology and money to rebuilt what has been destroyed by Uniats (that are under Vatican).
Pope meeting with “different” players:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/62792
“Eastern Orthodox churches do not have a history of pedophilia and covering it up unlike their counterparts in Rome. This is probably a consequence of the Eastern Orthodox policy that allows priests to marry and have children.”
The EO Church “does not ‘allow’ priests to marry, it makes it obligatory: no graduate of a theology college can be considered for priesthood UNLESS he is married
Not exactly. If a person is not married by the time they are ordained a priest then they may not be married. Basically, get married prior to or in seminary or stay celibate. There is no actual requirement to be married in order to enter the priesthood.
Have never met or heard of an unmarried Christian Orthodox priest. Monk yes but not priest. I was raised in that faith.
No unmarried priest In Russia, not in Eastern Europe, not in Greece. Widow maybe.
“… as in the Spanish Inquisitions …” (in plural …!)
And the (Protestant) Danish hysterical “witch-hunts”:
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/a-museum-in-this-consecrated-danish-town-has-brought-witch-hunts-from-16th-century-to-life-3011639.html
And the Swedish, the English …? Scottish …?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_early_modern_Scotland
And should we forget the Salem witch trials in 1692, in Protestant Massachusetts …?
You are absolutely right. I am just tired of this shit always coming in our way, from people that do not know even their own religous misconducts. Also please note that the good willed, protestant Swedes destroyed 18000 villages and 1500 towns during the 30 year war in Germany. General consensus: well done, good job, I am sure nobody died, or they all deserved it.
I have been taught in ecumenism in mind regarding our christian brethren, but reading and meeting these people (protestant mostly), I regard this to be a big mistake. They are absolutely up in their own assholes about their own behaviours while not know anything about sexual abuses in their own church, their historic examples of destruction, torture and mass killings. (North America .. I am yet to meet any native americans in Manhattan and Connecticut…). This much hypocrisy stops my mind.
looks like Ukraine won’t be “deNazified” until SSellenssky and his inner circle are in Miami.
The confluence and clash of symbols and 2000 yr old world historical trends astonishes.
A Jew in charge of running a pogrom against Orthodox Christians and a war on the Third Rome in the Pale of Settlement, making Hajj to Rome to receive the blessing of a Jesuit Pope while adorned with the most notorious Nazi insignia.
The demons that drove 2000 yrs of the West’s bloody civilizational history come together in a few photos. All that’s missing is Gen. Surovikin (aka: Gen. Armageddon) standing in the background.
I’m sure someone will paint that scene on the wall of a new built church.
***It has been almost 1000 years since the split in Christianity that created the Eastern Orthodox Christian movement and the Roman Catholic Church.
“Eastern Orthodox movement”? That’s an oddly inaccurate characterization, Larry. The Great Schism didn’t result in a “movement” of any kind. Rome (and the churches of the West) broke away from the Churches in the East, for a number of reasons. (In fairness to Roman Catholics, they will say that the Eastern Churches broke away from them. The truth is there is blame to be applied both ways).
It would not be simple for the Orthodox and Roman Churches to reunite as Rome has added quite a lot to what was received in the time since the Schism. There are sizable differences in theology between the two. Unfortunately, unity is highly unlikely.
It’s not about theology, but about money and power. Banderites, currently burning churches, are Uniats and have Orthodox rituals while being under Vatican. If you think this visit is not related with that, then I have a brigde in Kherson to sell you.
Well, my comment was not about Elensky’s visit. It was about the Schism and the relationship between Rome and the Churches of the East.
So is mine. Uniats are just an obvious example of overcoming the “Schism gap”. They were Orthodox Christians, and are now under Pope (without being Catholic like Poles), burning Orthodox churches and terrorizing priests and churchgoers. No theological problems there for them. Catholics also easily ovecome theological differences with Islam, in order to gang up on Orthodox Christians (like in Crimean War, or Yugoslav mess in 1940s and 1990s).
Like I already wrote, it’s not about theology, but about money and power. Overcoming Schism would require Vatican to give up on the desire to rule the (Christian) World. That’s the reason for Schism to happen in the first place, and what the Protestants protested about. Theological stuff is just an excuse. A very poor one, as far as I’m concerned.
My understanding is that Zelensky requested that the Pope condemn Russian “aggression”. He refused and offered to mediate the conflict – which Zelensky refused. Perhaps he stirred up old conflicts with the Russian Orthodox church by meeting with Zelensky in the first place. On the other hand, he may have been genuinely trying to make constructive efforts towards peace.
VATICAN CITY, March 10 (Reuters) – The war in Ukraine is driven by the interests of several “empires” and not just of Russia’s, Pope Francis said in an interview published on Friday.
For the same reason he visited Hungary to consult with Orbán a few weeks before. I am at aghast about how little people know about. The Catholic church is weak, and this pope is as well a weak person, still at least he is trying to do something. Where are the efforts from the eastern orthodox brethrens ? Where are the protestant efforts ?
We catholics are openly considered as evil pedophiles, while all the churches has similar number of abuses. Yes, the eastern orthodox church as well, yet nobody knows about it. The saker and other shitheads are openly saying that this is a catholic plan to clean up Russia… Well, the Skare is a moron. Where does the catholic church have such power ? In the US and in UK ? In the 2 most protestant countries ? Do not make me laugh.
We haven’t had a pope reigning since 1958 when judeomasonry took over Vatican. Some evidence presented here.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=60NrxZuyl0Y&t=112s&pp=ygUacGFwYWwgaW1wb3N0ZXJzIGZ1bGwgbW92aWU%3D
Francis is a Sayan. If you look at his family background they lived off a tributary of the Po river in northern Italy called Oglio before moving to Argentina. It is very likely his real name is Berg and Oglio was a appended. He keeps a kosher kitchen.
https://vaticancatholic.com/anti-pope-francis-visit-synagogue-in-rome/
Based on the gross ignorance of several comments above, the Catholic religion is the authentic historical Christian religion. I have attached detailed information for their education.
https://vaticancatholic.com/bible-catholic-church-book/
Bonjour,
Je suis catholique français et j’apprécie beaucoup vos articles, juste un mot sur la pédophilie dans l’église catholique romaine et dans le monde laïc en général, vous écrivez que les prêtres orthodoxes ne sont pas pédophiles parce qu’ils ont la possibilité de se marier mais 90% des pédophiles laïcs dans le monde sont des hommes mariés
C’est l’idéologique gauchiste maçonnique qui pervertit l’église catholique romaine
Le gauchisme est une maladie mentale
bonne jounrée
Didier
Roman Catholicism is evil incarnate.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mPW9MpifLEiFZG8t6
“A grotesque farce.”
Um, that shot from the movie Gladiator frequently used at Zerohedge: “Are you not amused?” 🙂
Consider:
1) German Panzers (ok, Leopards) sporting the Iron Cross looking for a fight with Russian tanks only a few hundred km from Kursk;
2) The Great Schism Show! Step right up, folks, and see Catholics beating up on Orthodox and, who knows, vice versa! Been running longer than the Mousetrap and we still don’t know the ending!
3) Pokey pompous Penis Puppeteer President proselytizes Papal pushover!
And so on.
Except, the few hundred thousand dead (does it matter which side?) and for what? The Raytheon share price? The Grand Chessboard?
Bullshit.
No, not a farce, it’s disgusting.
Why is everyone so surprised at the pope’s behavior. Francis is the first jesuit to be elected pope and it is a well-known fact that the jesuit order was founded by “converted” jews and the overwhelming majority of its members were crypto jews.
Addendum to my comment:
I took my information principally from “The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews: Jesuits of Jewish Ancestry and Purity-of-Blood Laws in the Early Society of Jesus” by Robert Aleksander Maryks. Interesting reading.
Is this really a NAZI symbol? Actual name, historical usage? Looks rather generic (“war iconography”) to me. Or a derivative of the trident in the “Coat of arms of Ukraine”.
Looking again, seems like angel wings and a sword, resembling the “Coat of arms of Ukraine” in shape, crusader style. Probably Zelensky playing to his catholic audience. He seems very adaptive in this way. I also doubt his, hm, advisors would let him show NAZI symbols on himself, it would hurt the narrative.
Oh, it seems to be the emblem of the OUN (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists). So, yes this is pretty bad…
All the roads lead to Stepan Bandera in Ukropstan.
https://odysee.com/@Che_Guevara:f/zelensky_touring_italy_in_neonazi_dress:9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists#Split_in_the_OUN
This is truly beyond the exceptional. Exceptionally outrageous. I was born and raised into a Roman Catholic family in USA. This is so far out as to be unbelievable. This Pope is an exceptional piece of shit.
For confirmation from another angle go ask also the Palestinians about this gods representative on earth. George Carlin nailed it when it came to that all loving God.
The times resemble those before WW2.
Biden calling out large numbers of his country’s citizens is not unlike Hitler’s rants against the german jews. Remarkable.
People like Obama who was worrisome because of the proven support for the vocal anti-semite Rev Wright and jew hating Al Sharpton approves through his silence.
You Trump cultists are more like the Brown Shirts: easily manipulated tools for violence. Your own night of the long knives will come soon enough.
Yes, the Moscow orthodox mafia church must be destroyed…just as the Kremlin Nazimafia…those stupid turds…there are a lot of decapitations necessary and Russia must be torn apart…ahahahaha
Traurigerweise merken die Menschen nicht das die westlichen Regierungen von den
Eliten gesteuert werden und im Grunde bestimmen wie das Volk gesteuert werden muss!
Die Regierung ist nichts weiter als der Verwalter der Eigentümer und Bevölkerung.
Es sind acht Familien die mit ihre Macht die Regierungen steuern;
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080
The eastern orthodox church has no cases with pedophilia.. ffs just do a google search please… for some reason it is not publicized, but there is plenty if you are willing to look. Same goes for protestant churches, buddhist monasteries and so on. And do not even start on the non religious organizations just do a visit to Thailand or and check how prevalent this issue is.
You sound butthurt. Maybe cardinal did not put enough of the holy lube.
They are a satanic clique that is very present in all the power structures of today’s world (WEF, WHO, UNO etc.)
It is enough to read Matthew 23: 8-12 & Matthew 5: 28-30, the clearest Words of my Lord, to understand the role of the popes.
Pope calls sex abusers ‘children of God’ deserving of ‘love’
https://nypost.com/2023/05/11/pope-francis-calls-sex-abusers-children-of-god/
Popes and the Presidents/ Leaders?
It is enough to read Matthew 23: 8-12 & Matthew 5: 28-30, the clearest Words of my Lord, to be able to understand the role of the popes.
https://www.bibleserver.com/ELB.NIRV/Matth%C3%A4us23
&
https://www.bibleserver.com/ELB.NIRV/Matth%C3%A4us5
Pope calls sex abusers ꞌchildren of Godꞌ deserving of ꞌloveꞌ
https://nypost.com/2023/05/11/pope-francis-calls-sex-abusers-children-of-god/
Jesus said:
John 8:44 You are of your father, the DEVIL. And you do (his) desires/ lusts. He was a MAN-MURDERER from the beginning, and stood not in the truth, because there is NO TRUTH in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar, and the FATHER of LIES.
1 John 3: 8-10
8 Whoever does SIN is of the DEVIL. That’s because the DEVIL has been SINNING from the beginning. But the Son of God was revealed to destroy (or ‘loosen’) the devil’s work (or ꞌtoilꞌ).
9 Everyone who is born of God does NOT SIN, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 Hereby are manifest the CHILDREN of GOD, and the children of the DEVIL: Everyone who does not do righteousness is NOT of God, and he who does not love his brother.
(The Pope loves the child abusers because he and they are descended from the same father.)
Zelensky offended Pope with his bad choice of present
https://tass.com/world/1618509