The United States has been on a collision course with China for more than two years thanks to Joe Biden. One symptom of the fraying relationship is the repeated threat by the U.S. to impose economic sanctions on China. It started in March 2021:
Beijing hit back immediately with punitive measures against the EU that appeared broader, including European lawmakers, diplomats, institutes and families, and banning their businesses from trading with China.
Instead of confining sanctions to the human rights issues, Biden’s Secretary of Treasury, Janet Yellen, confirmed in April 2022 of:
I guess it has something to do with Spring. Just as the swallows return to Capistrano, it is March and the Biden Administration is feeling the need to keep upping the ante by threatening China with new sanctions if it provides military aid to Russia. Helping Russia in its Ukraine war is the latest thing China should not do lest it incur the wrath of cranky old Joe Biden. Once again the diminutive and rotund Janet Yellen was the messenger:
Yellen said: “We will certainly continue to make clear to the Chinese Government and the companies and banks in their jurisdiction about what the rules are regarding our sanctions and the serious consequences they would face for violating them.”
The ex-Federal Reserve chair also warned that the US would “continue to impose further sanctions on Russia” and would curb the Kremlin’s ability to evade sanctions which are already in place.
I suspect this is a last straw for China. Xi Jinping is not a moron. Besides watching the United States send billions of dollars in lethal aid to Ukraine, the inept Biden team now is promising openly to provide Taiwan with significant military equipment whose only purpose is to kill Chinese soldiers.
On the economic front, China is more vulnerable than Russia to Western sanctions. Consider the following:
- China’s exports for 2021 was $3,553.51B, a 30.17% increase from 2020.
- China Exports to United States was US$577.13 Billion during 2021, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade.
- China exported 472 billiion in Euros to the European Union in 2021.
Sanctions are a two edge sword. It is true that almost one third of China’s exports goes to the United States and Europe. However, the United States and Europe also rely on China for key pharmaceuticals, electronics and rare earth minerals. If history is any guide, sanctions are only good for pissing off the sanctioned country and forcing it to seek alternatives.
There are more signs that China, inspired apparently by Mohamed Ali’s rope-a-dope strategy, is starting to punch back:
“I’m personally affected because I have an account with HSBC in Shanghai. I can’t get my money out. The government is restricting the flow of money out of the country,” Mobius said on Thursday on the Fox Business show “Mornings with Maria”. “So I would be very, very careful investing in China,” the founder of Mobius Capital Partners said.
The U.S. and Europe discovered that sanctions are an impotent tool against Russia. It looks like they are going to double down on China. One thing is certain, regardless of the economic impact on China, further sanctions will solidify relations between Russia and China and will alienate China from the West. This is not a recipe for peace and prosperity.
Oh yes it is, since this is exactly the right way to destroy the West itself. A bankrupt and impotent West is exactly what the world needs for peace and prosperity (for the rest of us).
you’ re right. If it wasn’t for the U.S. reserve currency status American presidents would have to beg congress for tax increases to fund their military misadventures. The American people would have a somewhat diminished appetite for war.
It’s not reserve currency status that does that but rather having a central bank (i.e., the Federal Reserve, which is neither a federal institution nor has any reserve). Having the reserve currency allows the gov’t to export inflation it creates here at home. If the dollar weren’t the reserve currency, we’d feel the inflationary impacts of what the Fed does for FedGov a lot sooner. Regardless, as multi-polarity advances and the world de-dollarizes, those chickens will come home to roost.
Thank God the American Public’s appetite for war doesnt impact whether we go to war or not. War is profitable to Corporate America, ergo the American Publics appetite notwithstanding, we are most certainly going to war.
Americans pay taxes for war – they pay it in Health Care and Education Costs………..
They pay it in adulterated water supplies
They pay it in adulterated food
Americans live an illusion
This made me think about what the western recipe for peace and prosperity is. I have lived trough the Cold War, and The West bringing their recipe for peace and prosperity to Eastern Europe after its end. It turned out to be plain colonisation, under the guise of freedom and equality and democracy. We also got some wars, and sodomy parades.
He who has the manufacturing makes the rules. It used to be he who has the gold makes the rules but we haven’t had any of that for 50 years.
China and Russia have the strategy of tie partnerships with the countries with huge natural resources like Venezuela, Brazil, Africa and middle east. If they succeed, they will let the West in a serious situation, since neither US nor EU have local energetic resources to their development/economies.
“Thanks to Joe Biden?”
Lol come on Larry. It started with Obama’s “pivot” and Trump took anti-China policy to a new level. It’s fully bi-partisan. Not a sliver of daylight between any of them. Biden is just finishing what Trump started. Anglo-zionost atlanticist banking cartels cannot tolerate China’s real industrial (state) capitalism.
Tariffs are one thing. Planning for direct military conflict is another.
The US has more than 800 military bases outside their own soil. They are way beyond planing at this stage.
Many wars start with sanctions. The war is already happening. US is only projecting but they eventually will have to back down or escalate more. So far the US is only talking about One-China-policy. Their actions prepping up Taiwan show, that they don’t mean it.
Meanwhile Russia is depleting NATO and US military stocks. China is already in the back seat watching. They will do what has to be done, once the US crosses Chinese red lines. The US is serious about defending their hegemony status. So is the rest of the “free” world about ending it. That is why US was not able to isolate Russia and unite anyone beside their own vassals to follow them.
Cuando era jovencito los productos de USA duraban años, sean coches (20años) electrodomésticos, menaje para el hogar. Añoro los tv Motorola y Zenith duraban una eternidad. Ahora China produce casi todo lo que consume USA. ¿De dónde sacaran las fábricas si sancionan a China?
Tienes mucha razon y lo que dices va doble en el caso de Europa.
That was only true until the biz bean counters hit upon the spiffing wheeze of “planned obsolescence” – even if only bigger & bigger tailfins & chrome cowbells.
Then products began to have shorter & shorter life spans AND were made to be non-repairable.
As an old grease monkey mechanic raised on Triumphs,Nortons & BSAs, I doffed me lid to the first Japanese bikes – only needed 3 or 4 spanners to strip & rebuild the entire machine.
I still have toolboxes of rusty, through non-use, Whitworth, SAE, AF, BSF and other specialist tools & widgets.
Then they did the same thing with cars and the rest is history.
Why US has them is not clear………I mean Main-Kastel is a pit and was due to be torn down and given back to the town for building land, now they cannot build housing for Germans…….
https://www.hessenschau.de/panorama/hyperschallwaffen-in-mainz-kastel-der-kalte-krieg-kehrt-zurueck-nach-wiesbaden,airbase-kastel-hyperwaffen-100.html
Now US taxpayers want to build more……….
https://www.iz.de/profile/projekte/US%20Armee%20Station%20Mainz-Kastel/
https://augengeradeaus.net/2021/12/sammler-russland-ukraine-nato-das-boese-in-mainz-kastel/
I once lived here…….now I would avoid it like the plague since US seems intent on making it a Kinshal target
Trump killed the INF treaty so the US could put missiles around China.
Trump didn’t start a war per se, and we don’t know Trump’s role in the INF or tariff decisions, but you can’t pin the blame on Biden alone.
The new Cold War consensus is entirely contrived. It is an American creation, and a bipartisan one. It is exactly the same threat inflation and insanity, driven by US corporate interests, that started the first Cold War.
The US created and invented that first Cold War too. Look at Leffler’s famous essay one the origins of national security doctrine after WW2. There was no risk at all of Soviet invasion of Western Europe. And all the defense studies of the time knew that. LaFeber’s history of the origins of the Cold War confirms this too.
But the US had a vision of and need for an open world economy for US companies to access, and so communism became a satanic bogeyman, hyped beyond any rationality. Why? Because eastern Europe was supposed to provide the food and resourced to western European capitalist recovery. Why else? Because any type of communist or nationalist government anywhere in the world might obstruct US access to resources and markets.
The evil of the Cold War was 100 percent American. And the new evil being hatched against China is entirely an American conspiracy as well.
China hasn’t done anything but create amazing growth and development for its people. It provides a proven model for its people. It is sovereign. And these are crimes from the standpoint of the rapacious American ruling class.
I don’t like the Chinese government particularly, but I must concede that what you wrote is pretty much on the mark. If the last year has taught us anything, it has to be that Washington is the HQ of the most dangerous predators on the planet, not to mention the most ill-educated and boorish.
Trump killed INF Treaty because Bolton and Lindsay Graham told him to…….
Reagan saw reason but Trump cannot…….
“Anglo-zionost atlanticist banking cartels cannot tolerate China’s real industrial (state) capitalism.2
The banking cartels are who built up China in the 1970s.
They are behind everything.
The outsourcing of jobs and the wealth that goes with it was moved from north America and Europe very slowly, piece by piece to low wage Asian countries.
China did not achieve this by themselves while the west sat back and watched.
It was engineered by the banks, the same banks that brought the Bolsheviks to power in Tsarist Russia.
Agreed. But China wasnt a useful idiot. They are dutiful students of Michael Hudson.
The Chinese have learned to keep the reins of debt/money creation under state control.
But this isnt your grandpa’s “kawmunizm.” It’s robust industrial capitalism that the state is guiding independently of wall street speculators and London pirates. It cuts western finance out of the share which infuriates the hucksters who thought they could have the cake and eat it too.
Due to how badly Russia and China were repeatedly subverted and smashed by the dynastic dark force of the banking families, I am persuaded that the Russians and Chinese have been patiently playing the long game, waiting and watching the Anglo-American-EU gang slowly self-destruct and disintegrate under the weight of their unserviceable debts.
The western banker-financiers thought they were playing China; but all along China has been playing them, taking advantage of their offshoring of manufacturing industries to grow their economy, lift over 700 million Chinese out of poverty, and now China is on the cusp of becoming the number one world leading economy.
The Russians and Chinese remain calm and carefully choose their words; but behind the backs of the corrupt clowns posing as leaders in the West, the Russians and Chinese are laughing their heads off as they watch the buffoons in Washington, London, Berlin and Brussels make ever greater fools of themselves as ever more loudly they bellow threats they cannot deliver on – excepting they resort to hitting the big red button when they realize that there is no possible way they can ever pursue their shattered dream of total global dominance and they lose what is left of their desperate befuddled minds.
The Russians and Chinese, now in concert with other BRICS partners, are way out in front and ahead of the clown charade.
This is without doubt the most dangerous time in history. If the retards in the once-rich, so-called developed nations (joke) lose it and let loose with nukes then the future could not be bleaker – if there is any future for humanity in such scenario. But if the Western clowns can manage to apply the most minimal intelligence to understanding that their megalomaniacal fantasies for world power can never be achieved and they can let the world get on working together to develop a peaceful shared multipolar world, then hopefully in the not-too-distant future humanity might be able to look back at this very troubling time we are living through right now and breathe a big sigh of relief as they look back in dazed disbelief at the insane madness that gripped all the leaders and politicians of the Anglo-American-EU nations.
If there is the chance of a bright future for this world that might be birthed through these painful events, and the BRICS, led by Russia and China and India, succeed in asserting a consensus for cooperative goodwill to prevail in the affairs of nations then it will have been worth it. If not then the banker-financiers along with their cretinous lackey cohorts in western governments and militaries will only succeed in destroying themselves and humanity. There are no other options.
Agree.
Chiang Ki-Shek was defeated after WWII by Mao and moved his remaining forces to Taiwan, with US assistance and protection… Chiang was, IIRC, married to a banker’s daughter (HSBC?). In the US, blame was laid on State for “losing” China.
Indeed, US financial elites could not wait to re-enter China and pushed our economic elites to move their operations from the US to China in order to 1) reduce wages (boosting profits), 2) enter the Chinese consumer market and, from the looks of it, 3) re-exert financial control over the Chinese government and economy.
Aye, that’s their original sin… Both Russia and China refuse to allow western financial elites and their central banks to dominate their economies and governance, as is routine in the West.
China is not a military threat to Taiwan, absent US provocation, and Taiwanese public sentiment does not appear to support US foreign policy goals. Indeed, I suspect Taiwan is looking at Ukraine with great fear for what the West has in mind for them.
The only foreign policy “realism” seen these days in the USG are Republicans arguing that we should exit the Ukraine debacle and pivot toward China. Or, in other words, exit a land war in west Asia (for which we are not equipped and are losing), in order to focus on a maritime and aerial confrontation in east Asia (our military strong suits).
A new Cold War, could be kept going for some time (Chinese re-unification is scheduled for 2049), and will keep the MIC (and all its subsidiaries and bankers and politicians) in tall cotton for the duration.
Sanctions against China? It wouldn’t be a Cold War without them… Contrived, calibrated and constant provocation to implement sanctions *is* US foreign policy.
A hot war with China over Taiwan? Perhaps the US believes it can win a nuclear exchange with China and is willing to risk its carriers to prove it. But will the Taiwanese people play along?
Long enough already… I’ll stop here.
“Aye, that’s their original sin… Both Russia and China refuse to allow western financial elites and their central banks to dominate their economies and governance, as is routine in the West.”
Exactly right. The US elites had a wet dream go wrong in post USSR Russia. The Russians suffered badly under western Capitalism, Putin over the course of time ended their adventures circa 2003 and this is why he is Satan to them. Symbolically, for me anyway, it all goes back to Mikhail Khodorkovsky and the Yukos debacle.
As I recall, the Pentagon war-gamed a confrontation between the US and China over Taiwan back in 2019. The results were that China won in every scenario and did so in fairly short order. Since 2019, China has developed hypersonic missiles that can send US aircraft carriers to the bottom of the sea. One has to ask if the neocons actually enjoy humiliating military defeats.
Bolsheviks did NOT “come to power in Tsarist Russia”
Bolsheviks come to power in Liberal but fantastically incompetent “Russian Republic”.
Those were “white guards”, Russian immigrants who first “came to power in” and destroyed Tsarist Russia, f-d everything, and then fled to West from Bolsheviks.
It’s really funny watching how “western Russians” try t oerase themselves from history and pretend they never existed
Did you what Comrade Lenin said “The capatalist will sell you the rope to hang them”
It begs the question: Are the Ukie paymasters of our “leadership” so much more rewarding than their Chinese paymasters? It’s not much of a secret that the fortunes of the top of both parties are tied heavily to the rise of China, e.g. Cocaine Mitch, DiFi, the Big Guy, ad nauseum.
After a brief spell of common sense, Trump is back to bloviating about how he’d end the war in 24 hrs and how it never would have happened with him at the wheel. Meanwhile, the Minsk II subterfuge was in high gear during his tenure and he could have stopped the war in its tracks by insisting it be enforced. Instead he caved to the neocons and sent Ukraine more arms.
Trump’s an idiot of the ages. The only thing he’s perfected in his entire career has been a self back-patting machine. He makes Bojo’s high wire union jack act look like a monk doing penance.
Between him, Biden and the bipartisan neocon clan, this country’s royally screwed.
Yes, I agree and thought that an odd elision.
Y qu haria Estados Unidos si Mexico untentara entrar al BRICS? Lo atacarian al igual como lo hicieron a principios de los 80tas o esta vez lo harian como en 1846? O quizas se estan preparando antes de que pase algo, con la nueva propuesta de declarar a los traficantes de fentanilo como Terroristas. Tendrian todos los pretextos para convertir al pais en un nuevo Siria.
The Sinophobia and sanctions go much further than Biden. Trump went almost full trade-war, and the “Tilt to Asia” started with Obama and Hillary as Sec of State.
Prior to that even, there were severe limits on what China could buy from the US and EU, which the Chinese complained about when told they were not buying enough goods from the West in order to balance the trade.
I remember reading almost 15 years ago the Chinese saying there were only so many Boeings they could buy, and that if the US would sell space shuttles they would buy those too.
china already manvoered around trumps sanctions, US will have to sanction all of asia to prevent china from conducting commerce.
They are probably insane enough to do this.
Sanctions were not meant to financially hurt China. They were meant to get business relocating out of China and into other Asian, South American and Western countries. It worked.
It worked. China is on the ropes. Now we can all live happily ever after.
It didn’t work well. But did work somewhat.
China has a opportunity to rise in stature as the U.S. empire declines but only if it can temper its own temptations to empire and dominance. Its a tricky transitional phase as Global Power balance shifts and China can lose as much or even more then the US if it doesn’t play its cards wisely. Indeed everyone may lose everything if we proceed recklessly…
My great hope is for America to retire its Global Empire and return to a Great Power that its territorial and its people still can be but this will only come about if we the people humble our ruling classes megalomaniacal impulses to rule the entire Planet. Empire and the sins of it have become a great burden upon the American People its time we repent and seek another way…
Well, that’s what I’m saying: the USA has what it takes to survive well, both materially and humanly, and continue to be a great power (and this time, admired by the world). You just need to get rid of the usurious locusts, finance capitalism, and its priests and acolytes.
Just so. I hate the current ruling class in the US but I continue to be a patriot. I want to return to normalcy, to something like it was previous to WW 1.
Segragation?
Previous to WW1, segregation was ending slowly but surely prior to the Presidency of Woodrow Wilson. It was with Wilson that the US got the Income Tax, the Federal Reserve, the re-introduction of Jim Crow laws and re-segregation supported by the Brain-Washing release of the highly racist first feature length movie “Birth of a Nation”. And also support of American Bankers for WW1, on both sides but primarily the British side.
Getting rid of the locusts and tapeworms is like trying to teach a fish to walk. They are inherent to the US and exist at every length scale. You can’t change your DNA.
And yet, fish in the Cambrian did become tetrapods, from which all land fauna evolved.
Surely with our big, mammalian brains we can continue to evolve, hundreds of millions of years later?
No, it doesn’t, because you can’t simply handwave away 31-odd trillion bucks in open debt, and another 70 or so trillion in unfunded liabilities.
I am far less certain than you are that the US can survive in its present form when that mountain implodes. Bankruptcy, they say, happens slowly, and then quickly. We’re in the quickly period.
A lot of rose-tinted spectacles need to be removed here. The US was birthed out of genocide and slavery and in its entire megalomaniacal existence, it has only ever been out of war for a meagre 16 years. It never was a force for good……nothing but a thieving, pillaging despot. The “exceptional people” and “The Shining City on the Hill” myth created solely for plunder had been exposed long ago but it needed somebody to stand up to the repulsive bully. Now that that’s happened and its inevitable demise and collapse is very evident, suddenly it’s all we can change our spots and attempt to be a normal civilized country….not buying it for a second and I presume the 87% of the world not bribed, bullied or blackmailed into being lackeys will not buy it either.
Yep. Those that named it The Empire of Lies found a perfect fit.
You are allowed to remove their rose tinted glasses on here because Larry is a big fan of the truth and free speech but never try this on many many youtube channels or you will be banned for hate speech.
Larry, you excel at provoking commentary. In a good way. Russian sanctions were designed to destroy Europe and make them complete butt slaves to the US. Russia equals fuel and food. The US has its own. So ‘Murica can be damn brave as long as the Europeans can be damn stupid.
China. Ahhh Sooo. China does not live without the US. Who do they sell their trinkets to? But how do we live without cheap Chinese trinkets? You think inflation is a ballbuster now? Just wait until the cargo containers full of Walmart shit with made in America labels quit coming in.
If it actually happens? If a by God nothing is flowing either way, who would win? I tend to think the Chinese. They share a border with Russia and others. And they can just do more trade that way. And also? Let’s be honest. The Chinese won’t revolt. And they don’t do “elections”.
If Walmart is empty? And inflation pops to 15 or 20% with Chinese cheap shit gone from Walmart? We got elections every two years. Even the weed stupified ‘Murican sheep might wake up.
But it would be damn painful for both. And of course, the Europeans will be dragged even deeper into their self-induced BDSM session of cuckdom to USA foreign policy. At some point will even the Europeans wake up?
I sit on my porch with my Malinois Stella. I drink my Crystal Lite and vodka with my Walther PDP by my side. And wonder if the sun will rise on this suicidal species.
15-20%, I think that is a very optimistic figure. I wouldn’t want to speculate because it’s too awful to contemplate the misery it will bring to regular folk. There are plenty of historic examples of what happens when things enter a negative feedback loop. Those dystopian movies like Soylent Green or Matt Damon’ s 2013 movie Elysium. They are looking scarily prescient for the US.
China can finance and erect an entire factory in the time a US outfit would spend drawing up the plans.
Russia can finance and expand its Moscow metro system to 31 more stations and 70 km of tunnel in the time a US city could manage to dig the access hole for a single station at 1/10 the depth.
China is Japan’s 1980’s industrial blitzkrieg X 10. The one that sent US industry mavens to a psychiatrist’s couch. If in doubt, take a tour of China sometime.
The monopolar game’s over, fellow. Best to stock up on your vodka copium and enjoy the view.
China….trinkets? That’s it? Well, aren’t we full of ourselves on our not so sunny porch today.
Time to wake out of that vodka slumber. It’s not 1990 any more, Rip.
The US Canada and Mexico are already far into discussion on an EU of NA.
There is alot of cheap labour in S.America.
Plus everything made by China can be made by India, Vietnam, Mexico so moving a few factories, no biggie. It also ties India closer to US.
The flow of Western companies out of China and into other Asian countries and South America started with Trump sanctions and has picked up pace since Chinese covid lockdowns.
Very easy for the West to switch off China as a supplier. Africa has all minerals they need and they are using Rwanda as a proxy to destabilize Congo to continue Belgian rape of its wealth. So expect the US to seriously begin to control and colonised Africa.
What the US corporates may struggle with is loss of Chinese market for their iphone, Microsoft etc. Waaagh as Prince Harry would say.
India, China, Iran and Russia are 30% of humanity. These countries are perfectly capable of supplying each other. Add in another 30% thats determined to stay neutral and it gets interesting.
To win over America is not easy. America has sooo many proxies to hurt these countries, they have none yo hurt the US. America has so many economic options and supply options.
So how does Asia win.
Very very hard to win. Because the unity on the Asian, African and South American side is not there. The West is far more unified and it’s going to aggressively divide and rule and unless the East comes up with something super smart the West will win.
Russia is not doing economically or in terms of isolation, as well as it was. This is a loooong hard fight.
The East will have to kill the West in financial markets, build unity, keep markets open and stay the course militarily. The East has little appetite for war. The West is all in on the fight.
So an exhausted fed up East is faced with a dilemma. Wait until next US presidential election or assume this is policy going forward and act now.
There is alot of cheap labour in S.America. — Ash
And about 40 to 50 million South Americans in the USA. That’s a sizeable threat labor pool holding down US wages.
Very easy for the West to switch off China as a supplier. — Ash
We disagree, especially in the short term. Over the medium term and longer, yes that could happen, but, only if US economic and financial conditions do not continue to decline…
So how does Asia win[?] Very very hard to win. — Ash
All China and Russia need do is not lose. On the other hand, the US must win. Defiance of and direct challenges to the hegemon must be met and defeated to maintain primacy. All Russia and China must do is defy, endure and stalemate the US to prevail — US debt and economic weakness will do the rest as the petrodollar falls from its international pedestal: No more trading freshly printed dollars for valuable commodities and manufactured goods.
So an exhausted fed up East is faced with a dilemma. Wait until next US presidential election or assume this is policy going forward and act now. — Ash
So the East is exhausted? How so in your opinion?
As far as the dilemma you posit… they’ve made their decision. Or did you miss that?
US Hegemony and Its Perils
https://www.mfa.gov.cn/eng/wjbxw/202302/t20230220_11027664.html
That’s is where you are wrong the apple iPhone factory is closing, if the idiots in Washington try to finally bury Huawei the china only has to shut down all iPhone production for a month or two and apple will die, then you will see the American mafia scream
China doesn’t really have an empire problem. It has an image and unfamiliarity problem.
Hollywood and music are America’s great weapons in likeability and relatability.
China for mai other countries is still relatively unknown in a cultural and relatability sense. And these things matter.
In. Africa and much of Asia there is still a kiss ass attitude to the white man. Seen as a symbol of wealth and power girls stall them, their friendship is a status symbol.
China and Russia are not anywhere near as good at PR. And the sentiment of the ordinary person will count in relation to whether countries turn East or West. Ofcourse finances and trade count too. But western culture is global culture and the break with the West is a break with part of one’s own identity.
China has had 5000 continuous years of civilization and has survived so many ordeals and trials throughout. It has always had the wisdom and patience to overcome any threat. The U.S. and its allies by now should come to realize that no amount of sanctions or threats will break or subdue China.
In 1806 Napoleon imposed sanctions on England by forbidding Continental Europe from trading with England. The intention was to weaken England to the point where it could be successfully invaded. It didn’t work. Sanctions never work. England’s economy strengthened to the point where he invaded Russia 6 years later because the Russians refused to suspend trading with England. Stop me if this is starting to sound familiar.
I’ve searched my memory for an instance of sanctions achieving the desired result (usually regime change ) Fidel Castro outlasted 9 U.S. presidents. You know the old saw about insanity..doing the same thing over and over again and each time hoping for a different result.
I find an only case were sanctions were a positive factor in a regime change : Apartheid South Africa : it was a pain in the ass to have an US president stop vetoing it and sanctions were just a policy among others… but it helped.
This was the only time sanctions “worked”.
A sanction policy is like a medieval siege , as long as someone is able to deliver the besieged some provisions , it won’t have the desired effects..
And how’s that working out? Apparently South Africa has utterly collapsed.
I think you missed his point. Sanctions worked once. An exception is not a rule.
And the siege metaphor is kind of working.
Sanctions distort the market and increased inflation because people have naturally chosen to the buy the cheapest at the same given quality. If USA have to import $577B from China in a year for example, a total sanction on China will only cause USA to have to buy from elsewhere and probably have to spend more to get the same thing (since that $577B is probably the best deal they got). So China lose that $577B of trade but USA ends up spending more than $577B. That is the first thing why sanctions usually hurt oneself more than the target. It is like spending $100 to cause $80 of damage to target. Secondly, the end resulting effectiveness of sanctions depends on who can find substitutes better. Can USA find alternative producers of the same quantity, same quality and at the same price? Can China find alternative customers willing to pay the same price? In my view both will suffer on this. Thirdly, if alternatives can’t be easily found, what happens? China will have to reduce production (supply). Can USA reduce demand? Do note that if a society suddenly go cold turkey on many cheap products, it can lead to riots.
Sanctions assume there is another source, regardless of price. For many of the products, there is no other source, so inflation would run amok, and shelves would be bare. Between Russia and China, sanctions would mean no raw materials, fuel, food or finished product exports to the EU and US.
If China takes Taiwan, they’ll control all the computer chip production for the world’s auto industry. The typical car these days has half a dozen computers integrated into a system. Look at the problems from just a chip shortage, and extrapolate to a complete supply shut down. All those semis that haul stuff around to keep us fed need them too.
About those semis if they needed chips — that would certainly make the older ones worth fixing. You know, … the ones Governor Gruesome and the donkey legislature banned in CA if made before 2010.
Chinas trade with both US and Europe is about 25% of it’s total exports. Assume there are sanctions despite the worst sanctions some trade will happen either directly or indirectly through third parties.
Let’s assume that trade will constitute approx 10% of it’s total trade. So it will have to find another 15% replacement destination. Say it found only half the needed so it might only be off by 7.5% reductions in exports.
Mind you a lot of the so called exports from China are done by US companies or their subsidiaries. So while it’s some loss for China in terms of taxation and salaries it’s not the total value.
I think China will not be effected financially. US on the other hand will suffer much.
Thank for the back-of-the-envelope guesstimates.
That Reuters article last week about Washington sounding out Sanctions was enough for every Chinese CEO and Political Leader to accelerate de-dollarizing.
All Peking needs to do is stop rolling over it’s US Treasurues when they mature. Use the soon-to-be-devalued dollars paid out to buy hard assets.
After that article, which Chinese corporate Treasuer is going to keep dollars in any bank ?
Exile, I’m in India and have a friend who does currency trading. People are treating the usd like a hot potato these days. Nobody holds on to the dollars for long.
Actually, China could shift much of that 7% to internal markets (they do have massive surpluses with the rest of the world). And moreover, it is not exactly a loss if you cut off a drunk at the bar whose money has no value (and who plans not to pay). Additionally, as Russia has shown, if you have things the world values, then lower prices and they will be absorbed….. funny how the US forgot how markets work!
What will happen to the Chinese products is the same as what is happening to russian oil: they will go through another country, perhaps Vietnam, get rebranded as made in Vietnam, and sold back to the U.S. and the EU with a markup. The big losers will be the buyers, i.e., the U.S. and the EU, who will buy the same stuff with a higher price. China may lose a little, but probably not much, if what is happening to the russian oil is any indication. The winners will be the middle man, like Vietnam, just as India and China is benefiting from re-exporting russian oil.
If TikTok speaks for China, the Chinese way, expect little coming slowly, or nothing. The US was crazy to send all their Biz-for-a-Buck there – talk about self destruction. Maybe the best we all can hope is that VVP has stopped Forever-War-USA…We wish.
The world thanks the USA for committing suicide.
“Diminutive and rotund Janet Yellen” is good. Spherical works, too.
Garden Gnome works as well.
So does short, fat, and hideously ugly Jewess.
Personally I wouldn’t use garden gnome, they poison & destroy things with their evil & destructive ways… Gardens would feel cursed & poisoned & wouldn’t survive the pox placed on them by her being a garden gnome. I know my plants wouldn’t like it & would curse me… Why, when you were doing such a good job being our caretaker??
That is perfect!
There is something in the Patomic’s water that drives obesity. It’s not just Rotunda Yellen. Take a look at Cookies Nuland. She’s busting her big girls’ pants lately.
The hundreds of billions in trade with the US and EU are mainly paper money, a kind of IOU which both the US and EU would love to disown. Unless China converts them into real tangible goods, they are of not much use. China needs to have a coercive tool that is as economically devastating to the West as the power of economic sanctions. One way would be confiscation of intellectual property rights across the whole spectrum of economic activity, from software to design of electronic chips to pharmaceuticals. They can flood the international market with cheaper clones of all these until the West sees the light and walks back on the sanctions
They will certainly do that. Imagine iphone, European luxury cars being banned in China.
What will happen?
Apple and euro car industry will loose their major market.
Chinese can do without these items. But at least some Chinese companies will move to satisfy the market for these items and will capture at least 40% of the market abandoned by these companies.
To scale up they will start selling to rest of the world which will further kill the world wide market for these US and EU brands.
Eventually they will be in distress and be purchased by companies from India, South Korea, Etc.
I love these sanctions.
How long did it take Hyundai to gain significant market share in the US in the middle-to-near high end market? 30 years, that’s it. I remember their first compact models selling for some $5000, well under the competition.
Granted, the US has denied China car/truck imports. It only allowed Japan’s and S.Korea’s to keep them loyal, not an option with China any more. The bottom line is simple: China’s industrial rise scares the hell out of the US, and the open weapon it has to fight back is to call China every name in the book and say that’s why it has to go to war with it by 2025, as some military types have already declared. And what will that accomplish? Clue me in if you know.
In short; stop this fluging runaway DC express loaded with toxic cargo now. I want to get off.
I know it is being done for malign reasons but it is probably the only way the US will start to rebuild its industrial capacity.
Sure there will be pain but there has been pain from betraying US citizens and offshoring industry and that pain will continue to get worse in perpetuity unless the prior (Romney/Wall Street) policy is abandoned.
Ironically the sanctions against Russia helped that country strengthen its industry and economy. Sanctions against China will be effectively sanctions against the US and, given US natural resources, provide the opportunity for the long, hard slide to rebuild US industry.
HOW???? How will US rebuild its industry.???? when US have the worse education system from at least Western Block???? how do you see Americans that at this pont are top 1 most ignorant population in the world??? have you not seen the level of idiocy among the American population? how could America re-technology the country when over 50% of the young population are functionally illiterate, drug users (recreational substances) or indoctrinated in the “neo-Marxist” ideology
“How will US rebuild its industry.????”
Why, with ‘gastarbeiter’ from China and Russia, of course.
🙂
Almost seriously, the gastarbeieter might actually be Germans.
See https://michael-hudson.com/2022/02/america-defeats-germany-for-the-third-time-in-a-century/
to : BEAT ME, DADDY, 8 TO THE BAR
You’re funny, I laughed to myself when you wrote the word “gastarbeiter”, but do you know what it really means, the Polish, Hungarian, Czech, Slovak, etc. skilled workers who replace the non-existent skilled German workforce in Germany ? You are actually thinking of those pensioners who existed in the past but have since turned gray in dignity, i.e. the Germans who tend to their gardens ! Do you really think that they are going to commit the dreamed-of reindustrialization of the USA ? You might be surprised, but today’s “rainbow” German generation has nothing to do with the concepts that are fondly associated with traditional German “expertise”! These young German people of today do not dream of becoming a precision engineer while smoking two joints, their desire (thanks to syrupy Hollywood movies) is to have their long hair blown by the Californian breeze, and to be served by big-breasted girls forever and ever an endless joint ! You Americans managed to make not only your youth impotent, but also those Europeans where their predecessors traditionally accumulated value-creating technological knowledge, but that is already the past !
Disagree.
US is 3rd in world for engineers etc and can rebuild its industries. There is zero reason stopping that in terms of skills and no shortage of skilled immigrants. You don’t need a PhD to make stuff for Walmart. Just good tech, systems, energy prices, cheap labour and machines. All available in US.
Well, from one Beater to a Flagellum 🙂 – of course, as you surely know the original gastarbeiter were Turks brought in to do the jobs the (West) Germans didn’t want to. My point was, as Germany de-industrialises to the benefit of the USA, the more able Germans might emigrate.
Anyway, I was (as frequently am) being at least half sarcastic.
BTW, I’m not American though do live in a vassal of the Imperium.
BTW2, who has not dreamed of being served by big- (or otherwise) breasted girls while smoking a joint? I know I have… 🙂 [see also Monty Python]
After the collapse of the dollar, American debt based economy will turn to shit. Many areas of the US, full of illegals, the indoctrinated, addicts etc… will turn into giant slums. without the means to pay attractive wages, it will be the few skilled Americans who will become ” gastarbeiters” and migrate out. Not to mention Russia will , by 2027,have a higher standard of living/wages than the US, this gap will only increase going into the 2030s (which will be to America worse than the 1990s were to Russia) would make more sense for Germans to migrate there since it’s much closer, and unlike America, not a shithole.
You certainly have a point. Just the other day, Biden’s spokesgal was blathering on about “the People’s Republic of Russia”! To call her a bimbo would be to insult bimbos everywhere.
Her English is at least comprehensible though. There’s that, anyway.
PS: Can I say such things legally speaking? I recently moved to a southern state from a pretty mono-ethnic far northern one and am sometimes having trouble understanding the locals.
I pulled into a parking garage not too long ago and asked the US born attendant where I could park. Couldn’t understand what he said so politely asked him to repeat it twice, saying I couldn’t understand his accent. The way he reacted, I thought I’d threatened to murder his family, sheesh. Anyway, now I just nod my head to anything and go on my way. Eventually, I’ll learn the language I guess.
…and that raises another question that’s been bothering me lately.
Do those ethnically pure Ukrainians now relegate Surzhyk speakers to the back of the bus or is it still just the Russian speakers?
It can manage to rebuild some its industrial capacity, by scraping the EPA, installing thousands of robots and allowing third world slave labor wages to illegal immigrants. The alternative is a massive, no MASSIVE spike in inflation, the inflation we’ve been keeping in check by exporting manufacturing to China & elsewhere for 40 years to begin with.
So you define inflation as wages increasing to keep up with inflation? By all accounts, wages have stagnated for well over thirty years, as all other prices have steadily increased.
Sanctions only have a chance if you’re in a position of advantage. Yellin’s empty threats are like a person playing Indian poker trying to bluff holding a deuce face out on their forehead. Putin and Xi are holding aces, and can see each other’s and know it’s a bluff.
Sure China exports a lot of stuff to the US and EU. Why? They’re about the only source for those products. We off-shored manufacturing mostly to China and now depend on them for products. They know it. This is another example of us shooting ourselves in the foot, except we’re holding the gun at our own heads when we pull the trigger. It’ll take decades to re-industrialize. China just has to redirect about a quarter of their production to new customers, maybe get into banking/finance to make the sales easier, or start sourcing more inputs from new potential customers and barter with finished goods.
We have no options if we cut them off, and will see runaway inflation and economic disaster. That seems to be coming anyway, and China must see it too, so maybe they’re prepared to shrug off sanctions and just develop new markets, including domestic demand, where they have more than enough market to soak up all the goods, oh, and bring prices down and standard of living up. When you have a billion and a half people, mostly lower to lower-middle income, you have a big opportunity to bring up living standards using excess production capacity. The big mistake on the US/EU side is the belief that they’re “necessary.” That’s hubris and bunk. China likely knows that.
Nice analysis and one worthy of an article in its own right. I agree that China has many economic options not available to the US, especially its huge untapped internal market.
Inept government tends to stir the population to discontent (well, except perhaps in the West), however sanction attacks are different, they are more likely to rally the people around the government and make them more accepting of standard of living drops.
Unless Biden and Co. are working from a brilliant playbook that we are unaware of, then it seems the usual neocon disaster will instead be created. If they seriously want to take on China then imagine hot points to unbalance them will be ignited as well. As usual the US brings the planet nothing but suffering and tears, there is no shining light on the hill, either that or those that tended the flame were long ago ousted.
mr. Johnson – as yu said before if china cuts off our pharmaceuticals and i will also say phones there will be major civil unrest like we have not seen before. perhaps this is bidens plan to further destroy america.
this is off topic- but i think people should know about this as i think it will become the latest scam .
i believe this is the next phase of the agenda to take away all property rights and take total control of the food supply. push us all into these cities which will be like the movie soylent green.
everyone has gotten used to testing and know the test will be the land to show no matter what it is know bad and we have to go live behind a wall.
allot of the alt media is pushing the fear like crazy ; i wish they did a better analysis of what is really going on. i was guilty of that at the beginning as well but have know caught on to it.
“This Is A Land Grab!” Epic Rob Banks Speech Against EPA’s Tyrannical Dioxin Agenda (The New Covid)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jgdl1k2Q2TtT/
https://www.bitchute.com/embed/jgdl1k2Q2TtT/
regards,
ralph
Is Trudeau racist because he is sanctioning China, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Trudeau is such a dullard and a hypocrite, a spineless bastard.
“Invoking racism on an issue of national security and election integrity and then telling journalists their questions should not be entertained is a chilling statement, one well beneath a prime minister. He can defend his government and his MP without resorting to these low-brow bully tactics that tells any reporter asking questions they are a racist.”
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-warns-journalists-that-questions-about-chinas-election-interference-are-racist-and-should-stop
Does Trudeau keep his garbage under lock and key, because it would be really interesting if someone grabbed his DNA and checked it against the Castros.
They DO look so much alike that it’s really spooky.
Let’s review this idea of sanctions and how it works.
Prior to sabotage of Nord Stream nat gas pipeline to EU, the US and EU imposed sanctions on Russia’s exports of oil and grains. At that time, Chinese electric power plants had been the largest customer of US LNG exports. When the EU would no longer receive delivery of nat gas from Russia via Nord Steam, Russia began exporting its natural gas to Chinese electric power plants and the US LNG cargoes began floating off the EUs coastline waiting for the winter temps in the EU to drop which did not happen as this year’s winter was mild.
The temps did not drop, but the global prices for nat gas did. What did this do to the nascent US LNG export plant construction wave? That has also stopped, placing many LNG export projects on hold, as China has become the largest importer of nat gas, but is now getting its nat gas demand filled by Russia. This has diminished demand for domestic nat gas, driving down domestic nat gas prices.
This is driving Russia and China into a stronger partnership, while drying up development of LNG export construction, and the US domestic natural gas producers are beginning to shut down production in response to domestic prices for natural gas dropping from over $10 per mcf in June 2022 to a recent low below $2 per mcf.
A stronger partnership between Russia and China raises global insecurity and threatens teh strength of the US and the EU.
What does this mean for next winter’s heating season? or this summer’s AC season’s demand for electricity? You know how it works….less supply on nat gas when demand increases, translates into higher energy prices.
What does higher energy prices mean for inflation?
The last I checked, higher energy prices drives higher inflation.
I have read recently that the FED’s transitory inflation posture is void as prohibited by the FED’s policy reversal to raise interest rates to suppress inflation.
I may be going out on a limb, but this all leads to higher domestic and global interest rates, a slower US Economy eventually, and terrible pain for people who do not receive support from the stimmee checks from the Gov.
I heard from Santa Claus that rising interest rates are BAD asset pricing and the Easter Bunny’s chocolate eggs will cost more $ this year but those price increase are dwarfed by the rising prices for eggs coming out of chickens, due to the destruction of our domestic flock of chickens dying from … yup, you guessed it….the Asian Avian Flu which is now jumping to infect humans https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/reported-human-infections.htm.
One more thing i am concerned about.
I have been reading about train derailments, and consistently these trains are carrying dangerous cargoes.
What if these derailments are less than serendipititous, and are the craft of teams trained by China to learn how to do derailments as part of a plan to derail the US economy with multiple train derailments during next winter when snow prevents heavy equipment to reach the scene of the tragedy and delays cripple the movement of goods around the US?
Would not that reintroduce the severe supply chain issues which drove inflation up in the first place?
Isn’t our Transportation Secretary on top (of this)?
While we send our Treasure to the Yukees for their funeral, we are leaving bare our security for our future, while Equity transforms air controller towers into unskilled Equity sanctuaries, as well as our surgical centers, teachers, military, law enforcement and the list goes on and on.
Be scared, be very scared
We did the train derailment to ourselves by not investing in infrastructure for decades
Take look at :
https://trainfanatics.com/the-worst-tracks-ever-seen/
I also disagree with Corbett that the food processing plant fires and explosions are a conspiracy – I think the vax is causing too many heart attacks and sudden adult death syndrome (SADS), not just in athletes (on the field on camera), but also in factory workers at work . . . . Still, I have no evidence for this – just a hunch.
But the rash of power station attacks and explosions….. Very suspicious.
e.g., https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/08/us/power-outage-moore-county-investigation-thursday/index.html
It also matches the strategy being employed in Ukraine by Russia.
No western country especially not the US is sending Ukraine military current stock.
They are getting old, surplus or future possible delivery. So security is not affected. The 155 ammo is not used by West and the major ammo supplier to Ukraine is actually South Korea.
The tanks supplies yet to arrive and old or or inferior stock.
The most valuable thing US and UK have given Ukraine is C4ISR and training bases. HIMARS also did pretty good but are getting taken out fairly fast now.
“The 155 ammo is not used by West and the major ammo supplier to Ukraine is actually South Korea.”
What do they fire out of their 155mm howitzers if not 155 ammo? Claiming that South Korea is major supplier would require writing some numbers, because math.
Dalai Lama, so wise and so clueless…
Why would South Korea not make 155?
Do you know what US made howitzers fire?
Do you? Enlighten us, please.
Larry gets so much right. Biden`s policies look insane from my vantage point in central China.
US sanctions would be a blow to western-oriented Chinese enterprises but would accelerate China`s moves to achieve the goals set out in the main political report presented at the CPC congress last fall as well as those set out in the current five-year plan.
All the US moves over the last decade in its pivot to Asia have only encouraged patriotic sentiments. US sanctions would cause pain but would only serve to harden public opinion and the resolve to resist US and western hybrid war. Don`t mess with the dragon, China moves at China speed.
Ironically, after decades of the selfdestruction of the USSR, the real heir for Western rulers it seems be “A Wall”. Almost of those measures, sanctions, climatechange-urges are a way to ensure a new Wall but this time engineered to ‘isolate’ a bunch of People from the Real World. And, Covid19’s has had demonstrate, it works. It works very well.
China’s main imports are in descending order, crude petroleum, integrated circuits, iron ore, cars and soya beans. Exports to the US in descending order are broadcast equipment, computers, integrated circuits, office machine parts and clothing. In 2020 China exported $2.65T and imported $1.55T. https://oec.world/en/profile/country/chn/
China, which has a land border with Russia can import all it’s petroleum products and minerals from Russia. Russia should be capable of supplying their soya bean and mineral requirements if they can’t already. I’m pretty China can build all the cars they need. Buick, Chevrolet, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Nissan, Suzuki, Mazda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Volvo, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes, Renault, Jaguar, Land Rover, and others all have factories there. They know how to build cars in China. Their chip making skills will continue to grow.
The US on the other hand can’t manufacture what it imports from China. It no longer has the manufacturing base or the engineers to build them. It no longer has the education system to train more engineers in sufficient numbers.
More and more countries are turning East (Saudi joining the SCO, I didn’t see that one coming)
I’m not sure what the the US has to offer the world other than threats of violence when it doesn’t get it’s own way and it’s turning out it’s military is a bit of a paper tiger.
Fat lazy and poorly educated America verses a lean, hungry and well educated developed world. On top of that, fat lazy America is rapidly polarising into the obscenely wealthy and the poor and destitute with an rapidly shrinking middle class. This is reflected in a declining life expectancy, a failed education system and an outlandishly expensive health system. It doesn’t help that it has a Supreme Court Judge who admits to not knowing what a woman is even though she is one.
If you want an easy example of a collapsed empire you only have to look to the UK. Bombast and hubris all the way down.
Or more simply once your at the top the only way is down. China appears to be the only exception and that has been a pretty grim journey.
Stop trying to use facts and logic, those are totally failed concepts today that no one uses any more.
The only real question is, do they have enough soical justice, inclusivity and diversity in China? How many Chinese are non-binary? Is drag-queen story hour not yet avalable for Chinese chil;dren?
We need to sacntion them totally until the agree to all these vital reforms. For the health and safety of all concerned, out of an abundance of caution.
Biden & Co need to drum up enough support to at least appear credible in the next rigged Presidential election. That what this is all about.
The scum are trying to act tough and smear China. They think that this will get them say 30% of the vote. They can rig an election with 30%.
Their problem – they continue to assume that there will be no consequences to using China and Russia in this way.
They may be correct.
If I am in Beijing or Moscow, I let Biden & Co stay in power. These idiots are the greatest gift to Russia and China. A gift that keeps on giving.
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The 0.1% and speculation
There is a possibility that the 0.1% have accepted that they can no longer take control of Eurasia and are trying three things.
1. the mutual disentanglement of economy and finances and the consolidation of their domain.
2. the destruction of the domestic economies, on the one hand to concentrate them further in the hands of the corporations and, on the other hand, the implementation of their Great Reset Fascism, in order to prevent any internal resistance from the outset.
3. the struggle for influence in Latin America, Africa and Asia.
What I still can’t figure out is how they are going to keep expanding and escalating the war and at the same time prevent their domain from becoming a radioactive desert where only cockroaches and rats can survive.
Putting all the pieces of the puzzle of information together, the result is ……
a) an escalation of the war against Russia and thus inevitably an expansion of the same to neighboring European countries, which in turn must lead to an expansion to all of Europe;
b) the economic war against China will now experience the same escalation as it was/is already the case against Russia;
c) the military war against China will be triggered by means of Taiwan and in the South China Sea (see Ukraine example);
d) I am sure that war in East and Southeast Asia will lead to unleashing war on the Korean Peninsula, for one thing, and numerous countries will be caught in the maelstrom of this world war. Some willingly, such as Japan and Australia, and others because they will have no choice.
Of course, this will not happen all at once. Not only V. Putin predicted a war that will last many years and who is capable of thinking knows that he and others were not talking about Nazi Ukraine.
How many nuclear powers are then at war with each other? I spare myself now to recount.
The more exciting question is, what will a respective nuclear power do when it faces defeat or even annihilation????
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“What I still can’t figure out is how they are going …”
Of course not – you are enmazed in the “paradigm” of the sole agency myth precluding required facilitity in figuring out, or in, or around, rendering you reliant on assertions such as “and who is capable of thinking knows that he and others were not talking about Nazi Ukraine.”
The war is taking place all over Eurasia. Even if there is not (yet) shooting everywhere.
“The war is taking place all over Eurasia. Even if there is not (yet) shooting everywhere.”
Thank you for your further illustration of “you (being) reliant on assertions such as “and who is capable of thinking knows that he and others were not talking about Nazi Ukraine.” likely as a function of your socially conditioned inherent need to increase the noise/signal ratio by resort to an ultra vires response in hope of obfuscating your inability to interpret or understand the framing, register and contents of:
MirrorGazers says
5 March 2023 at 05:10
which “informs” your hubris and speculation in the framing, register and contents of
heikomr says
5 March 2023 at 02:35
A comment has only the claim to be an opinion. Not necessarily the truth. See my comment as my opinion. You can also continue to harp on the one phrase from my entire post. I grant them their opinion.
RE: heikomr says
5 March 2023 at 12:49
“the one phrase from my entire post.”
No I included all of your post including framing, method, register,and content as a function of your ignorance that “certainty” is the greatest weakness as practiced in some social relations thereby facilitating vectors of transcendence to their opponents as your “opinions/speculations” afforded, and thanked you for your complicity/co-operation/service in your own transcendence whilst increasing noise/signal ratios, even although you may not have perceived it as transcendence.
Try to remember that tourists in a war zone do not tend to enjoy continued well-being, or well, being.
I think your right. Australia probably won’t survive an afternoon against China.
And the citizens can not defend themselves so will quickly be incarcerated into death camps or even shipped to China as labor.
I think Australia like Canada, is too big with too few people and should be broken up into separate states.
“Australia probably won’t survive an afternoon against China.”
Correct, and as China is not a Zionist controlled entity they won’t bomb cities for the fun of it. It will be military targets only.
“And the citizens can not defend themselves so will quickly be incarcerated into death camps or even shipped to China as labor.”
That is clearly rubbish.
Nonsense – Australians are worthless to the Chinese – their country will only be neutralized rendered harmless with the locals left to their own devices unable to participate in any sort of offense against Asia. Raw materials sourced from Australia can be sourced from elsewhere if their future political leadership does not voluntarily become pro China
Projection galore. Just because Native Australians were exterminated by the British, doesn’t mean that everyone else is into doing that stuff.
One can only speculate. I think you can stop your list at a) after that it goes nuclear. If Scott Ritter is proved right The Russians will go from zero to one hundred instantly. If their new ultrasonic missiles and their Poseidon torpedoes are as advertised the US will be a radioactive wasteland. Russia on the other hand, to misquote Buck Turgidson “I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks, we will prevail”
It seems to me that everyone(world “leaders”) is delusional on this point.
Go to any store and try to find anything that is not made in China, Vietnam, Malaysia, India, Bangladesh, Madagascar, or some other SE Asian country. I know Madagascar is African, but you get my point.
Biden and the neocons want war and Trump wants to put tariffs on all goods.
If China decided to just stop exports for two months, half of the businesses in the US would go under. Rural King, Lowes, Home Depot, Walmart.
Meanwhile not one politician will dare talk about the gorilla in the corner. DEBT.
Not Trump, Desantis, McCarthy, certainly no democrat.
It seems to me that if we push China too far and they take things existentially, siege warfare will take on a new definition.
My bloody Samsung smartphone was made in Vietnam. What’s going on here?
well, the US will have its vasalls do the dirty work for them just like with Russia. German government had a “secret” strategy paper ready since last fall or earlier.
I suspect this is another case of killing two birds with one stone: finishing off european economies while messing with the chinese.
I really wonder how much more suffering it will take for the people here in Europe to wake up and take to the streets.
They are taking to the streets, you’re “mainstream media” is not telling you:
https://kolozeg.org/tens-of-thousands-germans-rally-against-arming-kiev-despite-government-blocking-access-roads/?fbclid=IwAR2V9cIbMsjsdZB2jqlRpm2Dnv7BqwIQNnK43DOND0jr4Ux85GFIscZgBVE
https://kolozeg.org/anti-nato-protests-hit-france/?fbclid=IwAR3t6uS8w6V2dkks4f5ULGwbRmJi5CUh57b_iytMCOQ7YcIkvwEJNMGVU4E
I am reminded of the (likely legendary) event recounted by the Greek historian Herodotus (5th century BC), that King Croesus of Lydia consulting the oracle of Delphi about going to war with Persia received the answer that he would “destroy a great empire” should he attack Cyrus, the king of Persia. He did indeed, but the oracle had omitted to tell him that it was his own empire that would be destroyed. Croesus was the almost unimaginably rich king who dominated the region (western Turkey) at the time. Might there be a comparison with the almost unimaginably rich (part of) the US?
Thank you. I always appreciate historical and literary references.
Sanctions against Russia didn’t deter her from military action against Ukraine, but the globalists wanted Russia involved in a war against Ukraine; therefore, the purpose of sanctions was something other than the stated purpose.
The cynical–and generally correct–view on sanctions is that they’re not intended to deter but to force precipitate action by the sanctioned. (Reference US oil embargoes on Imperial Japan.) Russia was well prepared to absorb the impact of sanctions, China less so.
PRC faces a variety of internal crises (largely of the CCP’s own making): economic, demographic, and environmental. Russia only faces a demographic crisis, one far less severe than China’s.
PRC is being offered a clear choice here.
I have a question all those who posted a comment describing the re-technologicalization of America, HOW can America bring back lost industries when the American population is 60% functionally illiterate, they are ignorant, with a below average IQ (not to say below 86) how can America do you hope for reindustrialization when American citizens don’t want to work in factories and plants, when they don’t have inclinations towards STEM, when professional schools are defunct and when ideological indoctrination with Neo-Marxism destroys everything that is good in the US?????
Obviously for the US to “come back” and re-industrialize it would need a properly functioning education system. It doesn’t. The first thing the globalists did in their takeover was to dumb-down the education system, top to bottom.
Is it Chicago, or Baltimore where something like 53 schools don’t have a single student that performs at grade level in English or math? A country with no fully functioning education system that actually teaches kids real subjects like math, physics, language isn’t a world leader and won’t be. It’s getting where there aren’t enough educated people in the US to keep the lights on and the trains running.
The “how” of re-industrialization is fairly straightforward except for the critical component, the “who.” We’re talking decades to solve that one, and we don’t have decades.
“China is more vulnerable than Russia to Western sanctions. Consider the following:”
Try to consider Mr. Rumsfeld’s “unknown unknowns” which are not known in paradigms ?
I had a look at the Xinjiang allegations which are basically all sourced back to Adrian Zenz. Zenz interviewed about a total of 8 people (who can’t keep their stories straight; i.e. training, then next iteration was starving, then next iteration was being force fed pork at a time when there was a pork shortage…, etc.), mistranslated public documents and extrapolated this to the genocide of the Uyghur population. Zenz is crazy guy if you see what he has written about on other stuff but he generates a lot of anti-China stuff which gets recirculated everywhere. Oddly enough, Islamic countries continue to send delegations to Xinjiang and are pleased with the industrialization and development of Xinjiang… Xinjiang, at least parts of it, has been part of China since the Han Dynasty. At the end of the Chinese civil war, it was the Uyghur communists in Xinjiang who opted to rejoin China.
People seem to assume that China is still stuck in the cultural revolution when in reality, it’s the West that is having its own cultural revolution…
They are commiting genocide by building 1776km long high-speed railway. I’m sure people in Ohio are glad not to have one of those around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanzhou%E2%80%93Xinjiang_high-speed_railway
You are sadly mistaken about Zenz. I also am a researcher, and know him personally. His work on Uyghur oppression is accurate. I’ve lived and worked in Central Asia, and the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs is very real
I’ve lived and worked in Central Asia, and the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs is very real
Can’t be any worse than Ukrainian treatment of Russian speakers or al Qaeda/ISIS treatment of Syrians, both under American tutelage.
So, frankly – hollow words that sound like turds.
b from moon of alabama has done a wonderful little summary on the entire affair, including zenz
it’s probably the only genocide in the world where the population increases
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/07/canada-victims-of-communism-and-comparisons-to-a-holocaust.html
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/01/the-number-of-uyghurs-has-trippled-the-us-calls-it-a-genocide-propaganda-fails-to-explain-it.html
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/02/they-dont-only-rape-but-also-bite-all-over-your-body-horror-stories-told-by-chinese-defectors-contin.html
I also am a researcher, and know you personally. You are lying.
ad homin attacks against me make your assertions all the stronger.
BtW, you don’t know me
I have friends who disappeared into the Chinese “training schools” in XJ. Don’t tell me they don’t exist. How many have disappeared, no one knows, but it is quite bad. Is it the worst that has happened around the world, maybe not, but it’s still bad.
Others have friends that disappeared in Donbass, Lybia, Syria, Yemen and many other places where all of the freedom loving researchers have been stirring shit all the time. BTW, in Syria there were/are Uyghurs fighting on the side of US backed terrorists by some magical coincidence (killing friends of others). US people and politicians don’t even give a f#@k about what’s happening in Ohio. Not to mention the fact that no one in The West noticed half a million dead Iraqi kids. Pretending to care about some place no one can pronounce, or point on the map, is stinking all the way to Washington.
Your point is valid. And correct. China has little tolerance for dissent and whether it’s a force for good, not so good or an effective counterbalance remains to be seen. But with West at it’s neck in Taiwan etc, it adds pressure to clamp down on dissent.
you U$A citizens, like us citizens €U don’t count a dick anymore:; When you have to count on a budget of millions of dollars to participate in the presidentials, democracy becomes plutocracy. Your plutocracy like ours go on without us and our “democratic votes”. Your dictators, like ours, answer to the capitalists (oligarchs, financiers, benefactors, lobbyists) who got them elected. On Charon’s boat also boarded religion, media, justice, armed forces, etc…. I hope for Russia, its values and its strength. we will pay hard but fair… Or the planet with all its dickheads will disappear.
Russian journalists are paying lots of attention to the rapid development of drones & anti-drone guns. https://www.kp.ru/daily/27473.5/4729392/
Russia is preparing a surprise drone for spring battles
How can we respond to Ukrainian drone attacks
Ukraine is increasingly arranging drone raids on Russia. First to the Crimea, then to the airfields of our long-range aviation in Ryazan and Engels, then to the oil depot near Tuapse. And one of the Ukrainian drones even flew to Kolomna near Moscow.
What are intimidation attacks? Or probing Russian air defense systems?
In order to understand how we can protect ourselves from drone raids and whether we have something to answer the enemy, KP turned to a professional – the head of the Renovation company, which develops drones, candidate of technical sciences Sergey Tovkach .
THEY ARE COMING TO HAVE A NIGHTMARE
– Let’s see what drones the Ukrainian army has in its arsenal?
– According to various estimates, they have from 30 to 70 Strizh reconnaissance jets. This is a Soviet Tu-141 drone, in which they put a modern stuffing. That is, they changed the autopilot, made it a kamikaze. Its main advantage is that it flies very fast and far, so it is not easy to shoot it down.
But he also has disadvantages – the last blows that they tried to inflict with them ended in the fact that they simply crashed against the trees. In order to fly unnoticed by our air defense radars, they tried to lead them as low as possible to the ground. And there the “forest air defense” worked.
There are also kamikaze drones. These are disposable quadcopters. At first, we underestimated them (by the way, including me), but they turned out to be effective and … terribly cheap – 30 thousand rubles apiece. That is, like two artillery shells. And at the same time, it hits an infantry fighting vehicle, and if you’re lucky, even a tank.
– What about this UJ-22 drone that crashed in the Moscow region?
– It’s a new drone. Completely Ukrainian development. But he (and not only him) has an important point: I saw a lot of wreckage and absolutely all of them have very primitive autopilots, and the drones themselves are built on the basis of components for toys, aircraft models.
– What does it mean?
– These devices cannot fly directly to the target. Ukrainians take aircraft model components. Accordingly, their accuracy of defeat is “plus or minus a bast shoe”.
Also: they can carry a charge of up to 20 kilos. Let’s be honest, such a quantity of even a plastid (one of the most powerful explosives. – Ed.) Can not cause significant damage to any military facility. Or you need to get directly, for example, into the same plane. And here we return to point 1 – accuracy. They don’t have it.
We conclude: today all these raids are for the sake of giving us a nightmare.
“THAT SAME” air defense
– It is believed that these drones can still detect our air defense points?
– Moscow and large cities are protected by stationary air defense – the same Soviet, far-sighted, designed for missiles or American bombers. And if we are talking about new systems of the “Pantsir” type, then they are mobile. They are here today and there tomorrow.
My opinion is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to close their zrada (failure – Ed) in Bakhmut with at least some kind of “victory”.
– How to resist all these raids?
– The first thing to understand is that these raids were not a revelation for our military. We all saw how they prepared.
But it is impossible to close the entire line of contact with Ukraine (we have it 2 thousand kilometers), and even more so the entire border, with the same “Shells”.
Let’s not forget about Ukrainian saboteurs. There is a possibility that they bring small drones disassembled directly by car, then they assemble and launch them.
– Could this UJ-22 be brought in like that?
– He has a take-off weight of 80 kilos, each wing – 2.5 meters. So on some truck – you can.
SHUT IT ALL OUT!
– In addition to the “Shell” and “large” air defense, how else can you fight drones?
– Silencers are very effective. Drones, as a rule, have a very simple control system, there is no protection, so the satellite navigation signal for them is jammed at once.
– How it works?
– There are two ways. The first is signal jamming. That is, the drone receiver stops receiving a signal from the satellite.
The second is signal spoofing. That is, transmitting your signal with “curved” data to the drone receiver. For example, he flies at an altitude of 3 thousand meters, and we give a signal: “You are at an altitude of 10 thousand.” Drone autopilot: “Wow, so we need to descend.” And crashes into the ground. Or you can carefully plant them.
At one time, the Iranians, with the help of our Avtobaza system, landed an American R-71 drone in this way. The Americans thought that the Iranians would never think of such a thing, and did not put up any protection.
– What are these mufflers?
– Depends on power and range. If this is a device for 3-5 kilometers, then it is the size of a gun – a “drono-piercer”.
Now the Ukrainians have “their own development.” Actually imported. Their jammers are placed in the body of a passenger car and cover about 30 kilometers around.
– You can put such jammers at each tank farm or bridge. Countrywide. And forget about drone raids.
– But they also jam the signal for everything around. If one is installed, for example, at a gas distribution station near Kolomna, then the whole city will be left without a radio, without navigators in cars …
– And if you put jammers somewhere in the field?
– Yes. Where we believe something will fly. In this case, all enemy drones can be plopped into the fields.
– Are these mufflers expensive?
– Which fake GPS data – yes. Which simply jam – they are now made even by private traders. Everything that is currently being used is either Chinese or our private Russian developments.
AND THE OLD MAN THROW NEVOD …
– They also say that even an ordinary fishing net is effective against drones.
And they don’t just say that. The trenches of our soldiers are often defended in this way. The network can cause the drone to detonate not at the target, but at a distance. Thereby reducing the effectiveness of the explosion. A drone that gets into the net will not bring much damage.
– On the other hand, you can’t enclose the same tank farm with a grid.
– It’s like trying hard. The Zaporozhye nuclear power plant was shut down. They pulled a net around the hazardous waste storage facility, and the arrivals of Ukrainian drones there stopped. It just became useless.
– How can you completely protect yourself from drones?
– Completely – no. Any air defense, whether domestic or imported, does not bring down everything in the world. Even if we install an air defense network along the entire border, some of the drones will still be able to penetrate it.
See how we use Geranium drones. Near Kiev is the American system Patriot. There are 4 rockets in one installation. That is, she can shoot down 4 “Geraniums”. If 5 flies, then the fifth will definitely pass. Because while they are reloading their Patriot, this “moped” will already fly by. That is why our “Shell” has increased the number of launchers. In general, the effectiveness of drones increases dramatically when they are launched in swarms.
– And these are completely different principles of warfare than before.
– Yes, the special operation in Ukraine turned the idea of battles upside down. We have always been preparing for a high-tech “cyborg war”, building expensive robots, super-cool systems that can penetrate air defenses. But it turned out that it is easier to launch 10 drones for 30 thousand rubles each in the hope that 1-2 of them will slip through. This was a revelation both for us and for our opponents in the West. But now everyone is getting used to it…
NOT “GERANIUM” ONE
– Sergey, what do we have? Here is Geranium. Everyone laughs that a completely primitive drone.
– It’s actually a well-designed device. He has an excellent receiver, satellite navigation, which works not only on GPS – it can receive any channel. It does not have purchased “iron”. And “Geran” is protected from jammers, unlike Ukrainian drones.
– What else?
– There are already a lot of things. And much more will come. Very soon! Our authorities have begun to work very closely with private traders, and right now a lot of “surprises” are being prepared. I cannot name them, I will only say that just a few days ago I considered some of them. And I will tell you that everything is very good there. Highest level!
– You said that at first we underestimated the capabilities of drones. Now it turns out, appreciated?
– There was a big movement in our country a few months ago. But it still takes time to get something out. Nobody sleeps with us. Within a radius of 400 kilometers from Moscow, by region, work is in full swing. Further, I just did not go.
LEARN MATTER
KP military observer Viktor Baranets:
There are tricks against drones
What means of combating drones does the Russian army already have
Anti-aircraft weapons:
– SAM “Buk” (kill zone – up to 70 km, simultaneously fired targets – 36)
– SAM “Tor” (kill zone – up to 16 km, simultaneously fired targets – 4, the number of missiles on the machine – 16)
– ZRPK “Shell” (kill zone – up to 40 km, ammunition – 12 missiles, 1400 cannon shells, capture speed – 10 targets per minute)
Electronic warfare systems:
Passive location complex “Avtobaza-M” (range – 350-400 km),
– anti-drone gun “Zadira” (range of destruction 5 km),
– portable complex “Pishchal-Pro” (suppresses communication channels, control and navigation of the UAV, range – 2 km),
– manual complex “Harpoon-3” (effective against light drones, range 2 – 3.5 km)
– mobile anti-drone system “Protection” (target detection range – 12 km, range of action on its communication channels – 2 km, in development)
– shooting anti-drone complex “Antimaydan-Rubezh” (in development).
Thanks for the post.
Great info , thankyou for sharing it with us and it confirms Russia has a sound plan to deal with effective NATO C4ISR that has delayed Russian advances on a second or third front
When you have to count on a budget of millions of dollars to participate in the presidentials, democracy becomes plutocracy
It’s a big world out there and there are many other countries that could use Chinese manufactured goods to improve their lives.
Plus, many of those countries have actual tradable resources, the US only has containership loads of greenish paper whose value going forward is questionable.
Let’s also not forget that the Chinese workers who man those factories would like to be able to enjoy the fruits of their labor instead of sending it all to the US to piss away. They are or will figure out that the debt will never be repaid.
The cartoon at the top of you piece describes it perfectly.
Bidet and the Democrats are doing damage that cannot be easily or quickly repaired.
I’m thinking it is deliberate because it’s just too damn stupid to be just stupid. But they say never underestimate a Democrat.
It is deliberate – in order to eliminate nation states as independent individuals they must be bankrupted and politically discredited – the World Economic Forum lays it all out. The EU + NATO + 5 EYES nations become one WEF Bio Security Industry ruled technocrat Super State with one Central Bank digital currency and a much smaller population (less than 50 % 2020 levels according to Deagalthe Rockefeller think tank partner). Putin & XI bailed out of the WEF Agenda in their final online speeches to Davos so we have the 1984 2 block senario
The trade numbers are distorted by services vs. goods.
US-China total trade is about $615B
China is currently our largest goods trading partner with $559.2 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2020. Goods exports totaled $124.5 billion; goods imports totaled $434.7 billion.
The U.S. goods trade deficit with China was $310.3 billion in 2020.
Trade in services with China (exports and imports) totaled an estimated $56.0 billion in 2020. Services exports were $40.4 billion; services imports were $15.6 billion.
The U.S. services trade surplus with China was $24.8 billion in 2020.
So $434.7B in goods and $15.6B in services imports vs. $124.5 in goods and $40.4B in services exports.
The services will largely disappear, on both sides, in a trade war.
The goods will simply circumvent through middlemen much like Russian oil, with any excess going to the rest of the world – again much like oil – meaning higher prices for US consumers and slightly lower revenues for China manufacturers – so less inflation in China and more inflation in the US.
That’s winning, right? /sarc
This sanctions game is like “mean girls” in junior high school calling each other names on the playground. The earlier Western naval blockades and gunboats shooting up wharves in the harbors of countries that did not pay their bills harbors were more effective … but then if they did that today it would show their true stripes as colonial powers bent on pillage and plunder.
You already know this … but for the record here’s how Russia easily evades economic sanctions. It’s as easy as 1 2 3:
1. Russian oil is purchased by intermediate countries that either mix it with oil from other sources or process it into diesel or other distillates and then trans-ship the products to the United States and Europe.
2. Western consumer goods are purchased by merchants in intermediate countries and trans-shipped to Russia via trucks along Asian highways rather than being unloaded from shipping containers in St. Petersburg.
Who’s playing a scam on whom? My guess is that the United States and the EU “feel better” about burning “Indian” petroleum products rather than Russian petroleum products. So, in the spirit of the modern Western political and social culture, it seems that it’s all about how one “feels” about something that matters … like throwing a tantrum while hoping that no one notices.
it is also the ”all volunteer” (mercenary) military that allows the USA to do whatever it wants. Imagine the draft, like during the Vietnam War. If there was still a draft, there would be no imperial wars for the American empire because nobody would be interested. The American people have no appetite for war.
Yes, China is winning …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYZ9C4QZWp8
i went to school with Lammert`s son…even his offspring wasn`t the sharpest tool in the box…quite the opposite actually.
So there are two possibilities here: (1) US political elite neocons are intentionally trying to collapse the US Hegemon–in support of some globalist utopia???; (2) US political elite neocons actually believe their sanction and military strategies are “winning” against Russia and will therefore “win” against China thus perpetuating US Hegemony. Does anyone see other reasons why the US is acting so insanely?
I can’t wait to watch this play out…
No, there are far more than 2 possibilities.
My own view is that what we are seeing is the extreme incompetence of Western leaders: lack of touch with reality, arrogance and stubbornness all in one package.
Hey clue says….yeah I agree with your comment but what is their endgame…I mean the “Western leaders” are not just being incompetent for incompetence sake….thoughts?
What exactly does china get for US trade? US dollars to buy US assets like Tbills and stock which will all be seized eventually, so they get nothing, eventually. IMO it’s stupid to trade with USA after what they did to Russia (seizing US assets/reserves) Take the hit now and make stuff for rest of world. Some people say they need tech from West – but no more they lead in tech – seems graduating 20x more engineers than US rather than “political science” or “womens studies” kids major in these days has it’s benefits
““China’s global lead extends to thirty-seven out of forty-four technologies that ASPI is now tracking, covering a range of crucial technology fields spanning defence, space, robotics, energy, the environment, biotechnology, artificial intelligence (AI), advanced materials and key quantum technology areas”
https://www.aspi.org.au/report/critical-technology-tracker
Food? Global south and Russia has plenty of food and if properly managed Africa can grow 8x USAs food.
Nah China does not need USA at all anymore. They just don’t want to take the 5-8 trillion dollar hit in US holdings that would be grabbed in a full blown trade war.
US would have serious issues since almost everything around us is made in China or has parts made in China.
“They just don’t want to take the 5-8 trillion dollar hit in US holdings that would be grabbed in a full blown trade war.”
Certainty is the greatest of weaknesses.
Yes, sanctions will fail both countries economically and fail the US politically. The best way to “sanction” China is to bring back our own industrial base with the emphasis of importing moved to raw materials not finished goods or parts.
“This is not a recipe for peace and prosperity.”
Who said the forces in control of our government want peace and prosperity (except for themselves)?
We can plainly see this is not the case regarding Russia/Ukraine. We spent 20 years in Afghanistan bringing “peace and prosperity”. Let’s not forget Iraq, etc.
Wars and rumors of wars bring trillions more $ into the coffers of our overlords. This is why we endured the Cold War and every war since then. We’ve now come full circle and are in Cold War II.
Gore Vidal explains it, here:
Gore Vidal: History of the National Security State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2aZn6l0tYo
What we have now is the culmination of many decades of the dismantling of the last vestiges of Constitutional government and its replacement by the very forces that it is tasked to control.
As noted in the seminal work, ‘The Power Elite,’ by C. Wright Mills, back in 1956:
“Peace is no longer serious; only war is serious. Every man and every nation is either friend or foe, and the idea of enmity becomes mechanical, massive, and without genuine passion. When virtually all negotiation aimed at peaceful agreement is likely to be seen as ‘appeasement,’ if not treason, the active role of the diplomat becomes meaningless; for diplomacy becomes merely a prelude to war or an interlude between wars, and in such a context the diplomat is replaced by the warlord.”
Since Mills’ time, The Power Elite has become global in scope.
As noted by Professor Peter Phillips:
The financial center of global capitalism is so highly concentrated that less than a few thousand people dominate and control some $100 trillion dollars of wealth.
These few thousand people controlling global capital amount to less than 0.0001 percent of the world’s population. They are the Transnational Capitalist Class (TCC) in what David Rothkopf calls the superclass. David Rothkopf, former managing director of Kissinger Associates, says that the superclass is comprised of 6,000 to 7,000 people. These are the Davos-attending, Gulfstream/private jet–flying, megacorporation-interlocked, policy-building elites of the world—in other words, people at the absolute peak of the global power pyramid. They are 94 percent male, predominantly white, and mostly from North America and Europe…
The TCC are keenly aware of both their elite status and their increasing vulnerabilities to democracy movements and to unrest from the masses. The military empire dominated by the US and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) serves to protect TCC investments around the world. Wars, regime changes, State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADS), and military occupations are performed in service of empire to support investors’ access to natural resources and protect global capital.”
https://www.projectcensored.org/911-permanent-war-transnational-capitalist-class/
We can plainly see that in order to prevent “unrest from the masses”, the propaganda machine has kicked into overdrive. From 9/11 and wild-eyed Islamic terrorists with “WMDs” to the “pandemic” that had us locking ourselves up in our homes and allowing ourselves to be injected with experimental gene therapy drugs, we are daily treated to increasingly fantastic and frightening tales – lately of UFOs and other assorted hogwash – and warned of the “threat” posed by China and Russia.
What is the ultimate plan for the pesky unwashed masses?
A return to feudalism and slavery.
How Elites Will Create a New Class of Slaves | Whitney Webb | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-d3jFIGxdQ
When has a US Treasury Secretary done what Yellin did by travelling to Ukraine?This is a serious question: Is Yellin the shadow President?
Is there any evidence that sanctions even work to achieve America’s stated objectives?
For example, have sanctions on Cuba made it into a Jeffersonian democracy? Or has it just made the normal people’s lives more miserable while the elite live mostly unaffected?
Those that believe in their own exceptionality don’t care much about evidence.
Nothing surprises me with the Biden crew. Maybe they will declare war on the Muslim world(religion) too. Everyone can join in nuking us.
They act like anyone not in their circle is beneath them not deserving of respect.
“They act like anyone not in their circle is beneath them not deserving of respect.”
That has been a component/practice of “American exceptionalism”internally and externally from inception, as outlined by documents produced by by The Russian Federation and The People’s Republic of China, which “The United States of America” being un-United seek to convince others to interpret as:
“Everyone can join in nuking us.”
given
“”They act like anyone not in their circle is beneath them not deserving of respect.”
“Maybe they will declare war on the Muslim world(religion) too.”
They already did since communication presents in many forms and on almost everyone else who is not themself (singular) not themselves (plural) not being an option since “competition” is endemic; “The United States of America” being a state of comprehensive mutual alienation by design and re-enforcing practice – recent documents issued by The People’s Republic of China in respect of gun crime being initial public remarks upon such re-enforcement .
“We will certainly continue to make clear… what the rules are regarding our sanctions” — this arrogant fat lady represents all that’s wrong with the West. She and her buddies still don’t realize that they can’t order people around as though they were the only game in town. After 1991, the US had a once-in-a-lifetime chance to herald in an era of world peace and prosperity. But the avaricious, demented and totally evil Clintons made sure the West took the path of power, hegemony and war instead. What a sad legacy for the “greatest country on earth.”
Oh the bullshit of the British mod https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64855760
You can’t make that up
This is beyond Monty Python. At least we know that someone in UK’s Ministry of Defence have actually read a book about WWI, or at least played a game.
“The ministry did not give information on where such battles were taking place.”
I know. It was Verdun.
The only thing more embarrassing than fighting with shovels in 21st century, is losing a town to someone attacking with them.
Sanctioning China may be the straw that breaks Europe’s back. The last nail in their coffin of compliance with the wishes of their DC and Belgium masters.
But…I am reminded of a man with a mind, a mind stronger than that of our fearless leader…Der Biden, and what he would have said….
“Stupid is as stupid does”
Taiwan exports nearly 49 percent of their products to China mainland and Hong Kong, the bulk of the remainder go to other Indo-Asian countries and the remainder to world wide. The Taiwan imports from China are along the the 49 to 51 percent lever. Neither nation really wants to ruin that level of commerce.
I see a better chance of the Taiwan military and China friendly members of the Taiwan government taking action to remove the US NGO and associated Western oriented trouble makers. China will then attempt to force the UN to restrain the U.S. based on the fact the U.N. has recognized Taiwan as a province of China. Of course, the U.N. attempt will fail because the U.S. does what the U.S. wants to do. But, China wants to very clearly state to the world that Taiwan is recognized as a province of China…this they will likely do prior to military action. A bit like Putin giving the west all the rope it needed to hang itself.
We’re seeing the version of the schoolyard bully’s last stand as a few decide they’ve had enough. The US is the bully, Russia the smaller, scrappy kid that’s tougher than he looks, China the big kid that smiles all the time, India, the second biggest kid that the bully’s trying to get to help him, and Iran, the brooding kid who’s been the victim the longest.
The smart thing would be for the bully to just walk away, but he can’t, he’s too stupid, so he’s going to end up going home with a black eye, fat lip, and maybe missing a few teeth. At the end of the day, he’s finished as everybody will see how vulnerable he is if only a few stand together.
Right now the process is at the “black eye” stage and getting worse. While in the process of losing the fight the bully is trying to threaten his way out. It’s pathetic. It’s already over, he’s lost, and he’s too stupid or full of himself to either know or accept it.
Elderly wanker instructs foreign nation about being bad children, is ignored. Wanker makes cookies with poison for the naughty boys and girls.
It appears the Ukraine will need a new name as the investors have purchased the farmland and divided it up. (C.A. Fitts) How much Bill Gates has purchased? Now we see where President Z gets his money. He is the only licensed real estate agent in what was the Ukraine
Ukraine is a money laundering state. Everything is for sale. The depravity isn’t at the drag show this time.
> “Instead of confining sanctions to the human rights issues”
i think you mean: “instead of inventing human rights issues”.
Every nation targetted with the cover of “human rights” issues has been morally superior to the USA (the test being behavior in reality, not imagination)
Of course sanctions against China will backfire. Even if they hurt far more than the sanctions against Russia there is no way they will destroy China. Since that is the primary goal they must ultimately fail. The maxim from Nietzsche comes to mind: “What doesn’t destroy me makes me stronger.” That will definitely apply in the case of sanctions against China. Sanctions are necessarily a two way street and in the case of an economy as large as China’s, significant blowback is inevitable, especially in Asia. It is in Asia that the US is still assembling its coalition to confront China. Unlike the situation with Ukraine where a coalition to confront Russia was already in place after being assembled for 30 years, the coalition against China is still a work in progress and could fall apart before hostilities over Taiwan even start. I realize these ideas are thoughtcrimes in Western think tanks but I would like to know what evidence there is to prove me wrong.
I have followed you Larry for some time now along with MoA, Dances with Bears and others. I live in NW BC Canada and was the editor and publisher of the Terrace Daily, Rupert Daily, Kitimat Daily and started a few other local media. I come at this comment from years of exposing much by true “investigative” reporting. To this topic in particular, Chinas infiltration of our British Columbian Crown ministries by following the bread crumbs left by the Director of CSIS, Richard Fadden in 2010.
Today in Canada, a full dozen years after I was threatened by our government for naming these Chinese operatives holding the most senior roles in forestry and energy mines and resources policy decision making, our main media is now talking about Chinese election interference. To me this is laughable. They have been running Canada by the backdoor likely for decades. It does not matter who is elected, our national policies our already controlled. The dramatic flourishes of threats, insults, taunts and mediocre actions are pure theatre for the masses.
In 2012 the former director of the IMF convinced all member countries to sign an agreement with China to allow that countries senior membership status and their monetary contributions. The agreement was written by China. The same happened in Canada when our former Prime Minister, Harper, signed the Foreign Investment Protection Agreement (FIPA). A one sided agreement which allowed China to bring military hardware onto our soil to “protect” their investments. Harper likely never read the agreement designed for him. Only Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party actually exposed the agreement.
So when I see these comments about Biden threatening China etc, I think back to the last USA election when many were discussing his and Hunters ties to China. Suddenly we’re expected to believe they are adversaries? More theatre for the masses.
If one looks at the administrative control China has taken across the globe one must recognize the brilliant play at the Art of War. Friends with everyone while they infiltrate everything.
I believe the Uke conflict is doing exactly what it was designed to do. Distract all from the masterful work going on behind the scene. Yes the west’s economy will be broken, but more than that, the loss of all individual and national sovereignty will be completed. The WEF plan is Chinas plan. No dissent and no individual rights.
One thing threatened this plan, Canadian truckers at Parliament hill in minus 40 degree weather. Across the globe similar “stop this mandate autocracy” convoys flying Canadian flags began. The next week the SMO in Ukraine started after the AZOV’s were ordered to start attacking the Donbass in earnest. Seems to me a prepared set up. Within days everyone dropped the unifying Canadian flags of civil dignity for the Uke flag of idiocy.
The Psy-Ops work miraculously.
Again a drone report, this time from Russian RT https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/1119266-mikro-bpla-shmel-novosibirsk
“There are no effective means of interception”: the developer talks about the advantages of the Russian Shmel micro-drone
The production of a prototype of the Russian Shmel microUAV for the needs of special forces of the Russian Federation will be completed in the summer of 2023. Denis Kotin, head of the Competence Center for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles at NSTU NETI, spoke about this in an interview with RT. According to him, this drone, due to its noiselessness and stealth, is able to examine places potentially dangerous for military personnel, including narrow enclosed spaces like tunnels and basements. In addition, as the developer emphasizes, there are practically no effective means of interception against such drones as the Bumblebee.
— What is the Shmel micro-drone? At what stage of creation is it?
“Bumblebee” is one of the promising projects of the Competence Center for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles of the Novosibirsk State Technical University (NSTU NETI). This is a helicopter-type micro-drone, made according to the classical scheme with main and tail rotors.
To date, the layout has been made. In June-July, we should receive a prototype UAV, which will be demonstrated to potential customers. According to our calculations, its mass will be 85 g, the flight speed will reach 25 km/h, and the flight range will be up to 1–2 km.
“Bumblebee” will become the carrier of a video camera that will transmit real-time images to the operator’s console. And the darkness will not become a hindrance, since the camera will be able to work in the infrared range.
The remote control itself can be made in the form of a smartphone with software (application) installed on it. You can also use a tablet to control small drones with a separate communication channel with a micro-unmanned helicopter.
The launch of the “Bumblebee” can be carried out from any surface, including from the hand. The device will be powered by lithium-ion batteries that transfer energy to the propellers. The UAV kit will include three replaceable batteries that can be recharged at a portable charging station.
– What functionality will the “Bumblebee” have?
– It is mainly intended for surveying hard-to-reach and dangerous territories and structures for humans. “Bumblebee” will fly at low altitude and “examine” the surrounding space. In combat conditions, these can be enemy positions on the ground and inside buildings. Our main customers, we believe, may be special services and special forces, including the RF Armed Forces.
As world experience shows, the range of application of microhelicopters can be very wide. This includes reconnaissance, target designation, and the detection of hazardous substances. Definitely, microdrones will come in handy in battles in urban environments.
– Why can’t the quadrocopters that have become familiar be used for these tasks? They are also quite small, maneuverable, can hover over the enemy and be launched from any surface…
– Each type of UAV performs its specific functionality. A quadcopter (like the ubiquitous DJI and Mavic) is mainly needed for a bird’s-eye view of the terrain – for example, to “look” over a hill or forest.
Silence and stealth are important advantages of the Bumblebee and other micro-drones. Such “birds” are practically invisible, and there are no effective means of interception against them. This implies another advantage of them – the absence of the need to protect the radio channel.
At the same time, as practice shows, quadrocopters are well visually distinguishable and quite noisy at low altitudes. Fighting them, of course, is not an easy task, but they often become victims of the effects of electronic warfare, including portable anti-drone guns .
Russia understands the importance of simplifying reconnaissance through the use of various types of drones, including microdrones. For example, open sources have already reported plans to integrate such UAVs into the equipment of a soldier of the future. This is a perfectly justified approach.
— An analysis of open data allows us to conclude that microdrones have been produced abroad for a long time. Moreover, Western countries promised to transfer such devices to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Did you build on foreign experience when developing the Bumblebee?
“Of course, we have carefully analyzed the array of information on helicopter-type microUAVs, got acquainted with the device and flight capabilities of analogues. This allowed us to formulate the key requirements for the “Bumblebee”, to determine its design features.
I can say that the closest analogue of our microUAV is one of the Western drones, which is produced in various modifications. I would not like to get ahead of myself, but with the solution of a number of problems, not only we, but also other Russian organizations will be able to produce very worthy models in this segment of unmanned vehicles.
— What is the complexity of your design task?
– The most difficult thing is to make suitable elements for the “Bumblebee” in the given miniature sizes and with the necessary characteristics, as well as to synchronize the operation of all nodes and systems.
– If everything goes well, will you be able to resolve the issue with the availability of components?
— The production of micro-helicopter technology requires specific equipment and apparatus. However, we can resolve this issue. NSTU NETI has well-established partners who can supply the products we need. However, they are unlikely to cover all the needs for Shmel, so we are consulting with other organizations that can become suppliers.
Against the backdrop of Western sanctions and the policy of import substitution, the situation in the industry is improving, albeit not as quickly as we would like. Nevertheless, we have confidence in the possibility of setting up the production of “Bumblebee” with components, the vast majority of which will be Russian.
Trump Admin. did as much International damage as Biden Admin
China Tarriffs-“China Virus”…
Withdrew: JCPOA…INF..Open Skies…Lethal Weapons to Ukraine..squashed NK deals…bombed Syria..Sent Lethal weapons to Yemen… Assassinated Solomeni… Recognized Golan Height/ Moved Embassy… in other words, all PREP for Joe Biden continuity … they are all pieces of *h*t serving one master… the Federal Reserve…and their corporate pay masters. Go ahead… Sanction China… the USA end can’t come soon enough.
“the USA end can’t come soon enough.”
“The United States of America” are a network of coercive social relations and practices not restricted to a land mass/temporary political construct with Canada to the North and Mexico to the South with some characteristics you probably illustrate – impatience – and hence practices can perceived as having long half-lives, and hence a component of why the attempts at “colour revolutions” by “The United States of America” were never successful.
Hence it likely that their necessary transcendence can’t come soon, but an ongoing lateral process of mutual acceptance and benefit.
i say the total downfall of the west is a given at this point.
shareholder-value system led to total outsourcing of 99% of manufacturing industries-across the board…
i`m actually just watching this “project farm” channel on youtube- guy tests consumer goods- 99% made in CHINA.
This is irreversible at this point- which makes me actually worried, given the mindset of the Zionists running the west…
duck and cover.
I’m about to replace the central air conditioning system in my home, though my existing system might have a few years left. I’m going to do so while I still can. If we get in a serious sanctions war with China, good luck with replacing your air conditioning, kitchen appliances, solar panels, or a vast array of other types of machinery and equipment that we no longer make here, and may no longer be able to get from Germany, either. We will be shooting ourselves in the foot, just as Europe has done with regard to Russia, and their suicidal policies are going to cripple the worlds #2 industrial powerhouse, Germany. Maybe India will pick up the slack — in a few years.
The sanctions will backfire because the day of the Consumer is over and the day of the Producer is dawning. The Consumer has had but one card to play, namely coercion and that card has been trumped.
The world’s Producers know it, and they’re gonna do everything to make sure it stays trumped.
…and the reason the consumer even had a card is called ‘credit’. Without the easy access to credit cards, the American economy would have never moved from an industrial-manufacturing economy to a consumer-service economy. It looks to me like the credit will be drying up soon enough. The move by Russia and others to reduce or stop trading in the U.S. dollar, to bypass SWIFT, to go to a gold backed economy, getting rid of U.S. debt bonds, and more have enabled the impending doom of the U.S. economy…and for most of Europe as well.
It is revealing to look at all the software that is sold by different companies to different industries , for example health care. There are competitors in patient management, billing, and medicaid/ medicare reimbursement, doctor’s notations, prescription tracking.
Lots of data is churned to what end.
it is sold under blanket of efficiency/productivity.
Seems like a shell game. Lots of money paid out in fees and salaries to buy Teslas, TV’s/ solar, drugs, booze.
Guess lack of cash flow will squeeze out the losers and employees
move on to wagering, porn industries…..
On the flip side of the coin, read some while back the amount of western foreign investment into China is almost the same amount of what China has outside of it’s borders. It’s going to be a massive war and reset of capital, in which everyone will be poorer of, Taiwan island will be reunited to the mainland, and if we manage to avoid a nuclear war is unclear.
If China’s annual exports are approx. $3.5Trillion globally then, if the magical sanctions ended all trade to the US & EU tomorrow, losing about $1Tr, it means that they’ll have to make do with the remaining $2.5Tr exports to the rest of the “reality based” world which has no interest in supporting the USofA’s latest warmongering .
Chairman Xi could respond, as Churchill said of Herr Schicklbruber’s threat to strangle Britain like chicken, “An island of coal in a sea of fish – some chicken, some neck!”
People appear to be confusing sanctions and tariffs.
Both Xi and Trump had tariffs on numerous products. Many countries use tariffs to protect their own industries or counter other countries tariffs. We still do and so does China.
I dont think the US and England are planning to make their own goods-maybe select products –they are counting on other countries like Mexico, Vietnam and Guatemala to manufacture more. It might be beneficial if there were more jobs south of the border.
Great piece. A few comments.
You state- ‘The United States has been on a collision course with China for more than two years thanks to Joe Biden.’ While Joe Biden has certainly ratcheted up tensions between the US and China, one could argue that Biden’s foreign policy, including relations with China are largely a continuation of Trump’s policies.
1. In Dec, 2017, then President Donald Trump announced the US embassy in Israel would be relocated from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem (Al Quds), describing the move as “a long-overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement.” The fundamental problem with this is that Jerusalem does not belong to Israel (or Washington) and thus, was a blatant violation of international law, just as the building of Israeli settlements on occupied land. Our Embassy remains in Jerusalem and I have not seen any attempt by the Biden administration to move the Embassy back to Tel Aviv.
(See- The controversial US Jerusalem embassy opening, explained- As the embassy event took place, Israeli soldiers killed dozens of Palestinian protesters along the Gaza border. By Alexia Underwood Vox May 16, 2018; https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trump; Status of Jerusalem United Nations 1997; https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/The-Status-of-Jerusalem-Engish-199708.pdf)
2. On May 8, 2018 President Trump ended US participation in the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA; Iran nuclear deal) and re-imposed sanctions lifted under the deal. During the 2020 Presidential campaign, Joe Biden criticized Trump for exiting the deal, telling voters he would ‘revive’ the 2015 agreement. Not only has Biden made no effort to come to an agreement with the Islamic Republic of Iran, he has ratcheted up tensions, constantly threatening Iran either directly of via our proxy Israel.
3. In 2018, President Trump initiated a trade war with China, placing tariffs on $50 billion of Chinese-made goods and subsequently adding additional duties on more Chinese products, amounting to tariffs on $350 billion of Chinese goods. Biden has not removed these tariffs. (See- Why Biden is keeping Trump’s China tariffs in place. By Katie Lobosco, CNN Jan 26, 2022; https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/china-tariffs-biden-policy/index.html#:~:text=Former%20President%20Donald%20Trump's%20controversial,on%20some%20American%2Dmade%20products). It appears that Biden is going a step further, actively preparing for war with China.
4. In Dec, 2017, President Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) into law, that would bring ‘sweeping changes to the tax code’. Similar to prior tax cuts by Reagan and Bush II, this legislation was a windfall for the financial elite, transferring more of the tax burden onto working people. As you are well aware, throughout his circa 50 years of ‘public service’ Joe Biden never saw a corporate/bank interest or war he did not support. I have not heard one comment from the Biden administration about reversing any of these tax cuts. I wrote about this awhile back (See- US economic decline and global instability Jan 19, 2021 The Saker Blog; https://thesaker.is/us-economic-decline-and-global-instability).
To quote former British statesman/PM Lord Palmerston (1784–1865) ‘We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.’
You might want to check out this book- The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government by David Talbot, 2016 (Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard-Dulles-Americas-Government/dp/0062276174).
Laugh of the Day:
Russian reservist are using shovels to fight as they have no ammunition.
BBC
The Russians are using those shovels to scrape away the Western piles of bullshit.
“I’m personally affected because I have an account with HSBC in Shanghai. I can’t get my money out. The government is restricting the flow of money out of the country,” Mobius said on Thursday on the Fox Business show “Mornings with Maria”. “So I would be very, very careful investing in China,” the founder of Mobius Capital Partners said.”
This is an outright lie. An associate has an HSBC account in China and from that account he has other HSBC accounts in Western countries (i.e. Canada, Mexico). HSBC is a “British Bank” and using the HSBC “Global Transfer” option, he can move money to any other account.
https://www.hsbc.ca/international-services/global-view-and-global-transfers/
Thanks for exposing these lies. The writer of the misinformation should be banned
China must realize that their $1 trillion holdings of US Treasury bills are not backed by any real assets and their only possible use might be to gift them to Africa and other IMF debtor nations who can use them to reduce their US$ debts. Chinese individuals and businesses with assets in the West must anticipate the Taiwan narrative is a pretext to seize their assets in bankrupt Western lands just as Russian State and personal assets were seized in 2022. The size of the Chinese 5th column penetrates deeper than the excised Russian one with CDC Chief Gao in particular on board the Bill Gates WHO bio security pharma cartel eugenics train. Hopefully Xi gets his daughter home from USA and takes Putin´s view that those who lose assets outside China had 2022 and early 2023 to get them home safe to Asia probably deserved to lose them as at least unpatriotic or perhaps justice served by fate on the corrupt
I guess Dopey Joe got Sholz on message last week.
“The German chancellor says Beijing will face “consequences” if it sends arms to Moscow”
The funniest thing I’ve read in weeks, a report on RT that Scholz the Weakling is threatening China. https://www.rt.com/news/572513-scholz-china-consequences-ukraine/
What’s he gonna do – get the Kreigsmarine to send a gunboat up the Yangtze?
Sanctions shmanctions… it’s the international relations equivalent of calling someone names on the far side of a high fence because they’re too spineless to confront them in person to give ’em a smack in the mouth.
As Larry mentioned, sanctions are a two edge sword. Trump found out the hard way that banning the sale of Qualcomm chips to Huawei hurt Qualcomm as well as China. Similarly, banning the sale of 3 nm chips and chip making equipment to China seriously harms the companies that manufacture it. But in this case, those companies hurt most are not US companies. This is creating suspicion in countries friendly to the US is doing far more than penalize China. The sanctions are seriously harming their own companies, and are expected to help the US achieve industry domination at their own expense.
Would Biden do a thing like that? I’m reminded of the old adage: Actions speak louder than words.
For all the problems with the US, let’s not forget that what the US ultimately stands for is freedom for the individual, and humanity. Noble truths and progress are our bounty shining a golden light from the tallest mountain on the world. If we stumble at times it is only because of our ambition and hopes for a better world.
But somewhere, there is a young trans child. Maybe can’t even speak yet. Only here are we ready to reach out and help that child express their authentic self. We have teachers, therapists, and medical doctors looking for those trans kids, maybe they don’t even realize their trans yet, helping them find their way. Helping them fight their well-intended but often socially backward parents who don’t understand the precious flower that is their child. The US government is about supporting this child, and I am right there with them on that. It’s beautiful, and I will be in the front row shoving dollars in their G-string at their drag kid stage debut. I love these kids! Go USA!
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True.
The most inept, morally bankrupt, corrupt and downright stupid US administration I have seen in my lifetime of almost 59 years. After being an executive for 15 years and a design engineer & manager for the other 15 in telecommunications, I gradually realized that competence does not rise to the top. Psychopathy rises to the top in many large organisations, and nowhere is it more evident than in North America (excluding Mexico) and Europe. These people are disgustingly greedy AND stupid human beings. Having worked with a few true geniuses in my time, I can tell you there’s no genius evident in Western policy. We’re doomed to be third world countries with banning hydrocarbons and sanctioning the ROW. Incredible stupidity.
Scum tend to accumulate on the top.
china may have their own problems. imagine putin would be well aware of them as well
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/protests-break-out-chinese-cities-are-buried-under-10-trillion-debt
The Secret Behind China’s Ghost Cities
https://www.bitchute.com/embed/5fvkKDuOYdhH/
mr. johnson- this may affect you depending on what he does
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/why-desantis-cant-announce-presidential-run-yet
clownworld
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-intelligence-now-says-pro-ukraine-possibly-government-trained-mystery-forces