Monday’s big news that COVID came from a Chinese bio weapons lab and not a wet market offering tasty morsels of bat meat and pangolin tenders has been greeted by some with justifiable skepticism. Bernard at Moon of Alabama, for example, is certain that this is just a propaganda move by the U.S., which is trying to whip up public support for an eventual war with China.
Bernard may be correct that this public reversal of the narrative regarding China, from exculpation to blame, is a consequence of growing tensions with Beijing, it does not mean that the claim is false. Here is the truth — the United States and China bear joint responsibility for the creation of COVID. The research started in the North Carolina lab of Ralph Baric and then moved to China thanks to funding from Dr. Anthony Fauci’s section of the National Institutes of Health. The MIT Technology Review lays it out in detail. Here are the highlights:
In 2013, the American virologist Ralph Baric approached Zhengli Shi at a meeting. . . Shi had detected the genome of a new virus, called SHC014, that was one of the two closest relatives to the original SARS virus, but her team had not been able to culture it in the lab.
Baric asked Shi if he could have the genetic data for SHC014. “She was gracious enough to send us those sequences almost immediately,” he says. His team introduced the virus modified with that code into mice and into a petri dish of human airway cells. Sure enough, the chimera exhibited “robust replication” in the human cells—evidence that nature was full of coronaviruses ready to leap directly to people.
While Baric’s study was in progress, the National Institutes of Health announced that it would temporarily halt funding for “gain of function” research—experiments that make already dangerous viruses more virulent or transmissible—on SARS, MERS (which is also caused by a coronavirus), and influenza until the safety of such research could be assessed. The announcement brought Baric’s work to a standstill.
In a potentially fateful decision, it funded work similar to Baric’s at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which soon used its own reverse-genetics technology to make numerous coronavirus chimeras.
Unnoticed by most, however, was a key difference that significantly shifted the risk calculation. The Chinese work was carried out at biosafety level 2 (BSL-2), a much lower tier than Baric’s BSL-3+.
Former Admiral John Kirby, now masquerading as the spokesman for the National Security Council, falsely claimed that there is no consensus in the intelligence community about the origin of the COVID virus. Nonsense. The evidence is there to support a consensus, but political considerations are preventing some key agencies from admitting the truth. There is indisputable evidence thanks to information provided by at least two defectors with direct ties to the Wuhan Lab (whose bona fides have been verified) that proves the COVID virus was created in the Wuhan Lab and escaped because of sloppy handling.
When Donald Trump was President, officials from the NIH, FDA and CDC insisted publicly that it did not originate in a lab. Fauci, who is implicated in the cover up, blamed the Chinese wet market. He and others were covering up their own complicity in funding and facilitating the research in China that produced the lethal virus.
China, for its part, also engaged in a cover up. Chinese officials were loathe to admit that incompetent lab security created a global pandemic. Denying that fact was critical for China in order to try to protect its international image. Admitting that kind of error would mean a tremendous loss of face for the Chinese nation. I am pretty sure that Xi Jinping and his national security team believed China could avoid that fate because they believed that the number of prominent people in the United States, like Fauci, who also were implicated in the creation of this deadly virus would provide some insurance from the truth being revealed.
Too bad for China. It is learning the hard lesson that counting on greedy, guilty American scientists and a Biden Administration desperate to shift the focus from the impending debacle in Ukraine is a lousy insurance policy. The Biden Administration is once again displaying its incredible incompetence. Admitting, albeit reluctantly, to China’s partial responsibility for the creation and release of the COVID virus, is adding fuel to a raging fire that is portraying China as America’s number one enemy. This thing is taking on a life of its own and will ignite an equally harsh reaction by the Chinese Government.
Put yourself in the position of Xi Jinping. You know that the virus that started the global pandemic was leaked accidentally from your lab. But you also know that the Americans, including the eminent Dr. Fauci, helped fund the research. Yet only your country is being blamed. Would that give you a case of the red ass? I think so. What the Biden Administration is doing is dangerous and short sighted. Exclusively blaming China is going to strengthen the resolve of China to align itself more closely with Russia and be less cooperative with the United States.
I’m not so sure. Ron Unz makes a good point in his article where he talks about the Defense agency report that went around early on before the Chinese or anybody knew there was a virus loose. If it was an accidental release, how would they know that a virulent disease was on the loose in Wuhan before the Chinese did ? No, like he says, I think they knew, like he says how arsonists know where the next fire will be. I believe he mentions the Israelis also mentioned that report.
I am inclined to this view. While Chinese incompetence is certainly plausible, it is that very plausibility that makes them good patsies. (good reputation for intelligent work, yes / good reputation for attention to detail work, no) The globalists NEEDED a pandemic, not only to create chaos preparatory to beginning their transformation project in earnest, but to stop Pres. Trump.
There is no question that the globalists and their leftist handmaidens were DESPERATE during the early Trump administration. He was making astonishing progress in record time putting America onto a different course in the face of united opposition from both the Democratic and Republican factions of the uniparty, upsetting decades of oligarch investment in reshaping the world.
The question is, why this story and why now?
The answer is that there are elements in the US establishment that are in a virtual panic to start a war with China. They need it like yesterday.
They now see their intended strategy of first weakening Russia before getting to China as a mistake. The window in which to try to sink China’s rise to no. 1 is rapidly closing, and they find they have wasted precious time over Russia and have inadvertently weakened themselves.
Any further delay in this war works to the disadvantage of the US war-hawk, Sinophobe hegemonists. They are now frothing, wetting and soiling themselves in war frenzy.
My take also.
Thanks for bringing us back on topic.
If this fervor-whipping follows previous patterns, we’ll see Xi start to to become demonized…Chinese president to strongman to dictator. Maybe we’ll also get some Nayirah testimony (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony). We all know how Chinese soldiers like to rip premies out of incubators and leave them to die.
Thing is, I just don’t see the Establishment being very successful in expanding the Hate China Club beyond those countries that currently support the war in Ukraine. And these countries only hold ~13% of world population ( the golden billion). Which makes me wonder what kind of desperate false flags the Establishment may try to come up with to drive the Global South to ostracize and alienate China.
As you were saying:
https://quillette.com/2023/03/01/the-nature-of-the-beast/
–>”The question is, why this story and why now?”
Distraction and deflection from whatever else going on where shedding any light would demonstrate govt incompetence. It’s a long list, so whack-a-mole is a game for the media and public to chase. But the main event is to pick a bogeyman to blame, keep up the finger-pointing, and let the mob take over to dish out the retribution.
Let’s face it–no govt or official body has been interested in finding the source of the virus (they can’t control what indiscretions are uncovered), it’s been entirely about finding someone to blame.
Agreed, Elial, with the proviso that weakening Russia wasn’t planned for, the opportunity presented itself after Putin special operation, they took it without thinking hoping Russia will fold up quickly what with the 1418 sanctions and stuff, she didn’t, shows no signs of collapsing hence the shift of emphasis towards China where they have a couple of years before the middle Kingdom exceeds the US capability in things military.
Weakening Russia is *EXACTLY* what was planned.
Here’s the playbook: “Extending Russia | Competing from Advantageous Ground”
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html
“Key Findings
Russia’s weaknesses lie in the economic domains
* Russia’s greatest vulnerability, in any competition with the United States, is its economy, which is comparatively small and highly dependent on energy exports.
* The Russian leadership’s greatest anxiety stems from the stability and durability of the regime.
The most promising measures to stress Russia are in the realms of energy production and international pressure”
Read it. And see the Ukraine war is *exactly” as planned.
I think you’re on the right track here. The contracts with the Wuhan lab set them up as the fall guy and gave three letter agencies a degree of access to the lab to see whatever else they could find out.
One could make a case that the plandemic was brought forward to destroy the Trump administration. Testing on humanised mice may have indicated a far more dangerous virus than the one they got, because most humans have some cross-immunity from exposure to other corona virii. Covid was a dud, most people in reasonable health got a runny nose and sore throat, then got better.
There are plenty of others digging up evidence of DoD and other US based entities funding, conducting and coordinating this research. How come Moderna had a patent for a covid vaccine before covid was isolated in China? Whatever happened to all those folks mysteriously afflicted with vaping disease in the US in 2019? Did everybody stop vaping and it magically went away?
Why China, why now? Making it easier to get the American people and their Western allies all aboard the Orient Express for a war with China, as their current one in Ukraine is going so well…
” Leftist handmaidens”? I don’t know why you guys think there are any leftists in US politics. You have ultra right and hard right. You don’t know what “leftist” is. Certainly nowhere to be seen in the USA.
@Jon Liddle
They are so extremist as ignorant. Anything that does not suit their view of the world? Woke, lefty …
” He (Trump) was making astonishing progress in record time putting America onto a different course ”
They are sooo tender …
I remember here was research into seasonal flu statistics in Italy that shown unusually bad and virtulent one few months before bad news from Wuhan.
I also know medic spouses, today mostly salesmen for medical equipment, who were visiting Mongolia August to October (not remember exactly) before the outbreak news. They brought home some unusually bad flue, and today they think it was it before the name and publicity was given.
Xi (I think him) made a point of USA sailors visiting Wuhan and there were if I remember, some irregularities with that visit eerily explainable retroactively. Buy maybe not, I don’t readily remember details. This was, however, the standing China used to demand full disclose from US deceases controlling agency.
So, if the lab leak happenned – WHEN exactly and HOW exactly it happenned?
If lab safety was hapless, then virus could even move backwards, from outer world into the lab.
Or someone could intentionally sneak it out, Resident Evil like, and then use lesser safety for plausible deniability.
Basically we know here that
1. Wuhan lab was working on this or similar virus for American money.
2. Wuhan lab had lesser documented safety standard than one American lab.
We don’t know if that safety was, in fact, “not enough”.
We don’t KNOW, IF American lab safety, much better on paper, was still enough and was strictly implemented.
we don’t know, worst of all, if USA had Covid-like production held in other biolabs like ones I Ukraine or Georgia, maybe with yet worse safety.
What was said to the moment of Wuhan lab makes it the weakest link of all publicly known.
But being weakest does not necessitate being the broken one.
If there was a murder in your block and I had a known habit of walking down your street playing with a gun recklessly, then it surely is possibility it was my recklessness that caused the death. But only possibility. I can also be unrelated or even be used as a convenient fall guy
The virus was released well before the October 2019 outbreak in Wuhan and I’ll reveal this bombshell to you about its circulation in Italy. As you stated, Italian physicians had noticed a huge flu increase in the Fall of 2019 with many above-normal cases of bronchitis and bronchial pneumonia being diagnosed in the area of Bergamo and Brescia in the north of the country which became the critical “hot-spots” for the official outbreak in February 2020.
Now, turning our attention to my personal experience in a period even prior to the Fall flu surge, it tends to debunk the official narrative to date. I happen to live on the Italian island of Sicily and came down with a very strange ailment in May of 2019. Initially, I thought “hay fever” since it was the season but had never suffered anything similar in all my years living in Italy. Since I had suffered from seasonal allergies in the past and was asthmatic, the first few days I tried curing myself naturally like I have been doing for years but nothing seemed to help alleviate the symptoms. I discounted the common flu since I didn’t have an initial sore throat as usually was the case, but what struck me the most about this ailment was the complete lack of energy. Simply moving around from one end of the house to the other seemed like a Herculean task. After 3 days, realizing I wasn’t getting any better, I forced myself to my primary care physician who examined me and immediately noticed that my lungs were completely full of phlegm. She prescribed a 7-day cure of antibiotics, antihistamine and cortisone, since she was aware of my asthmatic condition and I can state that my condition began to improve 3 days after taking the meds. Interestingly, I also developed a high fever too after the medical visit which was out of the ordinary.
Today, with hindsight, I’m more than certain I got hid with the virus in that period. I have no other way of explaining what it was that hit me then. A loud voice inside my head even warned me not to take any vaccines when the government began mandating them and to date, I can claim to be vaxx free and have not even undergone 1 nasal swab test. I have had 2 bouts with “colds” since 2019, one during the official outbreak in early February 2020 and the last one after Christmas 2022, but their viral load has always been less virulent. Have I strengthened my natural immune system maybe?
So, Peppe, what was the doctor’s actual diagnosis: pneumonia?
And did your symptoms have anything in common with those later experienced by the good folk of Bergamo?
Very wise to listen to that “loud voice”.
You know what Gary, the doctor never gave me an “official” diagnosis at the time nor did she schedule any tests to see what might be the root cause of my malady. Just a prescription for a pharmaceutical treatment and that’s it.
A close cousin of mine much later who works as a medical interpreter and translator said that the cure is in line with bronchial pneumonia, which could have even been triggered from fine air-borne volcanic ash from Mt. Etna. It’s not uncommon in fact, one morning to wake up and find volcanic ash on your balcony, terrace etc.
Regarding the symptoms, I had all of them that were listed for the initial Covid phase that hit the Bergamo-Brescia area (extreme fatigue, joint aches, persistent cough, congestion, high fever)with the exception of the sore throat.
I’m fully aware that when there’s a degree of confusion in the air to trust your instincts and intuition, since they’ll never lie to you!!
My personal experiuence with bona fide COVID was… perplexing.
Typically a seaoson flue, at least for me, has some one, or two, symptoms (syndroms maybe).
Some flues throw me into a high fever. Some would make my muscles or joints sore. Worst for me is stomach ache. Or head ache, or ears ache.
But there always is some primary syndrome holding for about 4 days.
Sometimes there is a secondary syndrome, not so contrast, but noticeable.
And then that is “wrapped” into about 7 days of general “unease”.
Covid acted differently, like i mentioned below.
1. It had all those and a new one – smell malfunction.
2. Those syndromes were very short, 12 to 36 hours, instead of normal 3-4 days.
3. Those syndroms were going one after another, like a thief trying one lockpick after another in his toolbox.
This latter was so noticeable, that i really took it a kind of sick entertainment and as one syndrome was startnig waning i grew increasingly curious what would be a next experience scheduled for me, and in particular what is that smell thing eveyrone hyoped so much about? Since covid got to me, it would be a miss not to experience what everyone had! (smell malfunction was one of the last phases and it was quite short, noticed it when woke in the morning and was okay to a supper).
Peppe,I know three people who in the fall of 2019 got sick.They all said the same thing about their illness.They all were sick with a respiritory illness for about 3 weeks and it was something they had never had before in their lives.They are all in their 60,s and do not know each other.While this would be considered anecdotal,it is not just coincidental.
I first became aware of this disease way back in 2020 when I watched an interview with Dr. Pierre Kory. His big concern was that the hospital treatments were all wrong. Putting people on respirators was totally wrong.
Dr. Kory said that this illness presented as a “progressive pneumonia”. Since it was the inflamation that was so dangerous, he said it should be treated with cortical steroids. Simple. All the rest of the treatments were just ways to make people worse so they’d die and then the whole establishment could ramp up the FEAR and we know the rest.
You err in one respect, Arioch, an Australian female scientist was working in the Wuhan lab at the time of the alleged leak, she claimed the safety standards were superior to anything she had found anywhere else. Her testimony was ignored, of course.
Simply said “ we don’t know” I agree
You’re right. That secret DIA report from mid November 2019, warning of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan before anyone was sick, is the smoking gun.
Soon after Trump brought in Robert Kadlec a strong proponent of biowarfare, China was hit with a strange virus that decimated their poultry stocks. Then they were hit by an unknown pig virus that led to the slaughter of 40% of their pigs. Then for 10 months in 2019 Robert Kadlec ran crimson contagion. An exercise that simulated an unknown respitory illness coming from China. Added to that American intelligence warned our allies about a novel virus circulating in Wuhan in November before even the Chinese knew. We have the largest bioweapons program in the world. 100 billion in funding. So we take that research and do in China? Our number one adversary? Does that really make sense to anyone? The amount of the funding 650k. Does that sound like a serious amount? Not enough to achieve anything but wouldn’t that be brilliant cover if you were going to release a bioweapon (economic). When do do it? Maybe after Crimson contagion and right when you have loads of military personnel there during the military games. Added to this who gets hit right after China? Iranian leadership.
I think we can rule out natural origin. So it was either a lab leak or intentional release. If intentional release doesn’t make much sense to release on yourself.
The truth might come out in 100 years or never.
SARS-Cov was detected in China in 2002.
MERS-Cov was detected in Egypt in 2012.
SARS-Cov-2 Was detected in China in 2019.
Do you see the pattern?
My questions are:
Who modified Bat-Corona virus into a Bioweapon by making it able to break the species barrier and infect humans, and used it against China in 2002, against Iraq in 2011, and against the whole world in 2020?
Is the US military experimenting with Viruses as Bioweapons?
Who has the Patent on SARS-Cov-2?
You err in one respect, Arioch, an Australian female scientist was working in the Wuhan lab at the time of the alleged leak, she claimed the safety standards were superior to anything she had found anywhere else. Her testimony was ignored, of course.
Well said.
According to an Ecohealth whistleblower, the technology transfer to China was an ill-conceived intelligence project to gain access to China’s biodefense program.
See: https://thehighwire.com/videos/ex-ecohealth-alliance-exec-turns-wuhan-whistleblower/
The US ban on gain of function research could have been easily overcome with an exemption. The pseudo-ban was just an appeasement gesture for lab safety activists, and it created a plausible need for the technology transfer to fool the Chinese.
So how do you explain the suggestion in the Nathan Rich’s video, MTP, it’s well evidenced, well sourced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdKI5qOF_a8&t=304s
Arthur J you beat me to the lines. I was going to say the same thing “If the defense agency knew in early Nov 2019 before any one else knew, how in the world could it be an accidental leak?” This was a well rehearsed false flag on the international scene, now I too believe like Bernanrd the narrative shift from the previous not a Lab Leak, to a lab leak is to find a new monster to slay and probably to shift from the pipe line bombing. However I have seen that the Chinese are demanding an international investigation into this issue. In light of that I wouldn’t be surprised if the story will disappear from the scene to be replaced with a new narrative most probably about Iran. It already started with a news story about Iranians are 10 days from producing nuclear weapons. There is no shortage of narrative shifts. Amazing how they can flip from one story to the next at the speed of the light. Thanks
The villains behind this and their accomplices always use the same technique whenever things get a bit too “hot” in their direction. The use chaos, confusion, too many things no one can keep anything straight which means no one can lay blame successfully.
Will Jones (Daily Sceptic) piece at Unz’s site documents first public information of the ‘virus’ in late Sept 2019
The Chinese first mentioned a spreading virus in late Dec
They concluded it was a seeded bio-warfare attack from elements in Washington
This was not without precedent being the third in three years, following avian & swine flues which decimated animal stocks nationwide.
Recall how good business was for Cargil, Tyson et al with pig & poultry exports then
Apparently all’s fair in war & trade wars.
I’m just wondering what the return fire will look like
Supply chain disruption, treasury sell down, inflation, overt support for Russia, two front war for USA???
No doubt it’ll become apparent
https://www.unz.com/runz/the-alt-covid-community-begins-unraveling-the-origins-of-covid/
Lousy bioweapon….
Just saying…
Most dangerous bio-weapon is Dr. Fauci himself.
Wrong. Just as 5.56mm is designed to create casualties rather than corpses and tie up enemy with wounded so a respiratory infection that disables an economy and society is less risky to the perpetrator. US did infect world with Spanish Flu in an era before nations realised the potential
Except it only caused significant economic damage because of the panic response. In reality it very rarely affects working age and younger people seriously, and is overwhelmingly a problem for the already very ill or very old.
If our response had been “keep calm and carry on”, we’d barely have noticed it – certainly no more than past flu epidemics.
But that wouldn’t have served some very powerful interests, who clearly preferred to push fear and generate panic responses.
As originally noted, a lousy weapon (unless you are confident that it will cause panic – or are in a position to ensure that it does so….)
“unless you are confident that it will cause panic – or are in a position to ensure that it does so….”
Mainstream media is in a position to cause panic about anything.
Utter nonsense. It’s the old fairy tale about retreating armies shooting to wound rather than kill. No infantryman can do that. As to the 5.56 NATO, it was chosen so that the infantry could have a controllable assault rifle and carry enough ammo to use it in full auto mode. The round does not cause extreme damage when compared to the 7.62 NATO, nor even the 7.62×39 Soviet round.
Also, the great majority of battlefield injuries are due to artillery fire, not bullets.
No, it was a well-designed bioweapon to cause economic damage. It had high transmissibility and low but non-negligible lethality.
A bioweapon that sickens everyone, friend and foe alike, is obviously not a wise choice. In a great irony, China’s COVID experience has been much less severe than the U.S. and Europe’s. It took an extreme lockdown to accomplish that feat, but it worked.
“A bioweapon that sickens everyone, friend and foe alike, is obviously not a wise choice”.
Why not?
Didn’t America have a large segment of senior population, just like Europe and Japan.
Everybody who was old and fragile was eradicated from public welfare, as useless eaters.
It was one of the most sinister and evil crimes ever perpetrated against humanity.
Because a truly dangerous bioweapon can & will also kill the perpetrator. Aerosolized respiratory viruses do not discrimate.
That’s why Dr Michael Yeadon says they will never deliberately release a truly dangerous bioweapon.
Accidental leak from a level 4 lab is virtually impossible, which leaves pretty much the purposeful release of the virus created in some lab outside China and dispersed there on purpose (as well as other places simultaneously like in Iran and Italy it seems.) Who would have done that? Hmmm.
What is your evidence that it is “virtually impossible?”
Air pressure in different chambers is the main reason. Here are the Level 4 safety measures:
In addition to biosafety level 3 considerations, biosafety level 4 laboratories must follow these safety protocols:
Personnel must change clothing before entering the facility and shower upon exiting
All materials must be decontaminated before leaving the facility
Personnel must wear the PPE from lower BSL levels, as well as a full-body, air-supplied, positive pressure suit
Access to a Class III biological safety cabinet
BSL-4 labs are extremely isolated, often located in an isolated and restricted zone of a building or in a separate building entirely. BSL-4 labs also feature a dedicated supply of exhaust air, as well as vacuum lines and decontamination systems.
First rule of safety is that there is no fail safe that cant be ruined by ignoramuses (or overly tired scientists).
Fort Dietrich has at times been shut down and not for carpet cleaning.
We also have had planes lose live nukes in the US.
Fail-safes fail. That is the reality. Except for lawyers.
Unz convinced me.
You are only one failed pressure sensor or misconfigured variable speed motor drive away from negative pressure failure.
Nothing is impossible, one simple component failure could easily cause that.
You obviously do not know that the State Department was warned by its Beijing embassy of safety issues in the Wuhan BSL-4 lab two years before the outbreak. Google “Josh Rogin” and “Wuhan biosafety”. The BSL-4 protocol at WIV was not adhered to and some visiting experts warned that in some aspects the facility did not reach biosafety level beyond that of a dentist office (BSL-2).
I worked at USAMRIID and every person there seroconverted to become immunologically reactive to every agent being used in the building including those in the hot suites.
I also know for a fact every lab on earth has leaks, usually via the garbage waste not correctly sterilized, air flow issues, poor procedures, or accidental exposures. Remember, HEPA filtration is not absolute and a very small percentage will get through. When working with aerosols of 12 logs or greater that leaves quite a bit that still gets through. Most organisms have a substantial infectious dose but some it is a single organism.
Yes, it was released in Italy already in the Spring of 2019. I can confirm being a more than likely victim. The US uses it as a bio-weapon to get countries “in-line” with its agenda. It did it to South Korea and Japan much later than the initial outbreak and look how they have kow-towed to the US’s diktates in Ukraine.
One must ask why India refused the Pfizer and Moderna vaxxes when the Indian authorities wanted all the info on their protocol development and the US pharmaceutical heads rejected the demand!!! India, then easily overcame the “pandemic” using home-grown therapeutic cures.
The CDC finally went back and examined the stored pigtails (segments saved from blood donations) to look for antibodies specific to SARS-COV19 and found quite few positive samples from prior to October. This would prove the virus was actively circulating way ahead of the first cases in China. If it was a lab leak it likely happened in the US and not China. Additionally, patients were also seropositive in Northern Italy roughly the same time as in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_laboratory_biosecurity_incidents
Wherever humans work there is room for error
Your claim re Level 4 labs is not correct. I have worked in BSL4 and accidents, though rare, do happen. Fortunately most of these accidents are inconsequential. In 1978 smallpox escaped from a level 4 lab in Birmingham, UK and killed a photographer.
I’ve never visited the Wuhan lab, but I have a colleague who has. He believes that much of the bat research there was done within BSL2 and BSL3 environments.
Additionally the lab has a reputation of selling off (illegally) the animals after an experimental program has completed. Technicians are given the task of disposing of the animals. Not all dead animal are incinerated. Some end up as snacks.
I’ve not been unconvinced the Covid-1984 virus wasn’t created at Ft. Detrick and released by “innoculated,” troops participating at the World Military Games in Oct 2019, at Wuhan, China.
If it smells like a fart, it t’aint popcorn.
Yes, the performance of the US team at the Wuhan games was extraordinarily bad – somewhere around 35th on the medal count. Team members died. There may be a connection with the Ft. Detrick shutdown in July of 2019, Wuhan lab research, Uni of Nth Carolina lab research, and the US team illness at the Wuhan games. This is a slow burn that doesn’t look just like a coincidence that no-one has pursued yet.
As we lose the war in Ukraine, we pivot to the next war with China. Which, if you are an insane warmonger makes sense. China is growing stronger by the day. And we are growing weaker. So go now. Also, the infrastructure to send all of Russia’s energy to China is not built out yet. So, sanctions will work better now. And, Pedo Joe needs a hot war to seal the deal on the 2024 election. All the stars align.
But getting back to Ukraine. Larry, you should turn your considerable resources to Transnistria. I have a feeling, especially with recent deployments, that Ukraine will look for a distracting “win” after the Bakhmut debacle. And while the Russians no doubt have dug in, put out 50 million mines, they are surrounded there, and with limited men.
And what a good excuse for NATO and the US to send troops to “stabilize” Moldova.
It seems uncanny then that this accidental release of a virus happened just after Event 201. A high level pandemic preparedness exercise carried out in Partnership with WEF, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Johns Hopkins Center. Oct 2019
And what of the involvement of Fort Dietrich labs?
The Ukraine bio labs?
How many other US funded bio labs not on American soil?
My comment the same. I just saw yours here after not seeing any others so I posted the same question re: Event 201.
I knew the US was after Transnistria when ‘Ukraine’ offered to ‘help’ Moldova last year. Aren’t they busy enough fighting Russia? Moldova declined at the time, but no doubt some money has changed hands since then.
clearly a US Biowar attack on China. Devious nit-picking about imaginary details wont hide the basic truth US wishes the China economy destroyed and will stop at nothing to fulfil that dream. The Biowar action was one attempt.
Personally I am sceptical about “originator” being Wuhan. I believe Fauci had such long tenure because he covered Pentagon bio weapons programs with NIH legends
Baric is the key to my mind and whoever let ModeRNA patent that spike genome in 2016
I also reflect on Pentagon insistence on self-approval of experimental drugs leading to FDA compromise in 2018 which lowers standards and that that negotiation leader is now at Pfizer Board
I believe Western nations were upended by Pentagon War Imperative to suspend civil liberties in line with Rumsfeld’s Lockdown Model from Bush Era
The whole thing was a dry run for war
Fauci had such long tenure because he covered Pentagon bio weapons programs with NIH legends. — Paul Greenwood
Bears repeating.
Jeffery Sach’s thinks that COVID 19 came out of US Biotech which were also working with the Wuhan lab. He chaired the Lancet Commission on the origins of COVID. Here he is discussing what he found.
https://youtu.be/morj-3rdWwM
Also there is this interview with Matt Ridley on a accidental Wuhan leak.
https://youtu.be/FEh5JyZC218
This isn’t just some propaganda war by the US. There really seems to be something to this Wuhan leak but the cover up is that US Biotech was involved.
The bigger question is: why recirculate the story now? Misdirection away from the failing proxy war in Ukraine, and preparing for the next one with China, IMO.
If COVID was a deliberate (or accidental) release by the US, the Wuhan lab leak theory might simply be the second layer of a cover-up onion.
Personally think COVID was present in the US by at least August/September 2019. Wife and I both contracted *something* in late August. For me, lung issues and double pneumonia; her, two heart attacks. Symptoms lasted about six weeks. She still has heart issues.
Haven’t been tested for COVID, didn’t take the vaccine, and haven’t been ill since.
When the American security agencies say the are uncertain about something, it means that they do know but won’t say because they were responsible.
Bernard at Moon of Alabama pretty much banned any talk of “man made” or “release from Chinese lab” on the reply message board at his website early on. He made a big point of it being proven by his chosen expert that it was occurred naturally. I do not know why he made that decision but I did not trust him after that episode.
I think Bernhard was way too opinionated early on in the Covid saga, but I think he has gotten more open minded. I don’t think he is a limited hangout asset, just sometimes opinionated.
yes I remember he said all CONVID ‘vax’ were excellent and safe and that everyone should get one
he’s been very quiet on the subject of millions dying or getting disabled because of it
I trust Bernard. I may not agree with him on every issue. I disagree with him on Covid. In fact I have decades of expertise in this area of infectious diseases, epidemiology, public health, and Big Pharma/ vaccine development.
Covid, natural or lab generated, was nevertheless an illness, not much worse than the ‘flu, weaponised for domestic and geo-political reasons, treated with an experimental vaccine that made billions for the kleptocracy, and accompanied by ridiculous and nefarious public health policies far more harmful than the disease.
Hear hear! Words taken right out of my mouth! The ones with a righteous heart will always understand before the others.
An anecdote to illustrate. A few months ago, I bumped into my cousin’s daughter who has an advanced degree in microbiology and whose husband is a physician in the field of medical diagnostics. My cousin also had a Ph.d in Microbiology and what would surprise many, my cousin’s daughter refused to get the Italian government’s mandatory vax for all health-care workers be it public or private. I also know of other physicians that I am close to who have confirmed to me that they faked their vaxx status knowing its inherent dangers. Therefore, it should could as no mystery then why so many physicians and nurses since 2021 have left the profession causing a severe health-care staffing crisis.
You neglected to mention the severe staffing shortages that now exist in the airline industry (hence the flight delays and complete meltdowns in service), where compulsory vaccinations were also mandated. This explains the elevated rates of sudden deaths among those pilots and flight attendants who did submit to compulsory mandated vaccinations. Nothing like a little job downsizing (more like butt-sizing) from all sides to get your attention.
Compulsory vaccinations in professional sports doesn’t bother me quite so much. Jocks. I think of spike proteins like I would Kryptonite for all these supermen.
No offense, Superman.
Not to mention staff from the public security services and the military who were put on unpaid suspension. Regarding the jocks, in today’s newspaper, former IBF international super middleweight boxing champion, 30 year old Italian Daniele Scardina, slipped into a coma after another one of those far too common nowadays “sudden illness” dropping to the floor. A champion 30 year old boxer in tip top physical shape!!!!! Just a coincidence!!!
I agree, & it just dawned on me that the swamp would have wanted to mandate the pilots being vaxxed, as a precursor to the collapse of the airline industry, as they don’t care about all of the deaths & permanent disabilities developing. After all, they want that. Such evil to want & plan for global depop is unfathomable to me.
It reduces the mobility of large amounts of people/the survivors of the shots…. Just in time for their concept of 15 min cities which they have now started rolling out in various parts of the world…
IMO, Benhard has soft spot for China and frequently his confirmation bias shows.
Yes, and his desire to paint most things as an American plot. Many things are, but not everything!
I agree with Ron Unz that SARS-Cov 2 was deliberately released in China And Iran by a rogue US military operation.
Unz is an unrepentant covidiot and vaxtard.
I am interested in the separate development of the spike protein which was spliced into the virus. This appears to have been going on way before 2014 and apparently patents exist from the early 2000s. Why was it so important to fine tune the spike to target human ACE2 receptors – found is so many key systems in the body?
Also my personal (layman’s) experience with Covid was pretty unnerving.
I felt like a computer being hacked by meta-sploit or something. The virus was going through some list of “lockpicks” trying to break me one way or another. Never before was a flu acting like that.
So if this virus was man-made then I would think it was not a product of some single “gain of function” but a series of “gains” like one can install different weapon systems in a navy ship.
Extremely insightful comment regarding the ‘lock picking/ hacking’ feeling. I experienced this also. I am quite fit but every time my body asserted itself, the virus found a new route.
Equally unnervingly, I agreed to be vaxxed in order to travel. I suffered a major heart attack completely out of the blue. No prior warning. No one can quite explain why I had no prior symptoms despite regularly exercising to a good intensity.
Furin cleavage just for humankind
I agree with Larry insomuch as TSE (The Simplest Explanation) should be used as the basis against which to test all other claims. That is, US/China working together in a lab funded by both parties. However, already in this article and few comments there is confusion. The MIT Technology Review quoted by Larry stated that “The Chinese work was carried out at biosafety level 2 (BSL-2), a much lower tier than Baric’s BSL-3+.” The commentor Alex says “Accidental leak from a level 4 lab is virtually impossible.” To which Larry responds “What is your evidence that it is virtually impossible?” Like commentator Alex I have read that the Wuhan lab was level 4. So what level was/is it? 2? Lower safety that Baric. 4? Higher? Until we all agree on the safety level all else is moot.
Well it’s like Chinese restaurants In small towns of Alberta Canada .Before eating in a Chinese Restaurant . Go around the back. Look through a window or door into the kitchen. See if they have any coyotes hanging from the ceiling. You have to investigate ,get facts and evidence first. Don-t assume the chicken chow main is not Coyotes chow main.
Russian forces captured some 36 US,DOD bio weapons labs in Ukraine. They have all the computer hard drives ,lap tops, documents ,files ,and witnesses ,witness statements . Covid and the mRNA injections were created there. then shipped to Fort Detrick USA.
Ha. Your comment about going around back reminded me of what my mom told me growing up. She worked in the produce dept. at a grocery store. Across the street from the back of the store was a Magic Wok. My mom would throw out produce that was considered no longer sell-able. Staff from the Magic Wok would go into the dumpster and pull out the discarded produce and take it back to their restaurant. This was in the 1980s in the US midwest. I’ve never eaten at a Magic Wok.
The Chinese came as close to admitting some culpability as you will get from them by completely revamping the rules and the organization of bio-security across the country. Xi-JinPing even spoke about it on TV early February 2020.
Ron Unz makes a strong case for deliberate release (Iran/China — what are the odds?), connecting to the Crimson exercise which assumed America’s medical infrastructure was so vastly superior that they would be able to handle a virus easily.
There is far more detailed technical specifications of exactly what experiments were performed which ties very closely to the Covid virus we actually got. It is an obvious case of American outsourcing, not for wage arbitrage but for regulatory arbitrage.
Much as I like moon of alabama, he is somewhat captive to certain narratives, as perhaps are we all.
China is interesting for its varying standards of quality control. Take the claims of Uighur genocide—the national (i.e. Chinese) statistical yearbook shows a huge drop in minority population for Xinjiang (main province of Uighur population) in the 2019 edition vs the 2018 edition, which looks on the surface like evidence for genocide. The Chinese statistical yearbook helpfully indicates that it is based on provincial data.
The provincial data (Xinjiang statistical yearbooks) do not show this drop in minorities, especially not for Uighurs—the relevant table is 3-7. However, the Chinese and Xinjiang statistical yearbooks can be reconciled:
1. Table 3-7 (Xinjiang) contains population by ethnicity and district for the year preceding the yearbook. Table 3-1 contains the provincial total population.
2. Summing over the top level districts (sub-districts sum to top level totals for each ethnic group and collections of groups) for minority and Han Chinese in table 3-7 gives a population smaller than the last row in table 3-1. The difference between the last row of table 3-1 and the sum over table 3-7 would be the population for which the provincial government does not have ethnicity data.
3. For the 2016, 2017, and 2018 Chinese yearbooks, the Xinjiang minority population is the minority population in table 3-7 in the provincial yearbook, plus the population for which no ethnicity data is available (though note rounding in table 3-1).
4. For the 2019 Chinese yearbook, only the minority population in table 3-7 is counted but not the ethnically unidentified population, i.e. the Chinese government changed its interpretation of the provincial data without announcement.
Larry,
BACKGROUND RE VIROLOGY & ALLEGED “GAIN OF FUNCTION” RESEARCH
Most biomedical studies are false.
https://mikestone.substack.com/p/trust-the-science
https://mikestone.substack.com/p/blinded-by-pseudoscience
The alleged “lab leak” narrative is scientifically baseless and part of a “fake binary” construct.
https://off-guardian.org/2022/05/16/the-function-of-the-fake-binary/
https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/23/the-lab-leak-theory-returns-as-yet-another-fake-binary/
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Bioweapon-BS:b
https://bioanalyticx.com/gain-of-function-research-as-fake-as-the-virus/
https://viroliegy.com/2022/04/07/gain-of-fiction/
“…To anyone who may have been taken in by this GOF/Bioweapon narrative, remember that there is no evidence of any purified and isolated “viral” particles ever coming directly from human samples that are then proven pathogenic in a natural way. Virology does not dispute this. If they can not find a “virus” in nature, they can not create one in a lab. That is truly all you need to know.”
Your article assumes the scientific validity of Germ Theory and the pathogenic “Virus” Hypothesis. It further assumes that synthetic versions of hypothetical in silico pathogenic “virus” particles not found in nature can be constructed artificially in a biolab to cause disease via so-called “gain” of function experimentation. Both assumptions are false.
https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/Ep.-2282-Do-Viruses-Exist-:3
https://drsambailey.com/a-farewell-to-virology-expert-edition/
https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/Final-The-End-of-Germ-Theory:8
Dr. Stefano Scoglio (2018 Nobel Prize nominee): “The new killer variant: a pure invention!”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HFoh3bpEVqEq/
https://drsambailey.com/why-nobody-had-caught-or-got-covid-19/
https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/there-is-no-covid
https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/there-is-no-covid/comment/11149547
“…It’s imperative that everyone stop ceding ground..by reifying the Big Lie that “Covid” is a unique disease and that it is responsible for a global pandemic.
“Covid” the disease is pure fiction. All the rest of it (biolabs / batsoup / bioweapons / lableaks) is political theatre and bread and circuses. They gamed the system to code for “covid deaths.”
This has never had anything to with what is nothing more than a computer-generated genome falsely attributed to a novel pathogen….”
Virology does not comply with the scientific method. Required properly designed control experiments are never conducted by virologists, making virology a pseudoscientific specialty. Thus, its claims are scientifically baseless, notwithstanding that the vast majority of the global population (including MDs and phDs who themselves are victims of miseducation via corrupted medical school and phD curricula espousing the Germ Theory and “Virus” Hypothesis) has been indoctrinated to believe those falsehoods since birth by relentless medical propaganda over more than a century.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pseudoscience
“….Any body of knowledge that purports to be scientific or to be supported by science but which fails to comply with the scientific method……”
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/are-viruses-even-a-scientific-theory:2
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/do-virologists-perform-valid-control-experiments-is-virology-a-science/
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/CDC-no-neg-controls-PACKAGE-redacted.pdf
No health institution anywhere on the planet (including CDC and WHO) has been able to produce scientific evidence of an isolated and purified sample from a symptomatic human of the alleged “SARS-CoV-.2” in response to Freedom of Information Requests.
https://tinyurl.com/novirusisolated
The initial “SARS-CoV-2” genomic sequence assembly uploaded to Genbank in early 2020 was fraudulently constructed and does not exist in nature.
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Once-Upon-A-Time-in-Wuhan-Odysee-Exclusive-Comp:2
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/fan-wu-naked-centerfold
There are no existing scientifically valid “tests” for the alleged “SARS-CoV-2” genome and none of them (PCR, antigen, antibody) have been validated for diagnostic specificity. All EUA “tests” claiming to do so are scientifically fraudulent. There never was a “pandemic” in 2020 other than by fraudulent declaration of the U.N.’s WHO. All of the alleged “case” numbers are fraudulent. The term “infectious disease” is an oxymoron. Every attempt in history to prove contagion has failed, including by the U.S. military (e.g., Rosenau, etc.). See, e.g.: https://dawnlester.substack.com/p/infectious-diseases-dispelling-the and https://tinyurl.com/2o2n6fdf and https://viroliegy.com/2021/10/03/the-infectious-myth-busted-part-1-the-rosenau-spanish-flu-experiments-1918/ and https://viroliegy.com/2021/10/04/the-infectious-myth-busted-part-2-how-are-viruses-transmitted-they-dont-know/ .
There is an ongoing reproducibility and epistemology crisis in genomic research. The database of alleged “virus” genomic sequences is scientifically meaningless; it is merely a set of flawed computer models never shown to exist in nature. It is impossible to synthetically construct a “gain” of function for a fictitious hypothetical “virus” entity never proven to exist in nature – all funding allocated to this unscientific concept has been wasted, a colossal misallocation of capital.
https://viroliegy.com/2021/10/24/the-reproducibility-crisis-in-genomics/
https://viroliegy.com/2022/03/09/the-case-against-viral-genomes/
https://viroliegy.com/category/genomics/
There are no remedies necessary or possible for alleged pathogenic “viruses” never scientifically proven to exist.
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/The-Future-of-Vaccines:1e
Dr. Stefano Scoglio: “That mRNA ‘vaccines’ cause cells to produce spike proteins is a fairy tale”.
https://transition-tv.ch/sendung/ttv-dialog-stefano-scoglio-im-gespraech-dass-mrna-impfstoffe-zellen-dazu-veranlassen-spike-proteine-zu-produzieren-ist-ein-maerchen-2/
https://www.drug-dissolution-testing.com/blog/files/mRNA-Fairy%20Tale.pdf
Ed – i am with yu. i made a post essentially saying the same thing yu did. i hope it gets posted.
I’m with ED on this, I’ve become convinced that virus’s are figments of scientific imagination, the probable infectious agent being decaying cell fragments from other malnourished individuals catalysing death and decay in the malnourished victim. An ‘epidemic’ being the result of massive numbers of malnourished folks creating a huge burden of airborne decaying material sufficiently human so as not to immediately trigger an immune resonse. It seems that the most essential nutrient here is vitD.
The real story here should be that many of the vaxed are now less fertile and that pehaps an overwhelming majority of those who have been vaxed, and had their dna altered as a result, will produce offspring who will be infertile or be unable to create either viable foetus’s or their support mechanisms. This of course will, in time, provide a bonanza for medics and big pharma.
In the sciences, one generally tries to disprove things, rather than prove them, something the ancient Greek mathematicians (geometry) understood well enough.
Putting aside your problems with formal logic (not understanding why scientific reasoning works with hypotheses subject to test/attempted application of the modus tollens), one can make your arguments above with regards the existence of electrons. That’s why electricity, electric motors and heaters, and radios and computers, are all mythical entities.
When put to the test it seems the theory failed, this took me some time to digest perhaps you are too invested to hear it.
Drs. Thomas Cowan and Andrew Kaufman interviewed by Mike Adams
https://www.brighteon.com/08e2ac4b-461e-4852-b8cf-2c2bded2a1ea
If that link fails try https://odysee.com/@keyholejourney:7/Drs.-Thomas-Cowan-and-Andrew-Kaufman-interviewed-by-Mike-Adams-Why-the-virus-pandemic-is-a-FARCE:9
Event 201, anyone ?
I think it’s quite possible that us funded research at Wuhan could be the source. However if we are to consider this we must also consider the activities at Fort Detrick and the cluster of unusual flu type and “vaping” deaths in that locality too.
“Exclusively blaming China is going to…”
Give us the reason we need to confiscate every asset of theirs that we can get our mitts on, to compensate us for all the $ we printed trying to mitigate the effects of Covid – namely, the disastrous decisions made by our own government to shut down the economy and fire people from their jobs for refusing the worthless jab.
Hey, Ukraine gave us the excuse to “freeze” (steal) a few hundred billion $ from Russia, I figure China ought to net us more, including a lot of U.S. real estate holdings, stocks, ships… hell, maybe even a few good Chinese restaurants.
You don’t really think the U.S. is going to cop to its role in the whole Covid fiasco, do you?
Nah. It’s now officially The China Virus™ (just like Trump said) and they’re gonna pay, big time.
FORTUNE COOKIE: “If you’re looking for justice, you’ve come to the wrong place.”
I TOLD YOU SO!
Trump demands Covid ‘reparations’ from China
Ex-US President Donald Trump says Beijing must pay “massive damages,” citing recent FBI and DOE claims that Covid “likely” leaked from a lab
https://www.rt.com/news/572471-trump-china-covid-reparations/
mr. johnson- i take a different view on viruses know than i used to. I respectfully ask to be allowed the post the below. it will not be everyones cup of tea. am just trying to the truth that i believe in out there.
the latin name for them is a poison. I do not believe they are what we have been told and that the science of virology is fraudelent. I have left the big pharma reservation and am not returning to it. The only use i have for it is a catostrophic event which they are still good at dealing with.
There are 2 theories in the 1800`;s. there was the pasteur theory about viruses, fungi and bacteria causing all the disease and that this required medicine to fix it. This became the accepted one cause it made alliopathic medicine allot of money.
the other one is terrain theory from becamps. this in a nutshell is that our bodys are an ecosytem of its own. When it becomes weakened by bad diet, stress, drugs etc it changes the balance of the microbes already inside us and we become ill. When you fix the problem that started the illness you fix the problem without spending thousands of dollars on drugs.
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/notes-from-yesteryear/germ-theory-versus-terrain-the-wrong-side-won-the-day/#gsc.tab=0
Terrain, the Film – Full Documentary
https://www.knowingthetruth.com/terrain-the-film-full-documentary/
From the research i have done – COVID19 – stands for certification of vaccination id 2019.
As for the virus- exactly what did they isolate. From their own records the cdc admitted in the summer of 2020 they did not have a sample of the stuff. this was discovered by jon rappaport. i read that then and still have a copy of that cdc document. i am not sure what many were poisoned with to scare us to get the the shot ; but have my doubts it was something that magically came out of a lab.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/10/09/covid-the-virus-that-isnt-there-the-root-fraud-exposed/
this is a different theory on what viruses are- the video is inside – exosomes which are rogue proteins
https://greatmountainpublishing.com/2020/08/29/what-science-calls-viruses-may-really-be-exosomes/
Dr. Samantha Bailey – Project Veritas and the “virus”
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Project-Veritas-and-the-Virus:3
Myself and others believe that essentially what the 4 different shots do is to make the body create exosomes which are commonly called spike proteins and are expelled through our breathe.. they are poisonous and can poison the people that come in contact with. They can be dealt with and i have learned how to do so.
this is a great video- especially for anyone with a biblical perspective
PHARMAKEIA = BLACK MAGIC
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kyPluAytShIm/
https://www.bitchute.com/embed/kyPluAytShIm/
if anyone wants to know exactly how evil this sytem is ; here yu go.
Does the Government Own Your Organs? What You a Don’t Know Can Kill You | Dr Paul A Byrne MD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTuqlIgCu5c
if anyone has watched the vid below; what is done to the organ donors is no different than what this fictional tv serial killer did to his victims as per the modus operandi below in my opinion.
https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Frank_Breitkopf
another look at ohio- maybe an op to kick us off our land into the 15 minute cities. Dr. merritt is an ex military doctor.
short vid
Ohio Chemical Spill–It’s Not What You Think – Dr. Lee Merritt, MD
Bolshevik Communists are at it again… same M.O. as in Russia, 1917
– https://rumble.com/v2a1xi0-ohio-chemical-spill-its-not-what-you-think..html
long vid
Dr Lee Merritt: We’re Not Being Told The Truth About The Ohio Train Derailment – SOL
– https://rumble.com/v2b4b7e-dr-lee-merritt-were-not-being-told-the-truth-about-the-ohio-train-derailmen.html
clownworld
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-loses-re-election
this person once said it had the biggest male member in chicago.
probably true; for anybody that thinks this is a real woman
oceanfront property
https://youtu.be/jYJ5MzEDeWE
respectfully.
Ralph
I think Covid-10 was created in Ukraine’s bio labs, brought and released in China during the International Military Games. Someone could even modify the virus to affect the Chinese harder than other populations…
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7813667/
You should read https://twitter.com/WarClandestine
Hello, just my two cents in the topic.
Regarding the actual origins of covid, there were some previous reports regarding antibodies before the actual outbreak in China. For example below:
https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2021/02/03/singapore-found-covid-19-immune-response-before-wuhan-outbreak-expert/
There were a few articles regarding similar findings. So that would actually mean that Covid existed prior to Wuhan, but was only reported by China. However this doesn’t seem to be discussed anymore. So is there any confirmation that the first actual covid is really from China? Or noone is really trying to trace the origins, but to find a scapegoat to blame for the years of covid spreading?
Faucis words and actions mannerisms were identical to the other arsonist Barney Frank who tried to cover up his anti red lining legislation that caused the mortgage bundling of the 2008 housing crisis. Guilty arrogance of each taking up roll of problem solver of each titanic mess they had created.
Lab leak shla beak ! Russian latest disclosures about Ukranian biolabs with primarily aerosol distributed products last week need to be drowned in the alt media. Ron Unz at unz.com has written extensively about the evidence in circulation that covid started out as a targeted bioweapon and his investigation triggered by indisputable simultaneous isolated emergence of covid in Wuhan AND TEHRAN in January 2020 but nowhere else in between and then Milan region of BRI partner Italy the 3rd major outbreak.
As with swine flu, bird flu and the mystery SARS disease that killed something over ten thousand mostly elderly Beijing region Metro (Subway) users January-March 2018 the Chinese people have been warned by CCP that these viruses are aerosol bioweapons not natural.
@GATT
I read Mr. Unz’s article and there is no way to explain the outbreak in Iran on a Wuhan lab leak. The likely explanation is that Covid was created in parallel at a US lab. While there could have been an accidental leak at the Wuhan lab events that have occurred since then indicate that this was a planned attack on mankind by diabolical fiends.
I think it’s a short-sighted attempt to blame China for something they had a bit part in. Too many “coincidences.”
In the fall of 2019 before anybody heard of COVID-19, the US military put out calls for research to study it.
There’s the Moderna patents on aspects of the spike proteins.
There’s the Gates, et al pandemic simulation that looked exactly like what we saw.
The vaccines are killing people, in line with Gates’ family support for eugenics, along with the WEF.
Vaccine patents were filed before the disease was official.
There are links to Canadian and US labs, and potentially Ukraine.
It looks more like something developed by certain companies in concert with some actors in the US government, complete with a psy-ops aspect for societal control via fear mongering. It does not have any characteristics of an “accident” but all the pieces point to something deliberate.
If the goal is to strip democratic countries of rights, it seems to have been successful. There was too much scrutiny and revelation of facts though and now they need to morph the narrative. The public is generally to where they understand “misinformation” and “disinformation” refer to the “truth.”
The globalists overplayed their hand, and it’s catching up to them, so now China is the patsy. They’re already morphing the main scare narrative to climate change as they keep trying to push the “great reset” on us, and the debt/financial bubbles we have are gong to generate some kind of reset anyway. The WEF/globalists are trying to keep control, trying to destroy things without it getting out of control. The trouble is they’re not the brightest bulbs in the box. They haven’t thought things through, and now China and Russia are problematic for them.
Choosing China as the patsy will enable a head start at demonizing them so when the truth is presented that it was the result of American research, the cover will be that they’re just trying to dodge responsibility.
Meanwhile, the US patsy will be Trump. Last year the Dems started giving him credit for the vaccines that are turning out to be a disaster. Being a narcissist, Trump can’t admit it was a mistake, so he’ll keep trying to say they were the greatest gift to mankind, and they’ll hang him with it. Just wait, if Trump gets the nomination we’ll soon hear the horror stories on the vaccines. They’re already out there, but the mainstream will start carrying them, along with social media, instead of censoring them as they have so far.
The fools don’t understand that they’re going to be telling the public they’ve been duped badly, with their health put at risk. How’s that going to play out? These guys just don’t think things through, as most following Larry’s site know. The silver lining is people will get back a healthy distrust of government.
They’re juggling too many balls now. Russia, China, the zombie economy, the Ponzi scheme debt bubble, destroying western culture, mass migration, etc. You know some fool somewhere has “modeled” all this and they think they know what they’re doing. But there’s always the unintended consequences…..
Interesting and apposite article from Pepe Escobar here: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-stage-set-hybrid-world-war-iii
So as the Biden regime builds up the anti-Chinese narrative to mask domestic and Ukrainian disasters, China has finally had to come out of the closet and is now allied with Russia in a hybrid crusade against the hegemon who, under the neo-cons, has been messing up the world for too long.
This question interests me: millions of Chinese live in Europe and the USA. Where do they now place their allegance? And with the chinese belief in Dao, what do they do then? It might be problemmatic if a few million sleepers become active.
MoA and most of its regular cabal was more covid hysterical than the MSM, the blog became unreadable, Bernhard was talking outside of his area of expertise. Should stick to geopolitics where he does well.
That the US would use this to ramp up tensions with China though is hardly surprising. Sadly there are more covid origin stories now than religions, and likewise wherein lies truth as opposed to simple belief?
IMO, Bernhard exhibits the traits of a socialist more than anything else.
He seems to favor govt intervention when it comes to social issues (like shot/mask mandates.
Its a shame, but many times it worth taking the good with bad.
While lab leak from WIV is a very likely origin, I had to disagree with the so called credible evidence by the 2 defectors as mentioned by the article. The evidence is not only debatable but the defector’ credibility is questionable ( if this article referring to dr li meng yan and ex Chinese counter intel chief Dong Jingwei)
In terms of bioweapon and its deployment, US leads China by miles. They have acquired Japanese bio scientists ( or war criminal some would say) after WW2 and performed many illegal bioweapon experimentation. US has also been documented for using insect infected with viruses as weapon (DARPA I’m looking at you) in Cuba and Korea
GOF (gain of function) experiments were what the Japanese did during world WW2. They basically infect a prisoner with illness, then extract the blood after he/she died and reinfect others in order to develop deadlier strain, in practice that what GOF is
I think the moral lesson here is that UN / China / Russia / global south should push collective west to agree to a global moratorium banning chimeric pathogen & gain of function experiment. The bioscience community really need to shaped up or they will kill the entire world!!
But for the last point I’d like to mention is it’s really a bad idea to be finger blaming China over a theory that doesn’t have smoking evidences. The death toll from resulting war (economic and hopefully not military) would be catastrophic, there will be shortage of medical supply, disruption to global supply chain, and shortage to everyone on the globe!
You can’t find something if you don’t look for it, the best example of this being variations of “it can’t be true because we have seen no evidence of it” It is reported that a recent senior politician had a man following him around reading the newspaper to him every morning so that if questioned about something he could say truthfully he hadn’t read anything about it.
The trouble for the narrative police is that once you declare the virus man made the question then becomes accidental or malicious release.
The story about the US Air Force collecting genetic information on the people of Russia (true? who knows?) will help push the narrative in a direction Washington won’t like.
It may not matter in the long run if Pepe Escobar is correct. https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/02/28/the-stage-is-set-for-hybrid-world-war-iii/
There were cases of lung related injury leading to death, attributed to vaping in America that was not replicated anywhere else in the world, and then Boom! Covid made the news.
Has anybody seen this? Ray McGovern’s presentation to the UN Security Council re Nord Stream bombing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odALIkEHesE&t=1s
Dr David Martin has been following the Covid/Vaccine story from the intellectual property side of things. Certain patents and involvement by certain institutions tell a story – and also the timing.
As primers, see: https://totalityofevidence.com/dr-david-martin/
and
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/11/20/dr-david-martin-who-they-are-the-names-and-faces
Hah!
Did not see your post–you beat me to it.
Good find, and his point that no investigation is required because the one document tells everything one needs to know is superb.
But Congress?
“Crickets”
thanks,
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I personally believe that it is purposeful release.
Basically, US agencies moved research of this virus to CHN, provided them with funding, and on the other side, low level CHN officials accepted to do it (probably for personal gain as well, and they could also claim that they are using Americans), and once that lab was infiltrated enough it was not too hard to just release it into public.
My guess was that during last bird flu pandemic, CHN took the brunt of the damage, so they probably hoped they could replicate such problem with even more devastating effect.
If it could not be contained inside CHN, they could implement all the COVID related policies, and also blame CHN if they need it, so its Win-Win situation for them really.
Simply put, CHN policies that allow many joint ventures (the way they developed their country), lack of general oversight and little bit of corruption was enough to organize this, so I don’t think that any of it was an accident.
The people that made the virus (its not a very big community) got tasked with finding the culpit/origin. Surely no coflict of interest there and no reason to cover it up. Faucci paid for the whole thing (Anthony Fauci has put $600,000 of U.S. grant money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology).
Still winning? The Ukrainian soldier on the front lines with Russia lasts on average 4 hrs now.
Ukrainian/NATO/Biden/UK/Canadian/French Leadership should all be tried for mass genocide.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/most-bakhmut-front-line-ukrainian-soldiers-killed-within-4-hours
Maxim machine gunner 1916 lasted 30 minutes
They still have Maxims, and use them with same effectiveness.
An alternative possibility is that the virus escaped from a US lab during 2019 and the US decided to shift the blame to China by conducting a bio-warfare attack in Wuhan under the cover of the World military games. A similar attack may have been carried out against Iran. Italy having such a large number of US military bases may have gotten the virus by the traffic both military and civilian between Italy and the USA. All three countries appear to have initially been attacked by different strains of the virus.
Berhard turned out to be censorship freak and mainstream narrative peddler during the C19 plandemic. At the height of his own personal Covid panic he canceled my contributions and those of many others in the comment section when he disagreed with the content. I contacted him to contact me to prove I am not a “troll” but a educated scientist (as many others he banned as “trolls”) but he didn’t. MoA is dead since then for me. I hate censors like nothing else – and MoA showed his true colors then.
Those faux communists can teach Americans a thing or two about being greedy and corrupt. (I don’t say this out of any love for communism, but real Marxists they ain’t. They are content to wield the power of the state and repeat its slogans, but their only principles are wealth and power. See Animal Farm. Actually the only real Marxists around are probably American university professors, but give them a taste of power and that’ll change right quick.)
Looks like Fauci and Baric just got thrown under the bus. Could not have happened to a more deserving pair of AH’s.
Given these revelations has there been any further explanation going back to the Military games in Wuhan in Oct 2019?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/23/congress-wuhan-military-games-2019-covid/
An alternative possibility that I think is worth investigating is that there was an accidental release in the USA of a virus that was intended to be used at some later date. As a matter of urgency it was then decided to release it in Wuhan in order to create the fiction that the Chinese were responsible.
It is also interesting to note that according to some researchers there is a dna element to this virus and different strains were found in both Iran and Italy as well as China. The Iranian outbreak as well as the Chinese outbreak could well have been bio-warfare attacks and the Italian outbreak could just have been a consequence of the human traffic both military and civilian between the USA and Italy. Italy does have a large number of American military bases.
For me the people having the least credibility in this whole affair are those pushing the Wuhan virus narrative. I find them to be the least trustworthy of actors and the recent discovery by the Russians of the bio-warfare program that was being run by the Pentagon in Ukraine reinforces this view.
Many, many years ago, people would ask me if HIV was man-made and deliberately released.
After much research and reading, all I could say to them then was that it was “POSSIBLE”, because I simply couldn’t prove it.
I’m hoping that we’ve learned something over the last 30 years, and I don’t have to tell them the same thing this time.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
When HIV was called GRID it had a clearer transmissibility………but politically it was necessary to make it more “generic” and get everyone involved………
Maybe amyl nitrite in excessive dosage is inimical to immune system ?
I too was thinking of HIV.Does anyone actually KNOW where HIV came from?
If you pick up a copy of Dr. Leonard Horowitz’s book “Emerging Viruses: AIDS And Ebola : Nature, Accident or Intentional?” it would give you quite a bit of info. Oh, I forgot to mention the book “And the Band Played On” written by Randy Shilts, it’s referred quite a bit in Horowitz’s book & was actually made into a movie too.
I forgot to mention I read the book in the mid-90’s so I don’t remember a lot of the details from the book in order to give you more info, which is why I suggested looking for a copy of it.
Did you hear of & read Dr. Leonard Horowitz’s book “Emerging Viruses: AIDS And Ebola : Nature, Accident or Intentional?” He self-published it because the book was such a hot potato no major book publisher would do it and it’s over 600 pages with images, interviews, etc. It took quite awhile for me to get through it. Some days I could only read a few pages before getting so pissed off I had to put it down. If I remember correctly, Kissinger was the one who signed the order for HIV/Aids to be developed. I also remember an image taken from a magazine from the early 70’s in which the Council for Foreign Affairs (or it might have been Foreign Relations) talking about the need for global depopulation…
I have two copies of the book, both in storage, the second one I found in a used bookstore for a couple of dollars. I snapped it up.
A possible link to the vaccines against Hepatitis B in the late 1970s?
Yes.
A curse on ALL their houses.
COVID was manmade. You cannot combine an HIV RNA stem with a DNA virus except in a laboratory. And not just any lab but an expert lab capable of working with this kind of material — a BSL-4 level laboratory.
There are at least 14-documented BSL-4 Labs right here in the United States. Two in Canada, where two Chinese scientists were captured attempting to smuggle the virus from Canada to China. And one BSL-4 Lab located (one lab that we know of) in Wuhan, China.
The odds are pretty good (like 100-percent), that this sucker was made right here in the “Good Old US of A.”
And since Herr Dr. Fauci was in charge of operations here in the United States (like Herr Dr. Fauci was back in the 1980s when the HIV virus (his baby) entered mainstream populations and killed — murdered — millions of gay men, who were the most susceptible to the virus. It’s an even better bet that Herr Dr. Fauci is our Dr. Mengele.
COVID as yet another Nord Stream attack on critical civilian infrastructure (human lives). Another act of war. An act of war against ourselves. An act of war against the world. An act of war against the species.
The problem here is that nobody really knows what COVID is. Being that it is manmade, anything is possible. Anything is possible. Now add the spike proteins from the vaccines and the scenario gets pretty bleak.
You don’t make weapons of mass destruction right on your own front doorstep. Nobody is that stupid [sarcasm]. Here’s the scenario: It got out. It turned on us. Millions have died so far. It’s a good bet millions more will die. The End.
If other labs were working on the same matter, perhaps the funding of Wuhan lab was part of a ‘setup’ to pass blame. Would anyone be that evil?
The problem is not so much where the shit come from than what it was used to do.
Politicians around the world open the Pandora Box just to take the worst tools out of it … for a problem than finally alleviate itself (as all pandemic situations in history of mankind).
It “unmasked” for most the real nature of our so called “democratic leaders” … a bunch of wannabee a dictator.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Wuhan lab has the highest biosafety level possible( level 4) not level 2.
And you evidence for that is?
Well and there is this perspective as discussed by Michael Sanger in recent substack post https://michaelpsenger.substack.com/p/drastic-founder-renounces-lab-leak:
“J.J. Couey, one of the original founders of DRASTIC—a grassroots group assembled to investigate SARS-CoV-2’s origins—renouncing the lab leak theory, saying he now believes the lab leak theory represents a kind of controlled opposition or “double bluff” in order to perpetuate the pandemic state of emergency.
“…increase in pneumonia deaths can be explained almost entirely by iatrogenesis and the poor medical protocols that were rolled out by the World Health Organization and other public health and national security authorities with the onset of COVID.”
Think we all can agree that medical draconian orders resulted in many deaths. Was managing an Urgent Care during initial SARS and the missives from “on high,” did not imbue one with confidence in the CDC or well-paid medical administrators.
“of course the Cheese made the virus, but who did they steal the patent from?” Mini AOC, about 2 years ago, lol. But, it was given not stolen. I don’t remember her name, but one Chinese scientist that fled to Hong Kong and then to the US says it was deliberately leaked because the Chinese underestimated how contagious it was, they thought they could control it at home.
“China, for its part, also engaged in a cover up. Chinese officials were loathe to admit that incompetent lab security”
Sorry Larry, but those are your opinions, not “facts”.
Many labs were collecting bat samples, Wuhan included in 6 others, studying viruses, all were sent back to Tbilisi Georgia site, and later to US. China may also have had their “5th column” working against Xi , but that was a released bio-weapon by the US. Long before Covid 19, a journalist researcher had documented the “bat” Tbilisi Georgia lab & there was also a “leak” there. This was a DARPA funded bio weapon. With a dual purpose… bring China into submission & Reset …
The energy department report was “Low Confidence” and we all know what that means – particularly what it means is a “Low Confidence” report is published. It’s propaganda – so intellectually it is wrong to use the report or even the timing of the report in an argument for or against how Covid emerged.
It could have been natural and probably was – just like the next virus. It doesn’t really matter which this or the next virus is. The real screw ups were with the Political interpretations of “The Science”. This time we screwed up with massive and painful lockdowns. Getting it right 2nd time should have been easier, but actually it is going to be much much harder now it is all Politics.
Very good read and the link to the MIT article. Our US government seems incapable of telling the truth. How can they be believed on any subject? They really think they can lie on everything and keep a firm hold on power. I heard a group of public employees in a social service agency griping about a CRT session they had. I know they progressive but they were plenty pissed. One offered a contrarian view and was reprimanded by the statement “You’re white.”
Sounds like a WW2 movie in which the teacher, the learned man is told by a SS officer, “ You are a Jew. Shut up.”
I try to distinguish between what is ‘possible’ and what is ‘probable’.
1. Is it possible that one of the myriad of US intelligence organizations now thinks that it may be ‘possible’ for a Wuhan lab-leak origin of covid? Yeah, it’s remotely possible.
2. Is it ‘probable’ that the same scatological operative who peddled the WMD in Iraq hoax, is now peddling the Wuhan lab-leak hoax? Yeah, it’s highly probable.
I try not to argue the possible, but to think about the probable.
The Japanese used balloons to drop biological weapons on China during WW2.
Now we get balloon hoaxes and bio-weapon lab-leak hoaxes.
I tend to the old carney axiom, “always watch the hand that is not doing the trick”.
Therefore, when this great revelation™ ® emerged, in direct contradiction to the usually suspect “17 intelligence agencies” group-grope of the last 2 years, my first thought was that, apart from the obvious China dragon threat, it was also at smoke screen to distract any further attention being given to the US funded biolabs encountered by the Russians in the initial incursion northern Ukraine.
If you haven’t learned that whatever they tell you is a distraction from what they are currently doing, then heaven help you.
There seemed to be a lot of good science very early on suggesting that SARS-Cov2 was almost certainly created in a lab. My early working assumption was therefore that it either came from Wuhan or Ft Detrick (with the former maybe 2x as likely as the later, primarily because of its proximity to Ground 0). As time has elapsed, more evidence seems to suggest that the Ft Detrick theory may be just as good as the Wuhan one, or rather that Wuhan may not be the right answer? I think people should remain sceptical until more evidence appears, especially given the febrile environment for stirring things up.
The UK’s Daily Sceptic has had a few good articles about the things which don’t quite add up about the Wuhan theory. Those pieces have been reproduced/echoed at the Brownstone Institute, who are the people behind the Great Barrington Declaration (which raised major concerns about governments COVID policies). These are rational, smart and informed people.
If you are unaware of some of the problems with the Wuhan theory then this is worth the time – “Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of COVID-19 Virus, Says U.S. But What Do We Really Know?”
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/02/27/lab-leak-most-likely-origin-of-covid-19-virus-says-u-s-but-what-do-we-really-know/
You’d be shocked how much trust in gov disappears when shooting starts. It’s all fine and dandy to use gov to bash your political enemy about vax, Russian botting and the like but these assholes would never sign up to die. I personally do not believe USA can fight another serious war. Way too divided, and people who did all the heavy lifting are not gonna sign up these days for various reasons. I live near NAS Pensacola and none of retire military I golf with suggest service for their kin. Are the trans contingent that eager or there for free sex change?
In sum I don’t worry about it. Just more fear mongering and unaudited cash for MIC and hangers on.
The most important thing to understand is that COVID is first and foremost a political tool, a political propaganda hammer. It has been milked for all it’s worth here domestically. Now that that’s done, China will be the new nail for the political hammer called COVID.
The lunatics in the administration drove Russia and China together with their ill advised and arrogant Game of Thrones adventure in Ukraine. This “lab leak” leak comes out just as rumors of China supplying weapons to Russia are hitting the news.
If this leak was about truth and transparency, Facui, people from Ecohealth Alliance, and a lot of politicians would end up in jail. The media would do a lot of soul searching, and there would be a lot of apologies coming from the politicians, media and medical/science community here. None of that will happen.
All that will happen is more gaslighting and banging the COVID hammer on China and shifting blame to anywhere other than where it belongs.
As Ukraine slips from the grasp of the US, the neocons, as per usual following their other debacles in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and now realizing that they can’t take out Russia before China, are now ramping up Sinophobic hysteria. Hence this new canard.
Here is the reality: The US has been collaborating with both Japanese war criminals and their Unit 731 bio weapons research, as well as the Germans, letting them off the hook in exchange for their tutelage.
The Soviet Union knew all about this as did the Chinese in the Korean War. But just for a taste of what has been going on, here is a Soviet TV docudrama about biochemical warfare. The first 5 minute introduction cites the British city of Porton (recall the Skripal affair) and Ft. Detrick. This was a 1968 production.
So biowarfare, chemical warfare (the US still has not fulfilled it obligations under the Chemical Warfare treaty to destroy its stash of chemical weapons) are well documented.
Most likely, this was an attack on China to cripple its economy. And China’s response was due to its suspicion that it was under attack….indeed, China has been subject to several such attacks, such as SARS, and pig flu epidemics.
English subtitles: https://odysee.com/@IrinaBoyko:6/dead-season,-part-1,-movie-by-savva:b
The U.S. was not squeamish about enlisting the services of Japanese and German war criminals after World War II. These included scientists and physicians who were well practiced in experimenting on human subjects. The discovery of U.S. funded labs in Ukraine that were collecting genomic information on Russian people is especially bizarre. The idea was to design pathogens that would selectively target people of Russian descent. There are a number of reasons why this is a very bad idea, but putting that aside, it’s hard for me to imagine the sick mind that would even consider such a tactic.
“Here is the reality: The US has been collaborating with both Japanese war criminals and their Unit 731 bio weapons research, as well as the Germans, letting them off the hook in exchange for their tutelage. The Soviet Union knew all about this as did the Chinese in the Korean War.”
And all of the accusations were dismissed as “communist propaganda”.
Interesting that a COVID-like illness sprang up around Ft. Detrick several months before Wuhan, and it was dismissed as a mysterious vaping syndrome.
Lab leak? Perhaps.
Accidental? Perhaps.
First at Wuhan? Perhaps.
More likely it was tested on Americans and then loosed upon China, but not by the Chinese.
Spot on. The numerous videos and articles by Dr David Martin and Dr. Richard Fleming will further clarify and expound this view.
This is a wait and see, there is snippets of info that it came from Ukraine and was brought to China
https://rumble.com/v269emt-biolab-in-rubezhnoe-where-big-pharma-used-ukrainians-as-lab-rats-for-the-cv.html
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1496745429672857602
Did you ever watch the movie Fantasia, where Mickey is Merlin’s apprentice. Before he leaves on a trip, Merlin orders Mickey, his apprentice, to clean the hut and not to touch the book of Magic Spells. Well you guessed it. Mickey gets the bright idea of using a couple of spells to get the mops and the buckets to do his job for him. What could go wrong?, Mickey asks. The buckets kept dumping water and flooded the place, while the mops kept landing their handles on Mickey’s butt.
This explains the mideavel saying: beware of the magic turning on the magician.
This is what happens when “Mickey Mouse” elite scientists mess with the Magical “Gain of Function” of the Magician “Our Creator”, egos egged on by a satanic organization professing to be intelligent.
I can’t wait for the Mickey Mouse magic of A.I. to start whipping our big ass “intelligent” Elite. Maybe A.I. will detect that the Elite are the source of all misguided evil.
The “Elite’s” colossal level of ignorance and stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
Any more stupidity than building the first A-bomb. What a stupid waste it has become, when the arc of its history, our present and future are considered.
What I would give to meet an intelligent lifeform which recognizes the Honor Mankind has been given when appointed Vice Regents, Stewart’s of the Earth? Everything.
Look at the author of the article at WSJ: Michael R Gordon
The same Michael R Gordon who published Iraq WMDs in the NYTimes…
So this isn’t “just” a propaganda move – it is a sign that the Deep State thinks it is time to focus on China as the “next bad guy”, now that Ukraine is lost.
Count me as one of those now thinking that the US will “declare victory” in Ukraine and withdraw a la Afghanistan 2020 so that it can refocus on China…
This is just the old US playbook: First you denigrate the adversary in order to make him hateful to the gulible and uninformed US public. Then you use military force with the support of the public that learned to hate. Very simple and has worked with far weaker adversaries. However, this is not be the case of either Russia o China.
As the old saying goes, the cover-up is worse than the truth. How convenient that this “news leak” surfaced just when the Biden administration is looking for a justification to pivot from Ukraine to China. Biden will “pull an Afghanistan” in Ukraine because both parties want to get on to the business of ginning up a war with China. Adios Zelensky — you’re on your own, and if the Russians don’t get you, the Nazis will. Recall Henry Kissinger’s immortal words: To be an enemy of America is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
Considering the decades of US military involvement in identifying deadly, dangerous viruses the US military should be at the top of the list for investigation. That hasn’t, and won’t happen.
Please note that the Wuhan labs were a joint partnership between China and the US. The security levels set there certainly had the input of the US.
One curious aspect is that the natural reservoirs for covid aren’t in Wuhan, but hundreds of miles away, where the bats and pangolins live.
The covid viruses has been a target of American researchers long before the Wuhan labs ever were built. It would not be beyond the pale to imagine that a complete covid-19 virus could have been brought into China, and then the Wuhan labs, from the US. Thus, when the FBI says that the Chinese lab is fingered as the source of the virus it never mentions (nor do the media) that the lab was a joint venture, or that the US has been working on these viruses for decades. Dropping a plague in the middle of China would be quite a weapon of choice for a murderous, racist group of scientists.
Consider.
The question is not what really was the origin of COVID. The question is, how many contradiction will John Doe mass media consumer accept without starting a revolution. What can politicians do until the people understand that these persons are simply stupid?
Can we change our enemies dayly? Today 4+4 = 5. Tomorrow it equals 3!?
All this was thoroughly discussed in the Plan-demic 2 production ( In Doctor Nation) within a few months of the emergence of this weapon. Unfortunately the toxic release here is categorized as a Chinese accident. Hmm
There are numerous coincidences that make that scenario dubious. Observing the smug confidence of the event 201 attendees is informative, Pre-Covid. In particular their emphasis on controlling the narrative, they were more concerned with repressing rebellious conspiracy theorists than anyone’s health.
Interesting that 3, or is it 4 years later, all those theories are now headlines by the same sources that dismissed them so completely in the beginning.
2 books come to mind. RFK Jr’s The real Tony and something newer, Turtles all the way Down ( Anonymous authors from Israel). It is not the Chinese driving this Bio-weapon agenda.
Most Western news has been reduced to absolute Psychological projection. It only makes sense when you reverse the villain and the good guy. Yet we still imbibe.
Right Frank.
Occam’s Razor says, “All paths lead straight back to Tony Fauci”. That’s right Frank!
Everyone read RFK, Jr.’s book The Real Anthony Fauci. Once you do that you’ll see where this whole thing came from. Fauci has been working on this shit for decades. One of his big hits was AIDS. He was involved in that.
Sure there were other “players” but the Big Guy was Fauci. He had the means, motive and opportunity. Then when Tony Fauci met William Gates, Jr., the whole W.E.F., W.H.O., and Soros Syndicate piled in.
People keep saying these villains are stupid. No. They have stolen trillions of dollars over the years. You know what you can do with just ONE trillion? They’ve managed to buy everything lock, stock and barrel! Someone before me said if you have the media with you that’s all you need. Bingo!
None of this could have gotten any traction without the controlled media. Same as with 9/11, JFK, and Pearl Harbor. As The Fire Sign Theatre famously put it, “Everything You Think You Know is Wrong”.
What I want to know is: what role is Russia playing, and will play, in this whole Western Establishment psychological operation?
Facts:
1. COVID19 was either negligently released from a Chinese lab or intentionally released from a Chinese lab–the origin is Chinese.
2. In either case the US (Obama Admin) is complicit through virus R&D at the very least.
3. Globalists seized the pandemic event as a green light to implement their long awaited government control through draconian mandates, lock downs, and worst of all vaccinations. Some of those controls are still in place post pandemic.
Assumption/Theories:
1. COVID19 was unleashed to destroy Trumps’ 2020 re-election…both China and the leftists were well motivated to do so and they succeeded. The enemy of my enemy is my “friend”.
2. The Biden admin needs a globally recognized win (badly)…it is failing in the UKR so it has now sought to pin the COVID19 pandemic on China (which of course is in fact partially to blame) but the point is China is no longer a “friend” and needs to be demonized as a causus belli and to give Biden global recognition & credit for solving the COVID19 crime against humanity.
3. We are racing toward a “West and the Rest” multi-polar world order. Keep your eye on the dollar because it’s all about the dollar…once the faux dollar collapses the US hegemon collapses…Russia, China and many others know this.
The origin is Chinese is not factual. If you said US led/financed team worked on it together in China that is well supported. The big question now is what were they all trying to achieve? All those with increased power and profit, over the last 3 years in particular, are suspect. Those with patents from the turn of the century are convicted.
That we should hate China is the new narrative. If they are so fuckin evil why have we bought so much shite from them over the last few decades, all the US middlemen ignored their evilness?
There is always someone to hate in the US narrative, we are like sheep, MSM says hate and we fall in line, yes master, should I lick your boots while I am at it?
if it didn’t originate in China…where do you think it originated…a US lab then shipped to a Chinese lab?
Ask yourself why all the US bio labs in the Ukraine? Who built and funded those, China?
Would a war start in the Ukraine if the US didn’t organize it?
Uk, Dec 2019, both my wife and I came down with a serious respiratory infection and Nast cough. My wife’s peak flow collapsed and when we rushed to hospital were treated with disinterest, ‘probably a flu virus’, three months later the NHS’s reaction was somewhat different.
I knew it was a manufactured virus from it’s atypical behaviour and the ‘dying with Covid’ description being used to craft the terror narrative. As the months rolled on it was pretty obvious the outbreak was engineered to affect the results of the US election (easy to abuse, mail in ballots replacing votes) and kickstart the Great Reset that had been delayed with Trump’s arrival in 2016. Biden’s nomination and statements by the WHO and the WEF show that the planning of this was years in the making.
We lost our small business thanks to the lockdown and interestingly Boris lost his when he refused to lockdown again at Christmas, cost Gates and co a packet, so he had to be public ally punished.
Metabiota.
I know Kevin Shipp….. CIA thrown out whistle blower…is not popular with many.
Metabiota.
Virus could be from any place on the planet… transported concentrated, transported by infected carriers. Disinformation…. information war fare…. is the highest form of war fare.
https://vimeo.com/714978840
https://vimeo.com/726342980
‘dying with Covid’ . was favoured in UK because Boris Johnson regime passed a Coronavirus Act in 2020 which changed the law on death certificates.
As a security measure TWO doctors are required to sign off on a Death Certificate – one independently of the other. On an English certificate causes of death are read bottom to top with most proximate cause at top.
With Coronavirus Act 2020 putting “Covid” down as cause of death obviated need for second doctor to validate cause of death; AND gave clinicians IMMUNITY from liability issues or need for autopsy.
So any hospital/nursing home wishing to avoid any scrutiny or liability issues would opt for “covid” as cause of death
Related topic: chemical weapons in UKR war
by – Christelle Néant
Translation by Яннис В.Зброек for Donbass Insider
BZ, C-S-RIOT, C-R-RIOT,
https://www.donbass-insider.com/2023/03/01/russia-warns-of-potential-us-chemical-weapons-provocation-in-ukraine/
According to the head of the Russian NRBC (Nuclear, Radiological, Biological and Chemical) protection troops, General Igor Kirillov, the list of equipment provided includes over 55,000 sets of personal protective equipment, 55,000 gas masks and 13,000 individual first aid kits for gas victims with priority given to antidotes for organophosphate agents such as sarin and soman – 600,000 ampoules, anti-seizure drugs – 3 million tablets, detoxification preparations for mustard gas, lewisite and hydrocyanic acid chloroacetophenone inhibitors – 750,000 vials.
Excerpt:
“…The tracing of the origin of the novel coronavirus must be constantly deepened according to scientific principles. The conclusions and proposals in the previous report, submitted by a team of experts after a 28-day investigation in China and published by WHO on March 30, must be respected and preserved. In the second phase of tracing the origin of the virus, the relevant work must be undertaken with a focus on the other countries and areas severely affected by the epidemic. The United States, where most of the world’s confirmed infections and deaths have been reported, should obviously become the focus of the next phase of the global viral origin tracing investigation.
The U.S. Fort Detrick bio-lab and the outbreak of “mysterious pneumonia” near the lab in the fall of 2019 should be watched particularly closely and be the research focus of the WHO plan for the 2nd phase of the virus origin search.
There is now growing evidence that the COVID-19 virus has emerged earlier than thought in many places around the world. The spread of the pandemic could be attributed to multiple virus sources. Thus, it is necessary to launch a comprehensive virus origin search in several areas worldwide. In March 2020, U.S. Internet users launched a petition on the White House website calling on the U.S. government to provide the real reason for the closure of the Fort Detrick laboratory. In the face of doubts from various quarters, the U.S. government has always remained silent. According to the New York Times, the lab’s research involves certain toxins that the government has deemed “a serious threat to human, animal and plant health or to plant and animal products.”
To date, the U.S. still has not answered the international community’s biggest question: What is the connection between the Fort Detrick bio lab and the unexplained respiratory illnesses “caused by e-cigarettes”? Why has the U.S. not yet invited the WHO to thoroughly investigate the Fort Detrick bio lab?…”
The U.S. immediately said that the lung inflammations occurred due to cannabis vaporizer devices. I know this because I had cannabis stocks. That was an issue especially when Corona had already started. I noticed that immediately at the time.
Then a few weeks after the Fort Detrick lab shut down, the military games happened in Wuhan. The U.S. team didn’t take gold as usual, but was there with very few military athletes who were not top notch. Everything was kept to a minimum.
I don’t think the talk that it broke out in Wuhan is correct.
Mr. Johnson, many thanks for this article and all the others. You provide a glimmer of light in all the darkness that engulfs us. However, I was surprised that you did not mention Jeffrey Sachs’ outstanding work as head of the Lancet Commission on Covid-19. He essentially threw back the veil of secrecy and revealed the cunning of those who participated in the cover-up starting three years ago. A criminal investigation for negligent homicide of 15 million people should be conducted.
I’d just like to say that doing gain of function research on nasty viruses etc. strikes me as extremely dangerous, foolhardy, unnecessary, and well nigh insane. Doing deliberate modifications to the genome of these things, is playing with fire.
No different than collateral damage, fancy name for biological weapons research.
Fun watching Fauci messing up the new new name they have for it at the hands of Rand Paul.
The Empire dictionary would be a handy reference manual in these times. 1984 book turned into the Empire plan.
Oldest game in the world psychos ruling the world, it’s just really easy to see now.
Connecting the dots can be a difficult game if the dots are not numbered. I do know though that if you miss a dot it changes the picture sometimes dramatically.
In the Covid game there are a few dots missing here, one of then is the strong indications of Covid virus research the biolabs in Ukraine. The Russians have reportedly found documentation mentioning the disease in mid 2019 before it was identified in the west and China. We know the Biden’s had financial interest in these labs and they received US funding.
The presence of this has been reportedly offered to the UN by Russia and investigations vetoed by the US and the UK – this is very suspicious.
It is clear that the virus was given to the WIV as well as federal funds with which to do experiments. The lab-leak hypothesis appears credible but it doesn’t connect all the dots. The Ukraine connection is missing. The mysterious “vaping illness” (test run) that disappeared, the illnesses suffered by participants in the Military Games held in that region of China.
Then we have the big dot of the extreme hysterical reaction to Russia’s SMO. Invading other countries is seasonal sport for the US but somehow the epitome of evil when the Russians do it? The Russians at least has a defendable cause, the US almost never does, at least one that holds up to scrutiny.
A scenario that connects more of the dots:
This outbreak was planned for years, prior patents on the vax and elements of the virus are in public record. Researcher Karen Kingston found them. Event 201 was the dry-run. Bill Gates has been running his mouth on this for a long time, basically telegraphing the entire plan.
The Ukraine biolabs have been shrouded in intense secrecy and funded with dark money, Biden connected groups, and in Ukraine, zero oversight, grease the correct palms and you can do anything from sex trafficking to money laundering, drug and gun running and I’d be willing to bet human experimentation. None of this is surprising.
Do whet do you do, exactly what they did, play dumb, deny, deny, deny. Once you cannot deny anymore you point the finger at the convenient scapegoat – China, hell even they believed it for a while.
So now yes, it is engineered, can’t deny it anymore. But we warm and fuzzy Americans didn’t do it it was those sloppy Chinese, can’t do anything right. People believe it because their Chinese vacuum cleaner just smoked 2 days out of warranty, nothing they make is any good so why would the biolabs be any better?
I think China was framed. The US is 100% behind this.
Largely my sentiments, and I would add the WEF/globalist cabal is in there too. This was deliberate, and the CIA/military has fingerprints on it as well since it looks a lot like psyops, and the British military was in on it in the UK, putting together the publicity narrative.
The lockdowns worked so well they’re already hyping them for climate change, along with the 15 minute cities, which are a version of restricting peoples’ movements, along with electric vehicles that have no range and the grid can’t support.
We’ll see how it all plays out as the disparate players forming the “elite” start fragmenting as they don’t have completely mutual interests. You can only trust those who have the same interests/priorities, so they’ll be fighting among themselves soon, i think.
The MIC needs the dollar, the WEF wants to destroy it. That’s a pretty key divergence. Push gets to shove, my money’s on the guys with the guns.
I agree. The scheme is doomed to failure.
Plus Gates thinks he will run the world, practically owning majority interest in the WHO and with the Pandemic Treaty he thinks he will rule the world through Tedros who-the-fuck.
All we need to do is say “no” , mean it and be willing to back it up.
I think there are enough of us.
All of this furor is based on a single article in the WSJ.
The author of the WSJ article co-wrote articles in the NYT with Judith Miller pushing Saddam’s WMD program in 2002.
What a coincidence!
Not sure if previously noted but the Michael Gordon, the author of the WSJ article, is the same Gordon, who was a key journo agent hyping the WMD/Iraq war disaster when he was with the NYT. He has not lost his role in hyping war threats, just another stage.
I’ve been a skeptic of the US death numbers attributed to Covid, since hospitals were financially incentivized BIG TIME to attribute causes of death to Covid. To compare, they were compensated by Medicare approximately $5,000 for pneumonia deaths, but $13,000 for non-intubated Covid deaths, and up to $39,000 for intubated Covid deaths.
Meanwhile, deaths attributed to influenza diminished GREATLY during the Covid pandemic. Odd, to say the least.
Most US Covid deaths were among the very elderly, especially those with comorbidities.
I point this out because arguably, the US POLITICAL and CULTURAL response to the virus has been more damaging, and unfortunately it continues.
I agree with Larry and those who suspect the timing of this lab leak admission (and the curious fact that it was made by the US Department of Energy) seems to be either an effort to burnish negative sentiment against the US’ main economic rival, China, and/or a Biden attempt to Wag The Dog. In any case, how on earth can we rid ourselves of the influence wielded by warmongering racketeers and psychos?
Intrepid investigator Dr David Martin has made a video in which he exposes the Research reports, NIH and NIAID contracts, and PATENTS which prove that the COVID virus was lab made, obviously intentionally released, so the Big Farma cabal could invoke the Emergency Use Authorization route to avoid liability for a huge crime against humanity.
That crime is ongoing, and Congress refuses to look at the historical record of how Dr Fauci funneled money to certain universities and the Wuhan lab to create this ‘novel virus,’ novel because it was bioengineered, mostly at UNC Chapel Hill, using NIH funding. Bioweapons Crimes Revealed. 27:37
[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOex5dIydcM&ab_channel=ActivateHumanity ]
The fact that Youtube has not taken this video down after ~21 hours could be because it has only been seen 379 (now, after ~36 hours, 643) times, or because the military stands ready to claim that said development was part of a military countermeasures program which apparently they feel is not reviewable by civilian authorities.
That is not what our Constitution says, but the corporate government ignores the Constitution with impunity, apparently believing that it controls all the courts, so no cabal players will ever be tried for any crimes. We’ll see about that, hopefully before Central Bank Digital Currency is rolled out, because that agenda will effectively silence all critics, who will just be unpersoned when they post information contrary to the cabal narrative.
“It leaked and spread rapidly because it was aerosolized so it could efficiently infect bats in caves,” USMC Major Murphy says.
MIT states: “The genetic code of SARS-CoV-2 does not resemble that of any virus the WIV was known to be culturing in its lab. . . .”
What came to be called ‘SARS CoV-2’ was 1] man made; and 2] released into the wild, as a vaccine, on purpose, according to USMC Major Joseph Murphy, who wrote in August 2021 that this happened via aerosolization, as ‘bat vaccine’, targeting bats in the wild. Exactly where this happened he did not specify in publicly available information, to date.
This, according to information via Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisconsin, published, [viz. the major’s August 2021 report to US Military IG]; & this research, under auspices: EcoHealth/Daszak.
The Murphy information states aerosolized bat vax activity “was conducted until it was shut down in April 2020.” MIT report confirms this date.
This was, Murphy says: “the EcoHealth Program, called DEFUSE,” and “EcoHealth submitted the proposal first to the Department of Defense, before it settle with NIH/NIAID. . .and was submitted by Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance. . .As is known, Dr. Fauci with NIAID did not reject the proposal. The work took place at the WIV and at several sites in the US.”
The Murphy information also states “escape” happened in context of project’s work vaccinating bats, via aerosolization, as follows: “It leaked and spread rapidly because it was aerosolized so it could efficiently infect bats in caves, but it was not ready to infect bats yet, which is why it does not appear to infect bats. The reason the disease is so confusing is because it is less a virus than it is engineered spike proteins hitch-hiking a ride on a SARSr-CoV quasispecies swarm. The closer it is to the final live attenuated vaccine form, the more likely that it has been deattenuating since initial escape in August 2019.”
Murphy does not provide more information on exactly where this escape in August 2019 happened, and other relevant details, according to information Johnson published.
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As I recall, Trump, Cotton, Pompeo, et. al. circa January 2020 were pushing a version of narrative recently reported in WSJ, that Snowden retweeted — saying this version was suppressed/censored/banned by big tech and big media at the time — and which Moon of Alabama then labeled Snowden “Idiot,” ostensibly because Moon deemed this limited hangout material and essentially accused the whistleblower of assisting US/NATO/neo-empire propaganda, and so on and so forth, to malign Chinese.
As one can glean from what Murphy wrote, concept and usage of “leak” in this discourse can mean many things to many people.
What came to be called ‘SARS CoV-2’ was 1] man made; and 2] released into the wild on purpose, according to Murphy. He reported this information to Military IG in effort to prevent our military people from being forced to take the covid shots, due to their harm, their failure to prevent disease or stop transmission. And that prophylactics such as cholorquines/IVT available and are effective, if covid infection and public health is the concern.
The marine said the DOD “rejected the [Dazsak] program proposal because vaccines would be ineffective and because the spike proteins being inserted into the variants were deemed too dangerous (gain-of-function); and that the DOD now mandates vaccines that copy the spike protein previously deemed too dangerous. To me, and to those informed of my analysis, this situation meets no-go or abort criteria with regards to the vaccines until the toxicity of the spike protein can be investigated.”
Murphy says: “The intent was to perform this task against humanized mice and the ‘batified’ mice. Instead, it was done with the world’s population.”
For what it’s worth, in an email that first surfaced publicly last week, — shows the so-called ‘batwoman’ at WIV, Shengli castigating Baric, and accusing him of fueling politicization of science.
If Shengli is to be believed, i.e., gof@WIV/China producing SARS-CoV2 is chimera, — & did not happen, — then: don’t we have a replication of Colin Powell at UN Security Council, with vial in hand, blaming Hussein/Iraq for WMD?
Her April 29, 2020 email to Baric followed on heals of Newsweek report, in which Baric quoted, stating: “The only way to resolve it,” says Baric, “is transparency and open science and have some real investigation into it. I don’t think the Chinese are going to allow that. I don’t know what any country would do in this situation. I would like to think that the U.S. would be transparent.”
Trump, Pompeo, Cotton, et. al., either had a smoking gun in January 2020 or they did not.
Three years later, WTF is going on?
Now we have Biden, Blinken, Burns mongering for war with China?
https://www.newsweek.com/controversial-wuhan-lab-experiments-that-may-have-started-coronavirus-pandemic-1500503
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpnfvGgXoAEt7DG?format=jpg&name=small
My main comment on Newsweek April 27, 2020 narrative is its journalism failure, stating: “A spurious theory that the U.S. deliberately planted the virus in Wuhan also started circulating.” Really? What is admittedly unknown by definition cannot be spurious, or fake, or made up and a-priori deemed false. Either we want the facts or we don’t. In this instance, Newsweek demonstrably did not know facts and made conclusions. This pattern of not knowing facts while assuming we do, ongoing, in the all things covid matters, etc.
The June 2021 MIT states that NIH “have concerns that WIV has not satisfied safety requirements under the award, and that EcoHealth Alliance has not satisfied its obligations to monitor the activities of its subrecipient.” Pray tell, who funded the Dazsak research, Mary Poppins? or NIH? And why hasn’t NIH come clean? Why?
MIT states: “The genetic code of SARS-CoV-2 does not resemble that of any virus the WIV was known to be culturing in its lab. . . .”
Back in 1970s, a professor, a mid-east expert, lamented that the “Middle East is the Graveyard of Scholarship.” This, in part due to its politicization. . . .
There are many cross-links between the bioweapon OP in Wuhan and the operations at dozens of bioweapon laboratories in Ukraine. Same progenitor and related viral warfare research. Where did the Ukraine research move after those labs were shutdown by the war? There is some evidence that much of it was transferred back to the UK, which explains why the Brits are so desperate to keep Ukraine in the club and prevent any future investigation of what the Kagans were up to there.
Soo alot of people get sick, lets use the pcr test o everyone have covid but but lets check for other diseases yes thats all positiv also. Oh i feel siik today normaly i get flu this time of the year but but flu is extincted. 2019 and before Lombardy started with injection obligatory , where was the faked burial parads? The extra dead in statisks didn’t show up before the treatments for covid. There are now covid , corona virus is the stam and every one learning medicin know thats untreatable. Madonna like to ues corona type printer. The world have become a world with idiot logic. No one has to serv correct info you earn better without, give scary info that sell. In sweden they treated people with problem to breath with morfin to relax soo when their natural instinct gave signals of to much co2 in the blod it was muted, and died. No one has been investigated but doctors complaining have been stripped of their licens. For more chech the spanish flu, i call it the us flu.
Thoughts? (a comment from UNZ)
USAMRIID, a US military bio lab almost certainly leaked a disease in 2019
In mid July 2019 the CDC shut down USAMRIID, an army biolab that does research related to “countering biological weapons that adversaries may have”. At the time of this shutdown they claimed there was no danger to the public or lab workers. But in 2020 when a reporter received all communications and inspection reports between the CDC and USAMRIID from 2018-2019, the lies about the shutdown of USAMRIID came to light. And the seriousness and likelihood of a disease leaked into the community became clear.
USAMRIID wasn’t shut down because the CDC found problems during an inspection. They were shutdown because USAMRIID reported 2 breaches of containment to the CDC. Here is the report, go to page 80 of 124. The formatting is weird though so when you get to page 78 it goes to page 1 of 18. https://archive.org/details/cdc-foia-usamriid/page/2/mode/1up?view=theater
Here we see the departure is labeled: serious, immediate action, violating 42 CFR 73 – 12b, and requiring a root cause analysis. The example of this type of departure given by the CDC is on page 3 of this form. A “Release that has the potential to result in a laboratory-acquired infection in humans without identification of root cause”.
https://www.selectagents.gov/compliance/docs/FSAP-Enforcement-Severity-Spreadsheet.pdf
And the reasons they give for the redactions in this point are labeled: 42 USC 262a (h)(1)(d). A law which says: (D) “No federal agency shall disclose any notification of a release of a listed agent or toxin”.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?hl=false&edition=prelim&req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title42-section263a-1&num=0&saved=%7CKHRpdGxlOjQyIHNlY3Rpb246MjYyYSBlZGl0aW9uOnByZWxpbSk%3D%7C%7C%7C0%7Cfalse%7Cprelim
Page 80 of the of the inspection finding show that at the very least these breaches infected a lab worker at USAMRIID. But based on the CLCAC video on this shutdown, it shows that the a member of the community (an individual not in BPRP) was monitored by public health officials. You can see in the meeting here at around (1:12:00).
https://cityoffrederick.granicus.com/player/clip/4037?view_id=25&redirect=true&h=374afe5187c063ddb409a3170b35d7e4
So what this shows is that USAMRIID had 2 breaches of containment which resulted in the lab leaking a disease or multiple diseases to the community, infecting non lab workers.
Now you may be asking so why didn’t we see this disease? And the answer is simple, we did, the same week fort Detrick was shutdown a retirement home less than 50 miles away from the base sent samples of an unknown disease to the CDC. This unknown respiratory virus at Greenspring killed 3 residents, hospitalized 20, and sickened close to 100 in this retirement home, all in the span of 2 weeks. But get this, this wasn’t the only outbreak, the state of Virginia warned doctors and residents that they were seeing a far higher number of respiratory illnesses and outbreaks across the state compared to other summers. They sent this report out less than a week after the shutdown at USAMRIID. And although this Greenspring outbreak was eventually blamed on rhinovirus, a cause of the common cold, this doesn’t make sense. For one, the common cold isn’t deadly enough or infectious enough to be able to do this in 2 weeks. And second, only 4/27 samples tested were positive for rhinovirus.
So in summary, Fort Detrick leaked 1 or multiple diseases before the end of June 2019, resulting in infections in the surrounding community.
It’s extremely difficult for me to believe that Covid originated in a Wuhan lab given the time frame involved. I contracted Covid in July of 2019, and never traveled far (if at all) from my residence in relatively rural NE part of the US. The symptoms began with a dry cough that persisted for about 4 days, at which time the cough was wracking and painful to experience. That dissipated, and about 4 or 5 days later I came down with full-blown covid that produced symptoms so bizarre it was unlike anything I’d ever experienced. Low-grade fever and intermittent nerve pains, body aches, along with headaches that would travel around my head, eyes and jaw in the course of the night. In the final phases I had fatigue so profound that it was all I could do to walk from my bed to the bathroom and back. It culminated in what I later discovered to be a loss of my sense of taste…which I didn’t even know was a thing. I remember thinking even water tasted bad. I slept a LOT. The whole experience, from start to finish, lasted about a month. The headaches, and some of the odd pains responded to OTC medications, like Tylenol. By the time I got a doctor’s appointment, having called him about three weeks into it, I was much better. He tested me (negatively) for Lyme, and that was that. At no time did I think I was going to die. I just didn’t know if I was ever going to get better. Months later, when Covid became well-known, I read a reliable list of symptoms and was shocked to find out that this was what I had. I’d been searching for some time to discover any disease of any kind that could have produced my symptoms. Only Covid fit the bill, and it was a perfect fit.
I searched various databases and online sites in an attempt to discover how my case was even possible. One particular site that struck home was a reddit thread that has since been scrubbed. I saved it, will paste it below. and apologize for the length. Not saying it’s true. Not saying it isn’t. I don’t know. Here it is:
Fort Detrick Covid-19 Leak theory
Origin of Covid-19
I started doing research on COVID-19 back in February. For around a month I was doing an ungodly amount of research into it, my main goal was trying to find where the novel virus came from. Although I am not certain I do believe there is a possibility that it leaked from Fort Detrick, an army biomedical facility in Fredrick Maryland which through its history has done research on Ebola, AIDS, and many other very dangerous pathogens. I have no actual evidence that this is the origin of COVID-19, however through my research I have found WAY TO MUCH circumstantial evidence that’s points to it leaking from Fort Detrick. So let’s get into the theory.
June 24, 2019: Congress passes and President Trump signs a bipartisan bill designed to reauthorize prior pandemic response programs and enhance pandemic preparedness called the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness and Advancing Innovation Act (PAHPAIA).
On July 11 2019 the Fairfax County Health Department reported a respiratory outbreak in the green spring retirement home in Fairfax Virginia. The first cases were seen starting June 30th. Greenspring is a 56 mile drive from Fort Detrick. The first case was reported on June 30th and by July 11th more than 50 people had become ill with 18 hospitalizations and 2 deaths. For almost a month the CDC and Fairfax department of health could not find the cause of this disease, calling it a “mysterious respiratory disease”.
Greenspring Outbreak article: https://abcnews.go.com/US/respiratory-outbreak-investigated-retirement-community-54-residents-fall/story?id=64275865
Here is the full Fairfax health departments timeline of events. https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/health/outbreak-investigation-assisted-living-facility-springfield
The CDC was sent a letter to Fort Detrick on July 12th and then on July 15th they sent a cease and desist order because of a failed safety inspection, stating they could not release some information because of “national security reasons”. The CDC found many breaches of protocol with how fort Detrick was running. With one of them being that their water treatment was not working correctly.
Shut down article: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/11/24/cdc-inspection-findings-reveal-more-about-fort-detrick-research-suspension.html
By July 2019 Maryland was reporting an increased number of respiratory cases statewide.
https://wtop.com/virginia/2019/07/va-health-officials-warn-of-increased-respiratory-illnesses-greenspring-says-no-new-cases/
At the exact same time as this unknown respiratory outbreak the “vaping related lung illness” (vapi) began spreading through the US. I believe the vaping related lung illness was actually COVID. Only 75% of the people who got this “vaping related lung illness” said they vaped. And we know that if you vape COVID could become more severe. The symptoms of the Greenspring outbreak, vapi, and COVID are all eerily similar, as well as the scans of the people’s lungs look very similar.
July 2019: The Trump administration eliminates an American public health position designed to detect disease outbreaks in China
Look at this graph released by the CDC, the cases of vaping related lung illness line up exactly with the outbreak at Greenspring and shutdown of fort Detrick.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html
Then in September of 2019 $200 million dollar program to help find outbreaks in other countries was not renewed by the government. This program was supposed to help find pandemics and outbreaks before they started in places like China and other countries. This is before the first confirmed cases anywhere in the world.
October 2019: The Trump administration concludes a months-long simulation, code-named “Crimson Contagion,” designed to respond to a global influenza pandemic. The Department of Health and Human Services determines that the U.S. is underprepared, underfunded, and under-coordinated to fight an influenza-like pandemic.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/trump-scrapped-pandemic-early-warning-program-system-before-coronavirus
Then on the 18th of October 2019 event 201 was held which was a exercise to see how we would handle a global outbreak. It was put on by Johns Hopkins. The virus they used as an example was a “sars like virus they is more transmissible and less deadly”…. or in other words COVID-19. Many organizations attended (including former head of the CIA under the Obama administration) the event and if you have not watched it yet I would highly recommend looking it up on YouTube and watching all the parts.
Then when the virus started to become mainstream in the US WE WERE NOT TESTING ALMOST ANYONE. The requirements to be tested at the start of the COVID-19 outbreak in the US were that you had to have either traveled to China, or come in contact with someone who had the coronavirus. I believe this was to buy us time and shift blame to China. At the same time when South Korea was testing tens of thousands of people a day the US was testing less than a hundred. The US is obviously just as capable at testing than other countries, but we simply did not do it. The CDC also claimed early tests were faulty because they had been “tainted with coronavirus”.
You might ask, if it leaked from fort Detrick then why was it first seen in China and why did the US not have a enormous increase in respiratory cases first. This is because in mid-February and most likely even earlier the virus had mutated on its spike protein causing it to become far more transmissible. This mutation increases r0 by 5 or 6 times, meaning it becomes 5 or 6 times more transmissible.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/evidence-builds-that-an-early-mutation-made-the-pandemic-harder-to-stop/
https://www.rt.com/news/487849-coronavirus-mutating-contagious-strain/
Then when the virus started to become mainstream in the US WE WERE NOT TESTING ALMOST ANYONE. The requirements to be tested at the start of the COVID-19 outbreak in the US were that you had to have either traveled to China, or come in contact with someone who had the coronavirus. I believe this was to buy us time and shift blame to China. At the same time when South Korea was testing tens of thousands of people a day the US was testing less than a hundred. The US is obviously just as capable at testing than other countries, but we simply did not do it. The CDC also claimed early tests were faulty because they had been “tainted with coronavirus”.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/cdcs-failed-coronavirus-tests-were-tainted-with-coronavirus-feds-confirm/
Also the early tests all had to be sent back to the CDC to get the results.
Then in the early stages of the outbreak a Seattle lab was told they could not test flu samples for coronavirus because it breached the privacy of the patients.
https://www.businessinsider.com/seattle-flu-study-coronavirus-testing-washington-2020-3?op=1
It was only after this lab defied the orders that they found the first cases of communal spread in the United States. Chu, the doctor doing the tests without permission from the FDA and CDC, stated they found the first case “pretty quickly” by testing the samples. Even after they had found multiple cases and confirmed communal spread of COVID-19 in the Seattle area, they received letters from the CDC and FDA to stop their testing for COVID multiple times. The doctors said at the end of the article that “they believe that they will find evidence that the virus was infecting people even earlier, and that they could have alerted authorities sooner if they had been allowed to test.”
https://theweek.com/speedreads/901405/seattle-lab-uncovered-washingtons-coronavirus-outbreak-only-after-defying-federal-regulators
And now some scientists are saying they believe the virus started in THE SUMMER OF 2019!!! The exact time fort Detrick was shut down and the mysterious respiratory and vaping illnesses began exploding.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/new-coronavirus-may-have-emerged-in-summer-2019-study/ar-BB15hwYs
I know none of this is actually proof, but everything I have said in this post is FACT. If I didn’t provide an article for one of my statements then please point it out to me and I will provide the article.
Here I will give a very short overview and my view of what happened. I think that in late June or possible even earlier, COVID and possible other pathogens were leaked from fort Detrick because of their inadequate security protocols and their water treatment machine which was not working correctly. COVID this mysterious illness began spreading around the US. In retirement homes and among old people the doctors probably just thought it was a bad case of the flu because we were having a bad flu season. This is entirely possible considering rapid flu tests have a 50-70% accuracy rating and many of the tests are false negatives. Meaning even if the person has the flu the test might show they do not. This means that even if someone tests negative for the flu doctors might believe the test have a false negative and tell the patient they probably just have the flu. COVID could have been going under the radar for normal doctors for a long time. The US was just trying to wait till another country, specifically China got the virus so that they could shift blame to them. When the D614G mutation happened, the virus began spreading much faster and could no longer be overlooked. It was an easy thing to blame on China considering the SARS virus was believed to begin in China and covid-19 is very similar to SARS. Then in the early stages of 2019 the US delayed testing and claimed tests were faulty or either purposely created faulty tests so that it was not suspicious that we had so many more cases than other countries. But the CDC was only allowed to test people who visited Wuhan, pinning it on China.
Another thought I have is if it did not leak from fort Detrick why are there no articles showing that samples from Greenspring have been tested and covid was not present? That would have been a very easy way do dispel the Fort Detrick conspiracy.
Now I will ask for your guys sleuthing help to see if we can gather some more information that it leaked from Fort Detrick.
1.) If we find when the CDC did the inspection of Fort Detrick.
2.) If we could find when event 201 was planned.
3.) if we could find out all the pathogens that fort Detrick had and see if there are outbreaks of those diseases as well.
4.) Have there been other unknown respiratory outbreaks in retirement homes that fit the COVID-19 description between June-December 2019.
5.) If we find any evidence that US health guidelines changed or if the CDC was trying to coverup anything.
6.) If you can think of anything else that might help us put the pieces together and fill the timeline.
Thanks for reading. Let’s get to the bottom of this.
EXCELLENT post!!!
Going on this, in response to your #1… I found this saying that the CDC inspected Ft. Detrick in June. This article is from August 2, 2019… there are a few articles about the subject when you google “CDC inspection of Fort Detrick”
https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/health/fort-detrick-lab-shut-down-after-failed-safety-inspection-all-research-halted-indefinitely/article_767f3459-59c2-510f-9067-bb215db4396d.html
For your #2… the Center for Health Security were the ones to coordinate the EVent 201… on their page for it, they say ” Similar to the Center’s 3 previous exercises—Clade X, Dark Winter, and Atlantic Storm—Event 201 aimed to educate senior leaders at the highest level of US and international governments and leaders in global industries. ”
So the planning for something that major probably takes at least a year or more (known from experience of planning 2-3 day conferences that hosted 300+). Considering Dark Winter occurred in 2001, you can probably assume planning for it started in 1999/2000 and each event gets discussed soon after the one before it. So these are ongoing “exercises” that began that far back.
* Dark Winter happened in June 2001.
* Atlantic Storm happened in January 2005.
* Clade X happened in May 2018.
* Event 201 happened in October 2019.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
#3. According to this article… ” Detrick is today one of the world’s cutting-edge laboratories for research into toxins and antitoxins, the place where defenses are developed against every plague, from crop fungus to Ebola. Its leading role in the field is widely recognized. ”
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/09/15/cia-fort-detrick-stephen-kinzer-228109
This article says they had 2 containment breaches in the year, piblished November 2019…
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-fort-detrick-containment-breaches
#4. I can’t figure out how to find past info on respiratory outbreaks that don’t lead to COVID articles or articles about the nursing home that you discussed.
#5. & No ideas on what to search to find that info that hasn’t probably already been scrubbed. Maybe waybackmachine?
Crimson contagion (2019) much more relevant here than 2001 Dark winter.
The exercise involved many departments:
Between January and August 2019, Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), headed by Alex Azar, runs a simulation—code-named “Crimson Contagion”. In this “Functional Exercise”, participated the National Security Council, United States Department of Health and Human Services, United States Department of Agriculture, United States Department of Commerce, United States Department of Defense, United States Department of Energy, United States Department of Homeland Security, United States Department of Housing and Urban Development, United States Department of Interior, United States Department of Justice, United States Department of Labor, United States Department of State, United States Department of Transportation, United States Department of Treasury, between others State and Local organizations, public and private.
During the simulation, several tourists fall ill with a “respiratory virus [that] began in China . . . [and] quickly spread around the world by air travelers . . . [with] high fevers.” The virus spreads quickly throughout the world with the first detection in the United States occurring in Chicago (the host city for the exercise). The simulated virus was dubbed “H7N9 Influenza”. Conduct of Crimson Contagion begins at a point 47 days after the first case is discovered in the United States. According to the results of the coordinating draft report, dated October 2019, the Crimson Contagion simulation registers 110 million infected Americans, 7.7 million hospitalizations, and 586,000 fatalities.
Did it come from the wild or from a lab? If from a lab, whose lab, and who was working there and who funded it and was its release a mistake or was it on purpose?
I have throughout the past three years had little interest in these question because I have felt that at any one time, I had better things to do with my eyeballs and brain cells, so I guess I am and will remain agnostic about the origin story of Covid-19.
The important point to focus on now, which as I understand it is the point of this post, is “why are we being given this narrative now?” Even true information has its place in the machinery of manipulative propagandistic BS. In fact, if I recall correctly, modern philosophers tell us that the difference between a liar and a bullshitter is that a liar knows the truth status of what he says, and a bullshitter doesn’t care and will use truth and lies mixed together without necessarily even knowing which is which, as long as they serve his purpose.
While it is mostly a chicken-and-egg argument, as no shit, the US DOD and NIH is involved up to their armpits, and using this to prime the CHINA BAD!!! narrative – it’s all moot.
However, more interesting is this: Can you prove there was a pandemic?
Easy answer, in short, is no, no one can.
A few things to dig into if this sounds insane:
-Research WHO changes to the definition of what constitutes a pandemic. Pre mid 20-teens, it used to require a lot of dead people. Now, no dead people, just a lot of “cases”.
-What constitutes a “case”, according to the CDC? Look up Covid case definition and then another respiratory disease, such as Legionnaires disease. Look up a few more for good cause (recommend NOT looking at Flu definition – that one’s a PSYOP also). Short of it is this: all diseases used to require clinical symptoms AND a positive test. Covid19, no clinical symptoms, only a positive test required.
And now for the bait and switch, aka how you fake a pandemic:
-Research where the genetic profile used for the PCR test – see Christian Drosten and the 24-hour peer approval of his COMPUTER-GENERATED DNA sequence.
-Research what Cary Mullins says about the PCR test.
-Research cycle counts and testing thresholds, specifically what happens when you run the cycle count too high?
-In 2021 the NY Times was kind enough to answer this all for us, see their article on ~95% false positives from the PCR.
-Have you ever heard of “asymptomatic spread” or “asymptomatic positive” before? No, no you hadn’t, because there is no such thing.
Now put this all together and ask the question again: Can you prove there was a pandemic?
We can prove that a computer-generated DNA sequence that may or may not match a single thing in nature was used at a cycle threshold nearing where you get 100% false positives.
Do you remember the death number counters everywhere in 2020?
When the death numbers failed to pan out, remember how the narrative changed gears to case numbers? Remember all those “asymptomatic cases”?
Bonus points for the “but people died!!!” crowd:
Yes, people died.
How many of you heard of a covid death at home, vs at a hospital?
Most of those were death by ventilator and/or Remdesivir (research the African trials, over 50% death rate from kidney and liver toxicity) – remember those NYC doctor interviews – “we’ve never before seen a respiratory virus that leads to renal failure!”?
So now come back to the main question here, who is to blame for releasing Covid-19? Was anything new/novel/manmade even released?
You can’t get to proper answers if you never ask the correct question, and this, my friends, is how the narrative keeps chugging along.
-Former PSYOP Team Chief & Instructor, US Army
https://www.vesti.ru/article/3228306
Who profits from the supply of weapons to Kiev
“Millions of dollars in arms contracts are received for free promotion of Kiev’s interests,” the British The Guardian today went over those Americans who benefit from dragging out the conflict in Ukraine, but whose names no one really knows.
blood money
For example, former Senator Norm Coleman worked so well with the oligarch Pinchuk that in a few months he convinced three American arms companies at once to conclude a five-year contract for the supply of weapons to Ukraine. Coleman received $200,000 for the officially free “defense of Ukraine.” One and a half times more earned BGR – an American PR giant, with which several deputies of the Verkhovna Rada and Zelensky’s office cooperate at once. They did not like another unexpected move by the Americans: the NBC channel sent its correspondent not to Kyiv, but to the Crimea.
Americans in Crimea
As soon as White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan told the Americans that everything with Crimea might not be as simple as Zelensky likes to imagine, NBC discovered the peninsula on the map of Russia: they got on a train and drove across the bridge, which Ukraine is not I have been trying to blow it up for a long time.
Leaving the Sevastopol railway station, we found ourselves in a reality that for nine years they have been trying not to notice at close range. As in 2014, immediately after the referendum, both young and old want to be here together with Russia. And these are not just words – the Sevastopol residents admitted to the American that they were ready to defend their choice.
“If we don’t defend our Motherland, we will become slaves,” says a young Crimean resident.
And someone, like the son of this man, is already doing this as part of a special operation.
Kiev offended
The NBC report was watched with malice in Kiev. The author, Kira Simmons, has already begun to be threatened by the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry.
“For violators, legal liability is provided. In particular, a ban on entry to Ukraine is also provided for foreigners for such actions,” the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry wrote.
This is according to Ukrainian laws, which differ little from concepts – one hand in hand with the other. A day has not passed, and the photograph and personal data of Cyrus Simmons are already on the “Peacemaker”. Without the tacit consent of the United States, neither this resource nor the flow of weapons that the inveterate Nazis received in Ukraine would have existed for a long time. There are hearings in Congress on this topic with the participation of representatives of the Pentagon.
And then the argumentation, as in the “Peacemaker”. If the truth does not fit the template, then it means someone’s propaganda.
But Matt Goetz, the author of a recent resolution about fatigue from Ukraine, did not let up. The United States began to get tired of Ukrainian corruption.
“The infrastructure minister was arrested for stealing $400,000. The deputy head of Zelensky’s office can’t explain where the sports cars came from, so he had to resign. The deputy defense minister resigned because of corruption, but the Defense Ministry issued a statement that his resignation was a worthy deed,” says Goetz.
Zelensky threatens
But it would be okay only the material side. Now Zelensky not only wants to take money from the Americans, but demands that they pay with their lives for their unwillingness to sponsor Ukraine.
Not many in America need such a NATO. One of the first people to respond to Zelensky was Monica Crowley, former assistant secretary of the treasury in the Trump administration.
“Zelensky is now directly threatening us and declaring that American sons and daughters will have to fight and die for Ukraine. Hell no!” Crowley wrote.
sad memories
The moment adds a special piquancy to what has been said – Zelensky spoke less than three weeks before the twentieth anniversary of the start of the US war in Iraq. For 8 years, America has lost 4.5 thousand killed. Losses of the civilian population reach one and a half million. Parallels are already being drawn on the pages of American Thinker.
“The unwillingness of the West to recognize Russian realities will only lead to failure, like Iraq and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, at the time of this writing, our only strategy is to bleed the Russians at the expense of the endless bloody sacrifice of the Ukrainians,” the journalists write.
In Afghanistan, from where they had to hastily flee, the United States spent 3 trillion dollars. How much was stolen, they still count. But in terms of spending, Ukraine has already surpassed Afghanistan.
The total amount of financial assistance to Kyiv has exceeded 110 billion dollars. A year of the Food stamp food aid program cost 113 billion, but this program is being cut. Benefits are reduced by almost one and a half times – 42 million poor Americans are under attack. However, money continues to flow to Kiev.
The Minister of Finance is not coming, Biden will not be seen in East Palestine either. For Washington, the man-made disaster is over there, but it is not. Local residents who were near the crash site of a train with chemicals continue to complain about their health.
“I have numbness of the tongue, confusion, headache, dizziness. I talked to my neighbors, they feel the same way. My hands are still red. One of my neighbors, he is still here, says that his tongue is constantly goes numb, and his eyes are burning. This is crazy,” the victims complain.
And on the American railroads, meanwhile, another crash – the third in a month. Propane tanks derailed in Florida . The infrastructure needs to be updated, people need social support. The United States has where to spend its billions, and no matter how much Biden would like, not everything depends on him. So Zelensky, they say, began to look for approaches to the speaker of Congress, Republican McCarthy, without leaving the empty cash desk.
Excellent link giving background supporting the theory that COVID is the result of US research, maybe released deliberately (FBI Director Wray uses the word “incident” not “accident”):
https://www.newswars.com/dont-fall-for-the-wuhan-trap-establishment-suddenly-admits-covid-escaped-from-biolab/
Everything’s a cover story, it seems. If they’re all parroting this line, we know we’re being fed shit. It may have originated in the US, and research moved to places like Wuhan and Ukraine, funded via third party’s like Ecohealth to launder the funds and prevent oversight of what would be an illegal program.
As for a return to the present configuration of the players in the universal strife for hegemony or non-hegemony: the Thursday this week, it should be born in mind, is an extraordinaire day. Not only because of the meaningful transition of Saturn/father and Mercury/intelligence from Aquarius to Pisces, from idea to hunch, but also because of the conjunction of Venus with Jupiter on the battlefield in Aries. What does it mean?
A dramatic Thursday to behold by anyone, conscious of the archetypal landscape without and within us. Mankind is expected by the unconscious primeval streams within us for us as conscious observer
to become more humanlike men.
Astromundane diary 9. week 2023
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2023/03/dramatic-thursday-in-march-2023.html
What caught my attention during the COVID fiasco, was the level of coordination among the whole world when imposing lookdowns, masks, vaccines, and the lack of tolerance of any other ideas but the official ones. In my world, this is impossible without a good detailed plan, and various scenarios, all directed and rehearsed by a rather small group of people, in command.
So, I would buy that the Chinese knew how to build a deadly virus, but forgot to buy a lock on the fridge (where they kept the virus), and/or on the front door of the lab. However, I can’t buy the above details in coordination without a hefty budget, enough lead time, say at least 2-3 years for preparations, and what if scenarios, and trained staff (you can’t just get together a group of beer friends, today, and tomorrow declare world lockdown).
As an example, for the level of preparation necessary, take the sanctions imposed to Russia. The ‘west’ prepared these at least 3-4 years before Feb 24, 2022, and not a day before.
So, even if the COVID virus has anything Chinese in it, its formal development, release, and the actions AFTER its releasing have been prepared way before 2019.
“What caught my attention during the COVID fiasco, was the level of coordination among the whole world when imposing lookdowns, masks, vaccines, and the lack of tolerance of any other ideas but the official ones. In my world, this is impossible without a good detailed plan, and various scenarios, all directed and rehearsed by a rather small group of people, in command”.
No one has mentioned this so thanks Froggie.
This is old news to the well informed, so it won’t stir up much China hatred there. To those who bought into the wet market idea, it might cause a stir. Those folks believe anything the gov tells them. But the WHO was the biggest purveyor of the wet market lie. It will be much more interesting if the WHO has changed their tune as well as the US deep state. Even more interesting will be the complicated webs these people will weave to back out of their previous wet-market lies. Backing out of old lies and backing into the truth will have to be a mass coordinated effort for the UN, WHO, CIA, FBI, US, EU, etc. Just like the first wet-market lie required massive coordinated talking points and propaganda. Now they all have to turn on their friend China, oh boy. Lies can get very complicated.
There is indisputable evidence thanks to information provided by at least two defectors with direct ties to the Wuhan Lab (whose bona fides have been verified) that proves the COVID virus was created in the Wuhan Lab and escaped because of sloppy handling.
Hey Larry, the American intelligence community also knew for sure that Saddam had WMDs, according to “indisputable evidence” from some Iraqi defectors like Ahmad Chalabi.
In fact, defectors often have grudges against their old countries — that was why they defected. So they tell a lot of lies.
I’m surprised that an ex-CIA analyst like you don’t know this.
Don’t be a dumbass. There were several CIA officers who opposed Tenet and Powell lying about WMDS. Valerie Plame for one.
You miss my point, that defectors tend to be extremely untrustworthy. What defectors say about China’s lab leaks are about as reliable as Ahmad Chalabi’s statements about Iraq’s WMDs. Neither set of evidence is as “indisputable” as you claim.
Not in this case. I have some knowledge about these defectors and they brought documentary evidence to buttress their testimony.
Chalabi had lots of evidence too. In this interview on PBS, he said he had “an engineer who was involved in building sites for weapon storage and development”.
A second man had “information about mobile biological weapons labs, which they found”. (If I am not mistaken, some of these laboratories were indeed found: they were ice cream trucks.)
A third man was supposedly working on an “isotope separation facility”.
Unless cross-checked, documents aren’t more reliable than people. If you lack independent evidence, it’s a question of whom to trust. The US trusted Chalabi, and this turned a lot of people dead. Trusting the lab-leak people may yet turn everyone dead in a global nuclear war.
I am not disputing that Chalabi was a plant. These Chinese “defectors” did not approach the US government. I can’t share more.
And look what happened to her.
When we think the political leadership in our government couldn’t reach any lower point they install Biden and his horde of diversity hires who are an absolute collection of clueless imbeciles.
Have we finally reached the bottom of what’s available in society and we are not now scraping the bottom with the likes in all our places of leadership throughout the entire country.
America’s potential for real leadership has gone to seed.
It’s either that or TPTB are purposefully trying to destroy the Country.
Russia and China will without question ally together and obliterate the United States dollar and to the satisfaction of rest of the world destroy its economy ending the “rule based order” empire.
https://globalsouth.co/2023/02/28/america-the-worlds-bully/
War in Ukraine not going so well, regime change in Russia seems to be a non-starter, so it’s time to start a war with China?
Really? Does the US MICC (adding back in Congressional) think it can win a war against China?
That’s what confuses me most, that somehow we (US) are so powerful we create our own reality. That seems fundamental common underpinning of so much today. Some sort of infantile psychosis.
I found Robert Kennedy’s The Real Anthony Fauci to be an extraordinary book, although it said many things I already suspected or heard, but was put in a book to study and dissect. I think it’s brilliant, but I also see Kennedy is despised by many types, even conservatives.
What is useful about this book retaining to this thread is the methodical way many ‘illnesses’ are developed and shaped. Kennedy especially showed AIDS was far more deadly when Fauci was put in charge. Also, Kennedy follows the lab theory on Covid, and he documents, near the end of his book, military research labs operating all over the world. It’s obvious all of this sickness follows a pattern.
There is a lot of public discontent on Wuhan, but it’s noteworthy that the lab was Fauci’s, and Americans formed it. But the current scut is to blame it all on China and they’re ‘declaring war on us.’ I think the deep state is using this to (1) take the heat off them, and (2) Get Americans jazzed up for war with China. It’s so apparent that’s where they’re wanting us to go. I noted, almost to a man, the ‘conservative’ talk show types are all in for doing something to China ‘for what they did to us.’
The last shred of the America that went off to the Gulf War, what’s left of them, is willing to throw it all away for a chance to get China. It seems the ruling class is programmed for one last big, good war to finish China off, then it will be business-as-usual ad infinitum.
I am at age where I don’t believe in accidents nor coincidences and definitely not fairy tails. The US ran this global pandemic pyschops experiment and as in any good experiment you have to cover all bases and here they set up china as the fall guy. Worked I’d say except for the fact that you have a pissed off chairman of the ccp coming for you
Some links to be considered:
Pentagon was working on these viruses in China for some time:
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/
Once the genomes of any mammalian virus are published, they can be synthesized from scratch, anywhere:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jun/19/urgent-need-to-prepare-for-manmade-virus-attacks-says-us-government-report
EcoHealth Alliance was funded mostly by Pentagon, USAID and was deeply involved with Wuhan research:
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/news/peter-daszaks-ecohealth-alliance-has-hidden-almost-40-million-in-pentagon-funding/
When State Dept. personnel were pushing lab lead hypothesis, they were told not to because it would open up: “A Pandora’s box” and “A Can of Worms,” focusing unwelcome attention on U.S. financing of the Wuhan research.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins
Metabiota, networked with EcoHealth Alliance and Hunter Biden, was involved with Ukraine, Burisma:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10652127/Hunter-Biden-helped-secure-millions-funding-military-biotech-research-program-Ukraine.html
Metabiota was networked with Munich Reinsurance to provide pandemic insurance. Their business model in 2018 involved a “novel coronavirus” spreading around the world, precipitating “quarantining, social distancing, school closures”:
https://www.wired.com/story/nathan-wolfe-global-economic-fallout-pandemic-insurance/
Venture capital for the Metabiota/Munich Re project was provided by In-Q-Tel:
https://www.iqt.org/news/munich-re-in-q-tel-select-metabiota-to-gain-deeper-insights-into-epidemic-risk-and-global-preparedness-for-infectious-diseases/
A recent book alleges U.S. BW research behind development of SARS CoV-2;
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Truth-about-Wuhan/Andrew-G-Huff/9781510773882
Some interesting dots to connect here.
I don’t have time to read all of the comments. Let me just briefly ask, if it has not already been asked, ‘What is the relationship between Event 201 and the origin of this virus? if it was an accidental release, then was the October 2019 Event 201 staged to piggy-back on the accident? That would mean that Bill Gates and his buddies already knew about the release. However, if they didn’t know about the accident, then it was because IT WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT. What other explanations can there be?
Remember. The project moved to China in 2014. Very possible they were aware of the potential of the release. My point, this is not just the fault of China.
mr. Johnson- way to go woody harrelson. i think he always was a rebel. probably is good publicity for his new movie; but it takes allot of guts to say this considering this could put his acting career in jeopardy
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/woody-harrelson-doubles-down-slams-covid-mandates-us-not-free-country
Alison Young and Jessica Blake, two investigative reporters, generated a very informative article in August 2020 that was posted at the Propublica website. This article went into some depth about the activities at the biolab facility at the University of North Carolina, under the control of Ralph Baric, and the relation with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. This article tries to play it down the middle with the questions of origination of the Covid-19, and the spread of the virus under discussion at the time. It does document, at least what the UNC wished to disclose, concerning several worrisome incidents (lab accidents) that might have led to pathogen releases from the UNC labs, but seemingly didn’t that are illustrative of the dangers of releases and the criticality of protocols addressing these issues. It is a very eye-opening treatment, and highly recommended.
https://www.propublica.org/article/near-misses-at-unc-chapel-hills-high-security-lab-illustrate-risk-of-accidents-with-coronaviruses
Now, Alison Young also wrote an article in March 2021 that was published in USA Today that had this title:
Could an accident have caused COVID-19? Why the Wuhan lab-leak theory shouldn’t be dismissed
I read that article at that time. It expanded upon the previous article at Propublica concerning lab accidents, and the potentials for pathogen releases to which these incidents may lead, citing a number of such accidents at various facilities. She had done a LOT of research about this topic, and what she reported was quite sobering. I tracked it down to her website, but lo and behold, it had been pulled from the USA Today archives. Huh… It needs to be recalled that speculations along the lines of accidental lab releases potentially being involved in the spread of Covid-19 were being actively disparaged, if not suppressed, at that time, and it seems to me that USA Today “got with the program” so to speak, and collaborated with the suppression. I just did a duckduckgo search on the title, and yep, it has been thoroughly scrubbed. Interesting, no?
Now, as to Bernhard’s take on this revival of the controversy, let’s first look to see what Edward Snowden posted that led him to call him “an idiot”:
Edward Snowden @Snowden – 15:36 UTC · Feb 26, 2023
Do you remember the “institutional” and social media corpo response in the first half of 2020 when someone contradicted the consensus? They were punished for the “crime” of “disinformation.”
Corporations must never again be permitted to police speech.
wsj.com
WSJ News Exclusive | Lab Leak Most Likely Origin of Covid-19 Pandemic, U.S. Agency Now Says
The Energy Department’s revised assessment of how the pandemic started is based on new intelligence.
Now, the way I read Mr. Snowden’s post was that he was saying that this new openness to the lab leak theory is potentially yet another example of the facts being fixed around a convenient narrative. The first time, the narrative was that the lab leak theory was ridiculous, and not acceptable. Now, the reverse is considered the most likely according to the new narrative being postulated by the DOE. In both instances, there is a concerted effort in the MSM to push a currently politically-expedient narrative as the God’s own truth, and this cannot ever again be acceptable. That is what I hear Snowden saying, not that he is making a judgment that either narrative is clearly correct.
Ah, but Bernhard is a total China fanboi, and since China can never be held to account – even if as Mr. Johnson has postulated that the US AND CHINA may both carry responsibility to some extent – even to articulate this possibility is categorically unacceptable. Who is trying to cement into place a narrative now?
Bernhard’s work on documenting and weighing the evidence on the situation in, and significance of the conflict in Ukraine has been quite exemplary. But here’s the thing; Snowden took real risks, and made genuine life-altering sacrifices in service of whistleblowing about serious illegal actions by the US government, and had to flee for his freedom, and perhaps even for his life. He valued truth and liberty that much. His post was a continuation of his values; i.e., truth should not be sacrificed so that some narrative convenient to those with bad intents can be advanced. That Bernhard distorts this so that one set of state actors of suspect integrity can get an unquestionable free pass tells me a lot about how much he can pose as a neutral advocate for truth.
“…There is indisputable evidence thanks to information provided by at least two defectors with direct ties to the Wuhan Lab (whose bona fides have been verified) that proves the COVID virus was created in the Wuhan Lab and escaped because of sloppy handling….”
Can you link us to this information, and the defectors’ bona fides? I still have (1) lab leak from US/Chinese lab in Wuhan; (2) natural evolution; and (3) US biowarfare as possibilities, none of which I know to be proven.
Thank you Larry for posting this essay, thank you Jersey-Jefferson for citing the wiped March 22, 2021 USA Today opinion piece of Allison Young, and Paul, posting apparently wiped Reddit thread and sharing illness & symptoms in summer 2019 aligning with covid disease.
The Young essay [see link below] refers to a statement published previous month, February 13, 2021 from newly installed President Biden’s National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, a paragraph, that is worth another look.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/02/13/statement-by-national-security-advisor-jake-sullivan/
For context, the WHO investigation was chaired by Jeffrey Sachs; he’d appointed Peter Dazsak to serve on this panel as an expert. Yes, this happened. Sachs would later [and this was fairly recently] apologize for his ignorance, claiming that at the time, . . . that he had no idea he had basically asked one of the perpetrators of the origins of covid fiasco/coverup [with Fauci & Baric, et. al] — to assist finding out its origins — a man with a lot to hide, let us say. Sachs would later say this was why the WHO investigation was dead on arrival, a spontaneous abortion, as it were.
And: Keeping in mind MIT has said, “The genetic code of SARS-CoV-2 does not resemble that of any virus the WIV was known to be culturing in its lab. . . .”
Less than a month into Biden administration, his NSA says:
[[The mission of the World Health Organization (WHO) has never been more important, and we have deep respect for its experts and the work they are doing every day to fight the COVID-19 pandemic and advance global health and health security. That is why President Biden rejected and reversed the Trump Administration’s decision to disengage from the WHO. But re-engaging the WHO also means holding it to the highest standards. And at this critical moment, protecting the WHO’s credibility is a paramount priority. We have deep concerns about the way in which the early findings of the COVID-19 investigation were communicated and questions about the process used to reach them. It is imperative that this report be independent, with expert findings free from intervention or alteration by the Chinese government. To better understand this pandemic and prepare for the next one, China must make available its data from the earliest days of the outbreak. Going forward, all countries, including China, should participate in a transparent and robust process for preventing and responding to health emergencies — so that the world learns as much as possible as soon as possible.]]
While to this day I regret deeply that Trump stabbed his NSA, Mike Flynn, in the back, to save Mike Pence’s sorry arse. . . the point here is Sullivan’s statement is nefarious subterfuge, [no surprise].
In particular, this: [[China must make available its data from the earliest days of the outbreak.]]
The USA must make available its data from earliest days of this outbreak, and will this ever happen? When will the CDC make available all their data on covid shot deaths, spontaneous abortions, women permanently sterilized, those permanently disabled, injured, maimed, directly and indirectly from mRNA shots. Those who have now gotten relapses of their cancers, their herpes, those that have gotten cancer anew, ditto herpes, etc., those coming down with Prion Disease, those, such as Col. Lang, who suffered Subdural Hematoma, those dying from this, and injured from this, etc. etc.
And also come perfectly clean on the criminal operation to ban IVT and the chloroquines in early 2020? Thus paving way for Moderna and Pfizer to, from our criminal FDA, give these companies their [deadly] Emergency Use Authorizations to further perpetuate this ongoing crime still in progress, viz. the ‘vaccine’ dimension.
The Slave Passports the criminal Biden and his criminal CDC imposed, along with many criminal governors and their criminal state health departments, and many many local/municipal health departments across the land — based on ‘CDC ”’guidance”” — these Slave Passports, euphemistically labeled vaccine mandates. . . when will these end? The above, force-masking our children to attend school . . . . and so on and so forth. And worse, banning them from going to school!
And, when are we going to get actual data clearly showing number of those that died DUE to covid, as opposed to those dying with covid? And, data on those infected with disease in USA prior to 2020?
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1517719113
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The Young opinion piece, nearly 5K words, can be accessed here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230215031328/https://eu.usatoday.com/in-depth/opinion/2021/03/22/why-covid-lab-leak-theory-wuhan-shouldnt-dismissed-column/4765985001/
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Great post, Jim. And thank you for your mention of Col. Lang’s (and his wife’s, too) subdural hematoma that suspiciously occurred in close proximity in time to his having been the “good soldier” and taking the jab.
I do recall seeing your posts over at the old (and unfortunately now lamented…) Sic Semper Tyrannis, a site at which I had become a daily follower. Now, under the baleful influence of the American-Lithuanian TTG (the ordering of those words indicating my sense of the true allegiance of that individual) I have shaken the dust from my sandals, and moved on.
Thank you particularly for having found that scrubbed article at the Wayback Machine. Thus equipped, I will read it again.
I abjured from taking the jab; my suspicions had been aroused, but worse yet, my wife, stepson, and daughter in law had been pushed into taking the jabs and at least one booster through work pressure, and I took it upon myself to remain a “pure blood” in case they needed me remaining healthy to advocate for them if there were side effects. I meticulously support my immune system, and have remained unscathed, despite known exposures.
DOE’s low confidence in the State Department’s Wuhan dossier is hardly a vote of confidence. As my brother worked for State, I received a copy of it in 2020 and noticed that none of the information contained asserts the presence in the lab of the SARS-COVD-19, not to be confused with the bat coronavirus samples and specimens. The intelligence agencies have had access to the genetic sequences from the labs as the two labs collaborated on the NIH contract. That hasn’t yielded a match for the original strain or a close match.