Americans are by-and-large decent, genial folks. But when it comes to history, most have the memory of an Alzheimer’s patient. Sam Cooke was speaking for most Americans when he crooned, “Don’t know much about history …”. So I will make this simple — America’s hatred of Russia has its roots in the U.S. Government’s post-WW II embrace of Nazis. Tim Weiner writes about this in his essential book, Legacy of Ashes. In the immediate aftermath of the fall of Berlin, U.S. Army intelligence recruited and relied on German General Reinhard Gehlen:
“During World War II, General Gehlen had tried to spy on the Soviets from the eastern front as a leader of the Abwehr, Hitler’s military intelligence service. He was an imperious and cagey man who swore he had a network of “good Germans” to spy behind Russian lines for the United States.
“From the beginning,” Gehlen said, “I was motivated by the following convictions: A showdown between East and West is unavoidable. Every German is under the obligation of contributing his share, so that Germany is in a position to fulfill the missions incumbent on her for the common defense of Western Christian Civilization.” The United States needed “the best German men as co-workers…if Western Culture is to be safeguarded.” The intelligence network he offered to the Americans was a group of “outstanding German nationals who are good Germans but also ideologically on the side of the Western democracies.”. . .
“But in July 1949, under relentless pressure from the army, the CIA took over the Gehlen group. Housed in a former Nazi headquarters outside Munich, Gehlen welcomed dozens of prominent war criminals into his circle. As Helms and Sichel feared, the East German and Soviet intelligence services penetrated the Gehlen group at the highest levels. The worst of the moles surfaced long after the Gehlen group had transformed itself into the national intelligence service of West Germany. Gehlen’s longtime chief of counterintelligence had been working for Moscow all along.”
In the wake of this debacle, the CIA failed to recruit and run any significant sources in the Soviet Government. The CIA had very few officers who spoke Russian and swallowed whole hog the belief that the Soviets were intent on conquering the world and that it was up to the United States — relying heavily on the CIA — to stop the Soviets. That became the cornerstone of American foreign policy and explains the CIA’s obsession with regime change. No one in the intelligence hierarchy was encouraged or permitted to raise the alternative view — i.e., the Soviets, fearful of a Western invasion, took firm control of the European nations on its western border and installed governments that would served the Soviet interest. The CIA started its life as a new bureaucracy in Washington firmly committed to destroying the Soviet Union.
One of its first projects was recruiting and funding an insurgency with Ukrainians who had sided with the Nazis. While that effort was crushed by the Soviets, it served to further convince Stalin and others in the Soviet hierarchy that the West was in bed with Nazi survivors and could not be trusted.
The failure of the CIA to predict critical world events was an early distinguishing feature of the CIA from the start. The Soviets detonated their first nuke on August 29, 1949. Three weeks later a U.S. Air Force crew flying out of Alaska detected traces of radiation beyond normal levels. Weiner recounts what happened next:
“On September 20, the CIA confidently declared that the Soviet Union would not produce an atomic weapon for at least another four years.”
The CIA’s leaders knack for getting it wrong continued with the failure to heed warnings that China was going to intervene on behalf of North Korea in 1950. Here is Weiner’s account:
“The president left for Wake Island on October 11, 1950. The CIA assured him that it saw “no convincing indications of an actual Chinese Communist intention to resort to full-scale intervention in Korea…barring a Soviet decision for global war.” The agency reached that judgment despite two alarms from its three-man Tokyo station. First the station chief, George Aurell, reported that a Chinese Nationalist officer in Manchuria was warning that Mao had amassed 300,000 troops near the Korean border. Headquarters paid little heed. Then Bill Duggan, later chief of station in Taiwan, insisted that the Chicoms soon would cross into North Korea. General MacArthur responded by threatening to have Duggan arrested. The warnings never reached Wake Island.
At headquarters, the agency kept advising Truman that China would not enter the war on any significant scale. On October 18, as MacArthur’s troops surged north toward the Yalu River and the Chinese border, the CIA reported that “the Soviet Korean venture has ended in failure.” On October 20, the CIA said that Chinese forces detected at the Yalu were there to protect hydroelectric power plants. On October 28, it told the White H ouse that those Chinese troops were scattered volunteers. On October 30, after American troops had been attacked, taking heavy casualties, the CIA reaffirmed that a major Chinese intervention was unlikely. A few days later, Chinese-speaking CIA officers interrogated several prisoners taken during the encounter and determined that they were Mao’s soldiers. Yet CIA headquarters asserted one last time that China would not invade in force. Two days later 300,000 Chinese troops struck with an attack so brutal that it nearly pushed the Americans into the sea.
Are you beginning to see a pattern here? While it is true there were some solid intelligence officers in the ranks of the CIA, any attempt to raise a warning that flew against conventional wisdom or defied what the leaders wanted to hear was ignored or punished. The failures of the CIA leadership to correctly predict the Soviets producing a nuclear bomb and the Chinese invasion of Korea are not isolated incidents. When it comes to big, critical issues — e.g., the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Tet offensive, the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the fall of the Shah of Iran and the rise of the Ayatollah Khomeni, Saddam’s 1990 invasion of Kuwait, the collapse of the Soviet Union, the 9-11 plot, weapons of “Mass Destruction in Iraq” and Russia’s ability to survive western sanctions and spin up its defense industry to outpace the U.S. and NATO countries combined — the CIA missed them all.
The failure to the CIA and its leaders to provide an accurate, balanced view of Russia is contributing to the U.S. drift towards war with Russia. It is especially shocking that current CIA Direct Bill Burns, who distinguished himself, by sending a cable from U.S. Embassy Moscow under his signature. I do not know if he personally wrote this cable, but he signed off on it, which means it represented his views at the time. Here is the summary (note: under State Department rules, the “executive summary” is put in the first paragraph of any cable going to or from Main State):
Summary. Following a muted first reaction to Ukraine’s intent to seek a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP) at the Bucharest summit (ref A), Foreign Minister Lavrov and other senior officials have reiterated strong opposition, stressing that Russia would view further eastward expansion as a potential military threat. NATO enlargement, particularly to Ukraine, remains “an emotional and neuralgic” issue for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia. In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene. Additionally, the GOR and experts continue to claim that Ukrainian NATO membership would have a major impact on Russia’s defense industry, Russian-Ukrainian family connections, and bilateral relations generally. In Georgia, the GOR fears continued instability and “provocative acts” in the separatist regions. End summary.
That was then. Now he is peddling pure bullshit, divorced from reality. In a recent Foreign Affairs piece — Spycraft and Statecraft: Transforming the CIA for an Age of Competition — he wrote the following:
The post–Cold War era came to a definitive end the moment Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022. I have spent much of the past two decades trying to understand the combustible combination of grievance, ambition, and insecurity that Russian President Vladimir Putin embodies. One thing I have learned is that it is always a mistake to underestimate his fixation on controlling Ukraine and its choices. Without that control, he believes it is impossible for Russia to be a great power or for him to be a great Russian leader. That tragic and brutish fixation has already brought shame to Russia and exposed its weaknesses, from its one-dimensional economy to its inflated military prowess to its corrupt political system. Putin’s invasion has also prompted breathtaking determination and resolve from the Ukrainian people. I have seen their courage firsthand on frequent wartime trips to Ukraine, punctuated by Russian air raids and vivid images of Ukrainian battlefield tenacity and ingenuity.
Putin’s war has already been a failure for Russia on many levels. His original goal of seizing Kyiv and subjugating Ukraine proved foolish and illusory. His military has suffered immense damage. At least 315,000 Russian soldiers have been killed or wounded, two-thirds of Russia’s prewar tank inventory has been destroyed, and Putin’s vaunted decades-long military modernization program has been hollowed out. All this is a direct result of Ukrainian soldiers’ valor and skill, backed up by Western support. Meanwhile, Russia’s economy is suffering long-term setbacks, and the country is sealing its fate as China’s economic vassal. Putin’s overblown ambitions have backfired in another way, too: they have prompted NATO to grow larger and stronger.
Bill Burns is not stupid (even though what he wrote in the preceding two paragraphs suggests otherwise). He is continuing the long tradition of previous CIA Directors, described by Tim Weiner in excruciating detail, of ignoring facts and cementing himself to the political tide that is pushing Washington and the rest of America towards a precipice of disaster. And we are back where we started in 1949 — with the CIA rounding up and backing a bunch of Nazi thugs. Only this time, instead of bearing an SS tattoo of the SS man’s blood type in his left armpit, today’s Ukrainian Nazis sport flamboyant tattoos of various Nazi symbols.
The events in Korea are complex because of the “Who Lost China!” debate. MacArthur and many in the CIA wanted war with Red China. They assumed American air power could smash the Reds while Chang’s army from Formosa invaded and reclaimed China. They ignored evidence of Chinese troops because they wanted war!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzF8G429eN0
The CIA, ‘Cos It’s Assumed’. Assumption is the greatest fallacy when confronting your enemy.
Actually the situation in Berlin 1948 was instrumental in Korean War – US needed somewhere to flex its muscles – the planned war with Stalin set for 1952 was sidelined by Kim Il-Sung.
However US and UK which provided bulk of “UN” troops in Korea needed to re-arm Germany so they could withdraw troops from Germany. That set in motion need to placate France – but after Dien Bien Phu – French Assembly rejected a European Defence Community – so US had to get Germany into NATO but that meant squaring Turkey
Turkey demanded right to export male population as “Gastarbeiter” to Germany – and US agreed “for Germany”
Yep, Germany agreed to take “gasarbeiters” but introduced a law (repelled only in 1976) that only a German father is allowed to grant a child German citizenship but not a mother.
Also recommend “Operation Paperclip” and encourage reading and investigating info in the footnotes.
https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Paperclip-Intelligence-Program-Scientists/dp/031622104X
This is something that most in West do not know, and need to learn. It is more than a prelude to 404. It is the beginning of the whole West/OTAN policy orientation and operational doctrine.
“it served to further convince Stalin and others in the Soviet hierarchy that the West was in bed with Nazi survivors and could not be trusted.” that proved to be true then as it is now:( It is almost impossible for the average American to swallow this bitter pill.
I would suggest that this puts paid to the idea that Putin has been ‘too trusting’ of the west and allowed himself to be tricked. Nobody with the historical knowledge and experience of Putin, Lavrov, and their circle ever ‘trusted’ the west. They had to fool the west because they were weak. Now they’re strong. Whole different ballgame.
Not so
Gorbachev was deluded because he followed his wife Raisa. It was a complaint in The Politburo
Yeltsin was hardly a bright spark having run cement plants but Gorbachev needed muscle to break resistance. Putin did have trust in West because of Kohl and Schroeder – those two more than anyone
Russia saw Germany as a reliable partner with France in tow
It is U.K. that flipped NATO on top of EU post-Brexit and two goals of U.K. policy are: break Franco-German alliance, and set Germany at loggerheads with Russia
Game, set and match to London
I Agree. Surprised nobody mentions Mary Sarotte’s ‘Not one inch’, which tells the story. It seems Gorby and Yeltsin were thoroughly betrayed and ridiculed by the US, which are not that bad at diplomacy, except that US diplomacy is always a preparation o war rather than en effort towards peace. I think Putin is fully aware of this, and immune to US diplomacy.
In Thatcher Archives are notes of conversations with Gorbachev and Sheverdnadze about USSR willing to dismantle Berlin Wall if W Germany would assume the costs……..
GDR was on its knees 1972 and saved by OPEC oil price hike which enabled USSR to sell its cheaper oil to GDR which then sold it at higher prices to the West for hard currency
After Saudi Arabia pumped to hurt Iran during Iran-Iraq War – which finished off Texas oilfields in 1982 – USSR could not hold GDR together.
GDR always feared sellout by Moscow which was why it was hardline Stalinist and kept KGB at arms length. I think the film – Bridge of Spies (2015) is the first where this mistrust between Stasi and KGB was made evident
maybe so; the fact remains that the Anglo-Saxons have never honored a pact, whether oral or written.
Pacta Sunt Servanda
Perfide Albion
“perfidious”
I believe this is a sound and well-informed analysis except for the detail of Gorbachev’s delusion being due to being ‘fooled” by Raisa, based on gossip in the Politburo.
I find he same fault in your otherwise excellent analysis of US doings, specifically that what moves Trump is .. Ivanka’s advice.
I’m all for giving women “credit” but one can take the Cherchez la femme dictum too far. Gorbachev was deluded all by himself. He stayed deluded after she died and never gave any indication that the understood the gravity of his incompetence.
Women who are close to power in the form of pillow talk, like Nancy Reagan or Raisa have “gut feelings” about specific people they like or dislike, not any understanding of geopolitics. Nancy “substantiated” her advice to “Ronnie” with astrologic advice she got from crooks (“Don’t travel on Tuesday because Mars is in conjunction with Jupiter,”) Ivanka was nothing more than a messenger for Jared, which Trump knew but he considered Jared “the most intelligent man he knew”..
Fair points
This ‘Russians are fools’ narrative just doesn’t fly. Some Russians were certainly corrupt, but that’s a different story. Stalin was too soft-hearted, he didn’t completely crush the bourgeois elements post WWII when he had the chance.
Putin didn’t ‘have faith in the west,’ he attempted to neutralize NATO by building an economic relationship with Germany that would keep it from attacking Russia while they recovered from Gorby/Yeltsin. He fed all the greedy wishful thinking of the west, and it worked, for awhile. After 2008, however, the PTB had to have a war, and they had to kick the German dog into line. It was already pretty obvious by then that they couldn’t take on Russia militarily and win, so they went ahead with color revolutions full steam, and used the one in Ukraine to launch an unwinnable war that would defeat Europe. No doubt they would have liked to topple Putin with the sanctions, too, but anybody following the global economic picture knew that wouldn’t happen. And the PTB LIVES on the global economic picture. No surprises there. People think the neocon politicians drive US/west policy, but they are just operatives. The neocons have exactly the lack of knowledge of history, military science, and economics required for them to do their job. The folks that really make policy have a much deeper understanding, and they make plans that benefit themselves. So what if a million Iraqi children die? So what if Libya is turned into an open air slave market? So what if Ukraine becomes a wasteland and the standard of living in Europe drops like a stone? As long as the PTB succeeds in concentrating capital and consolidating their political control of the US base of operations, it’s all good. And that is the real world result of all these policy ‘failures.’
We’re about to see a ‘revolution’ of ‘cooler heads’ and ‘adults’ in the US, democracy will be saved, the worst of the swamp creatures will be banished and capitalism will once again be God’s most glorious creation. Strangely, the same people will own the system as do now. But you’re going to buy it, because the ‘bad pols’ and evil MICC are pushing us to the brink of utter destruction, and the ‘good pols’ and the Rogue Billionaires are going to save us. Good luck with that.
“Stalin was too soft-hearted, he didn’t completely crush the bourgeois elements post WWII when he had the chance.”
Of course he was a gentle soul. You could tell by how his eyes glistened when young pioneers brought him flowers, sang those special songs dedicated to him and all saluted and shouted in unison “Vsegda gatov!”
But you are unfair to claim his soft-heartedness explains why, as you put it, he “didn’t completely crush the bourgeois elements.”
He, in his own way, worked as hard to crush the ‘bourgeois elements’ as Netanyahu is tirelessly doing to eliminate Hamas.
In fact Stalin got untold millions exterminated by executions, gulags and famine and I am sure there were many of them bad elements (i.e., exhibiting bourgeois mentality) hiding among them. He did the best he could in the time he had. I, for one, will never fault him for not exterminating enough kulaks, enough remnants of Lenin’s NEP who had deviously opened mom-and-pop shops, selfish CAP (collective agricultural farms) peasants who hid some grain in their homes instead of delivering it all to the state on the pretext of wanting to feed their families, or intellectuals who veered into “idealism” denying the tenets of dialectical marxism–all bourgeois elements. Among the latter were also some physicists infected by the bourgeois mental disease of quantum physics who denied that ALL is matter and energy a mere feature of it.
So many to crush, so little time…
In fact Stalin got untold millions exterminated by executions, gulags and famine
90+% of what you know of Stalin are lies of his political opponents or US propaganda
These are FACTS
I think you need to differentiate between facts and opinion. I understand that you may think these are facts, just as Many people who quote the media’s assertions that Hamas killed (beheaded even?) 40 Jewish babies, or used rape as a weapon during Oct 7 uprising, but propaganda is not fact. No doubt Stalin was responsible for many deaths in USSR, just as many Western leaders are responsible for many deaths in their own and other countries, but I have not seen any records that indicate Stalin was more of a monster than, for instance, Churchill – who was arguably responsible for millions of “exterminations” due to starvation and persecution.
The West needs a constant supply of monsters to fight in the name of democracy, and freedom, and capitalism. Stalin, Gaddafi, Saddam, Bashar, Putin, Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Un, you name it.
What’s funny, is cognitive dissonance of people that pick & choose from the monster list, and the mental gymnastics they do in order justify their choices. The Government is lying to them about monster-1 but is 100% right about monster-2, because reasons. Anything can make sense to them, as long as the monster is someone else and not themselves.
The judgment of the people you list belongs solely to the people they rule and no one else. I may believe that X is a monster but I will also believe that any foreign leader who agitates to “liberate” other people from X monster is himself a lying monster
One’s beliefs are FACTS, and beliefs of others are propaganda.
The problem with the West is that the populations of Europe and the US are woefully ignorant of history. They really do not know the truth about anything. It is not possible to understand what is currently happening if you do not know the history that has led up to it.
Geopolitics is a multigenerational issue, and if you do not understand the past, you cannot understand the present. It is like taking one sentence of an entire speech, and trying to understand what the speech was about. You will just take everything out of context.
You will just take everything out of context.
Which is the main goal of the whole exercise. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. Narrative can be molded any way suitable. Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
What I have problem with, is supposedly smart people making obvious logical errors in order to fit “truth” and “facts” into their beliefs (whether they are of religious, ideological or some other kind).
I don’t “think” they are facts. They are. Western media is not my source.
Stalin was a monster but I wouldn’t presume to rob the English of their claim in the monster competition: Churchill was a vile monster who got an entire generation of his own people killed (see David Irving).
Honzo, you do realized don’t you, that Communism, Fascism, Nazism and Crony Capitalism are all sides of the same coin (since >2, maybe “dice”). In Crony Capitalism, the elite administer their wealth through tax sheltered trusts, they don’t own anything, and they are happy (per the WEF slogan). In “Communism”, the party elite have access to exclusive resorts and dachas, they control the wealth of the nation, but they don’t own anything and they are happy. The same psychopaths rise to the top either way. The WEF is but one manifestation of their ideological merger and the coalescence of evil.
Idealized Communism can’t exist, because it is a fantasy and against human nature. Actual “Communism” reverts to Facism / Crony Capitalism. Much of “Communism” pretends to be globalist, but it is actually nationalist. Facism pretends to be nationalist and pretends to respect religion and tradition, but it is actually globalist and wants to replace religion with the worship of a one world dictatorship state. Facists/Nazis hate the commies and vice versa, because they are one and the same, while pretending to be different.
The religious pretend to believe in God, but they actually doubt. The atheists, pretend to not believe in God, but deep down they do. They both confront the nature of ultimate reality in the foxhole. Perhaps Putin had an epiphany on the day of Epiphany when he walked into the cold water.
“Gorbachev was deluded because he followed his wife Raisa.”
Madam Gorbacheva was the brains in the family, but the smoozer/former tourist guide for visiting members of the Politburo who was convinced he had consequently been annointed by Mr. Andropov, almost never listened to her, whilst the useful fools in the Politburo tried like “The Americans” to think what could be useful, thereby being increasingly complicit in their own transcendence.
“Yeltsin was hardly a bright spark..”
That was the MI6 narrative, encouraged by the Yeltsin-Zhirinovsky double act and other “assets” used to encourage mirror gazing.
Mr. Yeltsin was a bright spark having been the Governor of one of the most important economic zones in the Soviet Union, but through stress of his subsequent duties became less sparky in matters not including increasing his alcohol intake and pinching female bottoms at parties in the Kremlin.
“It is U.K. that flipped NATO on top of EU post-Brexit and two goals of U.K. policy are.”
“Brexit” was/is in hope of partnering “The United States of America” in the cannibalisation of others through additional “financialisation/(rent seeking), since the phase one alchemy of turning gold into paper and “big banging the city” was losing obfuscation and contingent potency.
“They had to fool the west because they were weak.”
The de jure “infant” Russian Federation was vulnerable internally and externally, as was simultaneously “The United States of America” particularly in regard to the de facto Russian Federation and its birth certificate, facilitating notions of “The United States of America” that both they and the Russian Federation “had to”.
“Game, set and match to London”
I hear that premature ejaculations can be messy.
absolutely yes
Correct 100%, States with continuous history of 1000 years, do NOT make, ‘trusting’ or ‘naive’ mistakes. If it were true, Mother Russia would have been just another ‘trophy’, like Banderastan.
Why is the nazi not handcuffed?
Have we always juxtaposed the reality on the ground to make it look like we were winning? Maybe the habit is impossible to break now that it is policy for decades. Like the habit of the israelicon shooting people for fun for the last 75 years. They lie without taking a breath but they don’t claim any victories lately. Wonder why?
Vintage nazis didn’t wear swastikas on their skin. The Russians know they are dealing with low-grade scum. They are not afraid of him !
Wehrmacht did not wear swastikas – only Party Troops like Waffen-SS which were NOT part of regular army
This suggests that vintage nazis were higer-grade scum, and that Russians were afraid of those.
“Why is the nazi not handcuffed?”
He isn’t a Nazi, he’s a punk LARPing as a Nazi. A real Nazi would, as a gene pool-cleaning act, shoot him.
No true Scotsman …
Victoria “Fuck the EU” Nuland is heading to a comfy sinecure at Columbia University w/Hillary Clinton, who brought open slave markets back to Africa after destroying Libya. This is American Higher Education:
https://jamesburrillangell.substack.com/p/strange-diplomacy-victoria-fck-the?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
She will be on faculty with Jeffrey Sachs
Now who is funding her post ?
Probably the same people funding his post.
“…Hillary Clinton, who brought open slave markets back to Africa after destroying Libya”
That’s a false statement.
Yes, Hillary was instrumental in destroying the peace in Gaddafi’s Libya but it was the Libyan Muslims themselves who, in Libya’s new lawlessness, decided to bring back the old business of buying and selling black Africans (fellow Muslims) as slaves.
If you destroy the stable, representative government structures, which prevented slavery, and replace them with fanatics committed to slavery, you have introduced slavery.
She knew whom she was backing. In Benghazi in 2012, it was the Ghaddafi loyalists who came to the CIA’s aid, when the people they backed came to kill them.
Actually it is a really good lesson in how power works in the US. Better than all the theory they also teach.
Legacy of Ashes – one helluva thick book.
The United States must be disunited and returned to the Americas
While you highlight a ‘rootsy’ tendency for decency in most US Americans, it is a state entity founded on murder , theft and lies.
It is like the movie Psycho, you cannot profess to be a shy bachelor while retaining a dead ancestor in the attic and murdering passing female travellers whilst wearing your ancestor’s clothes.
The bachelor may be ‘bad at history’ but what’s hidden in the attic matters quite a lot.
The USA is a union of 51 sovereign states.
The US is a private Corporations hired to administer federal and foreign affairs of the 51 sovereign States.
However the US administration is constantly trying to hijack the sovereignty of the 51 states.
Just look at the border debacle in Texas. Texas has sovereignty over its own border, but the US Administration is trying to hijack the sovereignty of Texas.
The 51 states must fire the US administration.
Start by voting out of office the treacherous Governors and politicians within the 51 states.
100 percent correct!!
>>>”The USA is a union of 51 sovereign states.”
Well, that’s a howler (and it’s not the only one in your comment.) Fewer than twenty of the fifty senatorial provinces were ever sovereign states, and Lincoln’s war settled the matter of exercising sovereignty, as through separation.
Study Zimbardo’s prison experiment until you have grasped the main idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
Kinda validates Lord Acton’s aphorism that “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” This seems to be a hallmark state actors.
Very few meet Shakespeare’s standard of the strong but peace loving political leader described in his 94th sonnet. In today’s world Vladimir Putin seems to exemplify this much more than any of his contemporaries. The West’s leader are sadly like the summer flower that meets with “base infection” so that even “the basest weed outbraves his dignity: for sweetest things turn sourest by their deeds; lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds.
I dug out my copy of Zimbardo’s Lucifer Effect, and he doesn’t deal with inter-state dynamics.
https://www.lucifereffect.com/
He and Milgram focused on the interpersonal imbalance in power in the relationship between individuals or small groups, and their direct authority figures. Absolutely, Zimbardo’s and Milgram’s works show the “ground floor” of how authoritarian gov’ts/organizations operate, but the higher level activities are more about bestowing power and wealth, or the threat of taking same away, than inflicting direct punitive actions to evince immediate results.
The Stanford Prison and Shock Experiments were about the problem of “going along to get along” and the negative consequences of brainwashed, corrupt and/or psychologically damaged leaders.
The Rothschilds aren’t “pushing the button” on or “jailing” the minions they directly influence. At that level it’s a more subtle game euphemistically called being “statesmen” or “diplomatic”. Or in corporate parlance, an “effective manager”.
However, Rudy Rummel did deal with state dynamics, as well as interpersonal.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/TCH.CHAP20.HTM
Or for those in a hurry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._J._Rummel
As to “states rights”, I leave that to the resident US Constitutional experts.
American punks behave as they do toward the people of other countries partly because of the circumstances in which the former find theirselves. They are like Z’s lab subjects who appear to be “decent, genial folks” but who, under American circumstances, readily become enthusiastic sadists. It’s indeed true that what’s hidden in the attic matters greatly. The connection to A. Dane’s remark is that he thinks the problem would vanish if only the people of the “51” provinces would vote harder for the right people.
The replacement policians will be little better, and possibly worse. The situation will be structurally the same, with the same historical precedents to guide them. They’ll be infused with the same cultish, universalist dogma as their predecessors. Like the SPE, this experiment called the USA must be halted.
So Chakosh is correct that “The United States must be disunited and returned to the Americas”, which I interpreted maximally to mean abolition of the imperial government on the Potomac AND abolition of the governments of the provinces. The whole filthy mess must go, and probably most of the European population, too, with not one Judeophile, grasping corporate capitalist, democrat, or Marxist left behind. Let America the continent be cleansed.
Again, you posited that Zimbardo’s work was focused on the interaction between nation states. A reading of his work shows otherwise, even though the methods used by actors within those states between individuals and groups obviously exists.
As to the rest of your conjectures, I offer no counterpoint as it is more opinion than fact. Any prognostications, unless based on VERY firm information…
“It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” variously attributed to Yogi Berra, Mark Twain et.al.
On the next occasion when you are about to scold that Calvinist pest, Chris McM, bear in mind the near certainty that your ontology and his are the same. He imagines that either his god exists or the crudest sort of ontological materialism is true, with all that’s implied by the latter concerning human egoism. Further, his separation from you amounts to covering up humanist egoism with a thick frosting found palatable to him. This frosting is his favorite superstition.
OOOHHH, 50-cent words… ontology… are we all supposed to be impressed? A good communicator uses the most common words that can convey the message. Posts are ultimately here for the readers, so I chose my vocabulary accordingly. And you’re giving me “style” lessons…
McMorrow? There’s one major difference… he deals in the fantasy of the Abrahamic Tests/religions, I deal in fact and what can and cannot be proven, given the current state of knowledge. I’m OK not knowing the Ultimate Question (it is 42 after all), McMorrow and others obviously aren’t mature enough to accept the obvious, preferring the warm emotional blanket of “Jesus Loves Me” to facing reality as it actually exists. Plus they enjoy the feeling of superiority that religion almost inevitable instills in it’s followers, especially towards us unwashed heathens. I grew up in that “world” and know it well.
It’s simple… prove the Biblical God exists or cede the point that no one on this tiny rock knows for sure. No one, not ever. No matter what some ancient tomes and the legions of followers claim to the contrary. If it’s so obvious, such a proof should be easy… and yet literal libraries are filled with apologia to avoid the core claim.
The body of current science is anything but “crude”, and that line of thinking usually leads to the God Of The Gaps Logical Fallacy, another Evangelical staple.
And since you decided to make it personal, as for “ego”… look in the mirror. I went to the source on Zimbardo and you came back with a pile of intellectual-sounding, but unsupportable “shoulds”. Did it piss you off I actually have a copy of Lucifer Effect on my bookshelf, and had to “dig it out” it has been there so long? It was published in 2008 and I got my copy shortly after it hit the shelves.
Some people merely get old, but some of us actually strive to gain understanding until the lid on the coffin closes.
Nonsense. The States were all sovereign under the Articles of Confederation, and mostly sovereign after that up to the Northern War of Aggression.
The Southern States had the right to withdraw from the Union, according to both the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence which was the Founding Document of the United States, and set forth the principal of self determination of the people, which was our founding principal .
The “Union” used force to subjugate the Southern States, and the US was neither a free country or a Republic after that time.
The Federal Government began usurping power illegally from the time the Constitution was signed right up to today, when we have become basically a Dictatorship impersonating a Republic.
the US has fifty fucking states what is WRONG with you people?????
Isn’t the fifty-first state Israel?
No UKraine is. Israel is a British protectorate.
Oh wait – The USA foots the bills.
Problem solved – send the bills to the EU.
Now State 51 is Taiwan.
Don’t be silly. Taiwanese and Ukrainians don’t get to vote in American elections. Israelis do.
Lord Malloch-Brown KCMG, and Smartmatic Dominion Voting Systems have software for all these voters. Being George Soros’ boss keeps society open.
Israeli’s do not vote in American elections they choose, and pay for, the elected officials. You can vote for AIPAC candidate A, or AIPAC candidate B.
Now stop complaining and go back to work so your tax money can go to Israel…..
“By voting out”
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Good one!
Which part of “uniparty” do you not understand?
Which zionist owned American politicians do you think are most vulnerable to being “voted out”?
Do you think mail in ballots, no ID required or electronic voting systems connected to the internet, that will be most decisive in “voting them out”?
If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.
As George Galloway eloquently puts it, 2 cheeks of the same ass.
VETO…vote everyone totally out!!!
true, well done!!! the brzezsinski-wolwovitz doctrine applied to the U$A
for a new era of peace
I tried to avoid horror movies, but I hear your complaint. I stuttered at the “most Americans” script, too. But fellow person, why do you not watch what you say when you feel flagged with despair? You say, “The United States must be disunited.” for
example. I don’t really see where you have to put that off to some future.
The passive voice, however, is perfect. It hides the fact that Someone’s on it.
I did not mean to help anyone today. You tricked me. Good one.
‘… when first we practiced to deceive.’
Was MSM telling USA it ‘won the war.’
But we didn’t.
USSR won the war.
Since then every lie meant to cover up the first lie (MSM invented then by radio&television).
And lie about Russia.
CIA got high on its on supply.
British Empire was fortunately neutral 1939-45 and my cousins were not KIA
Shouldn’t that be “the” British Empire? 😉
Of course it should
Depends what you mean by “win”. If you mean who did most of the work in order to win, that was the USSR. If you mean who got the most benefit, that would be the US.
it’s like this, for the USSR it was a struggle for the survival of its peoples for the U$A a matter of business, successful, to the point of dominating the entire West and beyond. pay attention now…
Hollywood won the war. Every war.
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One more glaring failure of the CIA was the Indian nuclear explosions in 1998. CIA director heard the news of Indian nuclear tests in 1998 from CNN after it was publicly announced by the Government of India. Incompetence, however, is not the sole preserve of CIA. The Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) organization carried a notice about an earthquake on the India-Pakistan border for more than 24 hours after the event on its web site. They were fined 20 million dollars
Is it really that hard to say it’s the Capitalism stupid?
Various and sundry ideological tropes are deployed for this specific reason: markets. Capital accumulation, at any cost!
Russia as eternal bogeyman, but one. Palestinians as eternal terrorists, another; Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen.
Hillary laffs about our terrorists shoving a burning sword up Gadaffi’s ass, torturing him to death. His sin? Wanting to move away from US $. Saddam Hussein, hung, by US Kangaroo Court. His sin? the same. How many times have the freaks said they want to destroy Russia and China? This is the fate that would await Putin and Xi. So either we back off, or we end up beaten, whacked, and attacked, . . . .what is playing out now likely to continue years and decades. . . .
Propping up and perpetuating Western Capitalism is the elephant in the room and always has been.
These unctuous, racist tropes, serve a purpose; they are not ends in themselves. Destroy a man’s reputation, dehumanize him, then kill him. . . because Capitalism is our God.
We, as Americans, have trouble seeing this since Capitalism is our State Religion, and we, as a society benefit greatly [at least our lords and masters do so] from our government’s theft, mayhem, terror and permanent war. To argue it is hatred for hatred’s sake is how the CIA argues; they omit a key fact, and from there spin any tale they wish. This is the structure of propaganda.
Why wasn’t Sir Winston Churchill shot on site when his sorry ass arrived here 1946 to declare an Iron Curtain?
We have zero say, no vote at all on what sort of economic system is in place, None. Until this changes, Disaster Capitalism it is, till death do us part.
Disaster Capitalism breeds Fascism, breeds genocides, breeds Zionism. The brain-washing is how these horrible things continue. No one in their right mind would ever say this is OK. Yet we have entire political class in Washington, London, Ottawa, Paris, Berlin, Tel Aviv, Madrid, Lisbon, Brussels, Warsaw. . . .and major press corps that eats this shit up and feeds it to us daily, hourly on a platter. Nonstop. And if Chuck Schumer is really that mad at Bibi, then why in the hell did he go along with it five solid months? Now that it is out of control? Does he think we’re all as stupid as him?
Perhaps if these maniacs calling themselves western statesmen hadn’t murdered and maimed and sterilized millions with their covid death shots so recently, the level of questioning of these criminals might have allowed them to get away with it just a little bit longer. However, we’re past the point of no return, and are on proverbial sleigh ride, now. . . .And all these Adolph Hitlers in charge in western capitols cannot stop it. . . . this is why the panic. These are very dangerous, scary times. It is chaos. Chaos is very ugly, very deadly. . . .Just about everyone I talk with, now, wants to take down these craven, insane, maniacs running our government! Heaven help us.
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Capitalism is the 11th commandment of God. Others claim it is a natural phenomenon. Both are stupid. Capitalism is man-made and can therefore be replaced by something else. Capitalism, or rather its core principle of maximum profit and greed, is the source of its abysmal amorality and barbaric character. People have been indoctrinated for many generations that the Darwinism of capitalism is good and right and that there is no alternative. But I vehemently deny that. As long as there are people who are poor, miserable, homeless etc. for various reasons, the exorbitant wealth of a few people is obscene and unjustified. Nobody … earns …. by the sweat of his brow, tens of millions or billions of dollars. Nobody. The human species has not evolved in terms of civilization in thousands of years. Only its technologies.
“Capitalism, or rather its core principle of maximum profit and greed, is the source of its abysmal amorality and barbaric character.” You need to study capitalism a bit more, deeper and try to discard the Jew-injected harmful, criminal elements of it!
“Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all.”
–J M Keynes
It’s a religion without a promise of afterlife as a reward for suffering.
“Capitalism, or rather its core principle of maximum profit and greed, is the source of its abysmal amorality and barbaric character.”
Sounds like slavery with extra steps.
If you think we have Capitalism, you are naïve. Our system is about as far from Capitalism as it can be. Our system is Corptocracy based on socialism. Corporations are a socialist construct in which the government grants special privilege to artificial “persons” created by the State. Those “persons” then legally bribe the politicians to keep and expand their special privilege over the Citizens…. It is the modern form of Feudalism.
I think that all words ending with -ism have no meaning whatsoever. People arguing about -isms sound naive to me, and should switch their mental might to more constuctive matters, like the number of angels that can fit on the head of a pin.
“Our system” is not our, because I’m not one of you (by you, I mean USA people). You can call your stuff whatever you want, but don’t expect me to do it. You can rename war to peace, tits to testacles, and football to soccer, as long as you don’t expect anyone else to follow your lead.
In my language, your system is slavery with extra steps. In your language, it is not-real-capitalism-pinky-swear.
All those attacks on capitalism is unwarranted and ridiculous! The US and the West has something else, which is NOT capitalism. Western regimes under Jewish rule are criminal! Don’t blame capitalism for those Jewish crimes! Soviet socialism/communism, none-capitalism has created an economic waste land, train wreck. The by and large same but capitalist country Russia has produced miracles, where the powers of capitalism is being harnessed for the common good, not for the 1 %! China is another example! Communist China was a starving piss-poor society. Now they have the largest economy and their cities look like cities in a sci fi movie! (They are communist in name only!)
The capitalist economies of Russia and China are successful examples of what is termed today as “managed economies” where the state owns public services and industries critical to the state and the rest of the country flourishes under relatively free markets. In the West we have predatory capitalism relying on the Darwinian concept of the law of the jungle resulting in the massive accumulation of the nation’s wealth into the hands of the few.
The West doesn’t even have a predatory capitalism. It is a financialized Ponzi scheme, run by criminals. Those, who don’t know what capitalism is using present day Western abomination as a Pinata for attacking, beating up what they think is capitalism!
In 2008 and TARP you saw the reality.
Hank Paulson of Goldman rigged the system for Goldman using public money to concentrate more power in financial sector and destroy Bear Stearns for defying Goldman over LTCM in 1998
GECC and GMAC and Westinghouse Credit and the whole show is simply Finance Capital needing some physical asset to securitise
you forget the crony part. Also you forget socialism for the wealthy. And the gangsta part (see Guatemala, for example). And the monopoly part. And the rent seeking part. Adam SMith would be horified.
…and which was Stalin’s economic model, either by choice or because he just did not have tools (computers, bank cards everywhere) to bring more control.
Khruschev the fanatic tried to eliminate every non-state actor, however small. And the economic growth started slowing down. Especially consumer products.
West hates Stalin and loves Khruschev. Coincidence?
Your take on both Stalin and Khruschev is beyond stupid!
Nothing that concerns the fate of billions of people is ridiculous. For many thousands of years, peoples have tried to free themselves from injustice, oppression and exploitation. What is always referred to as socialism and communism were the consequences of these liberation struggles. Yes, it is true that they were not successful in the interests of the people. But do we now lack the imagination and the courage to learn and do better? Auschwitz, two world wars, the dropping of atomic bombs, countless millions of deaths from wars, terror, hunger and poverty should be accepted as good and normal?
Auschwitz was just a concentration camp on Polish territory, liberated by the Red Army, like others.
Don’t try to diminish his guilt; it is part of his identity of a member of a nation forever condemned by collective guilt.
I and all subsequent generations born after 1945 are not to blame in the slightest. It is the responsibility of all of us to learn from history.
So, you blame capitalism for crimes committed from the dawn of history?
Socialism/communism is secular Judaism and has caused untold misery, poverty…Whenever capitalism replaced secular Judaism, aka socialism/communism, prosperity kicked in in differing levels. The Jews have hijacked all capitalist countries and turned them into criminal entities while milking them and using them for their own world conquest, which required massive crimes against humanity.
Now you blame capitalism for the crimes of Jew-infested societies, which claim to be capitalist but they are NOT!!
I blame airhead fanatics like you for crimes committed from the dawn of history. The dumber you are, the more certain are you in your “cause”.
No it wasn’t. CPC reduced poverty, increased literacy and life expectancy, built up industrial foundations and made famines a thing of the past.
That in turn allowed them to open up and move towards a capitalist state managed economy. And btw capitalism is considered a step in the path to building a true socialist society.
China is still communist.
The first half of your post contradicts the second half. …”capitalism is considered a step in the path to building a true socialist society.”, according only to Karl Marx, the Father of Communism!!! You just cannot give up your Marxist dogmas, not even in the face of miraculous success of Chinese capitalism! According to you, after Chinese capitalism created a miracle, they will go back to poverty inducing socialism?
I agree. The west does not practice capitalism. The corporate- government partnerships where only the club benefits is more like a international socialist or neo feudalist economic system.
Agreed!
Capitalism and democracy have always been pushed by the international banking class to achieve their ultimate ends – control and financialisation of the world. Unfettered capitalism to suck the resources out of all regions of the world and concentrating that wealth among the few, and democracies because the people are easily manipulated through believing that their votes are the real power behind their governments.
What a laugh these banking elites must have behind the scenes.
The Greeks came up with terms like oligarchy, kleptocracy, kakistocracy, etc and Rome and subsequent European states carried the tradition onwards, but it had earlier origins as explored in “Debt; the first 5000 years”. And yes, the current crop of banksters are the enemies of humanity. The US took the mantle and modified language to enable the continuation of an imperial theft scheme. However the current crop of enablers and beneficiaries are likely oblivious to this “ancient” history and impervious to understanding consequences.
„The people“ ??????
In English „people“ has no definite article
It is foreign languages that have „people“ as a collective entity
II suppose the term “We the People…” then is poor use of the English language. I shall never be able to read the beautiful and powerful Preamble of the US Constitution (written by whom I now realise must have been obviously poorly educated people) with the same admiration, and every time I stumble across the use of “the people of…”, I shall remember your correction and smile with satisfaction that I am now in the glorious company of the inner circle of those blessed with true knowledge of the language.
Yes it was also false in that a large proportion of the population did NOT support the rebels
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Thank you very much for your understanding!
That very same AI found the US Constitution to be plagiarized, and even Genesis!
It’s photoshopped, cause there are no slaves in the background.
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ai-detectors-think-us-constitution-was-written-ai
What is the city but the people?
https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/the-oxford-shakespeare/coriolanus-16/
Shakespeare’s English has indeed become a foreign language….
have always been pushed
Untrue. One Man One Vote was always anathema to rich men
Vote early and often!
Saddam hussein killed many Senior Shia Clerics in Iraq and quite a few of their women were subject to rape.
Gaddafi had Ayatollah Baqer Al Sadar killed in Lybia and his wife and daughter raped and killed when they were visiting Lybia.
Neither were Saddam nor Gaddafi were innocent or righteous by any stretch of imagination. They got what they deserved.
By that token so did JFK
You miss the point – they were executed for the wrong “crimes” by criminal governments also guilty of atrocities.
Tell me. Who is “innocent or righteous”?
Depends who is doing what YOU want
Who are you to judge what is deserved or not. What country do you represent? Israel?
they still had the most developed contries in their region and life there turned to hell thanks to our Western value “friends”. It turned far worse since they were murdered.
perhaps they got what they deserved. the problem is that the western “leaders” that commit genocide on an industrial scale, that murder, rape, steal and pillage don’t get what they deserve. By your argument, every US president, most senators and congress members, just about anyone in power in Israeal, the EU “leadership” and especially the handlers behind all of these starting with AIPAC would need to get the Saddam and Gaddafi treatment. Many would argue, that this would result in a vastly improved world. As long as that is not the case, your argument is an exceptional figue leaf in support of all these crimes.
He is member of the religion of peace. He knows who deserves beheading.
quindi,sulla base di queste tue “prove” li hai condannati e giustiziati?
They were all infidels.
Churchill‘s Iron Curtain Speech was in Fulton, MI which some say has a connection with Truman who was apparently President
There is a Truman Library in Fulton, MI
Do you think Churchill made his speech after discussion with Truman ?
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/winston-churchills-iron-curtain-speech-march-5-1946
when Winston Churchill arrived in the small Midwestern town of Fulton, Missouri in the spring of 1946. Westminster College seemed an unlikely place for the former British Prime Minister to deliver a speech of global importance. President Harry Truman penned a note at the bottom of the college’s invitation: “This is a wonderful school in my home state. If you come, I will introduce you. Hope you can do it.”
Ryan also argues that the Truman administration’s statements about not knowing the contents of the speech beforehand were strategic subterfuge. It couldn’t have been true. Churchill spent the month before the speech in the U.S. talking to the President and other government officials, and evidence suggests that Truman had read and approved the transcript. Thus, the chance to play both sides may have been tactical: Although Truman wanted to have a “maximum audience” for the speech, he also wanted to remain blameless should the Soviet reaction proved to be too strong. In so doing, the President could argue that Churchill’s speech was neither official British nor American policy. Both Truman and Churchill seemed to be using each other in all sorts of ways to get their points across.
https://daily.jstor.org/churchill-iron-curtain/
A quick note of correction, after you confused me for a second. “MI” is the abbreviation for the US state of Michigan.
After a moment of “huh?” I realized that you must have been referring to Missouri (abbreviated in postal shorthand in the US as “MO”).
Mea culpa
“Nazi” is pure gold in the stock exchange of propaganda. Its value is not diminished by inflation as is that of any other currency in circulation. In fact the more of it appears on the market the more stable it is, and the more supply there is, the more demand it generates.
All other competitors in the basket of propaganda currencies— “communist,” zionist, ”imperialist” — are easily converted into “Nazi.” Some become hybrids like “zionazi.”
Consider the proposition of this article:
Western hatred of Russia is rooted in support for nazis.
Follow the alchemy that leads to the “roots” becoming the pure gold “Nazi”:
— Notable US political leaders and high officials exhibiting Russophobia and supporting the proxy war in Ukraine :
Nuland, Blinken, Schumer, Blumenthal, Pressman. Nazis? No.
They are all Jews so surely they must hate the nazis…
— Ukrainian leadership and “ influencers” responsible for intensive russophobic propaganda camp;aigns in Ukraine and persecution of Russian-speaking Ukrainians, and for creating, organizing and financing the Neanderthal Azov et al.”nazis á la Kiev”: “Yatzy,” Poroshenko, Zelensky, Shmyhal, Kolomoyski. Nazis? No.
They are all Jews so they surely must hate the nazis.
Of course all these nazi-hating Jews in the US are not alone, they are followed by the entire US Congress and all the MSM, who all exhibit rabid russophobia and all express hate for the nazis.
Yet by some alchemy process the very roots of russophobia are transmuted into nazi without any of those listed above becoming “nazis” themselves. Amazing.
Nazism has always been a tool of the Jews to get what they want, supporting beautifully the concept of poor Jews, eternal victims – feel sorry for them, give them money, give them land, give them control of your foreign policy, give them Western “democracies” – all to compensate them for the terrible “suffering” they endured at the hands of Nazis (whom they created and supported) and under the blind eyes of Western governments. Poor Jews.
Very concisely and accurately put..
“Nazism has always been a tool of the Jews to get what they want, supporting beautifully the concept of poor Jews, eternal victims – feel sorry for them, give them money, give them land, give them control of your foreign policy…”
I’m far more pissed off with the sorry saps who pass as our leaders, the ones who “fell” for Jewish manipulation (no doubt money/election support was involved), than I am with the Jews themselves.
Any two-bit punk with an agenda/sob story can try to weasel something out of you or your country. It’s up to you to tell the punk to go get f**ked. That’s where our leadership failed us with the Jews, it’s where our leadership is failing us now with the millions claiming refugee status on our southern border. They should all be told to F off.
All that said, president Richard Nixon was one leader who knew the score – he was, of course, branded as an anti-Semite for it.
“Nixon Answers: Is there pressure from Israel?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEpPk1BBFP8
here were Jewish victims of Nazi-fascism there were Nazi Jews with decision-making, organizational and executive power there were Jews (and there are) who speculated about all this (and continue)…
Very good reply to this nonsensical article! Unfortunately Larry has a totally wierd, dysfunctional take on Nazis, and the never happened Holocaust…..He is brainwashed too much and makes no effort to educate himself out of this, though tons of documents available out there to cure him!
This is not true, the Holocaust happened in some form, most likely not exactly as it is taught today, but I personally know a man whom I respect, who lived as a child in the Jewish ghetto in Budapest, back then, and he told me what he has experienced there. Apart from that, I totally agree with Ariadna and Victor.
“the Holocaust happened in some form, most likely not exactly as it is taught today”
[emphasis adde]
So… you are a “Denier” and don’t even realize it!
Shall we call it.. Holocaust Lite? Or something else entirely?
Well, ditching the capital “H” for regular one would be a good start, not to mention counting dead non-Jewish untermenschen as victims too. I guess no one does it, because the sideffects of that would defeat the purpose of the whole narrative (and counternarrative), just like with Holodomor. It would make those evil Russians look like victims, and we can’t have that in the Brave New Western World. Round peg is all you get, and it has to go into that square hole.
The version of the Holocaust our Jewish overlords are pushing IS: INDUSTRIAL SCALE GAS AND BURNING JEWS by the millions!!! It never happened! Even the official revised Auschwitz museum plaque does not support that, let alone the International Red Cross’ documented official Auschwitz death toll of 270,000, NOT millions!!!! Your man living in a Budapest ghetto is zero proof. Yes, concentration/Intern camps did exist from the 1898 British-Boer War, to interned Japanese in the US during WW2 and in WW2 Germany, but none of them were Jew propagandized Holocaust grade. The closest to that was the British mass killing the Boers in South Africa!
what precisly is “nonsensical”
it is a fact that the West has embraced Nazis, starting with preventing their eradication, culminating with the Hunka accolades in Canada and allowing Nazis to dominate the Ukraine.
and different to many misuses of the word, every time “Nazi” was used in this article, it referred to one
“fact that the West has embraced Nazis, starting with preventing their eradication” That’s why Nazi Germany was destroyed, civilians murdered by terror bombing civilian targets during the war and killing up to 15 million Germans AFTER the war between 1945-49? Eisenhower alone murdered, starved to death 1.8 million German POWs at his Rhineland death camps! Jewish American Kaufman advocated genociding the entire German population!
There are books by historians which would sober you up from Jewish propaganda lies, like; “A terrible Revenge” by Alfred Maurice de Zayas; “Other Losses” by James Bacque; “HELLSTORM” by Thomas Goodrich and many others. I bought them from Amazon!! Read them!
Yawn.
Very thoughtful post!
What’s so sad is that we keep doubling down on CIA failures. I am old enough to remember the Korean war. I had a cousin in the Marine Corp in Korea when all this occurred. Many years ago he told me that he operated a machine gun against the Chinese hordes. Thousands of crazed Chinese charged their positions and were mowed down by the hundreds with machine guns. Incredibly, they just kept coming using their dead comrades for cover. This was the Chinese after crossing the Yalu river into South Korea. 55,000 Americans died in Korea in three years. Compare that to 58,000 in Vietnam in seven years.
My very good friend’s son was a captain in the Marine corp in Afghanistan. He was in charge of training ‘loyal’ Afghans. He, and a sergeant, went to a dinner being held in the honor of those recently graduated. Both he and the sergeant with him were murdered by the soldiers they had just trained! What a fucking fiasco!!! My friend has never gotten over the loss of his son….
Americans have such short memories! We keep doing the same stupid shit over an over again. It’s our own fault….
Korea – the forgotten war – the USA’s first post-WWII failure.
MASH made it known
MASH: Opening Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v605dDOO-Dw
Back in the 70’s, when MASH came on, my mom used to comment how my dad liked watching the hips of the running nurses in MASH’s opening credits.
P.S. My mom’s older brother was a US Marine who fought in the Korean War, he worked with the artillery.
Michael Caine has different recollections of Korea
Nonsense, I don’t know where you get off saying that about Caine. I read his story describing the insane fighting in the Korean war and his very narrow escape from death.
Curt, spread this story Far & Wide. It sickens me to know how little our government cares for its people, especially its Military. We are merely slaves for them. Everyone should keep that in mind.
Human waves. It’s always human waves. Soviet hordes, Chinese hordes, Russian hordes.
Thousands of crazed Soviet/Chinese/Russians charged their positions and were mowed down by the hundreds with machine guns. Incredibly, they just kept coming using their dead comrades for cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8fWp-i-BGA
The truth is they were running much too fast to do any fighting. The Chinese complained that the US Army ran so fast they could not catch them, and chased them all the way across N Korea.
They ran away because they didn’t have barrier troops behind them, shooting at them with Maxim machine guns in order to prevent retreat (as per video). 🙂
We had no business in either place. We screwed the Koreans at the end of WW2 after they fought with us to defeat the Japanese. We screwed the Vietnamese the same way.
What we did in Afghanistan was just as much a crime as what we did in Iraq. People should educate themselves before volunteering to be part of genocidal criminal wars….
There has not been a war in the defense of our homeland since 1812.
The CIA is a Subversion, not Intelligence agency. if there is intelligence there, it pales in comparison with subversion.
It’s a criminal organisation; Air America? How about taking over the French heroin trade out of Indochina; a great deep state money making scheme. But there was more with the most recent in Afghanistan; the Taliban had stamped it out, the US invades and then it all takes off again. And don’t forget how they used the mafia. And for fun they did run subversion. “Intelligence” was a sideline to justify its existence
This from a Madison prof…further documentation of that criminal
organization aka as the US permanent deep state, er, I mean the USG. Bigly sad. (link)
https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Heroin-Southeast-Asia/dp/0060129018
Another key point is that many in the US were sympathetic to Hitler before and ruing WWII< Henry Ford and Joe Kennedy being the most outspoken.
As to the CIA, they seem to be able to remain incompetent with impunity. That begs the question why? It’s not that all these failures aren’t or can’t be known, as they are obvious. So why is nothing done to fix the problem? Does the CIA, like the FBI, have the goods on enough politicians to enable protection no matter what the failure?
It’s not the failings that are the concern, but rather the lack of any accountability.
The CIA is doing the work of the Powers That Be, as are the politicians. They don’t need dirt, they’re team-mates.
Exactly! When the shit hits the fan, Burns et Al should be the first wave to hit the beach. Give ‘em a taste of reality
And Dulles brothers at Sullivan & Cromwell whose German clients like Fritz Thyssen were catered to ….. or Bush at Brown Brothers Harriman trading with German business
Or Standard Oil supplying fuel additives for Luftwaffe throughout war
Or Russia still keeping the EU alive with LNG and Petrol via India, while being sanctioned them, all at the same time!
The US financed Hitler and the reconstruction of the German military as part of a plan to have Germany go to war with Russia. The plan was for them to destroy each other.
The US and UK have been in a war against Germany and Russia for over 100 years.
The worst thing for the USA is all the out of control three letter alphabet soup agencies including the CIA. Everywhere they go they fund opposition political parties, separatists and terrorism. They are in control of the SHIT stream media to control the “sheeples” and in every corner of the globe sponsoring the worst of the worst terrorists and then lie about it. They blow up places throughout the world to justify the out of control budget and the military industrial complex. Until these agencies are reigned in the homeland will forever be threatened.
JFK tried to reign them in. Look what happened to him during a CIA-Mossad cooperation in Dallas!
Think CIA can take sole credit
Not really, due to the many Jewish characters involved.
Still do not rate Mossad that highly in 1963
Most Jewish characters were Mob
Drug mob yes. The seven best shooters were not mob and were sent to kill DeGaule as well.
Jeffrey Sachs is working “courageously” to convince those who don’t agree with you of that.
The idea is that debunking makes revisions necessary. And you can’t just catch up, you must jump ahead.
You can’t just drop the Warren Report “lone gunman” tale without replacing it with something… safe.
So, you don’t like the lone gunman, I’ll give you the “CIA sole credit” instead.
We should wait for the JFK files that Trump discussed with The Judge.
https://twitter.com/upholdreality/status/1768646268467708219
The key is Permindex assassination bureau detailed in Dope, Inc. Plenty of Zionists there and long-time British intelligence operative and assassination coordinator, Canada-based Maj. Louis Bloomfield.
The CIA does not do its own crimes, it organizes others to do criminal deeds. Usually dupes who do not even understand what is going on.
Johnson proves that the CIA has demonstrated track record and is very consistent in their analysis over decades🫡
Look, this is tiresome, but as one US president said: ‘Not much happens in this world which isn’t planned’.
Failure is planned, because it enables actions. You could say, we have our solution, so we create a problem, we get a reaction (predicted), & and then we action our solution, the one we had planned before anything had happened.
Take 9/11, yes, it’s a swamp, but those put options were taken out in Western banking centers, mainly in Europe, which employed ex CIAda officers. Bin Laden was the fall guy, but there was no real investigation. Both MI6 and the CIA are hard wired into the markets, so they knew in advance about 9/11, because of trading spikes, and the fact they were behind 9/11.
Take the designed 2007/8 financial collapse. Not only did regulators know it was coming, they did nothing. Banks were sacked by hacked (MI6) trading systems. Post fake falling stock prices, and traders followed the bait. Banks were broken by design. In one case, a bank went bust in less than 3 hours.
As with 9/11, MI6 and the CIA did nothing to protect the world from 2008, because it was planned.
Everything that followed was part of the plan. Currency wars, illegal sanctions, and trade wars. Brexit is UK trade war against the EU.
The point is, they were failures which falicitated actions. The NATO failure in UKraine, is designed to allow more actions, be that NATO boots in UKraine, or nukes.
The same failures can be seen in Gaza. Let’s just say that every negative force or actions was countered, neutralised, then they would be hitting the buffers, no scope for actions.
Larry alluded to it, but won’t say it. The West, and NATO is a Nazi operation. This started by the British around the start of the 20th century, but went full monty after WW2 with MI6 setting up the CIA. See things as a triad. MI6, CIA, & Mossad. So MI6 is the brain, the controller, the CIA is the muscle, and Mossad is the rabid dog.
Well said sir!
I commend you for your faith in the uber-competence of our leaders. Me, I put it down to incompetence, and making shit up after the fact, but hey, I still like Hollywood.
Producing atomic bombs is like producing wheels. Once somebody shows it can be done, everyone with the right tools can figure it out. Russians had the tools- why would it take them longer than the Manhattan project, when they knew up front that the concept was sound? Any physics graduate student can build a fission device if they have access to the materials and equipment. They might go down some false trails and have to backtrack and continue on another path, but if you have ten teams working in parallel, you can probably ‘get it right the first time’ with one of them.
You are overconfident
It is an engineering feat that Heisenberg could not manage and even US needed an international effort with Szilac and Fermi and Fuchs and Nunn May
US acquired the team from U.K.
Paul,you are saying from the UK.I don’t see a single English name in that list.
Oppenheimer was suspected of being a British asset.
He was a Communist
So was triple agent Philby.
Alan Nunn May born in Birmingham
Not an English name ?????????
do you know the story of U-Bot 234? (coincidentally 234 is also the isotope number of uranium…)
Agreed.
“What one fool can do, another can.” Silvanus P. Thompson
I can remember being told by a friend taking Engineering at the local university, which has a 5MW research reactor, that the literature on atomic weapon basic technology had recently been removed from general access in the university library. That was in the early 1980s.
While the devil is always in the details, the basic concepts would have been known by Soviets. Ya, the US got most of the top scientists, but the Russians got a lot of 3rd Reich documentation.
I think the shattered Soviet economy and wider society had more to do with any delay, but the existential urgency was made clear after Hiroshima and the resumption of US open political hate-speech against its former ally.
After US got their bomb they kicked their allies away. The promise of sharing the results was broken (oh, those super-reliably treaties with Americans).
Read about CANDU reactors. Read about Sellafield Fire in UK.
The world had a lot of betrayed and angry scientists and politicians who had their fragments of the Manhatten Project vividly remembered yet.
German scientists helped too. For example Uranium enrichment via gas centrifuges. The ultra-speed bearing required for it were developed using German POWs. Some of them made carrier to high ranks on enrichment project. When they got home they remembered most of the scheme and wanted to re-implement them, for the West.
CIA then plundered them and gave away the scheme to Pakistan. Which started enriching for North Korea and Iran and anyone willing to pay for it. Those designated American enemies got their nukes (Korea for sure, Iran maybe) from CIA proxy.
That said, USA themselves tried to build the uranium centrifuges thrice, all those attempts failed. While Pakistan made it right the first time they got the stolen blueprints. So much for declared USA engineering supremacy.
World is a funny place…
I worked in and around the Canadian Nuclear industry on CANDU technology, so what’s your point?
The Zippe Centrifuge?
https://pubs.aip.org/physicstoday/article/61/9/40/413428/The-gas-centrifuge-and-nuclear-weapons
The Iranian nuclear section of the article conveniently avoids mentioning the US “Atoms for Peace” program which was in part intended to put nuclear tech in the hands of the murderous Shah of Iran, after the CIA overthrew democratically-elected Mossadegh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atoms_for_Peace
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/sixty-years-of-atoms-for-peace-and-irans-nuclear-program/
Have a look at Hanford. The entire US economy was crash mobilized – no other could manage it. Nazi economics based on slave labor could not possibly do it. The USSR needed the engineering details, and mobilized. It was FDR’s New Deal economics in action.
Now we need a Manhattan Fusion program to get the US back on track – extreme high tech, not EV’s. and the US’ been there, done that!
What was CIA forecast on U.K. or France ?
Klaus Fuchs was key to USSR efforts
But it was their job to know about Rosenbergs, was it not?
It also was their jobs to have spies in USSR who would report the real after-the-fact progress made, regardless of how and why it was gained, was it not?
It was their job to know about Jonathan Pollard too.. how many times do you suspect nothing but incompetence before you look for another explanation
The conclusion that the US regime ever embraced Nazi Germany is preposterous. Jew led US govt always hated Nazi Germany and fully supports German-hating Pissrahell now! Roosevelt with Dutch Jewish roots worked hard to get America into war against Germany. Eisenhower’s Rhineland death camps starved to death 1.8 million SURRENDERED German POWs. America has unleashed Jews to butcher Germany at the end of the war! Up to 15 million Germans were killed between 1945 and 1949, After the war ended! Stealing talented German scientists and enlisting German intelligence assets against the USSR after the war does NOT qualify for American love for Nazis.
Todays’ Ukrainian Nazis are NOT really Nazis! Many of them are actually Jews!!
Both FDR and Eisennhower were schooled for a time in Germany and loathed the memory
However US business did fund and support Nazi economy with technology transfers and cross-licensing of patents
That’s why the large German air ship blown up for using Hydrogen due to US embargo on supplying Helium to Germany?
Dirigible technology for war was barely useful in WW1, let alone WW2. The embargo on helium was probably more to do with the US wanting to monopolize production/markets. After the Hindenburg crash, airships were obviously not trusted. Passenger aircraft pre-WW2 were primitive by any standard, and only flying boats managed transatlantic/pacific flights until the late 1930s.
The Hindenburg crash has been exhaustively investigated, and it is highly likely to be a tech and operational failure, not sabotage or a deliberate attack. If it had been helium-filled, it would not have burned, but the lift capacity would have been at least 10% less. Plus leakage issues would have persisted or been worse. Helium is hard to seal… that’s why helium party balloons tend to be “foil” these days.
https://www.livescience.com/hindenburg-disaster-newfound-footage.htm
https://gasketech.com.au/whats-the-best-gasket-material-for-helium-containment/
The NAZI’s were Green – here is Martin Heidegger’s design for the biggest turbine evah! Heidegger also attacked the Nitrogen Fertilizer chemical Process.
“However US business did fund and support Nazi economy with technology transfers and cross-licensing of patents”
So what?
Nobody can predict the future, and business is business.
Whatever US business did with sharing technology and patent information with 1930’s Nazi Germany is NOTHING compared to the stripping and shipping of almost all of our manufacturing capability to China since the 1980’s.
The stripping and shipping of almost all of our manufacturing capability to China since the 1980’s was the handy work of Wall Street Jews! Interestingly NOBODY brings up the issue how and why the American economic suicide happened, let alone who is responsible for it! Our Jew regime/media conveniently blames China for the consequences! Bad, bad China accepted our voluntarily offered factories and technologies (in order for the Jews to make a few dollars more on foreign cheap labor)! American workers? Faq them!
Finally, something that Marvin The Martian said that I agree with. Well done.
“Both FDR and Eisennhower were schooled for a time in Germany and loathed the memory”
Sure, that explains it, a bad school experience leaves deep marks in he psyche.
I hated my high school and it was only for lack of opportunity that I did not have one million of the teachers, their extended families, the Ministry of Education with their extended families and the whole regional district starved to death (I would have only made an exception for two Latin teachers).
Read what they said about the experience
Germany is unlike a U.S. High School – especially in 1900
Enough to make Ike want to kill as many people belonging to the nation that had such schools as he could, apparently….
In 1900 Adolf was very very young and far far away from power!
Hey IQ deficient ones! Wasn’t Hitler very young and far away from power in 1900? Did some CNN enthusiasts defected here and continue to practice idiocy on the other side?
the only thing preposterous is your comment
the ratline protecting Nazis from their deserved fate through the Vatican is well documented and described by the perpetrators. Read Hudal’s “roemische Tagebuecher”. “German-hating”???? with Germany defending Israel’s genocide court?
“Jeff” aka Rip van Winkle?
You are a lonely salmon swimming upstream against strong currents. Keep it up and you’ll be called a Nazi lover. Who do you think you are? Look, they are about to erase Charles Lindbergh’a memory in St Louis by changing the name of the street named after him and educating the public about the harm his anti-semitism did. As the Jewish man who had been the head of St Louis Historical Society said, we take down statues of Columbus, the colonialist, but we neglect someone guilty of a far worse crime: anti-semitism?!
He is not lonley.
Let me preface:
I have no issue with Jews practicing their religion as long as it doesn’t negatively impact the societies they live in and interact with. But Zionists are a different matter entirely.
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Pretty obscure quote from the “the Jewish man who had been the head of St Louis Historical Society”. I looked, folks, I really looked…
And conveniently ignoring that the mid-late 1800s Zionist Movement conveniently redefined “antiSEMITism” to ONLY apply to Jews, anywhere, of any ethnic background or native language.
Rather than the actual definition, where a Semite is a native speaker of a Semitic language, generally originating in the Middle East plus a few other related locales. The overwhelming majority of Semitic language speakers are Arabic, by orders of magnitude, both then and now.
Jews are about 2% of the US population and about 0.02 of world population. Why the outsize presence and influence in all our lives?
And what family supported the mid-late 1800s Zionist Movement with funds and political/media influence? The Rothschilds. It’s documented history, not opinion.
But pay no attention to the Rothschilds, just a bunch of kindly old obscenely wealthy and extremely well-connected Zionist Jewish men (and women now) with their fingers in little issues from the Napoleonic Wars, to the Balfour Declaration green-lighting the Zionist Invasion of Palestine which they funded and encouraged, to one now being head of the Council for Inclusive Capitalism and also best buds with Hillary Clinton.
>>>”Let me preface:
I have no issue with Jews practicing their religion as long as it doesn’t negatively impact the societies they live in and interact with. But Zionists are a different matter entirely.”
And just like that you display your ignorans and foolishness again in your mealymouthed way.
Pies of free advis: Cansel your memberships in all of your skeptics and secular humanism groups, esp. any with Meetup, Quora, and Reddit.
Ad hominem, the last refuge of the intellectually bereft.
You know nothing about my life beyond what I have chosen to share. I have NEVER made any reference to any of the groups you allege I frequent. I have also never referred to, or identified as following or accepting any of the organized groups or ideologies you posit. All have flaws I cannot accept, the greatest of which is group-think. Attempt to hang all the labels you like, I don’t accept any of them.
Unlike the proselytizers, who wear their group-think associations and inadequate sources as badges of honour, instead of the emotional props they actually are.
I have stated repeatedly I drew my current non-belief from observing and analyzing religion from the inside, added to as as I grew in knowledge and understanding, and matured. Over a half-century… and you?
All the information required to NOT believe is contained in the Abrahamic Texts and their derivatives, as well as other religious tomes. The anti-social (at best) actions of religious groups merely highlight the hypocrisy of the “religion of peace” claims all make. The confabulation and unsupportable claims stretch credibility beyond the breaking point, but somehow, people WANT to believe.
More like people don’t want to be ostracized by the congregation, or society in general, and be patronizingly verbally abused as you and the proselytizers so amply demonstrate.
So add some more ad hominem so readers can see your true Christian ways in action.
“I have no issue with Jews practicing their religion as long as it doesn’t negatively impact the societies they live in and interact with. But Zionists are a different matter entirely.”
That’s what I thought too, then I sobered up. Why don’t you?
You’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is…
Jews are not a special case. I feel the same about all religions and whacko belief systems. Like Flat Earthers.
You have the right to believe what you want, but that right ends where it gets imposed on others.
I know that I’m outnumbered even on this alt site. The Jewish brainwash is very strong in the minds of the masses. They had decades, the entire media, Hollywood, government control, including writing/approving school text books to etch their lies into the heads of the goyim! I know, it’s hard to clear ones mind from the 24/7 cradle to grave lies. Once I too was a brainwashed goy, not anymore. If I could do it, others can too.
I know, the next step will be to force citizens to set up holohoax museums in their private homes.
“Today’s Ukrainian Nazis are NOT really Nazis…” No Nazi was ever a real Nazi, not even Hitler. The Nazi ideology was/is just another mask of antichrist.
No Scotsman is a true Scotsman.
Well, Nazis worshipped their own nation, instead of betraying it like it is done in the West today. They’ve also managed capitalism and harnessed its powers to benefit the entire nation, not just the 1%. They also tried to liberate their country from the Parasite! These are unforgivable crimes in the eyes of the Jews, who now rule the West, hence the venom towards the Germans.
The CIA has also managed to not notice the threat of 350,000 invaders crossing our border every month. That is 4.2 million a year. Yesterday in El Paso, a crowd of criminal immigrants stampeded over a small group of US soldiers trying to protect a border crossing. Knocked them down and trampled on them.
4.2 million a year. And these are not Hispanics. They are Africans and Chinese. It costs money to get from Africa to El Paso. NGO’s and Soro’s are paying these people.
They ask me why I am planning on moving overseas. I would be leaving my country. I got news for you kids. My country LEFT ME.
You know the movie No Country for Old Men? Make that No Country for an Old White Man. That is ‘Murica now.
When I lose my beloved Malinois Stella, my last tie is cut. I am converting all my assets to liquid. I will not buy anywhere. I will rent. Ready to move when insanity strikes.
I’m also thinking about it. I’m just waiting for Russia beating Jewkraine to pulp without WW3 and discouraging US/EU from any unfriendly, unwise move!
Buy physical gold. Do not store your wealth in paper money. Live off your monthly pension/social security and only convert your gold into paper money as needed. And, as a security precaution, in case America falls apart before you leave, buy some lead (bullets) because you may have to shoot yourself out of a deadly situation when, as you say, “insanity strikes.”
You don’t think that THEY will not confiscate your gold? Or arrest anyone that accepts your gold as payment? Remember FDR.
I often wonder who did win WWII.
In the UK we have a Nazi health care service which has turned the population into a rat lab to be experimented on by the pharmaceutical industry and allied businesses to their vast profit, and abused by the political class, happy to keep on sticking needles into us for various unsavoury purposes, all under the virtuous cover (itself actually a lie) of it being FREE.
We even have a version of Horbiger’s World Ice theory (Welteislehre) that the nazis loved, in our ‘Climate Change’ ideology. (Let’s not call it science, or not pre nazi science, anyway.)
U.K. did not
US gained most
Eugenics won.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2090099649?t=1h35m29s
And then last October, all the Ashkenazi Jewish genomes were stolen from 23andMe. The theft was associated with Breachforums, a website that had been taken over by the FBI months earlier in 2023.
How to protect the world from ultra-targeted biological weaponsBy Filippa Lentzos, December 7, 2020
Cabal orchestrated and won WW2. Like it won WW1.
Russia broke out of the cabal stranglehold in 1991, then went through some very hard years to finally emerge almost independent from the Cabal (and Putin is actively working on purging the rest of the cabal holdouts).
US/UK are full cabal. Europe is occupied cabal territory.
Cabal…. another euphemism
Let’s call it for what it really is; International Jewish bankster Cabal!
I think Larry is conflating CIA ‘failure’ with CIA manipulation. The CIA ‘bought’ the narrative that the Soviets were intent on world conquest? No, they invented it. Given that MacArthur and his pet South Korean ‘leaders’ actually started the Korean war, and that MacArthur openly advocated for war with China, why would we think that CIA was giving the civilian authorities who balked at all this their actual understanding of the situation? Not even Harry Nukem Truman wanted war with China, but the CIA and MacArthur made it happen.
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Nah, goes back farther than WW2 and Nazi’s.
As a matter of fact, even b4 WW1.
I even hedge that Nazism was allowed to magnify as a Western tool against Russia.
Not “communism”. Russia was hated long b4 it was communist.
It is simple: Coveting.
The West has been unable to “conquer” the lands. Some Russian leader always rises up and rebuffs the West and drives them back. The West simply cannot give up it’s covetous desire to have Russia lands for themselves .
White Tiger Movie 2012
True.
The identity of the US requires a Manichean Conflict to define itself. It has people like BonBon with his LaRouchean fantasies about The City, The Crown, and The Illuminati – and it has US Imperialism with its Manifest Destiny to be The New Zion and have the Ring to bind them all
USSR was a result of Jews in U.S. like Jakob Schiff blocking Tsarist Bond Issuance and favouring Japan and US money fomenting Revolution in Russia including the Menshevik Trotsky with his NYC dowry on a British warship
US is a cartoon society which needs Foes for Superman and Captain America to defeat and show The Anerican Way
It is integral to the DNA of the U.S. and will end only through massive military disaster and political collapse
I always wondered why the City of London chose this :
And Royal Unicorns
Not the same as an androsphinx at all. It’s an English red dragon rampant.
It must be said that NATO and the EU have become Frankenstein monsters, as George Galloway said recently of Israel. Patched.together disasters with CIA tailors – the same tailors of the Emperor’s New Clothes.
Boris Karloff, brilliantly here, was British.
Putting these two statements closer together:
“The identity of the US requires a Manichean Conflict to define itself.”
and
“USSR was a result of Jews in U.S. like Jakob Schiff….”
we may well conclude that the US needing an enemy to define itself is a hand-me-down, second-hand defining principle.
Jewish identity is only possible by the existence of an eternal enemy, variously called anti-semitic Goyim, Amaleks or by the euphemism “nations.”
Another hand-me-down is “essential nation” or “manifest destiny,” a step below “God’s chosen.”
Let’s see the good parts of this nazi thing.
First, nothing could be more motivating for Russians soldiers than finishing grandpa’s job.
Then it’s a worldwide purge of all the most motivated “extreme right wing” elements, even the Russian ones get out of the woods to fight with the banderists.
Finally it also helped putting some masks down in the West and make more people realizing who where their rulers.
In the end , Putin can cite the Potsdam declaration “denazification , demilitarization…” and it match history with nowadays objectives perfectly.
Potsdam declaration where Truman had already threatened USSR with new wonder weapon
What actually happened there; Truman while at Potsdam conference, got the news about the successful nuclear test in the US. He told to Stalin about that. Stalin, who knew about the Manhattan Project through his Jewish spies replied; ‘Make good use of it against Japan’. There was no open threat. That came later.
Yes. What Russia and the West did in Syria+Iraq with the jihadists it is now being done with far right fanatics in Ukraine. They are being concentrated in one place for efficient elimination, all of this while Russia and the West remain hostile to each other (i.e. they do it in un-coordinated fashion).
The ‘I’ in CIA was always a mystery to me, like the ‘I’ in MI6. These 2 unaccountable nazi organisations have wrecked most of the world due to in part to believing that intelligence has something to do with being intelligent. They supposedly recruit the ‘best minds’ on offer in their respective countries and worryingly, they probably do, which doesn’t say much for the intellectual capacity of both countries.
Russia, like China, has and always did have the advantage of language, singularly the most important aspect of intelligence. The Anglo-Saxons arrogantly still believe that English is the world’s most important language and so very few of the intelligentsia in USUK bother to learn Mandarin, Russian and their many dialects.
As you rightly say about Sam Cooke, they don’t know much about history, biology or basic communication skills and again as you rightly say, the evidence of their ineptitude and the results of their hubris are clearly visible in today’s very uncertain world.
How then do we cut off the head of this snake? Courage is the only way.
In my opinion, the US distrust of Russia has it’s roots in the British Empire and their fanatical desire to protect that Empire. Russia’s eastward expansion (towards India) fueled their British paranoia to pathological levels. And then the Russian Revolution put the icing on the cake. Post WW I, the Dulles brothers, anglophiles, were so tutored by the British Foreign Service and Secret Service, that by post WW II, during the Cold War the CIA and State Department targeted any foreign government that dared to lean left.
One has to understand the Executive Branch in the US can be co-opted, e.g. the British did this the 20th Century and the neocons with Israeli cooperation have done it in the 21st Century. It’s debatable whether most people in the US ‘hate Russia’, but propaganda has shaped public opinion such that a great many go along with the demoniization of Mr. Putin,(while Netanyahu, a real monster, so far, has been given a break). For the last 100 years, Russia has embodied the ‘Red Scare’ – communism being the devil incarnate to the exisiting order of capitalists. The irony is that if the US had sought ‘cooperation” with Putin, most likely any threat from Russia would have been neutralized. Instead, the US (the West) has created their own ‘Frankenstein’ which may now justifiably take (their world order) down.
Yet Britain has been allied in war with Russia against Napoleon and in 1914-1917 and in 1941-1945
And sold Rolls-Royce Nene jet engines to USSR 1946
And Anglo-Russian Treaty 1907
This has been a European project going back to the 16th century. One can single out the British or Americans but both have simply been strong enough to lead the rest of Europe. The Spanish, Dutch and French were never powerful enough to make such a lasting impression.
The French came close which is why, prior to 1815, the British Empire’s chief rival was France. The British spent two centuries fighting the French.
The Prussians unifying Germany in 1871 made Germany the main rival. Which led to two world wars.
Through it all the objective was to maintain Britain as the leading power – and the one to most benefit – as Europe continued to pillage the rest of the world.
The USA replaced the British Empire after WW2. The CCCP was the rival which challenged American hegemony. Thus Russia became America’s greatest enemy This has been the case for more than 75 years.
Make no mistake, it was the US leading the continued European domination of the developing world. All European countries shared in the plunder. Which explains why our standard of living was always much higher than those “less civilized” foreign societies of the south.
This only ends when Europe(which includes the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) is returned to the Dark Age box it emerged from centuries ago. The sooner this happens, the better it will be for everyone else.
“The USA replaced the British Empire after WW2. The CCCP was the rival which challenged American hegemony. Thus Russia became America’s greatest enemy This has been the case for more than 75 years.”
I suggest your lacunae in respect of detente based on convergence theory evangelised by Mr. Stephen F Cohen and Mr. John Mearsheimer during the the 1970’s, and its acceptance on the belief that it was based upon separate spheres of influence by the Brezhnev/Kosygin faction in the Politburo, with half-lives extending into the “Gorbachev Politburo”, facilitates your self-obfuscation that continually “This has been the case for more than 75 years.”.
It’s the same game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Game
Except now it’s called the Great Reset. “you will own nothing…”
It seems certain that JFK war killed by a CIA operation and that some, probably small, part of CIA plays a major role in determining US policies. The head of CIA will presumably conform to those policies.
Excellent article.
Perhaps some of the tremors in Missouri blamed on New Madrid are just President Truman rolling over.
“To err is Truman.” Hawkeye Pierce
To be Hawkeye Pierce is to be a smug Anglo-Saxon American played by a smug Italian American.
Alan Alda? He is the kosher “Italian American” you refer to? His rabbi would be insulted to hear you.
Wrong again… your bigotry is showing, he’s of Italian descent but what exactly does that have to do with his role in M*A*S*H*? Portraying an “All-American” boy from Crabapple Cove Maine. But wait, there’s more…
As for “kosher”… assume things not in evidence much? So now you can hate him too for his non-belief… which to my surprise, he expresses EXACTLY as I do… hold the labels please, I’ll think for myself thanks.
“Alda is open about his lack of belief but prefers to identify simply as a nonbeliever rather than as an atheist or agnostic. He told the Edge Foundation, “I still don’t like the word agnostic. It’s too fancy. I’m simply not a believer. But, as simple as this notion is, it confuses some people. Someone wrote a Wikipedia entry about me, identifying me as an atheist because I’d said in a book I wrote that I wasn’t a believer.”
“For a while in my teens, I was sure I had it. It was about getting to heaven. If heaven existed and lasted forever, then a mere lifetime spent scrupulously following orders was a small investment for an infinite payoff. One day, though, I realized I was no longer a believer, and realizing that, I couldn’t go back.”
—Alda, “Things I Overheard While Talking to Myself” (2007) ”
https://ffrf.org/ftod-cr/item/14916-alan-alda
But keep churning out those zero-content, sarcastic posts…
Be careful with any negative reference to Jews on this site! There are seemingly more Jew-worshippers here than in the treasonous Evangelical Christian Zionist churches combined. Unfortunately this is not an encouraging sign for America’s future, where even the dissenters are working for their greatest enemies, they ever had.
Have to make everything ad hominem don’t you? So you’re personally acquainted with Alda to be able to make such a judgment?
The CHARACTER Pierce was commenting on the real actions of an actual President.
Was in “Give ‘Em Hell, Hawkeye” . Written by Dennis Koenig and directed by Charles S. Dubin.
So you can’t put that at Alda’s feet. He was just the actor.
Alda said: “I have a long line of Jewish ancestry. My Italian grandfather told me that the family left Spain just around 1492.” That, of course, was when the Jews were expelled from Spain. “And there’s the name D’Abruzzo,” which means from Abruzzo, a region in central Italy. “It’s two to one that you’re Jewish if you have a place name, which my name is. The family story is that we went to Naples, which was still controlled by Spain, but Naples had not yet expelled the Jews. A few years later, the Jews were expelled from Naples, and they went north to Abruzzo. Later, they went to a small town outside Naples, and that’s when they would have been called d’Abruzzo.”
His wife, Arlene, is Jewish.
https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/listening-to-alan-alda/
Bravo! Very good reply to Jew worshippers, who following their lying tradition which is imbedded in their DNA.
What about NON-BELIEVER don’t you get?
From my position, ALL the Abrahamic-based religions are a pox on humanity, but you Christians don’t even know your own Old Testament. Y’know, the whole Exodus-justified genocide-in-Palestine thing the ICJ is currently deliberating on? Deuteronomy and Joshua, in case you don’t know where to look…
The Jews have to commit God-commanded genocide in Palestine to build the New Temple and trigger Armageddon, and the Coming of the Messiah, Rapture etc. ™… oh wait, you Christians think Jesus was the Messiah… so the Christian God is planning a bait-and-switch on those deluded Jews and Zionists?
And Jesus was a Jew. Explain to the class how he could be “Christian” before the religion so-name existed? And when added to the above, that makes YOU a Jew-worshipper.
Have you EVER actually read the Bible? To follow it as the Fundamentalist Evangelical you appear to be, it is the Inviolate Word of God. So your wives and children are chattels (like livestock) and how many slaves do you own? Or if you are a slave, you are obedient to your master (Ephesians 6:5-9), and do everything modern-day Caesars demand of you? (Matthew 22:15-22)
Take the log out of your own eye…
1500’s… Seriously?
BUT HE’S NOT JEWISH… was raised Roman Catholic.
He’s a non believer, which means he may have ethnic Jewish roots, but he doesn’t ascribe to the RELIGION, so he has no RABBI to “ask”. As you stated…
And if he had married a Chinese woman he’d be Chinese? FFS
OF COURSE the Jewish Times is going to highlight any Jewishness in any celebrity they can find. But they conveniently ignore his NON-BELIEF… whodathunkit?
So this is where you fall back on “I was being sarcastic and you’re just too stupid to know it”?
Another thing about the CIA and MI6, there is a massive difference to being a spook for an agency that is intent on destroying the fabric of life in foreign countries and a spook who is working for an agency that wants to protect their motherland at all costs and has no intention of destroying foreign countries.
Most recruits in the west must come to the realisation very quickly that they are morally in the wrong job and so lack any motivation from then on to seriously work for the cause.
This is clear from the countless double spies western agencies have harboured and still harbour to this day.
I’m sure you yourself came to this realisation early on in your career as did many of your colleagues. Did you ever think your counterparts had such moral dilemmas?
MI6 is the Foreign Intelligence Service
MI5 is Domestic Counter-Intelligence
MI5 has no powers of arrest unlike FBI
What’s your point?
MI5 has no powers of arrest with a warrant unlike FBI
There fixed it for ya.
Looks like FBI is going full MI5,
MI5 cannot arrest it needs Special Branch to do that
There Is No Peaceful Solution for America
“It’s getting even harder to have faith in the American people, who seem to only have sense enough to open their mouths to eat or beg the government for some more “free stuff”, as we see them choose so badly in one election cycle after another.
There’s nothing wrong in using violence against tyrants, who have refused to follow the laws of the land, in order that we may remain free. After all, America was founded in violence and She will be saved by violence and Her hard men willing to make the hard choice.”
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/03/17/there-is-no-peaceful-solution-for-america/#more-332215
Is he right?
Scott Ritter gives advice every week on “Gegenpol”
to the Germans.
If the regime in the USA dissolves, it will also dissolve in the EU.
Together is the solution.
EU is dissolving
Now trying to undo Founding Treaty clause 41(2)
The burning platform is full of links with viruses!
You are really doomed….Watch…. if you are able…
https://t.me/rafapalreal/42491
Very interesting article, even though a bunch i knew already, from previous readings, history lessons ( had an interesting History teacher) …
I did only know a small part of the Korean War history ( a colleage i worked with never talked about his experience there, unfortunately, he served with Van Heutz, Dutch unit, in Korean War).
I keep on learning, adding more puzzle pieces to the whole puzzle, picture becomes more clear with each piece.
Greatly appreciate this blog.
Keep it up, Larry and contributors.
RobV
Read the book
The CIA: A Forgotten History | US Global Interventions Since World War 2
http://library.lol/main/4D426FE2BB73C54E3554F08B2EF0CB8B
Dont forget Operation Northwoods – a proposed false flag operation that originated within the US Department of Defense of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for CIA operatives to both stage and commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blame them on the Cuban government, and would be used to justify a war against Cuba.
Good piece.
Americans are by-and-large decent, genial folks.
That is much less true than it was 20 to 30 years ago.
Worst part is, it is definitely too late to change the course the Nazi survivors have set America onto. They’ve ensured that the entire perception of Russia in America serves exclusively to further the Nazi cause of fighting it – Larry himself can attest to that with his life experience. Perhaps the only reason regular Americans aren’t chomping at the bit to kill “those subhuman scum” is the very same aspect Larry mentions, the “Don’t know much about history …” bit.
The collective exposure of the population to the portrayal of Russia as designed by literal Nazi holdouts is such that, it can sadly be said, their mission has been a success – they conspired to poison a whole nation’s minds to become dupes continuing their cause and they have succeeded. We can regrettably count on the anti-Russian sentiment to underwrite American public acceptance of hostility against Russia and Russians for decades if not centuries to come, and with Russia obviously not backing down from the current conflict, it’ll feel “personal” to Americans now too.
The quite literally goddamned Nazi devils have committed one of the gravest sins, setting what used to be innocents in this regard on a path of evil and locking them into it. But that is a fait accompli now, what remains is to see what can even be done about it, if anything.
Hilarious: “Worst part is, it is definitely too late to change the course the Nazi survivors have set America onto.”
Neoconservatism (which is thoroughly Jewish) has a stranglehold on the USA’s foreign policy, but you saw a foto of some tatted lower class trash. So you inferred that “literal Nazi holdouts” must be leading the Zionist empire around by the nose.
The heresy of downplaying the importance of “nazi survivors” almost approaches the gravity of dissing the ‘Survivors.’
When I want to drive a single nail, I can use any one of several types of hammer which are handy. If none is nearby and the material isn’t too hard, I may just use the handle of a screwdriver.
Western hatred of Russia is rooted in the seething envy of Russia’s vast and incalculable natural resources. Even that warmongering skank Margaret Thatcher stupidity said as much out loud and let the cat out of the bag, on TV yet, ruminating aloud about all Russia’s treasures across its vastness, and baffled at the unfairness of how such a relatively small population should be allowed to keep so much.
Well you and your hoodlum friends would dearly love to fix that wouldn’t you Maggie, and split up the loot among yourselves whilst the rightful owners are scattered, and if you had anything to say about it, meet a far worse fate.
Most wars are resource wars, and that is what we have seen again and again in Russia. It is an Aladdin’s Cave of natural resources, from gold to gas, to precious metals and water.
Also, Russia is likely to be one of the winners of a warmer global climate, as vast areas previously under permafrost, become potentially arable.
From a globalist/colonialist perspective, it is the Holy Grail. They will not stop trying to steal it.
Yep. Beyond Stalingrad there was oil.
Yes, this will only get worse with time unless the Russians and others clamp down permanently on NGO rackets which only serve to set up insidious little nests of treason to usurp legitimate authority. It is a reliable racket and has brought many nations to ruin and strip mining by intruders. Try to get ahold of literature contemporaneous with the Russo-Japanese War which was hatched by the ancestors of our current vermin swarm, and note how the Japanese gave Russian POWs Bolshevik literature while awaiting repatriation. How very convenient. Now where would the Japanese get all that preprinted info in Russian during wartime. Because it was part of the plan to poison surreptitiously the minds of returning soldiers to do later Swampite bidding. Interestingly the Japanese were just as glad to see them off because they could barely keep themselves and the prisoners fed in rice. That 1905 war was supposed to launch the Bolsheviks but it was a bust, and the Tsar managed to fumigate but they were undeterred from death and theft. They have the mentality of termites. So they just went back to the drawing board to find some other way to sate their lust for what was never and should never, ever be theirs, and through careful plots did it again having plunged the whole world into a war thus allowing them to infest Russia.
The irony, of course, being the obscenely wealthy elite moaning at the unfairness…
Yes they know well what they want. They are essentially guttersnipes in positions of power which in turn lends itself to the acquisition of loot. Just the other day Jared Kushner blithely discussed the real estate potential of beachfront Gaza, even as tens of thousand of people were and are and evidently will continue to be put to violent deaths at the hand of his buddies. He didn’t even have the manners to wait until the bodies were cleared out to start blabbing. Thankfully Jared is a bit of a dunce and let the cat out of the bag. This is actually a glimpse into the minds of the same vermin who seek to steal Russian resources and rid the topsoil of pesky inhabitants. There are thousands of others like him festering along the banks of the Potomac. All of them so well dressed and holding all sorts of fancy titles.
Remember that according to Kushner family lore they came to America and had to start from scratch and in a matter of decades they became real estate moguls and billionaires. And that not being enough Jared managed to land himself a big fancy title and job that put him in history books. And that wasn’t enough. But underneath all of that, Jared’s inner guttersnipe just could not stay put, and forced itself out of his big mouth and he’s already sizing up the land while the bodies are still scattered everywhere and still piling up by the day, leaving the rest of the civilized world aghast. Proof positive that money cannot buy class. What a lout. This despite his billions, some of which would have been better spent on good schooling.
“No amount of varnish can hide the grain of the wood, for the more varnish you put on the more the wood will express itself.”
-Charles Dickens
Speaking of Kushner real estate projects …
https://www.rferl.org/a/jared-kushner-serbia-nato-bombing-belgrade-hotel/32873406.html
They should not let anyone or anything directly or indirectly connected to the Kushner crew anywhere near their real estate, especially after the vicious and cowardly NATO attacks during the manufactured Balkan War.. There are lots of other companies from which to chose without getting mixed up with them.
Of all the allied airmen downed in occupied Serbia during the war, not one ever got caught thanks to the Serbs rescuing and returning them to their comrades, often at the expense of Serbs who never betrayed them and paid the final price. And NATO was the filthy thanks they got.
Besides, Jared’s disgusting talk about already scavenging Gaza for business while the carnage is still in full swing is cause enough to write off him and his psychotic crew. He is a weirdo.
“He is a weirdo.”
Not in his tribe where he is a “regular guy” to be admired for his success
I’m sure that the tatted trash in those fotos have been directing events. They’re not just useful idiots of a Zionist empire which was founded in bad faith by dupes and zombies such as WASPs and Freemasons.
I’m sure that I-was-just-following-orders schtick will work for him in the court, and in state-sponsored all-inclusive SIberian holiday resort that he will visit after.
These idiots are indeed useful, but not as much as those financing the whole shitshow with their tax money.
Burns’ cable proves he’s not stupid &/or incompetent.
His spycraft crap suggests someone has him by the short n’curlies. Or on the take.
Burns has seen the Allan Dulles “light”.
The vast majority of Americans are bauble-headed morons who are easily bamboozled into hating whatever country Uncle Sam declares as the new enemy of the week. Uncle Sam taps the American people and they bauble their heads in agreement to whatever they are told. 99% of yankees have never been to another country and are unaware there are other peoples sharing this planet.
regarding soviet invasion of afghanistan in 79,
I hope CIA knew about it, as it was Brezinsky’s plan( or so he claimed), to lure the soviets in this quagmire, by funding the mujahedeens first (and not after russian intervention, as was commonly accepted in history books).
this is from a french interview he gave in 1998, but the english transcript follows.
https://www.les-crises.fr/oui-la-cia-est-entree-en-afghanistan-avant-les-russes-par-zbigniew-brzezinski/
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid…
All this just confirms my view that CIA should be dissolved and replaced with another intelligence agency. Don’t know about individual, lower-level employees, but ALL the senior people need to be fired and barred from further government service. They aren’t helping us.
Your article would have gotten off to a better start if the title were
WESTERN SUPPORT FOR UKRAINIAN NAZIS
ROOTED IN HATRED OF RUSSIA. BUREAUCRATIC
SCLEROSIS NOW ENDEMIC TO ZIONIST EMPIRE.
With that beginning, we can make better sense of the assertion that “Americans are by-and-large decent, genial folks.” In fact, most Americans are stupid, gluttonous connivers and collaborators. Now their disdain for honest history starts coming into focus.
Teddy Roosevelt’s grandson, Kermit R., was CIA Station chief in Tehran when the PM, Mossadegh, was overthrown bringing the Shah to power c. 1953. How’d that work out for the west? Answering the oft asked question…”how did our (USA) oil get under their sand?” All wars are resource/banker wars.
Yours is not to reason why…yours is but to do and die.
Actually it was Anglo Iranian that Held the concessions and Britain had a naval blockade on Iran. In return for CIA help Britain had to open Anglo Iranian‘s concessions to US
Just a note- Anglo Iranian was a subsidiary of Burmah Oil and renamed itself using a Deutsche Bank subsidiary which had been created – that shell was called British Petroleum (BP)
Anglo Iranisn was nationalised by Winston Churchill in WW1 to guarantee oil for navy since Shell was under Deterding too pro-German
CIA in the Service of the Crown, their very first Regime change.
Why is everyone so insistent that Mossadegh was a completely innocent bystander. He had to be part of the gang to get that far but he was either a pawn or he double crossed someone., and they ditched him.
“The intelligence network he offered to the Americans was a group of “outstanding German nationals who are good Germans but also ideologically on the side of the Western democracies.”. . .”
Because of my non-ideological, purely naturalist approach, I see these conflicts as biological struggles.
The White sub-species (to which I belong) has dominated the human stock for several hundred years (or a few thousand years if you start at the Roman Empire, I think the start should be the conquest of the Americas).
Within the White sub-species, there has been several sub-sub-species struggling for dominance. The German-Nord sub-sub-species, following the vision of the Austrian corporal, thought for a short time that they were superior to the Anglo+Mediterranean+Slav sub-sub-species but the Slavs+Anglo totally kicked German-Nord sub-sub-species ass to the point of complete submission.
The survivors of the German-Nord debacle mostly decided to take shelter as inferiors under the Anglo wing so currently German-Nord sub-sub-species licks Anglo’s ass while saying Danke/Tak/Tack.
The Slavs on the other have been suffering the Marxist shackles on their productive capacity but together with the major Asian sub-species they broke the Marxist shackles and started to grow very strong, so now Slavs+Asian sub-sub-species are challenging Anglo+minor sub-sub-species.
All the other sub-sub-species (actually the majority of the human world) are watching and waiting, most of then noting that Anglos are on the way down but still very strong.
It’s all very much like Chimp factions fighting for territory in the jungle.
In the long-long-term. sub-species will evolve into four separate species of naked monkeys (Whites, Blacks, Browns and Yellows) and then the biological conflict will finally be resolved one way or another.
Keep It Simple Stupid – it is the choice between four feet and two.
Empires demand four feet of their grovelers, as their Court Alchemist Darwin “proved”.
Choose – never mind the Chosen Ones :
TL;DR version:
Western Europeans successfully used their techological advantage all around the World, but then went against Russians. Also, they became gay. Survival of the fittest.
I think there can be no doubt that Burns has been brainwashed. The CIA knows all about brainwashing. Burns is in a trance, permanently. If he tries to get out of it he experiences intolerable pain.
Very interesting that what he said recently is exactly what the Guardian and Observer write, word for word. So the Guardian and Observer are CIA assets. I thought it was MI6. But then MI6 knows all about brainwashing too.
Somewhere in the Bible is the phrase ‘the day of incurable pain’. I expect that’s when Burns et al are forced out of their trance. One day it will happen. I don’t envy them.
Guardian under Katherine Viner is a disaster but the Scott Trust probably ran out of funds after selling Auto Trader and had to get British slush fund handouts
Yes they ran out of money. I think things were turned round under Alan Rusbridger. I’ve always suspected he sold the paper to MI6.
Burns discovered CIA founder Allan Dulles and Carl Jung. Posted above.
Thanks. Couldn’t find it.
Larry, This is a bullshit article. America’s hatred of the USSR had nothing to do with Nazis. It had to do with the behavior of Joe Stalin. Ukrainian’s hatred of Russia had to do with the Holodomor. How these evolved and festered over the years is a different subject.
The current hatred of Russia in the US is due to propaganda on the MSM vilifying Putin. Jewish Russian oligarchs were thrown out and came to London and New York and started to lobby the governments of BritIn and the US. I’m sure they found common cause with Jewish neocons who were all set to reinstall their tribal brethren back in their seats of power and once again provide generous donations to Israel.
Larry is still being mugged by reality, and he’s a long way away from believing that Jews planted despotic little colonies all over Europe more than 1,000 years ago.
The “holodomor” is an American invention created for the purpose of turning Ukrainians against Russia .
Much of the USSR suffered famine at that time, not just Ukraine. It was a result of widespread drought plus distribution problems from bad planning, not aimed at any one in particular.
Ukrainians needed a sob story akin to Jews so created one of great evil done to them alone ironically by Jewish Commissars
It was engineered. Look up Garth Jones.
Just as certain as Sun rising, a dog is barking.
“WESTERN HATRED OF RUSSIA ROOTED IN SUPPORT FOR NAZIS AND BUREAUCRATIC SCLEROSIS”
Myopia through framing.
“the CIA took over the Gehlen group.” …. who like many others were attempting to attain sustainable Persilsheinery, in emulation of some who “created” NATO, and some others also previously engaged in unbridled naughtiness – facilitated by modes of sub-contracting.
Why?
What do you mean as sustainable Persilsheinery?
That was the origin of Apes Planet….
https://t.me/rafapalreal/42496
A perfect storm over here……
SeemsOrSeams
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“WESTERN HATRED OF RUSSIA ROOTED IN SUPPORT FOR NAZIS AND BUREAUCRATIC SCLEROSIS”
Myopia through framing.
“the CIA took over the Gehlen group.” …. who like many others were attempting to attain sustainable Persilsheinery, in emulation of some who “created” NATO, and some others also previously engaged in unbridled naughtiness – facilitated by modes of sub-contracting.
Why?
“I realized that I do not have a full grasp of NATO’s history with Ukraine.”
Omniscience is never an option which you have increased by restricting your framing to NATO, thereby obfuscating practices of “The United States of America” in the region from “The Treaty of Versailles”; partly facilitated by “The United States of America’s” entry into “The First World War”; both inflection points in the trajectories in furtherance of the extent of “The American Empire” including but not limited to “The Weimar Republic” and “The Second Polish Republic”.
“The U.S. president is playing the deadly balancing act of privately ”
The conflation of attempt with achievement is popular.
Try to remember:
Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty-Dumpty had a great fall
All the king’s horses
And all the kings men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.