Count me very puzzled by and skeptical of today’s announcement that:
The man accused of manufacturing the bomb that killed 270 Christmas week travelers on Pan Am flight 103 is finally in U.S. custody … according to the Dept. of Justice.
It’s unclear how exactly the feds captured the suspect, Abu Agila Mohammad Mas’ud Kheir Al-Marimi, but he’s scheduled to be in a federal court Monday to face charges.
We are approaching the 34th anniversary of the terrorist bombing of Pan Am 103, which blew up over Scotland on December 21, 1988 and killed the 259 passengers and crew along with 11 Scots on the ground. Had the college students on board that ill-fated flight lived, they would be men and women in their 50s. Let me put this in perspective — if you remember Pan Am 103 then you are like the person in 1946 who remembered the sinking of the Titanic in 1912.
I played a peripheral role in the investigation of Pan Am 103. My boss (a man named Frank) and I worked in the U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism and were the direct liaison with the FBI agents investigatingthis case. (Those guys, if still alive, are in the seventies and eighties now.) When the FBI wanted to follow a lead in a particular country, Frank or I sent a cable to the U.S. Embassy in that country requesting Embassy approval and support for the team of FBI agents doing the investigation. We also met on several occasions with the grief-stricken families who wanted answers and justice for their loved ones.
Pan Am 103 was brought down by a bomb in a suitcase that was triggered by a MEBO timer. The initial investigation implicated two main suspects — Lamin Khalifah Fhimah and Abdelbaset al-Megrahi. Al-Megrahi subsequently was arrested, convicted and imprisoned by the Brits. He was released early from prison, suffering from prostate cancer and died shortly after being sent back to Libya. Fhimah was exonerated.
The name of Abu Agila Mohammad Mas’ud Kheir Al-Marimi did not surface until 2015. This came to light in the wake of the Arab spring, which had plunged Libya into chaos and ended the reign of Muammar Qaddafi. The identification of al-Marimi by Scottish prosecutors needs to be taken with a grain of salt because the Libyans pointing the finger at him came from political opponents of Qaddafi. Al-Marimi may be implicated or he may be innocent.
What I find puzzling is that the United States Rewards for Justice program does not list al-Marimi as a wanted terrorist. You can follow the link below and check it for yourself.
I do not know if the failure to offer a reward for him was the result of bureaucratic oversight or because U.S. officials do not believe the evidence against him was sufficient to make a legal case. Regardless, DOJ is now ready to prosecute and he is now on his way to the United States to stand trial. I will be interested to see the evidence that the DOJ is using. There is no forensic evidence tying him to the suitcase that contained the bomb. It appears the case rests on accusations from current Libyan officials who opposed Qaddafi.
I am curious what you think?
I’m glad you are picking up on this story, Larry. I find it curious also. The US cares little about true justice, IMO. There is almost certainly a hidden agenda which will soon come to light. The actual guilt or innocence of the man arrested is of minor relevance.
The actual guilt or innocence of the man arrested is probably of major relevance to the man arrested.
I am shocked they are still pushing this BS, long after it was proven false. Iran funded a group in Lebanon to down that Pam Am flight in retaliation for a US Navy shoot down of an Iranian airliner five months prior. They duped the Americans to place the bomb on the airliner. This has been proven, yet they are still trying to blame Libya! Here is a short video about the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxz_zWamixU
Moreover, the American CIA shipped thousands pounds of explosives and retired US Army bomb experts to Libya to help them assemble bombs!. This is shocking, yet proven by court documents. Here is a short video that includes former CIA officer Ed Wilson speaking from prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHBH24VzGvI
Truly curious. How do you establish PC for arrest based on hearsay evidence???
Oooops, my bad, wasn’t thinking, this is the NEW DOJ!
This appeared for a reason.
And it wasn’t Justice.
Well, the US did just trade a Russian ‘arms dealer’/intel asset for a millionaire black gay lesbian basketball player who plays, I know its a shock, in Russia for $1 million or so a year. The bad press from that has to be countered somehow. Arresting a – guess which religion – terrorist sure might change the narrative.
Pan Am, the airline whose Flight 103 was blown out of the skies over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, hired a crack investigator, Juval Aviv, a former Israeli intelligence agent, to find out who was behind the bombing. Pan Am later filed a claim in U.S. District Court against the U.S. government in the disaster, based on Aviv’s report. Mr. Aviv reported to Pan Am that the CIA, the DEA and the German Secret Service had for a considerable time known about and protected a Syrian drug-smuggling ring that was running heroin into the U.S. on Pan Am, by using a Turkish operative in the baggage operation at Frankfurt International airport, who switched suitcases full of heroin for identical, but innocent suitcases that had been checked in for Frankfurt to New York flights. The CIA allegedly used the Syrian operation to generate funds for the Nicaraguan contras and other “black” operations, and was also hoping, by favoring the Syrians, to get some of our six hostages in Beirut released, which would have done wonders for subsequent CIA budget requests in Congress. Apparently, a Palestinian (PFLP) terrorist group was also monitoring the Syrian drug gang, infiltrated it, and managed to place their bomb in the suitcase, in place of the heroin, on the ill-fated Flight #103. This whole sorry episode was reported in the December 17, 1990 issue of Barron’s, which is not generally considered a radical fringe publication or a rabid tabloid journal.
NBC News broadcast an almost identical story about Flight 103 on October 30, 1990, but implicating only the DEA, and not the CIA. According to the Barron’s story, the decision may have been made to let the DEA take the heat, if any, rather than the CIA, since the DEA had a “good guys” public image and could more easily stand a little bad press, throwing up their hands and saying, “Mea culpa, we screwed up,” If necessary.
Upon reading the 26-page report from his investigator, an irate Thomas Plaskett, chairman of Pan Am, reportedly declared, “You mean to tell me the CIA has been using Pan Am planes to run drugs? I thought I was running an airline.” Pan Am’s lawyers subpoenaed eight U.S. government agencies, asking that documents relating to the bombing be released, a move which the government immediately moved to quash, on the usual grounds: “national security.” To date, to my knowledge, the government has refused to produce any such documents in open court.
The icing on the cake on the saga of Flight 103 was the little-publicized tax law that was signed on November 16, 1990 by President Bush, as reported in the Weekly Tax Alert published by the Research Institute of America, 11/21/90. I only stumbled across this little nugget because I was practicing as a tax attorney at the time, and studying the details of that new tax law. Innocuously titled the “Aviation Security Improvement Act of 1990,” that law eliminated all tax liability of persons killed on Flight #103 for the years 1987 and 1988 (up to a maximum of 28% of the average pay of a certain level of government employee, as specified). The RIA newsletter deciphered this convoluted provision, and found that it amounted to a tax reduction of up to $20,300 per victim per year. Hmmm.
Why would the government take the odd and highly unusual step of eliminating and refunding income taxes, for two prior years, of victims of a terrorist crash, where the government was in no way responsible for their deaths? And why bury it in such obscure language in what purports to be an “aviation security” bill? While it may have been a laudable gesture, it strongly suggests that Congress and the White House knew that CIA and/or DEA drug-smuggling activities resulted in all those deaths on Flight #103 and that they wanted to do something for the surviving families of those killed – but there is no way the government could openly admit its complicity in this atrocity, not to mention its obscene hypocrisy, and directly pay benefits to the survivors.
Ergo, a Byzantine and camouflaged backdoor tax forgiveness, designed to mollify the bereaved and salve the consciences of the guilty in Washington?
Nice story, but it is nonsense. The underlying claim is that the CIA is competent. It is not.
Larry, you are dismissing this a bit too quickly IMHO. What is described may not be true, but it is not complex.
I don’t know. It did seem like, for a while there, that a 747 couldn’t go anywhere without blowing up, being blown up, exploding during climb out — or just falling out of the sky. Mainly.
If my memory serves me correctly, back in the day there were reporters and one of them interviewed a Scottish first responder (i remember watching the interview) who describes expecting to be first to the site and the place was already crawling with agents with American accents. It was no surprise, that’s for sure. I also remember noting then that if people didn’t care about that critical testimony, you were never going to get anywhere.
I think it’s why people like Michael Ruppert go nuts. A combination of OCD and a bunch of evidence that simply cannot align with the consensus information. Do you ignore the outlying information or do you obsessively keep trying to piece it together?
Michael Ruppert didn’t just go nuts (or not). He committed suicide (or not). He shot himself in the head (or not). At this point, with all the propaganda, and trying to make any sense out any of it, we are all Michael Ruppert (or not). Bang. Here’s the kick in the head: You decide. No community, no consensus.
No community. by design. There are few posters here who are participating in the design.
My point is that you can end up like Phaedrus in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance if you keep treating the input like it should be coherent. As a starting point you get half a deck of cards if you are piecing reality together from your computer.
I remember reading something many years ago that the bomb had been loaded in Frankfort as a plan to frame Libya. No idea if true or not. It is strange for this issue to have come back after all of these years.
With all due respect to the victims and families of the victims of what became known as the Lockerbie Attack (Pan Am Flight 103) the world would be much safer if they condemned those who destroyed Libya. Also because they are also responsible for much of the international terrorism of our time. But some anointed terrorists are never tried, let alone convicted. Despite having killed many more innocents in various wars.
I was working for GE in Syracuse when Pan Am Flight 103 took place, and all those Syracuse University students died. Just saying.
Talk about shock and awe. Sorry. Not really. A lot of years have gone by.
The Titanic? It sank. Get over it.
Pan Am Flight 103? At this point? Same thing. It crashed. Get over it.
We hang on to entirely too much. Grasping for anything that signifies how human we are.
We aren’t.
I’m human. I don’t know what you are.
Al,blame-e was speaking collectively and he is right.you claim to be human,we all are.what blame-e meant was we are not humane.hitler was human,pol pot was human,madelaine albright was human.
No need to talk about the biggest monsters. The American people may not be able to elect the president they want but they managed to stop the conflict in Ukraine very quickly. However… In the same way that all international terrorism was not born of spontaneous generation but of centuries of exploitation that never bothered the populations in the West very much.
Incidentally, I often think that after the conflict in Ukraine, with a multipolar NWO and a refounded NU with headquarters as far away from the US as possible and with the entry of countries like China and India into the SCUN, the world could correct a of the great injustices of WWII and one of its great problems today. Also because I don’t believe in Religious States. Whether they are Muslim, Jewish or Christian. Religion in the 21st century must always be an individual and not a collective option. And since the Ukrainians already in WWII had proved that they were not worthy to run a country after Babi Yar, the territory of Ukraine west of the Dnieper should be given to the Jews of Israel who should abandon the Zionist obsession with Jerusalem.
Even for the sake of world security! In Ukraine with the nationalists and in the Middle East with the Arabs. And they were doing the world a great favor by taking care of Ukrainian nationalists and running a country as rich as Ukraine – much bigger than Israel with its modern technologies. They made Ukraine very quickly one of the biggest European economies. And since most of Israel’s population came from eastern Europe, from communities with great vitality like the Jewish community in Poland, it was just a homecoming as it should have been at the end of WWII. In a world with much more peace without the endless wound of the Middle East! And Jerusalem should be an international city as envisaged by the UN for Jews to visit or go on pilgrimage whenever they want as Muslims go to Mecca. It was an excellent idea for the world with much more peace!
Your post is OT- but cant help but respond: Unfortunately when the Titanic sank it took four of the richest American bankers in the world with it who just happened to be opposed to the formation of a central bank (the Fed); the very next year (after Wilson was ushered into office) Americans got a central bank and an income tax. Such a coincidence, oy vey. Knowing our past helps us know we arrived to our present, which may help us build a better future. Because we ARE human. NOT cattle (goys).
Some good news Larry.
On DuckDuck Go browser your new site gets a green circle. Press the dot and a list appears of third party trackers. Only one little one.
Old mate Salty Bear on smoothiex12 reminiscing the future ( owned by Google)
RED DOT press it
Gets all these trackers.
Amazon
Discus
YouTube
Google X 10
Buy coffee
Revolver maps
I have Apple blockers and ad blockers then this still shows up?
Want to donate a few dollars but not risking America’s business model.
CIA still buying and using Israeli spyware. Shock horror!
Sputnik has only one, to see if I am spying on them LOL.
Soon my reading will be books only.
The plane bombing, let me guess, colonel Putin did it from the USSR embassy basement in East Berlin German. Kirbys lies are as low as a snakes arse so we will see the Putin did it, narrative explode soon.
Everything l once loved about America is long gone.
Thanks for the info.
I think I too am quickly approaching the book-only reading phase. These days you never know what website is for real and which is a honeypot that is used to attract the flies….
are you being tracked even if you use a VPN like NordVPN.
The trackers are the result of ads.
sonar21 doesn’t have ads, Martyanov does.
Ad blockers work in one sense: they block the posting of ads – but they don’t work in another: it is trivially obvious that you are using one. And ad blockers don’t stop tracking; there are all manner of ways by which a user can be tracked if desired.
For example: go to amiunique.org. This is a nonprofit research website that tells you just how “unique” you are purely by asking your browser for info about the browser’s setup. Nothing else: no cookies, no tracking pixels, etc etc.
Most people are not unique, interestingly enough. Meaning even a non-Google or non-Facebook user can be tracked simply via their browser profile. Add in a little external data and it is basically impossible to be truly anonymous – at least to the web sites you visit.
How about a few facts, not assumptions. The Duck Duck Go browser shows who is trying to track you. Last time l clocked in to see if Larry was giving another tutorial, there was a row of blocked trackers.
Do what I did…..look at half a dozen sites to see, “who or what, who’s paid and who hasn’t paid.”
For the record the blocked trackers varies on when you are logged in.
The VPN : ask the question, “who owns it? ”
Is Duck Duck Go safe ? and not compromised by the spooks ? I am prepared to bet your balls that, yes! it is safe.
Ad trackers are not hunting other ads. The are hunting humans. Or any mammal with a middle school IQ.
I’m afraid you are right. As a life long patriot and believer in the ideals set forth by the Founders, I find it sickening to see the disastrous (to us and to others) policies the current infestation of incompetent political prostitutes who run the US government are inflicting upon us and the rest of the world. And as a long-time Russophobe, I have to admit I’m now glad to see that at last someone, Russia, is standing up to this wrecking crew, though I’m not happy to see Russia teaming up with China, which is a real foe of America and of humanity, IMHO. It seems the WEF has adopted the Chinese model for reshaping society in the coming Western dystopia, and since they control the high ground (governments, media, academia, K-12, and voting systems), I don’t see Russia or anyone else stopping them from implementing their agenda by 2030.
If, as is likely, the WEF/NATO loses badly in Ukraine, it will just forward their domestic agenda of eliminating the middle class in the West. Whoever wrote the script for the old “Soylent Green” movie must have had a crystal ball.
Great insights as always. To keep another plausible theory in play (to me and a few others at least), it is possible that the plane crash was due to a massive structural failure such as occurred with 747 flight 811. It too was climbing when a large section of the fuselage peeled away. If the failure had propagated further, it would have crashed with a detached forward section as with the Lockerbie crash as the plane could have lost control exposing the weakened nose section to severe aerodynamic forces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_811
The Lockerbie 747 was, IIRC, climbing through a severe crosswind that may have over-stressed a poorly designed or poorly inspected area of the air frame.
I do vividly remember the incident and recalled the wonder of commentators on how such a massive failure could occur with what was believed to be be a very small bomb. The theory supposes that the iconic 747 reputation needed protection hence a story was cooked that would satisfy public opinion. What could be better than blaming terrorism? IIRC, it was initially a PLO job but eventually the finger pointed at Libya. The witness linking a Libyan was to say the least incredulous.
Just wanted to keep this theory alive as I personalty believe that there is supporting circumstantial evidence and multiple motives to suppress it.
Just part of an arsenal of weapons of mass distractions.
Thank you for posting this. I have a personal interest in the Lockerbie bombing, as two of the passengers had been fellow pupils at my school, King Edward VI High School for Girls in Birmingham, UK. I knew one of them, Helga Mosey, quite well – she was in my year. The father of the other, Flora Swire, became well known for his campaign for the release of Megrahi. Dr Jim Swire believed Megrahi to be innocent, and accused the British government and the SNP administration in Scotland of orchestrating a cover-up. This is his website: http://www.lockerbietruth.com/
Larry, I am going off memory here, but didn’t the NYT report several years later after 103 went down that one of the CIA’s top Middle East’s people was on that flight. Speculation was that the Iranians played Mummar for a dupe and blew it up in retaliation for the Iranian airliner shot down during the 1980s.
There was a man with the nickname TINY. He was a mountain of a man. Part of a Top Secret unit (not delta and not Seal Team 6). That theory was investigated and dismissed.
Reminds me of the Starwars movie “The Rise of Skywalker”. Chewbakka had to crouch down in order not to be obvious when the team went to find the missing beacon, or whatever. Covert ops need to blend into the background but individuals such as Chewie or Tiny would make it rather an overt operation, rather than covert.
Which leads to the matter of competence, or incompetence as the case might be.
I too came across this theory years ago. I think it was in an interview with Gaddafi’s son. He said Libya was pressured by the US to accept responsibility in order to end economic sanctions against them, however, it was actually the Iranians who did it in retaliation for the downing of Iran Air flight 655 in 1988 by the USS Vincennes.
An interesting article and also event. It is interesting how the causes of airline disasters can be muddied up by political considerations. MH117 is the most obvious recent case. But Lockerbie is perhaps more confused. As one commenter points out, some people doubt that it was the bomb that brought down the plane and not equipment failure. CIA, MI5/6, Anti-Qaddafi Libyan groups. There are all sorts of people with something to gain from the disaster. To bring charges based on testimony from people with political motives is, of course, suspicious — especially after so many years. But — as Larry says — one should never assume competence on the part of the CIA. Or, from my point of view, on the part of State.
Let me add something that is controversial here. The conspiracy theory people might have gotten another one right. Maybe there is more to these bombings, like 9/11, than meets the eye.
I think there’s a 2012 tweet from Trump that says something to the effect that maybe one of these days we’ll find out who really was responsible for 9/11. I take him at his word.
Mr. Johnson- the major thing about the arrest of this individual for the Pam Am 103 bombing is the timing of it and the agenda behind this arrest at this point in time.
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this bombing which i do not think has ever been fully solved killing 329 people in 1985 is another one of those mysteries with a geo-political agenda.
i wonder if yu know anything about the below.
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/air-india-flight-182-bombing
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it looks like they are really going after the church in the ukraine know. all of the worldwide christians still supporting zelensky after they watched the tucker video are know hypocrites in my opinion.
https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/tucker-carlson-zelenskyys-cabinet-is-devising-ways-to-punish-christians
Tucker Carlson: Zelenskyy’s cabinet is devising ways to punish Christians
https://youtu.be/06jNW8cVIVg
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mr. johnson- yu may or not find this interesting. Am sending it mainly due to the discussion of the persecution of the ukraine church. Allot of the video i definitely take with a grain of salt. since you are busy a time stamp synopsis is below.
IT’S FINALLY HABBENING!!! The Storm Has Begun
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MA18kvA1hLj3/
https://www.bitchute.com/embed/MA18kvA1hLj3/
0.00 – lady with brit accent rant about our lack of action against tyanny
4.10 – aussie guy talking about anticommunist activities in brazil
15.22 – el salvador
16.45 – jimmy dore about peru leader being deposed
19.00 – about trump still in power- this ukraine war would never had happened
21.07 – Alex christoforou clip
23.19- supreme court petition
28.12 – desantos going after big pharma
31.39 – steven bannon with ex blackrock guy ed dowd on big pharma
33.23 – republican house going after biden
35.55 – saving canada podcast
41.21- romeo george exposes zelensky for persecution of the ukrainian church
45.47- weird stuff- animals circling
49.10 – banker clip from 10 yrs ago- very erie
55.55- enos guy telling audience to keep fighting
regards,
ralph
As someone has said, terrorism is an indication of weakness. It is driven by hate. A glaring example of this desperation of weakness is the shelling of Donetsk for many years and its increase in intensity. Western media and governments ignore it and continue their lies. Pathetically, church goers parrot their swill. Thanks for your Tucker link.
80 civilians killed, 200 wounded in Ukrainians’ shelling of Donetsk, in ONE week.
« What I find puzzling is that the United States Rewards for Justice program does not list al-Marimi as a wanted terrorist. »
Perhaps there were doubts about whether he would need to be exhumed to face charges.
I think there was a pope (or something similar) who they did exhume somewhere in the Middle Ages to face trial … Justice cannot be denied
Oliver Cromwell too. https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-figures/oliver-cromwell.htm
“Speculation was that the Iranians played Mummar for a dupe and blew it up in retaliation for the Iranian airliner shot down during the 1980s.”
Larry : “That theory was investigated and dismissed”
Then Allan Francovich’s “The Maltese Double Cross” is a fraud?
Too bad it was a nice story.
There are headlines at dozens of western mainstream sites about this, a bit like the Bin Laden raid that took place years after he died. It just seems like misdirection to me – getting people interested in anything other than what’s going on in Ukraine. Also, if you look back they’ve had him in custody for at least two years, and it says here that he confessed in 2012!
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/department-of-justice-charges-alleged-bombmaker-behind-1988-terror-attack-on-pan-am-flight-103/
A fair trial in the US, based on mostly hot air and hear-saying … that is one good joke. Yes, he will be punished, innocent or not in this yet another mockery of a trial.
US is also projecting power here. Unilateral sanctions, meddling in other countries elections, sponsoring of uprisings all over the world, rebranding and supporting of terrorist organizations … no-one should kid themself what that is really all about.
I think that after the Brittney Griner fiasco the government needed a “We got ’em. We got our man.”
But watching Maria Zachrova rolling her eyes while the whole world watched really captured the essence of the thing. The whole Brittney Griner farce (an epic dropped the ball of crazed cultural proportions kind of mess), and another desperate attempt by the government to show something real, like “We still know how to get our . . . whatever” kind of thing. Brittney Griner and “who was that LGBT masked . . . whatever?”
But some Abu Agila Mohammad Mas’ud Kheir Al-Marimi? Huh? What?
This is like a twisted kind of Hamilton musical affirmation. The Griner fiasco and then this immediate masked thing just about gave me propaganda whiplash.
By this point, just about any narrative, even an old and obsolete one, is preferable to the Brittney Griner musical.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=c6b63fe1a655c131JmltdHM9MTY3MDgwMzIwMCZpZ3VpZD0xNTJjNTFkYS05N2QwLTZjNmItMmEzZi00M2EyOTY3ODZkNWImaW5zaWQ9NTQ5OA&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=152c51da-97d0-6c6b-2a3f-43a296786d5b&psq=hallelujah+song&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGFpbHltb3Rpb24uY29tL3ZpZGVvL3hiNG1nNw&ntb=1
Let’s try this.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb4mg7
I thought the bombing was in retaliation for the US shooting down an Iranian airliner killing hundreds. No apology given.
That was one theory. Qaddafi also had a motive following US bombing a few years earlier that killed some of his children.
All I know was that Gaddaffi was a terrorist in 1989, 10 years later he was a good guy. 10 years after that he was a terrible person and Libya was bombed soon after because he was “committing genocide” against what appeared to be a bunch of terrorists.
So I’ll conclude that all the charges and non-charges against libyans over Lockerbie are acts of diplomacy and have nothing to do with Lockerbie but everything to do with CIA/MI6.
In 1999-2000, I was working in Tripoli for an Airbus operator subcontracting to Libyan Arab Airlines.
Word in the souk implicated a man named Sabri. Had an office and sinecure with the airline but never showed for work.
Qaddafi put him in prison on a fraud charge and I left when the subcontractor declared bankruptcy. Never had contact with him.
Isn’t this guy lucky?
How many people swept up in the war of terrah still rotting in gitmo without charges and definitely no trial.
Speaking of Gaddafi, did you know he wrote a book?
Here it is. Worth reading for some perspective IMO.
http://openanthropology.org/libya/gaddafi-green-book.pdf
Gaddafi was working towards a pan african gold backed currency. For that he was removed by the banking cartel’s puppets.
The Green Book is a template for the fair government of a tribally divided country. There may be a lesson in there for our own rapidly fragmenting state. The irony of it.
Terrorism is how the weak fight the strong. Since the strong control the narrative, all terrorism is damned unless it is the strong doing it, then it is called something else.
“Gaddafi was working towards a pan african gold backed currency. For that he was removed by the banking cartel’s puppets.”
Yup. Perhaps even more importantly, he had initiated talks with Russia and China for trading Libyan oil in rubles and yuan.
That was a death sentence. The transformation of Gaddafi from our trusted partner in the war on terror to Hitlerian figure that must be removed seemed to happen overnight, as I recall.
And the transformation of Libya from one of the two or three richest nations in Africa, to utterly failed state, happened pretty fast as well.
If both Saddam and Muammar had of held back their plans to ditch US$ until now imagine how much stronger the Russian alliance would be.
They both stuck their necks out too soon…..
“They both stuck their necks out too soon … ”
Exactly. And the cost of those early bird mistakes, meant the former would have his neck wrung by a noose until dead, and the latter would be sodomized to death by bayonet.
The lesson, you do not f*ck with the US dollar and live to tell the tale.
Unless you’re are Russia and China, of course. No matter what happens in this full spectrum global conflict going forward, I am fairly certain that Putin and Xi, although both may not live long enough to see an eventual peaceful resolution, will not meet such ignominious ends.
It used to be the only damn book available in the local bookshops.
Almost died of boredom.
Luckily it was easy to smuggle alcohol through the airport. Customs searched the luggage but never the person.
this is a vid on the book. i came across it by accident awhile ago.
regards,
ralph
GADDHAFI’S GREEN BOOK
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cQ6dxmqdSXtG/
https://www.bitchute.com/embed/cQ6dxmqdSXtG/
“I am curious what you think?”
When did guilt start to matter in such matters in “The United States of America?”
Somebody going Dutch in cleaning shit?
Prep work to blame Iran.
Fed says
“Prep work to blame Iran.”
spot on. as sanction start loosing their teeth, propaganda is about the last weapon left in the arsenal
Why were the McKee Team on the plane? Why were they accused of returning to the US without permission?
Monzer al-Kassar?
I’m so on the outside of Pan Am, I could never comment, except to say that set off my “smell-a-rat-o’meter” because the FBI was involved. However, I was always skeptical of the TWA flight 800 “explosion” and crash that killed 230 off the Hamptons coast of New York/Long Island. The FBI sent in hundreds of investigators, setting of the “meter” again. Every time the FBI goes in, fog comes out. Ron Unz wrote an American Pravda on things that happened during Bill Clinton’s two terms and one was TWA 800. https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-major-mysteries-of-the-1990s/ . I simply don’t trust the FBI and that started 30 or 40 years ago. And look at them now. Did the Navy let a missile loose and the FBI covered it up? Dozens of people saw the missile go up and kill the plane, but the FBI called it an optical illusion. And the media dutifully went along. And the witnesses probably squashed or paid off.
Then this popped up in Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/lessons-us-civil-war-show-why-ukraine-cant-win-opinion-1764992 . Last month, the White House went nuts over a small cadre’ in the House that demanded auditing of the next round of budgeting the war, 60-odd billion dollars to ensure the weapons were getting in and not being siphoned off. In literally moments, the cadre’ (comprised of The Squad, or some House Republicans, I can’t remember [?]) shut down the demand for an audit probably under threat of some sanction or another.
Now, per this Newsweek piece, if true, we have active-duty military in Ukraine supposedly “making sure” weapons go where they’re supposed to, especially HIMARS. I gotta call bullshit, they’re providing hands-on training to the Ukies, OR, they’re actually operating the weapons for them. A resort or some such was blown up with HIMARS last night near Crimea, killing a bunch of folks. So, WTF? Now an audit is cover for bringing in missile crews? After they killed the audit concept last month?
Sometimes I hate that I grew up and worked in DC, got familiar with some of these folks. I’d probably be happier not knowing instead of being pissed off at these a-holes when they crawl out from under rocks with their plots, lies and cover every time something nefarious comes up. Larry, should I drink more and forget it?
first look to israel, then to US.
Next look to Israel-US.
All other directions are red herrings.
Does anyone remember when it was disclosed that several CIA agents, were said, were aboard that flight. It was also said they were returning to Washington with incriminating documents proving CIA complicity in the heroin trafficking. My memory may be wrong, but wasn’t all baggage screened by Israeli’s contracted by the airport? There’s a lot to unpack. Maybe Larry Johnson has more info on this hypothesis.
Beirut attache the target?
https://apnews.com/article/13f631140e533d85f01cdc281411ca63
I am an hours drive from Lockerbie at the moment and remember it quite vividly, which is strange as I have an awful memory and I was a kid when it happened. It had a big affect on this country.
Bear in mind that we are only two years on from the last appeal on behalf of Magrahi ‘s family.
Also Scots law is quite different from English.
Families of some of the victims here as well as investigators certainly believe it was a set up after witness statements by Gauci and forensic evidence of the timer among some of which being called into question.
They also claim to have been spied on.
1994 documentary on the subject. Can’t speak to it’s veracity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B5hv6scbBo
Just a thought…the Biden admin (or whoever is really in charge) has to portray the illusion that:
(a.) it is tough on terrorism
(b.) the US intel community consists of top notch agencies committed to US security and justice
…both are as stated “illusions” but the arrest fits nicely into IO operations that the administration is effective at (a.) and (b.)
…my two cents worth.
” … the Biden admin (or whoever is really in charge) … ”
Lmao … Who is in charge? It ain’t the Biden administration, I’m certain of that, but as for who really is I can only speculate.
The global “banking cartel”, as cognoscere called it above, is also, my prime candidate, for the simple reason that those have the power of money creation, have the ultimate power known to man.
What exactly consitutes the global “banking cartel” is unclear due its enormous complexity and the oft time conficting interests of its varied members, but one thing that is clear, is China, alone amongst this current configuration of nation-states, has their own banks.
I can’t stress it enough. If you are a nation-state and you have your own banks, you are sovereign, if you don’t, you are anything but.
And that means China is the only sovereign nation-state on this planet. Period.
Note: Personally, I think the Bilderberger Group is the one that ties all the roiling madness together. Or at least does its best to do so. The World Economic Forum, which gets all the pub, is just the Bilderberger’s recruitment arm, the groomers of the globalist up and comers.
And in recent years, it seems to me the WEC has come to also serve as the Bilderberger’s public face. Classic deflection. Let all eyes fall upon the controversial Forum, while the real business of running the world can continue to be carried out, in the dark.
Thanks, interesting reading, from you, what gave me these associations, about one of the deceased passengers, no one mentions here: Mr Bernt Carlsson,(b.38) a Swedish Social democrat. From 1987 to his death he was a the deputy general secretary at the UN, and the High commis-sioner for Namibia. In fact he was on his way to New York,to sign the agreement of Namibia s´ independence, and a very important geopolit-ical player
From the blog: arc.doc.se (2020) I find info about his whereabouts that day. Flight nr 103 was in fact two planes, first departed from Frankfurt a 727 , landed at Heathrow and now (re-)loaded on a 747, and took off December 21, 1988, 18.25 a´cl. , but exploded after 38 minutes in the air. (The wreckage of the plane is stored at Tattersall (UK.).
Bernt was a close friend of Olof Palme who was murdered, in Stock-holm, on the night.February 28, 1986. But cui-bono? The author see a parallel to the Palme-murder, to solve effective a political problem. Libya was blamed and Kaddaffi, and the WOT in North Africa, was stoked.
The book: 2014 – Adequately Explained by Stupidity? Lockerbie, luggage and lies/ of Morag G. Kerr, claims that the suitcase was loaded on board at Heathrow, not Frankfurt and Malta, but it was present in bagagecon-tainer, one hour before take-off, and was placed close to Bernt’s suit-case, (“it’s not the crime – but the cover up”). (I will try to borrow this study.There´s radio broadcasts, pods , about I will listen to them, there your boss is mentioned, perhaps I can return later about the pods.)
Bernt boarded the plane at Heathrow, but had within short time chan-ged his plans, because of a meeting, he should go to New York, but from Brusells airport, to sign the Namibias´ independence document.
(Bernt’s safe at the UN was later emptied, as looted of unexplainable reasons.)
There was an uranium ore mine, ”yellowcake” (Rössing) in Namibia, what was illegal extracted by South Africa, and after the Lockerbie, Mrs Thatcher (UK) made pressure on UN, to approve this mining, to be delivered to UK.
The UNCN (1974) banned all producing of raw materiels from Namibia, who produced 10% of global uranium resources , 1/3 of UKs. This reso-lution was only respected of Sweden, (as an embargo of Swedish industries in South Africa,(as SKF, ball bearings, Atlas Copco , mining equipment)a ban, to re-invest for the future, this was one of Olof Palme´ special political decisions , and maybe this was a motive to take him out, from white circles in South Africa, just before the apartheid-regime fell. Such suggestions been made, since 1986.
Interests from the Dutch,(URENCO) South Africa, AngloAmerican De Beers, but the Rössing Mine Company managed to delay the implemen-tation of UNs, and due to Bernt Carlssons death, on his way to sign the deal, all prosecutions of URENCO was canceled. (Even the Swede, UN Gen.secretary,. Dag Hammarskjöld´s plane was downed 1961, over Rhodesia, Ndola, maybe because of the mining of special “strategic metals” in former Belgian Congo, Katanga province and Moise Tshombe.)
Conclusions: Unknown to me: so the flight 103, was made of two planes, unusual ?, the fatal suitcase was reloaded at the Heathrow,
from a 727 to the 747, and Mr Carlsson was maybe targeted for his
UN-mission, for Namibia, in the last days of the apartheid South Africa.
What do you make of it, so far ?
Biden desperate for a win, any win. He totally Fuc_ed up the Lesbo deal setting a “bad” guy free in exchange for a perverted America hating idiot.
Yotube is no longer translating automatically generated subtitles, I follow the channels that talk about the war in Ukraine, Alexander Mercurios, Brian Berletic, Andrei Martyanov, Scott Ritter, Douglas Macgregor etc.
Alternative platforms to Youtube do not have auto-generated subtitles.
Any suggestion?
Larry: Though it’s admittedly off-topic in this thread, I thought I’d pass along this link, since a prior post of yours on this blog features quite prominently in Alastair Crooke’s latest essay:
“The U.S. Cuckoo in the European Nest”
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2022/12/12/us-cuckoo-in-european-nest/
Enjoy!
What’s really happening or going to happen.
I remember Pam Am 103 as the many other such vague convoluted events throughout my lifetime. They all have one commonality the FBI and the CIA showing up and taking over only to confuse and eventually muddle up the whole affair with the yapping media consistently parroting the State Department narrative.
I grew up respecting often admiring all the alphabet agencies.
Now, I despise every organization and agency remotely connected to our failure of a government.
Right now everyone, everybody, every group and organization related to government is immediately guilty until proven innocent.
Now, instead of being proud of my government I’m fully disgusted and embarrassed. If I could I’d pack all my family and loved ones and vacate this land of perverts.
One last comment I’m done:
What we’re witnessing is the reaping of a harvest. One which was sown 150 years ago.
You are familiar with this faithful saying surely worthy of repeating:
“You reap what you sow”
This a universal principle that can’t be denied and it certainly applies to governments of men.
Commercial airliners have overpressure valves, but the valves can’t handle the extreme localized overpressure caused by a bomb. This is the reason why bombs are deadly against airliners. When jet airliners disintegrate in flight the cause usually is a bomb with very few exceptions.
Although terrorism is a tool of the weak, it is far from being a tool that is used exclusively by the weak.
Last but no least, when state actors are involved in the downing of commercial jets, the odds of learning what happened are somewhere between slim and none.
There are games within games, and wars within wars. Why did this poor putz get arrested now? Who knows. Hell, there is a 1% chance he is guilty. Here is another fun example. Jerome Powell raising interest rates. Do you think that is to fight inflation? Oh, a little bit. But this is Jamie Dimon against Klaus Schwab and the WEF. The EU fantasy mommy socialist state only survives on zero interest rates even before the insane energy sanctions. When we pay 4 or 5% and the EU is damn near negative? Capitol comes here. When German factories cannot afford energy? They move here. The EU dies this winter. Their economy dies. And since our next arraigned war is China? This is perfect. Because all the factories and capitol move here. We have no supply chains. Oh yeah, and we have illegal Hispanic slave labor. Instead of those snotty Chinese who think they should make a living wage now. The chess board is so fucking big us little pawns cannot see the end of the table. And if these nitwits do not engage us in a nuclear war, the US is going to win. Globalization only worked with Chinese slave labor and cheap energy/transportation. We have food and fuel here in the US. If European cash and capitol moves here, we have a complete ecosystem. The Russians and Chinese will trade and survive. The Europeans will live in a SubSaharan ghetto. India will be India. And Africa and the Middle East will be shitholes.
I have not read through the comments but being an aircraft maintenance engineer, I have worked on and studied the various accidents involving the B747. All these accidents have one thing in common and that is the frame 41 cracking that caused an explosive decompression, including the TWA800 flight, Air India- Flt 182, UA Flt 811. Boeing eventually put out an AD to inspect and repair this problem.
Most of my knowledge comes from something I read or something somebody said. Certainly true of the Lockerbie bombing. Does Larry know whether the reports of the Americans on the ground at the crash site before they could have been without prior knowledge are true? If read him correctly he says the story that the Iranians were actually behind it is nonsense. Although he doesn’t say it outright he intimates that the official story and conviction of the Libyan is correct. Is that so? What I think is the Iranian story tracks best for me. The Libyan conviction seems really dodgy. I have no idea about the CIA did it to stop honest operatives from revealing drug dealing by the CIA. I do believe they would kill their own if that was in their own best interests. As is the case when there are controversies about what really happened the official story is the mostly likely not to be true. As was said about the official conspiracy story of 9/11, “the official story is just too fantastic, there must be a better one.” If it is not the CIA, what part of the American government is behind the successful change to using lawfare to change governments the US doesn’t like? Imran Khan in Pakistan – Dilma Roussef in Brasil, then Lulu sent to jail- Castillo in Peru – getting Kirchner convicted in Argentina. Was it the CIA behind the really dumb attempt recently in Venezuela? I believe it was Victoria Nuland in charge of the Maidan coup in Ukraine. The old style was successful for a while in Bolivia but somehow the Bolivians actually got elections to do away with it.
Tony Blair paid a visit to Qaddhafi in 2007 and subsequently some Lockerbie bombing charges were dropped and BP got a nice oil production deal there.
I think most people know that Iran was responsible for the Lockerbie bombing, as pay back for Iranair 655 shoot down, but the US wanted to bury the Iranair story, so framed Libya.