Now that the hysteria surrounding the Chinese “Spy” Balloon I am hoping that logic and reason will take over and we will realize that instead of a NORAD failure that jeopardized national security, the wayward balloon was seized as an opportunity by the Biden Administration to display Biden’s prowess as a Commander in Chief on the eve of the State of the Union address. Of course the incompetents that surround the equally feckless Biden turned the incident into a dangerous clown show.
Let us start with NORAD. The Commander of NORAD admitted that he was aware of the balloon as it approached Alaska but judged it “harmless.”
VanHerck said the U.S. did have “domain awareness” of the most recent Chinese balloon as it approached Alaska:
“It was my assessment that this balloon did not present a physical military threat to North America — this is under my NORAD hat. And therefore, I could not take immediate action because it was not demonstrating hostile act or hostile intent,” he said.
Got that? Not hostile. At that point the Biden Administration could have done a couple of things. First, call the Chinese Ambassador to the U.S. State Department and have Secretary of State Blinken demand answers from China about its wayward balloon. Second, Secretary of Defense Austin could have called his counterpart in China and delivered the same message. Had we done this the Chinese would have been on notice that we were not asleep at the switch. But none of that happened.
Somewhere between Alaska and Montana the White House learned that the balloon was going to float across the United States and decided this would be great PR on the eve of the State of the Union. Joe Biden would get to demonstrate his chops as Commander in Chief by ordering a military strike on the sauntering gas bag and go to Capitol Hill on Tuesday night as the man who took on China.
But the bankrupt “brain” trust that surrounds Joe Biden failed to anticipate the political and public reaction for doing nothing to protect American air space until the balloon was over the ocean. Instead of being seen as a strong decision maker, Biden was lampooned as an addled dementia patient who failed to protect America from a potentially lethal balloon.
The balloon (and Biden’s reputation) were not the only casualties from this bit of National Security Kabuki theater. Biden also blew a gaping hole in the U.S. relations with China. Biden could have phoned his good friend, General Secretary Xi Jingping, and shared his concerns about the balloon. But instead of using diplomacy and keep the lines of communication with China open, Biden insulted his financial benefactors and created a predicate for shooting down stray aircraft and balloons that the Chinese are certain to use against us when the opportunity presents itself.
Moon of Alabama highlighted Lloyd Austin’s feeble attempt to get the toothpaste back in the tube:
China Isn’t Ready to Pick Up Phone After Balloon Incident
Chinese officials rejected a request from the U.S. defense secretary to speak with his counterpart after an American fighter jet shot down a Chinese spy balloon.The Pentagon said on Tuesday that China had rejected a request from Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III to speak with his Chinese counterpart on Saturday soon after an American fighter jet shot down a Chinese spy balloon off the coast of South Carolina.
The Chinese already were alarmed by the leaked letter from the head of Air Mobility Command, General Mike Minihan:
A four-star Air Force general sent a memo on Friday to the officers he commands that predicts the U.S. will be at war with China in two years and tells them to get ready to prep by firing “a clip” at a target, and “aim for the head.”
In the memo sent Friday and obtained by NBC News, Gen. Mike Minihan, head of Air Mobility Command, said, “I hope I am wrong. My gut tells me will fight in 2025.”
Minihan’s intemperate musings, which one has to assume had the approval of his Chain of Command, were seen in Beijing as a direct threat. Imagine that you are a lead military planner in the Chinese military. You have the Minihan letter and you have the shoot down of what the Chinese insist is a weather balloon. Will you tell your bosses that the United States is just kidding or do you conclude that the United States is hell bent on a military confrontation? Any responsible analyst would go with the latter.
Biden and his inept National Security team are playing with nuclear fire. China is not going to be bullied. Unlike Biden, however, Xi Jingping and his national security team are patient and will make the necessary preparations. I believe their willingness to give the Untied States the benefit of the doubt going forward is at an end. The world is more dangerous today than it was when Joe Biden assumed the Presidency.
Well said, Mr Johnson. However, I think the Chinese are much smarter than Washington’s dictators and MSM. They are preparing. They will respond. And like Russia in the Ukraine, they will take the time to do it properly and win.
As usual, Larry gets it exactly right. A clown show indeed.
Joe Biden as Crazy Joe Davola in Pagliacci to be exact.
Seinfeld’s politics aside, how can a glove fit better?
Crazy Joe suffers from mental problems. Attacked Kramer, blames Jerry for misfortunes, dated and stalked Elaine, going as far as taking photographs of her around town and even in her apartment with a telescopic lens. Depressed that Elaine rejected him, he dressed up as the clown from the opera Pagliacci and beats up several street toughs who antagonize him. He likes to leave his door open to “encourage intruders”. Attacked Jerry at the filming of the Jerry Pilot and was never heard from again.
3 superpowers :
Russia 💪
China 💪
Usa 🤡
Exactly. The Chinese are preparing. They will respond – in their own time, in circumstances of their own choosing and likely in concert with Russian actions in the Western hemisphere.
These ‘4 star generals’ sound like they’re cut from the same cloth as the ones that were pressing JFK to launch a sea invasion on Cuba in ’62, either not knowing or not caring that on-the-ground Soviets had tactical nukes and operational freedom to use them to sink any invading fleet.
How many times are we going to skirt Armageddon in our lifetimes? Seems like the odds keep rallying against it.
If push comes to shove with China, this will end up being their m.o. too, but here’s what Putin recently commented:
An old proverb, that neatly rhymes in Russian:
“When you live with wolves, you have to howl like a wolf”
And here’s been the US and its NATO pack official stance, in a nutshell: “When you live with a wolf, you have to howl like a wolf”
So parse it any way you like, this is clearly now a fight between alpha wolves and will be conducted and end in traditional alpha wolf manner, one way or another.
China is certainly not going to be bullied. Furthermore, I would hope that somewhere within the bowels of the American government are influential officials who are at least passingly familiar with the China-Russia double helix. My hope is likely to be dashed, of course.
Seems like a forlorn hope that there are officials in the admin with any kind of common sense and survival instincts, after decades of winnowing out of the ones that might have had them. To be replaced by credentialed sycophants/careerists, now including woke cross-dressers that so honor the uniform. Passingly familiar with the Narrative version of everything, eager to demonstrate their loyalty to the New Breed, primed to follow the most idiotic and suicidal (for the US) orders.
Bad drives out good, in the double-down-stupid culture. End of empire phenomena fully in action.
You need to pick one Larry. Either this was a dangerous clown show:
“Of course the incompetents that surround the equally feckless Biden turned the incident into a dangerous clown show.”
Or it was:
“Got that? Not hostile. :
You can’t have it both ways. Yep we get it, Biden’s a simpleton as are all people who work or have worked for the state. But the bigger simpletons are the ones who keep voting, expecting a different result.
The balloon was not a hostile threat. The clown show is the Biden response. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
LMAO!
Me, three.
In an earlier time such a post would have been regarded as unworthy of a response – purely dissembling, not confusion.
At least we aren’t talking about all those classified documents kept for years in the various Biden homes and offices where they could be viewed at will by interested parties. Barack of course knew nothing, neither did Hunter – whose laptop contents are not of interest to anyone either.
Granted, the US reported it as a non-hostile object early on, but there remain many speedbumps in this entire affair, such as:
If the balloon was in fact gathering war-related data, then it could have been declared a hostile threat. Can we assume that our monitoring as it approached Alaska and beyond that such data could have been intercepted and intent proven? Can we assume that any balloon data collected was transmitted real time to Chinese satellites? If so, intercepted or not, would it not be critical to shoot it down well before it reached the Atlantic? And if the hunt now underway to salvage the module is successful, if it in fact was a meteorological module (and is there an overlap to sensitive data?), would we divulge that or would we go so far as to dummy up another conclusion a la Powell’s anthrax vial?
Whatever the actual facts, vs political facts, are and if those facts are ever truly known by the US, we the public will never know them, will we?
the fiction is that China is plotting a future attack on the United States. Please provide me a list of the countries China has invaded militarily during the last 50 years. Then do a list for the US. I count two for China–Vietnam and Tibet. The US? Dozens. The balloon threat story is bullshit.
Wasn’t Tibet already a part of China 50 years ago? China believes that incorporating Tibet into their nation saved the Tibet people from a repressive regime. By 1973, it was definitely an integral part of China. I know that the Cia-sponsored Dalai Lama, especially his brother, tried to convince the world otherwise and had pretty good success with “human rights” saviors like Human Rights Watch and others. But weren’t those groups mostly responding to US interests?
Watching Biden’s state of the union address can be highly entertaining if you can just imagine him, at any moment, lifting his gaze up from the teleprompter and declaring, BINGO!! I have a BINGO!!
Yeah, exactly. I think they just want to distract people’s attention regarding the classified document found in Biden’s garage.
It seems incomprehensible that the Biden administration would not have been in constant communication with their Chinese counterparts the second either one of them noticed the balloon floating south over the mainland of the U.S.
THIS is what the American people should be concerned about: That communication between the countries regarding an errant weather balloon was not treated at the highest of diplomatic levels.
But shoot that sucker down!!!!
And keep sending us our penicillin and other antibiotics and Tylenol and other necessary fever reducers and tons of other necessary medications….or else!
Ha!
What will the Biden administration do for an encore?
Afraid to know.
“That communication between the countries regarding an errant weather balloon was not treated at the highest of diplomatic levels.”
And it surely could have been dealt with politely:
“Dear Ambassador, I understand that one of your balloons might have taken an errant course. Would you like to keep us up-to-date about that? Meanwhile, we are happy to share with you our own information. I take it that it’s just a weather balloon.”
There’s no one to talk too in the combined West. Best stated by Lavrov, the West is “not agreement capable”
There’s not one statesman in the entire combined West is the final conclusion of the Eastern superpowers.
There’s only rule by which the Western Empire has: it’s our way or the Highway because we control the pedrodollar.
Obviously only the petro dollar. The petrol is controlled by those who the US has pissed off, soon the petro will be dropped it will be only be dollar Or if US chooses LBQTI+ dollar
Unfortunately we are reduced to Macron being the calmest head in West.
He has kept France largely out of things as much as he can. His attempt to initiate diplomacy all failed.
Imagine someone as gay as Macron being the best leadership the west has. Sums up the sad state of affairs for clown world.
It would have been as easy as saying, “We noticed your wayward research balloon and its large equipment package heading in a direction you might not have planned. We’re concerned people might get hurt if it fails and falls to earth over a populated area. Would you have any objection if we bring it down over a remote area?”
Leave it to the Chinese to decide if they want to save face.
I submit there are no communication between parties.
Lavrov has best described the entire Western conglomeration as “not agreement capable”.
They have come to a conclusion in which I agree. There are no men with true Sino-Russian understanding who are capable of serious dialogue. We have emptied the reserve of true statesmen in the West.
We are a child nation compared to ancient civilizations in the world.
A spoiled child nation loudly insisting, demanding and threatening others with weapons of mass destruction.
They get it and 3/4 of the world is watching and waiting for BRICS+ to signal the completion of a multipolar alternative.
https://thecradle.co/article-view/4857/Putin%20and%20Xi%20plot%20their%20SWIFT%20escape
https://thesaker.is/the-
big-stiff-russia-iran-dump-the-dollar-and-bust-us-sanctions/
Exactly. Larry’s suggestion to demand answers through Blinken and Austin doesn’t seem very diplomatic or respectful. But he was probably disgusted by the lack of basic communication between two great powers.
Piss the Chinese off enough and they may officially start shipping fentanyl labelled as Tylenol. 😉
This will just further cement China’s financial and other support of Russia – if that even possible by now.
The more Russia can weaken NATO/US the more time China gets to prepare for a potential showdown.
The world is watching in total awe of the US State Department behaviour – what will they think of next ?
The world is not in awe. The world is sick if this whole shit show and just wants Normal life post covid and an economy that works.
The EU is beyond stupid. They should have courted Russia to join EU or EEA in some form. It would have been far more effective way to benefit from Russia and would have had the effect of isolating China as a major power in Asia at odds with it’s old enemy India.
People also forget India and Russia have a mutual defence pact.
And that China and Pakistan have longstanding close relations and Pakistan will always pick China over the US.
So instead of influencing geopolitical events the Biden admin has done the worst thing possible. Bought all 6 of the Eurasian nuclear and military powers together.
Russia, China, India, North Korea, Pakistan, Iran.
Versus
US, downgraded UK, piddly EU, quivering Australia and terrified Canada.
Yeah think Turkey is sitting this one out. South Africa seriously considered sending Russia troops at outset of war now doing joint exercises. Add half of South America and half of Africa as back up.
How’s that going to work out?
Think Biden just think.
biden is incapable of thinking…
he knows his ice cream though
That Minnihan statement that was prepared and delivered to NBC News, I bet statement was part of CIA psyops game, deliberately using NBC to amplify completely threatening information toward China. US is provoking purposefully, part of the Taiwan Plan
Agree
No wonder the USA and the Collective West are not in the book of Revelation.
They are. See especially chapters 17 and 18 on the whore of Babylon and her going down to destruction.
From another “Flying Dutchman”, you nailed it! Touche’. Bravo!
They are. We lost track of who we are in prophecy. The House of Israel is all Israel minus the House of Judah. https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=only+Judah+followed&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1 and https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/15/24/s_944024
https://redshoe.com/the-prophecies/is-the-us-in-end-times-bible-prophecy.html
also, https://redshoe.com/the-prophecies/revelation-17-big-brother.html
And the remnant, Rev. 7:1-8
i believe the usa is but it is not specifically stated as such.There is allot more to prophesy than just the book of revelation, if yu look up ezekiel 38 and 39 it definitely looks like a large nation with vast resources and know vast undefended borders which the usa is – i think this has been going on in slow motion since the jfk assasination. also in george washingtons vision which can be easily found online.
Dr. Strangelove will be able to explain the balloon gap. The Chinese said it was a weather balloon and it wasn’t military. If the rescuers of that great gasbag have found anything sinister in Dorothy’s trip back home, they aren’t saying . Next we will have Jesse Marcel say it was a saucer and it’s Roswell all over again.
Looks like a flying dumpling to me.
Like those large flying hot dog ads.
Could be some off course advertising.
The fearless Depends undergarments Warmaster?
Maybe in pre-school or kindergarten.
Surely no one over 15 would be that dull, oh wait.
One commentator said CCP just teabagged us hard and it was a gut busting laugh session.
Got Hypersonic Glide Vehicle?
I’d guess Alaskans are a bit miffed that they aren’t part of the “mainland.” That’s another odd bit of this whole episode – downplay by treating Alaska as if they aren’t really part of the US. They are part of the “mainland,” just not part of the “lower 48.” Biden could’ve popped it when it entered Alaskan territorial waters, but did nothing. If he thought it wasn’t a big deal, that would’ve been the time to say so.
It’s a headscratcher however you cut it. The unceremonious reduction of Alaska’s status is consistent for dementia Joe, though. Apparently being part of the Continental US doesn’t qualify as being part of the “mainland.” Maybe he’s getting ready to lose it back to Russia so is downplaying its role in the US.
Why would China contact the US State Kindergarten where there is yet to be found one real diplomat with a clue.
China will never invade Taiwan. The Taiwanese consider themselves Chinese through and through. China’s investments in Taiwanese Hi-Tech firms are over 60%. The pro China KMT party is polled at 46% and is slated to take power and elect a new Taiwanese president in 2024. Once in power, it will rule for a long time with the help of China. These are all facts.
Here is one more fact: Taiwan produces over 60% of all advanced chips in the World. Now, could it be that this Biden lie about China invading Taiwan, is nothing more than justification for the US to take over Taiwan under the narrative of defending it from China, while the true purpose of the next US potentially radio active shit show is to control 60% of all advanced chips. Those who control advanced chips are those who prosper in the 21 century. Something to keep in mind when hearing all the BS about protecting democracy and freedom for Taiwan.
Both the U.S. and the EU formally recognise Taiwan as a province of mainland China in much the same way the rest of us recognise Hawaii as U.S. territory. Indeed mainland China represents Taiwan at the U.N.
If China were to declare that they would arm the Hawaiian islanders in their fight for freedom from the U.S. then ………………..
Greetings John… the US-EU Rules (for you not for US) based system will attempt to achieve what it wants regardless of the Rules.
As for your phrase “If China were to declare that they would arm the Hawaiian islanders in their fight for freedom from the U.S.”, I would point out to you that China has previously indicated that it would assist the Hawaiin Independence Movement,
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/14606/Hawaiian-Independence-Movement-Attracts-Chinese-Interest
It is the Globalists that move the Chess pieces through the politicians they own. This is why filtering political events on the ground back up sheds light on what seems to be a broken system. Yes, what appears to us ants as a failure of the system to care for us, is actually a feature of the system the Bankers have imposed on the ants.
Thank you for your response K. Talaat
The reason Taiwan is not recognized by the UN is not for lack of trying but mainland China’s seat on the UN security Counsel. They have vetoed every attempt by Taiwan to gain recognition. Yes, the CCP is buying various Taiwanese industries and politicians and will eventually install their own puppet government there but you misread the sentiment for reunification by the people of Taiwan. The islanders, who of course consider themselves to be Chinese, also have the somewhat delusional belief that their government is the legitimate ruler of China and reunification means their leaders will replace the CCP. I have never met anyone from Taiwan who favors communist control of their country. You are correct that TSC manufactures the majority of the world’s microprocessors and over 80% of the small chips that power most modern machinery and the IOT. The United States has been committing slow suicide for decades and has forced most of her manufacturing base overseas. Recognizing that if the CCP gains a monopoly on the manufacture of the worlds microprocessor supply and the corresponding leverage they could use to blackmail the world, the morons in the United States government are posturing to prevent China’s takeover. At this point point it is just closing the barn doors after cows are gone.
Thank you Interocitor for your response. I think Taiwan will end as something similar to Hong Kong. China’s strategy appears centered on preventing Taiwan from becoming a US aircraft carrier.
Agree and it’s because of something called Han.
Criminal Lunatic Biden and his Admin from hell won’t be happy until they destroy the World!
Larry, the wheels are coming off this Administration.
The question is if certain factions within Pentagon is hitting back at the crazies in the basement? First the Biden papers, then Rand and other reports hinting at exit strategies, now Mr. Hersh’s source/s.
Surely this act of international terrorism against a NATO ally is grounds for an impeachment?
Love to hear your views.
At this point of America is planning to take on China the first thing that will happen is the memory holing of the nazi regime in Ukraine, and the sacrifice of Ukranazistan.
The world has arrived at a world historical moment. Global power, having escaped through the cracks and fissures in the Western Alliance is coalescing around one or more alternative camps. What happens over the rest of this decade will set the stage for the next century, or more.
As its capacity to rule dissipates, Washington has become a staggering, noisy drunk insisting that it’s got the keys and and the wits to drive the world through the next century. Even some of its nominal allies are beginning to hope it can’t get out of the parking lot lest it kill everybody.
US diplomacy skills are at a frighteningly low point. How long can we get away with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZEYYF6PpEg
But is there still an issue about which US Administrations do not lie first to Americans and then to the world? Starting with always doing the opposite of what they promise in election campaigns to win elections. Which are still real, contrary to what many Americans already believe, because there are still two parties! Even if for Americans and the world it doesn’t make any difference who wins! A clown show is a good definition! Of course, the balloon never posed any danger to the US and was used like anything else for another public relations show. Political propaganda. And once again the President who takes more time to leave the stage than reading the speeches that someone prepared he to read on stage fucked all. Like he did with the Nord Stream sabotage. Without timing, he manages to boycott any sabotage no matter how well prepared and the only solution was to put a sticker in his mouth! On the other hand, the whole world also sees and understands the same as we do! And the General’s memo didn’t leak either. Or rather for some reason leaked. But there is still no PhD for us to understand how works the brains of the geniuses in power today in the US….
Americans are free to change their ruling regime but sequentially fail so to do
Name one country in the World were its people “are free to change their ruling regime”?
Maybe the administration could have behaved how most of us behave when a neighbor’s child kicks a football into our garden:
Hey, I found your ball. I have just kicked it back. No problem but please be more careful in future. It might hurt the flowers.
Would that type of call to China have hurt?
I think the western lunatics are making few serious mistakes right now:
1) The think they can escalate their war with Russia to this extent, steal assets and then walk away saying “Peace! We were just kidding!” any time they stop liking how it goes for them and face no consequences.
2) After that they make a big mess, start some sort of conflict with China and not have Russia joining in some capacity to inflict some great damage to whoever is fighting China
3) They can throw Ukraine under the bus, screw up German economy and energy supplies, yet everyone in Asia Pacific will be happy to pull Zelensky on China
Quite incredible, how one can think that?
Well it is a pity they missed Biden & his incompetent trio (Nully, Blinki and Sully, while they were at it, don’t you think?
It is interesting to see just how the two nations handle a “sauntering gas bag”.
One shoots it down.
The other allows her to visit Taiwan!
LOL
Excellent article. Thank you.
Douglas MacGregor seems to have a very similar take on this and noted that the Chinese have 300 satellites (100 with a military role) so what on earth do they need a balloon for? Most sane people seem to take this view.
The Chinese will not be as benevolent over the US destroying their property as Germany seems to be; at least Germany is at the moment. That may not last for ever though.
Biden administration is the greatest threat to world peace right now.
As an engineer who has served in electronic warfare unit, I have to disagree with Douglas Macgregor on that. Balloons can do electronic surveillance that satellites can’t (because they are too far). I’m not saying that Chinese actually did anything along those lines, but that there is a valid case for use of balloons.
Chinese complaining about shooting is just for the show. Any country can/will shoot down foreing objects that enter it’s airspace without approval. Soviet Union have shot down numerous US balloons back in the day (and an occasional plane).
You mean physics is real. Yes, flying a large payload balloon with state-of-the-art surveillance equipment 12 miles up is much more valuable than a satellite with a limited payload a few hundred miles up. Thank you for providing some sanity on this topic that Larry seems to be totally ignorant of and downplays the significant intelligence-gathering activity that this balloon incident was. The balloon itself was not a hostile threat (a red herring) but the information collected can be used for future threats.
For what it’s worth, Wikipedia says airspace extends to flight level 600 – approx 60,000. It’s at least undefined under international if, the Balloon was even in US airspace under that definition.
The payload of the balloon appeared to be mostly solar panels. There appeared to be enough area there to generate 4000 watts pretty reliably. It’s unknown what electronics that would need 4000 watts to power. I understand that a synthetic aperature radar can be had that runs on 100 watts.
Balloons mostly manuever by changing altitude. One of the ways they do that is by extracting water from the atmosphere to add weight (go down) and then dump the water to go up. Perhaps the power is mainly needed for that operation ?
Balloon appears to have spend a lot of time over Montana so perhaps it was taking pictures. perhaps it was listening to signals traffic, but if the DOD does any of that in the clear, then they are a lost cause anyway.
DOD says they were jamming the balloon so that it was cut off from communications. I dont know enough to say if that sound true or false. But if true, then it’s certainly true that whatever control the Chinese had over the balloon was lost, backing up their claims of Force Majeure.
I don’t know if it was a spy balloon. lets assume it was. Dont you think Ukraine has shown pretty clearly that all Militaries operate now completely out in the open. One hopes the US military understands that. There are no secrets that are not under a roof. That being the case does the other side watching you really rise to the level of a threat ?
The entire meaning of the balloon is diplomatic. The US is now shown to be completely incapable of diplomacy. It’s policy making apparatus is captive to ideology and to the media demand for drama. It’s first instinct and only tool is threats and force. The whole world is watching and keeping their thoughts to themselves.
Wikipedia page on airspace says:
“There is no international agreement on the vertical extent of sovereign airspace, with suggestions ranging from about 30 km (19 mi)—the extent of the highest aircraft and balloons—to about 160 km (100 mi)—approximately the lowest extent of short-term stable orbits.”
If some definition allows an aircraft (which balloon is) to fly above airspace, then the definition is wrong. I am not an expert on US law, but I do know that they once tried to legally redefine a value of mathematical constant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
In general, I agree with what you wrote, so I will just add some semi-random points.
4KW is a lot of power, as far as electronics is concerned, and a dehumidifier could use large chunk of it (those for home use are hundreds of Watts).
Jamming the balloon is plausible (and similar to how Iranians downed a US drone some time ago). If Chinese lost control of it, than we can’t know what was the intented path (maybe it wanted to turn left at Albuquerque).
Militaries do operate in the open now more than ever, but there are still things to hide, especially in the electronic warfare domain. This balloon could, theoretically, scan US air defense radars, or military communications, or something else.
Any unknown object in your sovereign airspace is considered a threat by default (a thing that got some passenger planes shot down).
We should also keep in mind that Chinese knew that the balloon could/would be shot down, and fall in the hands of “enemy”. I doubt that they would put anything special on it.
In the lack of any reliable info, all we can do is speculate. This whole mess looks like modern day remake of Roswell incident. We just have to wait for more info, or blame aliens.
Fux Noise was suggesting the Chinese had pumped the the Balloon with a bio weapon and, sent from Wuhan.
That (Fox report) reads as red meat for rubes of lower educational levels and political sophistication (USA USA! types). Whereas the NYT essentially posits the same content (China bad!) in much more sophisticated and extensive terms for the mis-educated rubes with college degrees. Just look at NYT coverage of the balloon aftermath. Also note the seemingly total blackout in “mainstream” media of the Hersh article. Also note the huge media consensus on “Biden having a great run since the State of the Union” extending even to Fox. This should be taken as the greatest coverup of US war machinations and suppressing discussion of likely consequences since Iraq–greater still, really. Given that the Repubs have no real counter to general dissolution and that generalized war may well be either upon us or else just over the horizon by 2024, in those circumstances expect a big “don’t change horses in the middle of the stream” propaganda effort to re-elect coming on all sides.
Repugnicants and Democraps are two puppets belonging to one pupetter, no difference. Read the Powell Memo.
Right?! Dems vs Repubs, Libtards vs Nazis, Right vs Left…
It’s all so tiresome.
We’re in the Good vs Evil stage deep within the Age of Decadence with the GOP and DNC uniparty at the helm.
Did the PLA give Milley and Austin a heads up?
What about the claim of balloons going over under Trump and they (generals) said nothing?
Is it really surprising that Long Marchers out to burn it all down just as Karl Marx said in his poems are playing with nuclear fire?
CCP has 300 satellites in orbit and spying stations in Mexico City and the Caribbean, maybe they needed some fresh recon after Trump ended the Open Skies Treaty.
Balloon flyovers were routine during the Cold War – a nothing burger
Assuming all we hear about Biden’s betrothal to China is true, I am inclined to think that the Chinese were OK with the baloon getting shot down to give Biden a boost at home. See, I still think that we are outnumbered by the kool-aid drinking crowd. Let me repeat that, we are outnumbered by the kool-aid drinking crowd and no one is coming to save us. The chinese got all their data off that baloon before it was shot down. Had we shot it down over Alaska…
Contrary to what the General says, what defines the window of time in Taiwan and the conflict with China is not the General’s feeling, but the elections in Taiwan in 2024. That the local elections in November with the biggest defeat of the US proxy only confirmed what was already known. That the KMT favorable to integration in the Continent will win the next Presidential elections. Which is to say, the majority of Taiwan’s population is hostile to US behavior and conflict with the Mainland! Where millions of Taiwanese already work every day. In the biggest economic partner of the island! Like the US and the proxy DPP don’t seem to understand!
Breaking news! Scene from inside the White House of Biden reacting to balloon courtesy of midjourney: https://i.imgur.com/6WQHblg.png
Feel free to use it
It is all so deja-vu. Hess flew to Scotland in May 1941 with a secret message for London which he hoped Duke of Hamilton would help him deliver.
Hitler could not finish with Great Britain before his timetable for Operation Barbarossa was put into operation – and Hess and his message disappeared into that black hole Britain has for untimely revelations under 100 Year Rule.
How similar to USA to being able to crush Russian Federation before moving on to China before timetable expires…………..Washington really is the New Berlin
I don’t understand the US administration. China has weapons of mass distruction. Why not using the power point presentation of Mr. Powell. Replace the word Irak with China, and here we go.
The Biden Administration lies about everything, why should a balloon be different?
Biden +lying = tautology.
If this is how the Leaders of the Free World handle a balloon how are they going to handle that situation in Eastern Europe?
Hint: duck!
“When you’re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in America, you get a front row seat.”
George Carlin
And if you were born in Germany, you’re sitting right behind it.
Why would China contact the US State Kindergarten where there is yet to be found one real diplomat with a clue.
China will never invade Taiwan. The Taiwanese consider themselves Chinese through and through. China’s investments in Taiwanese Hi-Tech firms are over 60%. The pro China KMT party is polled at 46% and is slated to take power and elect a new Taiwanese president in 2024. Once in power, it will rule for a long time with the help of China. These are all facts.
Here is one more fact: Taiwan produces over 60% of all advanced chips in the World. Now, could it be that this Biden lie about China invading Taiwan, is nothing more than justification for the US to take over Taiwan under the narrative of defending it from China, while the true purpose of the next US potentially radio active shit show is to control 60% of all advanced chips. Those who control advanced chips are those who prosper in the 21 century. Something to keep in mind when hearing all the BS about protecting democracy and freedom for Taiwan.
Even Pagliacci is laughing now!
Fact Check-HBAL617 balloon tracked online is from U.S. company Aerostar, not China https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-china-spy-balloon-idUSL1N34J1WQ
Hmmm…I suspected that very early on.
we make China’s weather balloons, they make our fireworks; the rest is hysterical propaganda
what’s next, Freedom Firecrackers?
Joe Biden just got inspired by the 6 year old boy who shot his 5 year old sister
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-6-fatally-shoots-sister-parents-arrested-muncie-indiana/
The authorities arrested the parents. China needs to figure out whom to hold responsible. The people who elected Joe Biden? They are themselves clueless about why they elected him.
A time may come when the world outside the combined West realizes that the “White Man’s Burden” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man%27s_Burden) has become too heavy for poor old Uncle Sam to carry and it is time he is persuaded into an “assisted living” arrangement for the folks who cannot manage their own affairs.
Talking of balloons, I think a Russian one is up this morning.
If I was Putin, I would send one across the Alaskan straights for giggles. Can you imagine the hysteria? That would be like the devil showing up in the fairy patch.
“A four-star Air Force general sent a memo on Friday to the officers he commands that predicts the U.S. will be at war with China in two years and tells them to get ready to prep by firing “a clip” at a target, and ‘aim for the head.’ ”
I take that to mean we will either launch a nuclear decapitation strike, or make an attempt to take out the Three Gorges Dam with conventional missiles – which would be a legal act, once we make it clear to our adversary that were are in undeclared shooting war?
Can’t think what else the head would represent over there in China. I mean we could attempt to eliminate Xi, but even if successful, there are 90 million potential replacements in the Communist Party, so we would hardly have assurances that such an assassination would lead to a regime change more to our liking.
Or we could land a small detachment of Marines and have them storm the palace in Beijing. That used to work back in day.
It won’t be easy though, the enemy’s Home Guard looks pretty tough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWLIomt-U8
Nice unis.
What a fine body of transgender men.
Palamedes; i think yu are right on with that comment. The satanbowl halftime show this sunday will probably be another example of how far we have fallen. I imagine the russian leadership must both laugh and be dismayed at what the average american sees as entertaiment these days . I could be wrong but to me it looks like russia is still ruled by testosterone and the usa has become ruled by estrogen.
the main halftime entertainment is not what we think it is. i think mre is right.
Rihanna is a Man
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1QL1Yxy0izey/
https://seed200.bitchute.com/4AIhT8SpAVoh/1QL1Yxy0izey.mp4
an example from 12 yrs ago – i think spears is the same as rihanna
Rihanna & Britney Spears – S&M (Live Billboard Music Awards 2011).mp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW7wLG_CcPc
Arian Foster says the nfl is scripted; sounds like wwe wrestling
https://t.me/Dr_BetsyChannel/12032
https://www.sportszion.com/ex-nfl-rb-arian-foster-backs-up-leagues-biggest-conspiracy-theory-nfl-is-rigged-with-outlandish-claim/
had read on the NFL tickets it says for entertainment purposes only so any liability for fixing cannot be held up in court.
https://www.thefixisin.net/the-2022-nfl-season
In the Chiefs-Bengals game, however, the refs had to do a lot of heavy lifting to get Mahomes into his third Super Bowl
regards,
ralph
Great, a “crazy” has joined the adult discussion……
Define “crazy” define “adult” it has lost it’s meaning since 2020. Don’t throw stones you might get hit. I wear a helmet.
To quote The Great Bard,”Hell hath no fury…”
Never underestimate women in combat. For a reference check out that part in Antony Beevor’s “Stalingrad” where a German officer recalls encountering an all-female battalion during suppression of Soviet counter-offensive in Kharkov region, May 1942.
I will say that seeing all those hot chicks in uniform is exciting!
A Soviet all-female artillery battalion played an important, perhaps even critical role, in the initial defense of Stalingrad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziH9fleTWQM
Soviet female snipers were also credited with 12,000 kills during WWII. Even if these numbers are inflated by half, that is still a lot of girl on boy killing.
I did some research and admittedly, I was a little disappointed to find out the Chinese women in the vid above do not train on their SMGs. They are strictly, parade ground units.
Which is a good thing I suppose, if we are to go to war with China. Image our Marines having to face off against say, 50 million women spraying automatic weapon’s fire. No matter how erratic, it would still be a helluva thing to overcome.
US fighting China … total baloney in my opinion. US will never “fight” China. They may try to push some poor proxy on them, but they will never face China directly. That is pure desperation to make US look strong, because they are very, very weak and the whole world can see this. Shooting the balloon over the ocean was totally unnecessary, as it has already passed the US and was not a threat in the beginning. That indeed was a very stupid move by the US, very moronic.
Russia and China alone can destroy the US economically and financially. US is making money now, because they blew up NS and NS2 and now sell their overpriced LNG to Europe. But Europe is already seeing what is going on and some countries are (of course) whining about the business tactics of their “ally” US. They forget that US has no allies, all they have are vassals. Europe got thrown under the bus by the US as they are trying to escape their own fate of financial and economic downfall, now accelerating from the conflict they started, that did not go like expected.
Over many decades the US has made many, many enemies by bullying countries and even destroying some in the name of their own “global” interests. Now that new powers have emerged, the US will have to accept it’s lost hegemony and behave or face real consequences for their wrong-doing, like they do now. This was foreseeable and still the US missed their chance to make up for all the destruction they did to others. Their vassals may have loyal governments to the US, but the citizens of those vassal countries don’t have the same mindset, especially when they may face changes to their cushy life like they do now. This was just the beginning.
Mr.Biden’s “Slow news day”
Larry,
Maybe it was actually a UFO and the U.S. Govt. didn’t want to tell people. By ufo I mean, “Unsightly F**king Object”, hence they threw it in the garbage, (sea).
Both the U.S. and the EU formally recognise Taiwan as a province of mainland China in much the same way the rest of us recognise Hawaii as U.S. territory. Indeed mainland China represents Taiwan at the U.N.
If China were to declare that they would arm the Hawaiian islanders in their fight for freedom from the U.S. then ………………..
Perfect timing for the Chinese to announce how much they paid Biden in sponsorship each year since he became Obummer´s VP and declare that just like Adidas dumping Ye , Biden hasnt repaid their 10% commission investment as expected.
Monkeywerks latest analysis states the F22 has a ceiling of 52,000 feet and claimed to use a heat seeking AIM missile to shoot down the balloon which was flying at 58,000 feet way above any F22 with no significant heat signature so clearly the USAF had a major challenge bring this balloon down but the navy with shells or missiles may have been upto the task
They had to use a special optical guided variant of the AIM-9 sidewinder
What I find so disappointing about all this is what is lost. In the 60’s USA was reaching for the moon a project to encompass everyone not just Americans. Instead we have war more money for weapons bellicose language instead of diplomacy
It used to be the business of America was business. Now it’s war. War on the American people and war on the world.
Today war IS the business! I mean, what else do they produce at home?
Has apathy taken control of the US? Are its citizens so concerned about things like jobs, food, education of children, social media and simple daily problems that they are in ignorance of elections being stolen? Do they care? They know something is bad wrong, probably. I know that most are in ignorance of how bad is US leadership and how far gone the country is in its ability to right the ship. Keep the country in chaos while the elite rejoice in their ability to subjugate the US population and load illegal immigrants on top of them. Now, if only all the other countries in the world would bow down and kiss the US’ feet, especially Russia, China and Iran. The exhibitionist vainly thinks how he has onlookers in rapt attention, but does not realize the utter contempt they have for him. The US has run out of friends and out of any respect.
USA always had the best brainwashing machine. Now it’s spinning like Iranian nuclear centrifuges infected with Stuxnet, and catastrophic failure is bound to happen, but not yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_jLpd-_gdY
“Sauntering gas bag”
lol!
sounds like quite a few characters in DC (-:
What I find so disappointing about all this is what is lost. In the 60’s USA was reaching for the moon a project to encompass everyone not just Americans. Instead we have war more money for weapons bellicose language instead of d
This US administration is like an autistic kid : in constant fear, unable to communicate by other mean than blowing things up and the others are to blame for what it breaks.
If the Chinese really wanna hurt the US then they won’t send some balloon , they will campaign for Biden 2024. Chinese also know bits about revolutions , the good part of this one is you don’t even need to send some guns.
One sauntering gas bag orders the take down of another sauntering gas bag.
Our leadership class are feckless morons. Biden and Harris are perfect figureheads for this evil clown show. And propaganda pumped out through the mainstream media can get the mindless minion to pull the lever for any boob on the ballot. The election of John Fetterman proved that.
Hopefully the impending financial depression will knock some sense into the American voter. But I doubt it. Last time around it gave us the evil FDR. He made the depression great and worked hard to start WW2. But somehow, most Americans think this evil creep was a great leader.
“…..the bankrupt “brain” trust that surrounds Joe Biden..”
You are far too polite 🙂
Joe Biden instinctively lies, even when it’s not necessary. A better explanation is that they waited until it was over water to in order to maximize how much we can salvage. The Republicans who are now howling, ‘IT HAD U.S. PARTS ! ! !’. They would have shot it down in the icy waters of the Pacific in order to protect China’s secrets.
[My last sentence is intentionally inflammatory to show how annoying it is when everything becomes an accusation of treason]
I thought it was more like waiting until it’s over water to MINIMIZE how much we can salvage, so that we can make up any story we want and who’s to prove otherwise?
This is creaking me-up(along with the balloon). This should have been a non-story. Makes me want to go back and read Edgar Allen Poe’s The Great Balloon Hoax. The country’s going Looney Tunes over balloons. Where this country is headed? As Porky Pig would say: that- that,that,that,that-That’s all folks!!!!!
China is the opposite of Russia. Sanction Russia? You mean the guy you get 40% of your food, fuel, and rare minerals from? Yeah. Good luck with that. China is the exact opposite. They import 90% of their needed fuel and resources. Over vulnerable sea lanes. And they have to export to the West to pay for the resources. And of course, the West needs their cheap products to keep the Ponzi economy going. That is why the US and China are in their odd little relationship with each other. They are a co-dependent dysfunctional marriage where they each hate each other, but the divorce will be fatal. So, China tries to get roads and harbors built everywhere but here. The US starts friend shoring and desperately trying to get chip fab factories built in the US. The wild card that China does not understand (just like Putin didn’t) is the pure bloodlust of the Washington establishment. They want war. They live on it. They will have it. And of course, China is selling Russia down the river. Everyday Russia fights, it weakens the West. Everyday Russia fights by itself, China’s armory gets bigger. As to whether it goes hot? Fuck me. Good question. Timing wise, if the US is going to do it. The sooner the better. For China? Time is on their side. Unless the US goes batshit and goes INTO Ukraine. They would probably have to move then. The allure of a split theater war would be too great.
> The wild card that China does not understand (just like Putin didn’t) is the pure bloodlust of the Washington establishment.
I don’t see how they could not understand it. I mean they have internet don’t they? They talk to each other don’t they? Remember, the CPC are committed Marxist-Leninists, and everything the West is doing fits Lenin’s definition of Imperialism.
So far as profits remain in command, the West is compelled to go down this road.
A war with China will be a war with a nation that has the backing of Russia. Russia will go well out of its way to supply raw materials and manufacturing processes for China should the U.S. turn stupid.
What I expect will really happen is a payback of sorts ala ‘Nord Stream’. That being underwater nuclear detonations off the coast of a few major U.S. cities. Silent but deadly torpedo’s, AI driven, could slowly work their way to an area and detonate. No one could say who sent the weapon…much the same as the Nord Stream destruction. Despite what is in the press about the Nord Stream destruction, there is no true proof unless there is a confession. I would not hold my breath for that confession to happen.
This would be a level of destruction on three or four coastal cities that would shock the psyche of Americans and I expect, the government. Not knowing who to strike back at will generate, hopefully, a long enough pause for Americans to demand no nuclear retaliation. Seeing what happened to four cities would be enough for Americans to realise they do not want the rest of inner America to look the same.
Once Americans feel the pain of that level of destruction, sans most of the nuclear radiation poisoning, the world would likely see a new attitude towards peace and non-involvement coming from we war mongering Americans.
I believe this is how Russia and China will send a message to America that the uni-polar world of globalist have finally come to an end.
It would get people’s attention if a cyber attack knocked out the broadcast of Super Bowl to a significant audience in the USA.
Now that would be an interesting press conference Monday.
alternative views from within a house of mirrors (& now video feeds) … increasingly difficult to generate
Thanks for lighting a single candle Larry
we need >>14 million “Points of Light” if we’re to recreate an Informed Electorate
For some strange reason, all the intelectual and media elites decided that the most important political category in existence and our most prominent value as a democracy is unquestionable and unwavering support for sexual degeneracy and the apparent inability of American women to use civilized contraception methods like women are able to do even in some of the most poor countries in the world.
On the verge of a terrible recession and the threat of a complete collapse of what was once the most powerful country in the earth, millions of completely oblivious people decided that the unrestricted right to having abortions somehow is more important than avoiding a complete economic collapse caused by irrational energy policies, or avoiding the escalation of a conflict that could well end up in a global nuclear war.
This is what is the most stupid thing about all this situation, we are only here because most adult americans are basically spoiled kids that can’t be denied any of their petty vices.
Don’t forget the Biden Administration knew that the Sy Hersh Nordstream 2 story was about to break too. Without the balloon hysteria it would be a bigger story.
Wars always start with Democratic presidents. Traditionally they were seen as the less hawkish branch of the uniparty and their presidents had a tendency to be too aggressive in an attempt to counter this perception with their critics. Biden not only has that traditional Democrat thing going on, he is an moron with dementia who has always resorted to a “look here, pal” sort of mindless bully from the old block mentality when challenged. So, his administration is like a bull in a China shop right now running around trying to give this impression that he is tough and in control.
I really despair. Trump wasn’t exactly smart about foreign affairs, but he had a businessman’s instinctive understanding that all of this money and credibility being spent to make the world a less stable and safe place was bad for business. Wouldn’t those of you in the rest of the world just like to see the U.S. go back to being merely incredibly influential and important because of our size and economy instead of running around trying to put a finger in every pie?
There are so many things I despise about our current leadership but I’m basically a patriot and optimistic to boot. The inherent advantages of the US, or even portions of it, are such that if we could ever free ourselves of this empire frenzy and the grifting class that comes with it, we would explode in productivity and prosperity. Within a 250 mile radius of my home, there is more timber, farmland, oil and gas, and other resources than there are in ninety percent of the countries of the world.
I apologize for what turned into a long spiel. I just get frustrated with the stupidity of it all.
Larry: Just one question to someone in the know. Just where exactly was the balloon shot down. I have read numerous articles(why I don’t know typically I have better things to do). Some say Billings Montana, some say the pacific and some say off of South Carolina. Anybody?
To the readers of my analysis of the earthquake in Turkey:
https://mundanestagebuch.blogspot.com/2023/02/two-catastrophic-moves-10-km-deep-in.html
Shit hhappens, I have to apologize, I mistook local time with universal time, a difference of 3 hours.
Here is the correction: “After 42 Years of Astrology – a Greenhorn Mistake by an Oldtimer”
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2023/02/after-42-years-astrology-greenhorn.html
In the year 2023, incompetent, reckless neoclowns will use a balloon to provoke a competent, sober nuclear super power.
“The world is more dangerous today than it was when Joe Biden assumed the Presidency.”
Joe is the quintessential train wreck…I don’t think he’ll serve a full 4-year term…but if Joe is a “train wreck” Kamala is like a whole squadron of Chinese spy balloons.
Folks we are witnessing the decline of a once great nation…I pray that we as a nation can reverse the decline…it breaks my heart to think about what we’re leaving to our children and grand children.
How many carrier groups are normally out to sea? Because there are five headed out right now.
You can find weekly reports on southfront.org.
https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-carrier-strike-groups-february-7-2023/
https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-carrier-strike-groups-january-31-2023/
https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-carrier-strike-groups-january-24-2023/
https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-carrier-strike-groups-february-8-2022/
https://southfront.org/locations-of-us-carrier-strike-groups-february-1-2022/
An accurate summary from today’s Global Times (semi-official Chinese site):
In “US democracy,” there is a stable structure that consists of hegemony, bullying and domineering. Hegemony is the core goal, bullying is the way of action, and domineering is the behavioral characteristic.
The bigger question is….does it sound credible that this massive balloon Complex was just a civilian weather balloon and I say that’s highly unlikely from the sheer mass of the unit …200 ft high and carried a payload of an airliner and the fact it was obviously maneuvering…a typical weather balloon is 20ft when fully inflated and collects data about 32km high but can hit over 50km in altitude…..so for it to be 18km over highly sensitive asset’s like minuteman silos in Montana and B2 stealth bomber bases in Missouri…it is suspicious. Many electronic devices have backdoors…. Australia is currently pulling security systems at their Government installations that are Chinese manufactured for this reason. Chips in certain restricted areas not connected to outside networks can have data transfer remotely to a receiver…..and then to let the mission be completed before interdiction citing concern for danger to public from debris field is nonsensical to me.
If the balloon was benign, a nothing burger, not a threat, why shoot it down?
Why?
Me thinks they thought it was a threat, but played games that satisfied no one, especially the American public.
What do you do when you feel you are being gaslighted? Me? I respond. Got me banned from Mark Wuack’s substact for 100 years, but I can like whatever I want, funny.
I feel I have been gaslighted on this from all, including Mark and here.
It is what it is. It’s what’s I feel, it’s what it appears to me. If that means I can’t respond here, so be it.
I am not for Russia or Ukraine. Period. I recognize we, the United States, have done things that abused and stole from Russia. Yet, when I feel I am being gaslighted, I take exception. I feel that with this from all!
Oh, an aside, I fully do not think Russia is a savior to the West. Russia is acting in her best interests. At the same time, Ukraine is acting in her best interests.
Yes, nations are female, sorry, for you woke folks who prefer males as females.
Anyway, Russia, aside from pre Stalin history, has had major issues with it’s sovereignty. NATO made sense when it was the USSR, not at all now or after the fall of the USSR in a real, concrete sense or a figurative sense. To trap a major country as Russia is in this is bad juju.
Sadly, it appears to me, like darn near with everything, I have to choose sides and I don’t and will speak out on that.
Ukraine is NOT acting in it’s best interest. It is a sock puppet and is remotely controlled.
It has no control, no agency, no sovereignty.
When I listen to the leaders and diplomats from Russia, China, India, and other countries, they all sound well educated and eminently reasonable.
When I listen to the same people in the United States, they all sound, well, stupid. And that’s putting it mildly.
The ruling class in the U.S. has never been held to account for anything they’ve done. Just in my lifetime, they’ve started wars that have killed, maimed and displaced literally millions of people. They’ve robbed the country blind. They spy on all of us. They inject us with worthless “vaccines”. And they get away with it all because they control the mass media/social media and the legal system.
I see no one in our government who is an actual leader/statesman. I see nothing but what Kurt Vonnegut called “upper crust C-students who know no history or geography”.
An idiot like Victoria Nuland dictating U.S. policy is what we have. Wall Street running the Treasury is what we have. Big Pharma running the FDA/CDC is what we have. A senile POTUS is what we have. An FBI that acts like the Gestapo is what we have. A wholly unaccountable CIA/NSA/[insert secret three-letter agency here] is what we have. A revolving door between government/military and giant corporations is what we have.
All of it in the service of one thing only: To make everyone on the inside fabulously wealthy by stealing everything possible and keeping “we the people” as stupid as possible while we voluntarily provide these creeps all of our personal information and real-time location via the gee-whiz technology they’ve given us (which, according to a friend who worked in a high-level government position, is at least 20 years behind what the government itself possesses).
We are screwed, friends. It’s only a matter of time before we find out how badly we will be screwed. But I know this: The psychopaths running the show only care about themselves. If you, me, and the rest of the world has to starve to death or be nuked out of existence, they won’t lose a wink of sleep in their underground bunker.
reparations reparations PAY them reparations we don’t need no educations.
This is what happens when the president, vice president gagged cackles, sec state and all the people who count in gov, civil service and congress have zero military experience.
Part of the reason for respect during the cold war was that more people in positions of power and influence in the US had seen war.
Now it is as Larry puts it, a ‘clown show’. Biden and Blinken know nothing about fighting in war. What death and mutilation looks like up close. What complete terror feels like and the exhaustion of days on high adrenaline, unable to sleep, praying you become the robot you were trained early on to be so you feel nothing.
So. Experience of war is not significant in this government, public officials or congress.
Yet the play at war like a child would play with a toy, a game of soldiers.
Maybe if the law was the first conscripted are children of politicians a small awakening may happen. What if…
But there are no consequences for their kids. Just cushy jobs and contacts.
So in a way, this war is nothing to do with them. It’s just a game of no consequence.
The problem is, war is not a game for children or imbeciles. Only when it’s at their throats will they understand what they have done.
Violence is unpredictable. So is rage. Keep stirring it up and no one will be able to control the outcome.
The way the MSM report spy balloon as if it was a fact is laughable.
If I was China I would laugh at the US. But I would also reluctantly prepare for war. It is now ofcourse, inevitable.
If this was deliberate. The message from China is simple.
We can get you. We can make you scared. And we don’t fear you. So be careful.
Anyway that message fell on deaf ears.
Yep. Even if not deliberate, the message is there. Worse, it’s with old technology.
Biden is not afraid of balloons, as long as there isn’t a clown attached to it.
This page has some facts, some good observations and a theory of why the balloon crossed North American territory (basically just to test the U.S. administration).
https://www.electropages.com/blog/2023/02/chinese-weather-balloon-not-likely
I don’t care much for the US but I can’t say I blame them for shooting down the balloon.
«mr. johnson- this is the garbage that some of the alt media was putting out on the balloon. the title sums it up.
90% OF U.S. WOULD DIE FROM CHINESE EMP ATTACK BY SPACE BALLOON- FACTS MATTER WITH ROMAN BALMAKOV
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WEjpOtTrjanp/
eX US Military colonel potter did a pretty good show on nordstream. the part that caught my eye was his discussion on the ukrainians using chemical weapons against russian soldiers and murdering russian POW`s. he wonders why the russians have not responded publicly yet about all of this. Am not posting for his biblical stuff later in the podcast.
https://odysee.com/@RoystonPotter:b/pipelines,-pooplines,-and-warcrimes:5
I could be wrong but unlike allot of the alt media commentators; am not sold on china being another great bastion of democracy and economic freedom. the following videos are quite interesting. I think there is some truth to them. One is definitely alt media and the other is mainstream.
if what the guy says is correct then eventually the down the road the hens will come home to roost. Also if the american brit neocons know this as chinas achilles heel;they also will know how to exploit it AT THE PROPER TIME.Also might explain why they think russia is more of a threat to them than china ; if 30% of chinese economics and savings are based on a mountain of concrete and steel . Might also explain russias drive for economic self sufficiency and their establishing close economic ties with india who has their own problems; but not this issue to deal with. Also from reports i hav read india know has more people in it than china does.
The Secret Behind China’s Ghost Cities 🧐
https://www.bitchute.com/video/TtlIQiFZHXNI/
right click to save as
https://seed163.bitchute.com/5exXRpSe5Vol/TtlIQiFZHXNI.mp4
Inside China’s ghost cities…homes for millions…but nobody’s home.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fPblbdl0jRY7/
right click to save as
https://seed167.bitchute.com/NYZMjDr6JOG3/fPblbdl0jRY7.mp4
regards,
ralph
Perhaps balloon shooting contests are the warfare of the FUTURE. The post Pentagon career of that INFO WARRIOR John Kirby(sorry ,ADMIRAL) continues unabated, seems we’ve shot down another object, though it was a promotional for that TOOTHY Richard Branson- Like A Voigin:)
And now we have this ..,
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-u-s-military-shoots-down-high-altitude-object-over-alaskan-sir-space/
Russia, China, the United States, whatever has sovereign control over their countries and has a duty and right to protect itself, period. If that means you shoot down something in you airspace, and yes, 60k feet is airspace, then it’s justified no matter.
Regarding the “weather” balloon that went “astray”just prior to this, if it was shot down in prior or after entering US airspace, like Alaska, the incident world have been minimized. Yep, China would have given protest, but so?
Larry as I watching the transom of available “news” I am left wondering why the FBI is involved with the forensics of what is a Chinese military intelligence asset. Reading that the debris is being taken to Quantico for forensics is curious.
Why would it not be taken to a site with better skill sets for this work?
I can’t wait to read how many parts have “Made in USA” on them…
What do you think about todays shoot down of “an object the size of a small car”?
I am sure the nose camera of the Raptor that shot it down new what it was….lol
Larry is one clueless dude. He still doesn’t see the obvious that the balloon was a spying device not a physical threat to the USA, but then again any child above the age of 8 knows this as well. It was flying at 60,000, not 55 miles as he implied a few days ago, and now we know it had state-of-the-art intel-gathering equipment. So if this is no threat to our national security then why did China do it? Just to mess with Joe? No, it was to collect data on knowing Joe would be too afraid and impotent to do anything about it.
Moreover, the quote from the Norad commander stated nothing more than the obvious; “It was my assessment that this balloon did not present a physical military threat to North America”.
i do not understand why people have to insult others on forums. The simple words respectully disagree or even just disagree would be allot more appropriate. The internet where people do not meet each other face to face and do not have to face the consequences of their words has allot to do with how people know communicate with each other online. When respectful social discourse does not exist yu get what yu go got know.
in olden times insulting someone could have serious consequences
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/burr-slays-hamilton-in-duel
Burr’s character was savagely attacked by Hamilton and others, and after the election he resolved to restore his reputation by challenging Hamilton to a duel, or an “affair of honor,” as they were known.
Affairs of honor were commonplace in America at the time, and the complex rules governing them usually led to an honorable resolution before any actual firing of weapons
https://sputniknews.com/20230209/us-spy-balloon-program-goes-back-70-years-included-flights-over-china-documents-reveal-1107280049.html
I believe, found a way to keep the US military preoccupied for a long period of time, and President Biden happy. That may solve few world problems.
$40 (or less) ea – Meteorological Balloons, up to 5,000 pieces per month
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Meteorological-Balloon_1600519711090.html
The grave danger is that as global power keeps slipping away, those in power will start behaving even more erratically in trying to hold on. The balloon is an excellent example. A true hegemon would either been unconcerned about a weather balloon and handled it diplomatically or it would have quietly destroyed it and maybe told the American people about.
To feel attacked by a weather balloon (even a spy balloon) and throw a public fit is simply unbecoming of the preeminent world power. The whole world is laughing at it.
Is the US really planning to go to war against China? What about arch Mao fan David “Bug Boy” Rockefeller’s plan for China to rule the roost? Has his 50-year-long scheme — enacted through the U.N./Club of Rome/Trilateral Commission et al — been defenestrated? Or did someone powerful in China say to Bug Boy’s gang “thanks for the leg up guys, we can take it from here?”
I think that Jake Sullivan is the most dangerous person in DC – more than Nuland, Blinken and anyone in the Pentagram. He was a nobody from Minneapolis, his high school valedictorian who went to Yale and became aide to Hillary and later, Biden. He scored Hillary’s Parkinson’s meds (so said the WikiLeaks email dump) and famously called Al Qaeda “on our side” in Syria. This is a guy who wanted to be at the center of the Great Game. He led the plot to bomb Nordstream from back in 2021. This is not a well-meaning guy who gets stuff wrong. This is a f*cking sociopath.