
I HAVE RECEIVED PERMISSION FROM TED POSTOL TO PUBLISH THE FOLLOWING EXCERPT FROM AN EMAIL HE WROTE IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FROM A FRIEND ASKING FOR HIS ASTUTE ANALYSIS OF IRAN’S DRONE AND MISSILE ATTACK ON ISRAEL. Theodore Postol is Professor of Science, Technology and National Security Policy in the Program in Science, Technology, and Society at MIT.
BEGIN TED POSTOL ANALYSIS:
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner with answers to your questions. I have been spending time trying to find any video data from the Iranian attacks on Israel that might be informative.
I have attached three video clips derived from some of the sources I found and have put them together in a way that will hopefully be helpful to you and your colleagues.
The first of these video clips is titled:
Real-Time & Slo Mo of Raw Video Clip of April 14, 2024 Iran Attack On Israel In Umm Al-Fahm P33_480_.mp4 (3.4 MB)
This clip shows two long-range Iranian missiles passing through the atmosphere, impacting, and exploding in Israel. The incoming missiles are bright spots in the video because they are traveling at a high enough speed (Mach 10 to 13) to be incandescent from atmospheric heating. For now, I will only give you several important highlights, but there is a lot more that can be derived from this particular video.
The video is cut into four sections.
The first section is simply the video as it appears in real time. The time-sequence is roughly 13 seconds long. The soundtrack has four sharp sounds like “gunfire,” which are simply the sounds from the ground-explosions delayed in time due to the speed of sound being much slower than the speed of light. Note that you can see only two ground-explosions, but the sound indicates there are two additional ground-explosions that occurred outside the field-of-view of the camera.
The second section is simply the first section repeated at one third speed, so you have a better chance of observing details.
The following two sections are simply a repeat of section 1 and section 2.
There are many other videos of unengaged ballistic missiles arriving, but all of them cut off before the warheads reach the ground. This is almost certainly due to Israeli classification rules that do not allow the press to publish videos of ground-explosions.
The second video clip titled:
Damage to Israeli Air Base In April 14, 2023 Iran Attack_480_.mp4 (2.8 MB)
This clip shows some of the ground damage at one of the two Israeli airbases that were the direct targets of these ballistic missile attacks. The first sequence shows a crater that was probably from a 200 to 400 kilogram explosive warhead. There are also photographs of lower levels of damage and smaller craters that may possibly be from drones that were not intercepted. The drones are known to have 50 kg warheads and would thereby produce much lower levels of ground damage and smaller craters.
A very interesting section of the video shows the Israelis repairing a runway, which must have been hit by a munition, requiring that the airbase to quickly fill in the crater and cover it with fast-annealing concrete.
All military airports have this capability as it is expected that runways will be attacked so as to limit the ability for the airbase to handle combat aircraft for taking off and landing.
The last 10 seconds of the video shows a ballistic missile arriving, and no interceptors in the air attempting to engage it. If you look carefully at the dark sky immediately above the building the warhead passes behind, you should be able to see one or more faint flashes in the sky. These faint flashes are indications of intense light from a ground explosion that is being reflected by particles in the sky.
The third video titled:
Israeli Drone Shootdowns on April 14, 2024 (Normal and Slo Mo-P35)240.mp4 (1.1 MB)
This video shows aircraft “gun camera” images of drones and cruise missiles that are being shot down with air-to-air missiles.
The gun camera images show cruise missiles:
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and drones:
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The cruise missiles travel at a speed of roughly 500 to 600 km/h while the drones travel at a much slower speed, about 220 to 250 km/h.
The videos show an extremely important fact.
All of the targets, whether drones or not, are shot down by air-to-air missiles.
The workhorse air-to-air missile of the United States Air Force is a AIM-9x Sidewinder.
The cost of a single Sidewinder air-to-air missile is about $500,000.
The cost of a drone is perhaps 10,000 or $20,000, and the cost of an Iranian cruise missile is probably about $100,000.
An extremely important fact released by the Israeli government is that the cost of defending Israel from this particular Iranian attack was about $1.3 billion!
The implications of this single number are substantial.
This indicates that the cost of defending from waves of attacks of this type is very likely to be unsustainable against an adequately armed and determined adversary.
The actual scale of the attack is summarized according to CNN in the image below:

The clear and unambiguous evidence from all of the videos of ballistic missiles arriving over Israel show that Iron Dome interceptors were essentially not used in any attempts to engage the ballistic missiles.
The decision to not even try to engage the long-range Iranian ballistic missiles is completely sound.
The Iron Dome interceptor would have a good chance of intercepting either a cruise missile or a drone that had leaked through the very substantial aircraft implemented air-defense system.
This almost certainly means that the bulk of the $1.3 billion cost of the defense was almost certainly expended on shooting down drones and cruise missiles with fighter aircraft launching air-to-air missiles against targets.
Since there is essentially no evidence of long-range ballistic missiles being engaged by Iron Dome, it could only mean that they were not engaged at all, or there were attempts to engage them with the Arrow and David’s sling defense systems.
The fact that a very large number of unengaged ballistic missiles could be seen glowing as they reenter the atmosphere to lower altitudes, indicates that whatever the effects of David’s Sling and the Arrow missile defenses, they were not especially effective.
Thus, the evidence at this point shows that essentially all or most of the arriving long-range ballistic missiles were not intercepted by any of the Israeli air and missile-defense systems.
An additional observation that is relevant to the situation of Israel relative to South Korea is illustrated in the two maps below:

The maps indicate that the drones and cruise missiles had to travel distances of 1300 to 1500 km from Iran to Israel, and roughly 2000 km from Yemen to Israel.
This transit requires many hours allowing for fighter aircraft to engage drones and cruise missiles. There are now reports that the US Navy provided airborne warning and control systems (AWACS, specifically, Navy E-2 Hawkeyes)) which were extremely effective in vectoring fighter aircraft to targets that they could then quickly acquire and destroy.
Such an opportunity would be much more limited in the case of similar types of mass attacks from North Korea against South Korea. AWACS will certainly be tremendously helpful in the case of defending South Korea from this type of attack, but the engagement-rate limitations of combat aircraft against very large numbers of drones and cruise missiles would make the effectiveness of this kind of combat-air defense much lower than was the case for the Israeli defense against Iran.

Another very serious problem that analysts will need to consider is that commercially available technology is now good enough for constructing cruise missiles and drones that have limited but usefull capabilities to “recognize” their targets and home on them.
On September 14, 2019 Iranian produced cruise missiles were used to attack the Abqaiq Oil Facility in Saudi Arabia. The nature of the damage to the facility indicated that the cruise missiles had an effective accuracy of perhaps a few feet, much more precise than could be achieved with GPS guidance.
I have analyzed the situation, and have concluded that commercially available optical and computational technology is more than capable of being adapted to a cruise missile guidance system to give it very high precision homing capability. The proof of this conclusion is in the satellite photograph below:

as can be seen from this satellite image produced by the company Digital Globe and paid for and released by the US government. It shows that four cruise missiles struck four oil processing tanks at Abqaiq at essentially the same point on each of the tanks. Such precision could not possibly be achieved with GPS guidance alone.
In order to convince myself that my conclusion that the optical homing could be done with nothing more than satellite data, I stimulated the homing process by taking the satellite image of a single isolated oil processing tank,

I then performed a well-known procedure called “image cross-correlation” on the original satellite images of the tanks.
The correlation “functions” that were produced by this very simple computer experiment are shown below,


And the results are projected onto an actual satellite photograph of the tanks, showing that the correlation methodology provides very high precision in identifying the central location on a tank that is to be hit.

Since the optical and computational systems needed to perform these correlations in near-real-time on a homing missile are well within the capabilities of commercial cameras and computer chips (NVidia chips are well up to the job), it is my conclusion that the Iranians have already developed precision guided cruise missiles and drones.
The implications of this are clear.
The cost of shooting down cruise missiles and drones will be very high and might well be unsustainable unless extremely inexpensive and effective anti-air systems can be implemented.
It is certainly possible to shoot down drones and cruise missiles with antiaircraft guns, although these systems will be of limited range and will need to be relatively close to targets they are defending.
At this time, no one has demonstrated a cost-effective defense system that can intercept ballistic missiles with any reliability. So far, even Iron Dome has been a failure against artillery rockets, which are of quite short range and are of quite simple and inexpensive.
The Israelis claim an outrageous cost per Iron Dome interceptor of between $60,000 and $80,000 an interceptor. It seems that this claim must be untrue.
Similarly sophisticated interceptors, whether they are the Javelin antitank missile, which costs about $200,000 each or the AIM-9x air-to-air missile are tremendously more expensive.
The Israelis Iron Dome system has been to a very good first approximation completely funded by the US government. Any consideration for purchasing the system must be accompanied by proof it can work in combat and by accurate cost estimates of the different components.
Only then should any consideration be given to whether or not purchase Iron Dome.
I have a lot more I can say about these issues, but I fear I have probably already overwhelmed you with details that raise many more questions that I am not sure I can answer.
Those people who advocate buying these active defenses should be asked to provide data that shows what I have collected herein and elsewhere is not supported by the facts.
Anyone who advocates a defense approach for their country should be able to show that they have a fully reasoned argument, which includes information about the effectiveness of the strategy and its affordability.
Wishful thinking, like what has happened in Ukraine, will at best be a recipe for tremendous expenditures for little capability.
I would welcome to hear the arguments of those who want to make such purchases. I am open to learning and to obtaining data that could lead me to a different conclusion.










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Is there a Polish and/or Rumanian missile crisis? If not, will there be a Polish Missile Crisis?
Kremlin reacts to Poland’s nuclear comments
The country’s president has said that Warsaw is ready to host US atomic weapons on its territory
https://www.rt.com/russia/596403-kremlin-poland-us-nuclear-weapons/
The US-led bloc is behaving as if ‘war psychosis’ has set in, FM Szijjarto has said
https://www.rt.com/news/596405-hungary-nato-russia-war/
Ted Postol does great work. I first heard of him from Ray McGovern kudos. The I searched him and found YouTube’s as well as publications at the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. (BAS)
Articles by Theodore A. Postol
https://thebulletin.org/biography/theodore-a-postol/
“The American government argues that the Aegis-ashore installations pose no threat to Russia because computer software in the Polish and Romanian installations is not compatible with the launch of cruise missiles. The US State Department issued a very sharply stated rebuke of Russian concerns on December 8, 2017, claiming, “Specifically [emphasis added], the [Aegis ashore] system lacks the software, fire control hardware, support equipment, and other infrastructure needed to launch offensive ballistic or cruise missiles such as the Tomahawk.”
But the mechanical and electronic components installed in the Romanian and Polish Aegis ashore sites are unmodified from those installed on US Navy warships, which were designed from the beginning to simultaneously be able to launch cruise missiles as well as anti-air missiles.
To argue that the Aegis ashore system is not programmed to launch cruise missiles is no different than arguing that a workstation computer cannot read flash drives or information from video cameras. It is simply a false assertion that is incompatible with the engineering design of the system. “
from
Russia may have violated the INF Treaty. Here’s how the United States appears to have done the same. – Ted Postol
https://thebulletin.org/2019/02/russia-may-have-violated-the-inf-treaty-heres-how-the-united-states-appears-to-have-done-the-same/#post-heading
“Naval Support Facility-Redzikowo is to be declared operational on Friday, 15 December 2023, according to the Prime Minister of Poland, Donald Tusk.[1][2]”
from
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_missile_defense_complex_in_Poland
Since NATO’s Ukraine proxy has started launching missile and drone attacks into Russia, probably with the permission of NATO, the risk of a third world war is rising. This is like the liberally applied whipping cream and strawberries on the potential cake of nuclear war. But the risk is never mentioned.
2 Corinthians 10:12 (KJV)
For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
They’re living in their own bubble. It’s not wise to play with matches. All they can do is talk about conventional weapons. Carl Sagan said it best.
“Imagine, a room, awash in gasoline. And there are two implacable enemies in that room. One of them has 9,000 matches. The other has 7,000 matches. Each of them is concerned about who’s ahead, who’s stronger. Well, that’s the kind of situation we are actually in. The amount of weapons that are available to the United States and the Soviet Union are so bloated, so grossly in excess of what’s needed to dissuade the other that if it weren’t so tragic, it would be laughable.”
Carl Sagan
Deterrence is for children, if the children are deterred. Obviously they aren’t. Reason and disarmament are called for before the world destroys itself.
First they planned to establish and secure a militarized Ukraine on Russia’s borders. They were meant to kill Russians in the process and from there they wanted a colour revolution and/or regime change in Russia, replacing Putin.
Since that didn’t work, they are settling on various infiltration teams and attacks within Russia, from Ukraine, as long as Ukraine survives, to destroy Russian confidence in Putin, likely as they planned from the beginning.
They think they can play regime change with a nuclear weapons superpower.
They’re idiots about nuclear war. Putin has read all the books and seen all the movies about NATO/USA regime changes and colour revolutions. The fact that they want to apply those same principles against Russia itself, and himself, and Putin recognizes that, means that Putin knows that they are insane or stupid about nuclear war, at the highest levels. Biden has a few smarts but at a Cold War residual level. Putin would like to think better of them, but they have forced him to know otherwise. Russia is probably the strongest nuclear superpower in the world, but in a relatively small country by population, albeit large by resources. And these idiots want to play God while endangering the world with nuclear war, which they cannot comprehend.
How nuclear war would affect earth today
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/07/220707100953.htm
The article starts out calling it Russia’s war on Ukraine. They don’t say NATO expansion to Russia’s borders, colour revolutions, regime changes and missile installations, emplacements and mobile launchers on Russia’s borders. It’s like I said, they’re morons.
Matthew 5:22 (KJV)
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 12:50 (KJV)
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Mark 3:35 (KJV)
For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
They may need to receive the Spirit of adoption, like us. Then they would no longer be morons and idiots, or at least get on the road away from their idiocy.
Romans 8:15 (KJV)
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Even Putin acknowledges the threat of volcanic winter and the science of it. He’s a deep thinker and even in his few sparse comments, he obviously accepts the science.
“Of course, we keep hearing about climate change. Its speed has startled and even awed some specialists. The year 2020 was the second warmest year on record, tying with 2016, while in some parts of Russia the climate is warming twice as fast as in other regions on the planet. This creates both opportunities and challenges for us.” … “In ancient times, there were numerous devastating disasters that destroyed almost all living things on this planet, not only the dinosaurs that we constantly talk about. Tens and hundreds of millions of years ago, events took place, which led to the almost complete extinction of all living creatures, reptiles and ocean life, as well as those on earth. Twenty, 30, 50, or even up to 70 percent of all living creatures died. What was the reason? There were different assumptions and different reasons: possible flares accompanying the birth of new superstars near the Earth, powerful volcanic eruptions that created climatic conditions similar to a nuclear winter, the fall of 10-kilometre-wide meteorites that produced the same effect, and so on. All of this is history, the history of our planet.“
Quotes from
http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66554
We should prepared for volcanic winter and ready to combat global warming, rather than needlessly raise the risk of nuclear winter. They’re fools. To some extent we all are.
How volcanoes shaped our planet — and why we need to be ready for the next big eruption
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01179-1
“The proponents of our militarized foreign policy asked us once again to give war a chance. We foolishly did. This has now left us with no alternative to trying diplomacy. We cannot hope to regain at the negotiating table what we have lost on the battlefield, but we must now strive to compose a peace with Russia that enables Ukraine to be both a buffer and a bridge between Russia and the rest of Europe. That – not NATO membership – is the prerequisite for the emergence of a prosperous and democratic Ukraine, untainted by corruption. And that – not NATO membership for Ukraine – is the prerequisite for peace and stability in Europe.“
from
What Can We Learn from our Forever War in Ukraine?
https://chasfreeman.net/what-can-we-learn-from-our-forever-war-in-ukraine/
Then there’s other problems. Low carbon nuclear energy is an essential part of the solution to global climate warming and the warming sea surface temperatures with gross immediate effects on weather are having immediate effects. Nuclear works and it has worked but they won’t pay attention.
Spent nuclear fuel mismanagement poses a major threat to the United States. Here’s how.
https://thebulletin.org/2024/04/spent-nuclear-fuel-mismanagement-poses-a-major-threat-to-the-united-states-heres-how/
It’s all about managing risk and if we need risks, there’s plenty out there without creating unnecessary ones.
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I’m sure the host will post a new thread on the recent YouTube chat with Ania K. and Pepe Escobar. So, this is just my short take on the topic in question (43:24 to 1:05:30).
Working on the information delivered:
PE spoke what he was told (by multiple sources).LJ has been played in the past and PE accepts he may be in play at the present.No physical ‘F35’ evidence is available (yet) to support the conjecture.There are high-level agencies involved in both the story and the leak (to PE) and there are limits to what PE can say.This high-level concern — possibly at the BRICS level — was/is to stomp on unsafe West Asian hot-head (shame based) escalation.Last point by PE indicates that Iran’s post-Damascus response hurt the Palestine Occupation much more than is being admitted.This likely set off some serious ‘settler’ over-reaction and possible escalatory reprisal by Israeli military towards Iran.The “EMP” nuclear event may be accurate, or it may be a (if you do) metaphor.Whatever it was (or was being planned), it was “shut down” by the next higher-levels within the West Asian theater of operations.Serious (large) players — who do not practice deceit within their trusted networks (cough?) — have very good raw first-hand intel on covert West Asian developments.Perhaps others can squeeze more out it than that?
My bottom-line: The junk-yard dogs running a Gaza genocide program for the future real-estate condo value reached the end of their chain. They were politely told to take the “win” and back off. Some were not listening carefully enough it seems.
Adults have had to step in to stop rapid escalation what would have sent price shockwaves across every gas-pump user in the world — even unto November elections. The impounded ship was the Iranian ‘next step’ signal. A limited public ‘leak’ was arranged (sub-msm) to reinforce the message. More real pain will follow if limits are not followed.
Looks like the postmodern biblical tribal gods just got their wings clipped by modern pragmatism — Asian style. Whatever happened (or could have happened) was a step too far (at this time).
PE is looking concerned but comfortable. He’ll probably chill in home-town Brazil for a bit under Lula’s umbrella until the dogs of junk-yard war settle down with new distractions. BRICS has shown a small multi-polar claw. I’ve finished my popcorn — but I assume more will be needed in due course.
And the mystery sources? Hmmm, … I’m back to maybe China and Pakistan. But only PE (and his phone company) know it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6x06HLGk38
In other news, Richard Wolff told Danny Haiphong the France ask Xi Jinping to join BRICS but was denied. Couldn’t bring his French colonialism with him, I am guessing. I do have a strange feeling about Germany, that it will be will be the first to jump US ship. It isn’t in cards for them to play stupid to US tyranny.
Also did you know that 9000 elderly die every year in The UK due to hypothermia.
https://ageing-better.org.uk/blogs/why-are-9000-annual-cold-home-deaths-met-such-shrug-indifference
Just FYI
Thanks LJ for posting this
In my opinion Postol’s analysis are skewed toward Israel because some of his videos came from israeli sources which contain obvious disinformation of ‘the hit was not serious’ BS hasbara narrative..
Off topic:
Jacques Baud talked once more with Nima Alkorshid:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD80PKo8ts4
Title of this video: NATO’s Policy of Self-Destruction as Ukraine is Being Destroyed | Col. Jacques Baud
Larry, where can we find the videos mentioned in Mr. Postol’s email excerpt?
Not sure. I’ve asked.
I have a question:
How long will it be before Stealth coatings and technology are applied to missiles and rockets of all sizes?????
Remember who cool this stealth stuff is supposed to be for planes? Well, what happens when rockets and missiles can’t be detected by radar?????
A hypersonic missile generates an ionized gas shield that reduces the radar cross-section to the point where it is very difficult to detect with radar:
The Effect of Hypersonic Plasma Sheaths on Radar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth
Already done for a lot of slower stuff.
Hypersonics probably burn off all outer coatings.
Doesn’t matter, they cannot be intercepted.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/3m22-zircon-debunking-misconceptions
3M22 Zircon: Debunking Misconceptions
Just now technical Zircon analysis. And on where the US stands on hypersonics.
Looks like Postol has killed the Iron Dome market. The MIC will not take that lying down!
Or maybe Iran killed the Iron Dome market.
Absolutely loved the detail. Baffles me why the US ignores their own professionals, as stated wishful thinking only goes so far an decades ago British friend said the issue with Russia was them finding out first hand was US/UK weapons capabilities was 70% smoke and mirrors – the remaining 30% would give them enough of a demonstration to allow them to create their own firing solution to neutralise the system – effectively showing their hand to their adversaries.
The all-important missiles are Russia’s hypersonics, which easily sink aircraft carriers and cannot be stopped by anything that the USA has, nor will have, in the foreseeable future. Yet our “leaders” continue to beat the war drum for a war that we cannot possibly win, a war that’ll get us all killed if it escalates to nuclear.
“THE KINZHAL TURNS MIGHTY AIRCRAFT CARRIER STRIKE GROUPS INTO
SITTING DUCKS
Russia’s new Kinzhal missile flies at speeds of mach 12 to mach 15 and nothing in western defensive arsenals can stop its strike. During the war in Ukraine, Russia staged a stunning demonstration of its power. The first Kinzhal strike, delivered one month after the beginning of hostilities in Ukraine, was perhaps the most significant: Russian forces targeted a large weapons depot in Ukraine which had been built during the Soviet times to withstand a nuclear strike. It was buried 170 meters (over 500 ft) underground and protected by several layers of armored concrete.
The Kinzhal flies at altitudes of between 20 and 40 km, with a maximum range of 2,000 km. When above target, it dives perpendicularly and accelerates to 15 mach, generating enormous kinetic energy in addition to its explosive payload.
That first strike with a single Kinzhal missile destroyed Ukraine’s nuke-proof underground weapons depot. This was a message for the west.
MOSCOW CALLING: WE CAN SINK ALL YOUR CARRIERS
The Kinzhal was developed with the express purpose of destroying aircraft carrier strike groups. If it could destroy a warehouse built to withstand a nuclear strike, it can cut through an aircraft carrier like a hot knife through butter.
According to Admiral Domazet, neither the western powers nor China are anywhere near having weapons like that. He explained that the critical issue with hypersonic weapons are the extreme temperatures reached during hypersonic flights on the surface of missiles, which can cause them to break apart mid-flight. Russia is the only nation that has developed special materials that enable the missiles to withstand this stress, so their flight can be controlled throughout its trajectory and delivered with pinpoint accuracy.”
From: “Russia’s Hypersonic Weapons Change Everything; The US Has No Defense Against Them”
https://gulfcoastcommentary.substack.com/p/alex-krainer-russias-hypersonic-weapons
The Russians produce 200 Kinzhals a year, that’s a lot faster (and far cheaper) than the USA can produce aircraft carriers and the men to operate them. It’s like the Americans armed with spears fighting the Russians armed with machine guns. Add in Russia’s coming Poseidon torpedos (due in 2027) and its game over. Why can’t our US “leaders” and the US military get that through their thick heads and act accordingly?
Israel has been often called the Aircraft Carrier of the ME.
Iran just demonstrated what hypersonics could do next time.
“Israel has been often called the Aircraft Carrier of the ME.”
Yes, it has been called the UNSINKABLE aircraft carrier for decades. A bogus claim (similar to Israel being our “greatest” ally) and justification for sending them billions of dollars every year.
Why’s that?
Because we would never need an aircraft carrier there in the first place, and only need one now because of our neocons shameless support for the bottomless money pit that is Israel.
When Congress passed the $90 billion and FISA bills, I only saw UKraine flags being waved. Weird.
Israel is an unsinkable Aircraft Carrier with electric power generators and power distribution – a mini UKraine.
“When Congress passed the $90 billion and FISA bills, I only saw UKraine flags being waved. Weird.”
They put on a show that was an insult to any thinking American’s intelligence. All these political clowns waving Ukrainian flags need to be sent packing.
Good comment. The “nuclear warehouse” was actually a Soviet bunker some 20 stories underground. Impressive. However, due to aquifer pressure, it is not really feasible to go deep in Brussels. Maybe NATO should move its HQ to the Apennines!
From the apartment we have in near-downtown Brussels I can walk to NATO headquarters in around 90 minutes; if we’re there when it gets hit with an atom bomb we’re toast. Unfortunately, those almost new NATO headquarters (I saw them being built from the ground up across the street from the old headquarters) ain’t going anywhere anytime soon.
There iwll probably never be a defense system that is 100% efficient.
DETERRENCE is the ultimate defense – the knowledge that you will be hit back. that is why Israel’s counter attack was necessary.
Regarding Israel’s use of nukes I believe every nation having nukes will use them if faced with destruction.
The USA used them, while not facing destruction.
They are a terrorist weapon, terrorizing the USSR and China then, and especially the US people themselves.
And Israel has already used them.
Dear Larry, dear friends,
where can i find the 2 videos from Theo Postel?
Many greetings, willi, Asuncion, Paraguay
The videos can be found here:
Iran Breaches Anglo-Zionist Defenses in Historic Attack: A Breakdown
The videos were also posted on southfront.org within a few hours of Iran’s retaliatory operation.
Thank you fot yout update of the text with the embedded videos.
The message is clear – ballistic missiles mean no nuke or emp is needed to totally blackout Israel. Iran knows this, the world knows it.
Even wild-eyed Zionists realize the strategic weakness of Israel, by design. PM Sunak told Gantz that Israel will never be a normal country, and that was before Iran ballistic missiles.
There is no mention of Electric Power in the Old Testaments and as in UKraine generators and nodes are not defended. Electric War is the way today.
The last blackout for Israel was lifted by God’s Temple Miracle 2,188 years ago.
That was a one-off.
I’m afraid that didn’t clarify much for me.
1. Where are the four videos Postol mentions?
2. The Iron Dome supposed hits in the photos, are they of Iranian cruise missiles or the drones which usually don’t fly that high? Or unrelated Hamas rockets? Or just WHAT exactly? There are no captions under each image. Useless.
3. Were any of the ballistic missiles intercepted at all? The implication here is no. That’s 100 big bangs total, or about 90 unaccounted for from accepted ground hits. A hundred bangs of many actual hits would have leaked out from the Israeli populace at large by now.
As presented, I find this all a bit of a jumbled mess. The perils of being an engineer on my part for my working life. I guess. This kind of unorganized narrative would never have left my engineering department as a report — I was the manager and read and commented on it all. If it is, as LJ mentions, merely an exerpt of what Postol wrote, I’lk excuse that gentleman..
War is SNAFU.
It is amazing how a weekend engineering upgrade with night shift, looks so squeaky clean on the Monday morning report.
Larry was on night shift.
my understanding (from IRNA) is 62 missiles hit (and Iran claims flattened) the intelligence base in North Israel. Tellingly, Israel is not releasing any information on the third target. Someone outside the MICC will purchase satellite imagery, one of these days, and we will learn what happened there.
That number 120 ballistic missiles is disinformation to create a false impression that 90% were intercepted. The two salvos on the heaviest defended high-value targets (the airbases) got through with a few meters CEP. That’s all there was (accompanied by some missiles that released a cluster of decoys that also did their job as expected.) They want you to believe there were another 100 missiles fired at grocery stores and shopping centers that got intercepted. Sure. I’ve got a bridge sell you. The actual number of drones was around 330. Probably some cruise missiles too but I don’t know how many.
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There are analyses that differ in content. From “old” to hypersonic. Thanks also for this one. The fact seems to be that there is no effective protection against modern ballistic missiles and hypersonic weapons in the entire West. Add to this the problems with the quantity of anti-aircraft missiles and the economic problem. The reference to the “Korean problem” is also very interesting.
Perhaps in this context SIMICIUS could add: “3M22 Zircon: Debunking Misconceptions”.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/3m22-zircon-debunking-misconceptions
However, I always archive all such (valuable) considerations with caution. We’re talking about closely guarded secrets.
On “Pepes atomic bomb”. Wait and see.
I hope Peoe Escobar is wrong or has been deceived. Why do I hope so? I have not the slightest doubt that the USA is ready for a nuclear first strike. Trillions of US dollars have been spent on this over many decades. Exercises to this effect are still being carried out today. This is also the main reason for NATO enlargement. Last but not least, the USA had already used nuclear bombs in real life. There are no scruples. Not to mention the Israelis.
If this story is true, then we are right on the brink of nuclear war. Because the readiness is there. Lavrov said it directly just recently.
I watched Lavrov this morning. Like you I’m waiting to see where this goes, but given the US and Israeli track record I’m leaning towards its credibility. If not now then when? The US mis-leaders should know their capability to manage and sustain conflict(s). And the US is nuclear biased. I’d say Bibi and his crew are equally desperate/crazy.
Thank you as usual. From an artist struggling to grasp a
STEM education on a second go round pushing ninety,
and very grateful to God for all that!
At the age of 90? My respect is boundless.
It just demonstrates the madness of a decision to live in a state of perpetual armed conflict with other nations. The US is currently funding and fuelling two major sites of mass destruction. In the one case it could simply recognise Russia’s legitimate grievances that it aggravated, and in the other force Israel to accept a two state solution by refusing any further support if it doesn’t. Then see where that leaves everything.
As for all those donors calling the shots behind the scenes, call their bluff and let’s see what they do. It is beyond time to disarm them.
The Two State Solution was vetoed to smithereens by the US years ago. The only way to implement it would be to have an Israeli civil war against the settlers. Unlikely!
They would sooner join forces with the settlers and kick out the Palestinians. And that’s sort of where we are now.
The US MIC is much too powerful to accomplish much of what you suggest – on both the Ukrainian and the Gazan fronts – too much money is involved. As for a two-state solution, that is quite beyond the bounds of reality – and always was as geographically it would necessitate a physically split country still at the mercy of constant pressure by the Israelis, the displacement of fanatical settlers and against everything the zionist creature advocates.
The fact is that this is a battle to the death of either the Palestinian movement or the zionist project.
The only realistic solution is a forced abandonment of the zionist project and the establishment of a one-state solution where Palestinians, Christians and Jews live together and sharing equal rights. If the zionist project is allowed to win, the world will be faced with continued chaos and destruction in West Asia and very probably a world war.
This is a battle to the death of the MIC, MSM and congress and whatever collateral damages comes to this for the US and co.
as for Israel, this goose is cooked. It will be one state Israel, and since the genocide is driven by the dependents n African and west Asian Jews who found refuge in Muslim countries, there will be very few Jews remaining there.
Yes.
For me, the key takeaway was that all the ballistic missiles got through, and they had no way to stop them. I think the speeds he talked about, and the glow-in-the-dark aspect of them glowing from heat due to speed is part of the tell. I guess Iran popped a few hypersonics at Israel. I would say that’s a wake up call.
We hope. But doubtful if it is absorbed.
What does the good mr. Postol mean when he has “missed artillery rockets” marked in the photographs.
Surely the Iranians weren’t lobbing artillery at the direction of Israel — were they?
Iirc, Hezbollah joined in the swarm.
My SWAG is from Hamas and/or Hezbollah.
I hope Professor Postol will provide future writings for publication on Sonar21.
In contrast to the poor performance of Western, highly profitable, AAD systems, leakage through Russia AAD seems quite low.
Additionally, EW against the Iranian drones seems to have been ineffective, Russia EW against Ukrainian/Western drones seems to be effective from various reports.
Nice photos. Time lapse I assume. The “image cross-correlation” was interesting.
Apart from the $cost issues (not really issues when the MIC is Fed Reserve printing press funded) the interesting takeaway for me was the comment on the “capabilities of commercial cameras and computer chips” which imply (without any intended sarcasm) that there is now a whole new world of flying shovels, washing machines, and phone cameras out there challenging the hyper-expensive establishment MIC systems.
One can bet the ‘pay check’ (Ritter) that NK are learning how to take on their Southern cousins. And I would assume (also on a recent Ritter side comment) that Iran’s flexible Fatwa bans on nuclear may well be modified to allow high-level structural destabilization via EMP. Mass disruption rather than mass destruction would fit within the Islamic ethic.
Reference? Perhaps several hadiths apply — including where their Prophet threw sand/dust at the attacking armies when all else appeared to be failing.
As an added comment to yours, I am not Muslim, so I can’t speak authoritatively on this, but it seems to me that the fatwa against the use of weapons of mass destruction applies primarily to those weapons that inflict widespread casualties on the civilian population. An EMP does no such thing, but as you say, “throws sand in their eyes”. So the development of a low-yield nuke for the purpose of producing a high altitude EMP would seem to me to be permissible.
But I would need support from our Muslim friends to support that assertion.
Well, indeed. I would only claim to be somewhat informed — due mainly to some research about 20 years ago. The story exists.
“The Prophet throws dust into the enemies ‘ faces in Badr and Hunain” — e.g., https://www.alsiraj.net/English/miracle/html/page24.html
As to its applicability within your scenario? Like yourself, I’d leave it to the scholars. However, it has that ultra-thin salami-slice notch up the critical nuclear-discourse ladder feel that Iranians seem to specialise in.
Nonetheless, there is room to raise questions, and perhaps to maneuver, in due course.
Two things I am somewhat certain about:
a) Pepe has shifted/nudged the narrative — at least at the deeper end of Blogs-ville; and
b) There are going to be a zillion really pissed-off women looking for real-world washing machine chips to replace the burnt out ones, not to mention fridges, cars, computers, phones, … Einstein’s WW4 “sticks and stones” basically.
Of course, in Woke America, who knows these days, … maybe it’s the men who do the washing? Lol.
If nothing else, it has given the Israeli AI tracking system another zillion rhizomic rabbit holes to waste time running down. (smiley)
Interestingly, strategic ambiguity achieves deterrence.
Iran need only declare it likely consistent with Islam to achieve much of the deterrence capacity (as a threshold state with an un-interceptable delivery capacity, it may already have the capability).
The balance in West Asia shifted dramatically a few days ago, building on the SCO and BRICs and fading the US economic empire, which will amplify changes across the global south.
Outright theft of Russian assets will further accelerate the trends – piracy is weakness.
Interesting comment.
That was a truly great article. Thanks for sharing Larry. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. Asymmetric warfare. Make them spend a Billion while you spend 100 million.
And how many of those air-to-air interceptors does the US have in stock? When we were murdering goat herders that was not exactly a priority issue.
And this is an actual observation. I have a friend whose son is deployed on a aircraft carrier. I will not go into many details. Poor bastard has 2 years left for his 20 retirement. He has a one-year-old baby. He is deployed constantly. He is working over 15 hours a day, and seven days a week. The recruits are fucking useless. He is a safety officer, and he is about to stroke out.
This is how the Evil Empire dies. A pin prick here. A stab there. Exhausting the people and resources until finally the brain-dead dinosaur stops lumbering forward and crushing people.
I can tell of a similar experience. Acquaintance is a former Army tech specialist, full medical discharge as he was badly injured in Iraq, now in a wheelchair. Was called back to active duty, sent to the ME, not sure when he will be back. Evil Empire indeed.
Ted Postol does good work with minimal info. But he may be off on this.
“The Israelis claim an outrageous cost per Iron Dome interceptor of between $60,000 and $80,000 an interceptor. It seems that this claim must be untrue.
Similarly sophisticated interceptors, whether they are the Javelin antitank missile, which costs about $200,000 each or the AIM-9x air-to-air missile are tremendously more expensive.”
My recollection was that the Iron Dome interceptor missiles were designed from the beginning to be relatively unsophisticated, cheap and short range. Instead of longer range / higher impulse / long duration motors, the missile pressure vessels (the ‘tank’ holding the solid rocket fuel that doubles as the rocket’s chamber) were sourced from industrial steel pipe instead of more expensive, high pressure composite wraps like the examples.
Both example missiles have cooled IR seekers, which requires coolant tanks, cooler engines, etc while the Tamir interceptor is described as having an “RF seeker” which typically means more simple electronics that can be produced and stored less expensively. The Javelin and AIM-9X IR seekers are both gimbaled to boot; both have extensive travel to allow a high degree of off-axis boresight, for different reasons but complicating their seekers and increasing power consumption.
Also the two examples, Javelin and AIM-9X are highly autonomous missiles with advanced “fire and forget” capabilities incorporating lots of smarts regarding issues such as countermeasures, flight profiles, etc, which means lots of lines of code and the hardware to process it, while the Iron Dome Tamir interceptor uses target data updates from its ground based targeting radar and command and control system.
I don’t know any details of its radar seeker / receiver, but don’t believe it to be anything like the advanced active radars of Beyond Visual Range missiles such as AAMRAM or the old Phoenix. It may be a relatively low power system, or even a semi-active or even passive system such as the old Patriot Track Via Missile scheme. This and the reduced range / time of flight means smaller, lighter electronics, smaller batteries, etc. since most of the system’s smarts remain in the ground segment and update the missile via datalink. All that could add up to a much cheaper missile, especially if manufactured outside the bureaucratic morass that is today’s DOD procurement system and the costs it imposes.
And so it goes….
Those non-israeli aircraft participating in such actions will find themselves doing a lot of jinking if they are ever declared “enemy combatants.” that will keep them busy.
a plane is a lot bigger and more cumbersome than a missile
The price of a single FGM-148 JAVELIN A/TK Missile is approximately USD $80000.
Rather preposterous to use the JAVELIN A/TK munition as any kind of comparative example in any discussion regarding THAAD.
The FGM-148 JAVELIN missile whilst a fire & forget missile only reaches a velocity of approximately 150 m/s during its flight sequence…which is very slow by most missile standards.
Thank you for this corrective info.
Professor Postol’s article is really informative and written in a manner that is understandable. 🫡
except I see no video
Disappointed
They are cranky videos, I had to hit on them a number of times to get the image to come up.
I am glad someone understood it. I didn’t. Iron Dome wasn’t used I did gather but did not understood why. As to the rest it it seemed muddled and contradictory to my very untechnical brain. I will await Larry’s take on it.
Iron Dome was certainly used, didn’t you see all that stuff going up in the air?
Iron Dome was not used against the ballistic missiles fired by iran, that is exactly the point. But it certainly was used against the slow-moving stuff.
What a waste of ammo…….
Postol claims that Iron Dome did not engage the ballistic missiles – that was done by higher theater AAD – eg David’s sling, US systems, etc., which attempted to engage them in the exosphere/space, and missed most or all. Iron dome engaged the cruise missiles, most or all (unclear if all) drones were taken out by airplanes.
Elsewhere, RItter argues that Iron Dome addressed decoys, describing it in other videos, which I understood were from ballistic missiles, not cruise missiles.
Interestingly, Postol identifies hypersonic speed missiles in the attack. Note, this disagrees with Simplicius’ analysis.
Of course, with all that advance warning, every satellite was focused on western Asia, so this attack has been heavily dissected by those with clearance. Perhaps bits will start to leak from motivated state actors who would like to deflate the Idiocracy-level 99% intercept claim.
Not so fast :
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/iran-breaches-anglo-zionist-defenses
If I remember this article correctly, Simplicius said the hypersonic missiles used were not the fastest Iran has and they were not hypersonic for all stages of their flight. My sincere apologies to Simplicius and the reader if I am recalling incorrectly.
I’ve always hugely admired Professor Postol’s work: expert, thorough, deductive. Given how he is frequenly critical of the ‘standard narrative’ I’m both surprised and pleased he hasn’t been cancelled.
Briefly, in regards to recent allegations of 1) Israeli intent to use a nuclear weapon against Iran, and 2) French troops in Odessa, I simply comment “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” So far, that evidence appears lacking.
Re: Pepe E. He recently posted on his Telegram the following: “I’m on a crazy schedule in Rio. Will have a serious update soon on the F-35/nuclear bomb/EMP over Iran mystery.” So he has not recanted yet.
the problem I have with Escobar and with Mercouris is that both get a bit too gleeful when describing the progress of the war in Ukraine and the downfall of the United States and NATO.
I personally feel that NATO has long since outlived its usefulness and I wish nothing more than that the warmongers in Washington, London and the EU would get sent to the frontlines to spend the rest of their miserable lives waiting in a trench for a russian FAB to land on them.
I would remind Escobar and Mercouris to wipe the smirks off their faces and stick to reporting the facts as they can be best ascertained. Commentary, OK: but remember that these conflicts bring terrible death and destruction with them and are not in the least amusing…. get a grip, fellas
Neither Mercouris nor Pepe are really factual reporters, they spin and use facts for their own purposes.
uptick.
Always happy to read what he has to say. However, and to quote Ira Gershwin,
“I’ll take that gospel
Whereever it’s possible,
But with a grain of salt.” 🙂
Meanwhile, Andrew Korybko has an interesting piece today devoted to Pepe’s alt-media stature and less-than-perfect track record:
https://korybko.substack.com/p/was-pepe-escobar-duped-by-a-foreign
Best wishes.
I stopped reading Korybko because of his strong slant polluting his analysis, but this peace was very informative. In the light of Pepe’s consistent misinformation and high statue within Russia, I think he is aligned with the BRICS-slanted faction, and is acting not under coercion, but within his own agency. He is a spin-doctor with his own agenda that obviously has enough influence to count.
As a corollary, Korybko must be aligned with the opposing faction within Russia.
Korybko has 2 pieces, and John Helmer at least 1.
Remember the leaked German Generals Taurus missile chat?
Escobar interpreted that and put his own spin on it.
https://johnhelmer.net/new-evidence-the-german-taurus-attack-plan-was-leaked-by-the-us-air-force/
“here apparently we have a clear cut case of top German military officers taking direct orders regarding an attack on Crimea – part of the Russian Federation – directly from American officers in the Pacific Air Forces.”
“There is no evidence of this in the record of what the Germans actually said and meant.”
It is obvious what Escobar tried to imply.
When a journalist tries to shift policy in these high tension times, either it is a replay of GL not realizing the danger, or capture.
Korybko doesn’t have what I would call a sparkling track record himself.
I agree, because of his personal slant he cannot be relied on, but he is well-informed. The same goes for Pepe, so read both with caution.
Touch`e!
Thank you for the “educated conjecture” link by Andrew Korybko. On a first quick read I’m not sure how to take it. Indeed, a bit more than a ‘grain’ of salt is needed with all this business.
The strong intent seems to be aimed at soiling Pepe Escobar’s (assumed) links with Russian insiders. Professional envy there?
Certainly PE skates on thin ice from time to time, but he is as much a raconteur as a journalist, imo. Part of the charm. I originally thought Chinese influences, but then the antenna suggested some Persian magicians at work.
However, it could be Indian — Modi’s Hindu Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) are very pro-Israeli for both religious and caste reasons. But so what? PE believes he has a good poker hand; so let’s see how he plays this game out.
It seems, until the dust settles, that certain states, or rogue elements thereof, have shifted Pepe Escobar from babbling Bishop (I can’t say queen) of the blog-o-sphere to useful Pawn on the Great Game chess board. A desirable upgrade? Hmmm, … I hope he does not end up in a cell next to Julian Assange. He’s on a razor-edge here in risking giving away state secrets across about three vectors.
PE is in Rio de Janeiro at the moment and one would assume that he will have a ‘chat’ with Lula on some matters of BRICS interest. Roving reporter to roving diplomat? Personally I will await his next post and (hopefully) an explanation. At the moment I take it, with salt, as a “War of Hypotheticals.”
I still cannot see who benefits. Dragging Russia in is a cheap shot. Little doubt they are working in the background from the Syrian and Iranian angle but it would be more a BRICS-SCO level. If things heat up in the flying nuclear department then perhaps Moscow gets to put a “Peace Maker” S400 unit on the disputed Golan Heights?
Other than that I see little interest value for Moscow. And on current educated conjecture speculation levels, I’d have to say that if Iran wished to set up the EMP narrative contexts for a ‘justified’ domestic policy shift towards that direction then this recent PE ‘leak’ does not undermine such a move.
Consider recent events; Russia’s announcement that it will begin nuclear drills, Putin’s statement that those who interfere (in Ukraine) will become targets, the UK, French ambassadors called to the Kremlin, the German ambassador returning home for instructions…all these events supposedly caused by Macron babbling about sending in French troops, given they are there already? I don’t know if that really is the reason.
Could these actions by Russia have been caused by Israel launching a nuclear enabled EMP strike attempt on Iran? Iran that Russia is sworn to protect? That seems to me a more likely cause for the above actions. Look forward to hearing more from Pepe.
One gets the ‘feeling’ that there is more to K’s article. More like a bit of a hatchet job on PE?
“I hope he does not end up in a cell next to Julian Assange.”
Amen to that.
Whatever PE’s mix of raconteur & journalist, noone deserves what poor JA has suffered.