I apologize in advance for subjecting you to the following clip from CNN. It has the video of Putin I wanted to share but, unfortunately, is followed up by commentary by two of the dumbest, most dishonest pundits in America — retired Army General Mark Hertling and retired CIA Officer Steve Hall (one of my former classmates in the Career Trainee program). With no sense of irony or shame, both Hertling and Hall accuse Putin of lying. That is rich. Hall, if you recall, was one of the 51 “former” intelligence officers who falsely claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop was some wicked, Bolshi plot. This is the ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black. Look in the mirror, Steve.
Putin’s expletive directed at the United States (i.e., it is more properly translated as “Fuck You” then “Shove It” according to Andrei Martyanov) is out of character for Putin, who normally presents a very reserved demeanor and circumspect language when doing the public thing. Not this time. He did not mince words and betrayed a growing level of frustration with U.S. bullying and abuses. Russia is at war with the United States and will conduct itself accordingly.
Putin’s Kremlin spokesman, Peskov, hammered this point home with a succinct statement — the war between the Russian Federation and the West has actually begun.
The CNN clip is representative of the blatant lies being fed to the American public. The mendacious crap presented by Hertling and Hall is not atypical. Their commentary reflects the disinformation that is universally spread in the establishment media, both electronic and print.
In a subsequent meeting with representatives of several African nations trying to to broker a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, Putin again minced no words in condemning the refusal of Ukraine and its Western allies to bargain in good faith. Putin made several key points:
All the problems in Ukraine began after the state, nonconstitutional, armed and bloody coup in Ukraine in 2014. And this coup was supported by Western sponsors. As a matter of fact, they are not ashamed to say so. They even named the amount of money that they spent on the preparation and implementation of this coup d’état.”
Putin then made some news as he delved into the details of the failed negotiations with Ukraine in April 2022. For the first time Putin showed the negotiated document of agreement, initialed by the Ukrainian negotiator, and explained that as a show of good faith Russia withdrew its tanks that were deployed on the northern border of Kiev in April. This exposes the lie that the Ukrainians “forced” the Russians to retreat. Nope. The Russians pulled back their tanks as part of the anticipated peace deal. That agreement was sabotaged by Western intervention — Zelensky was pressured to back away and he did.
The following video clips show Putin scoring some important points with the African delegation.
I think it is fair to conclude that Putin and his national security team have zero confidence or trust in any negotiation proposals advanced by Ukraine or the West.
After the betrayals of, let’s see
“NATO won’t expand”
Iraq invasion
Libya bombing
Minsk I and II
Withdrawal from ABM treaty, Open Skies treaty, INFT treaty
all just in this century;
after calling the west “non agreement capable” several years ago;
Putin still got taken to the cleaners by his Western “partners” in March last year.
Looks like the lesson might have finally gone home.
If so, better late than nothing.
You forgot Serbia being bombed for months.
AND UNSC Res 1244
And what was it bombed over…Racak? A few dozen militants regarbed as civilians and uncovered by an el salvadorian fixer ?
Real civilians in Donbass being slaughtered for 9 years by that lovely, freedom-loving terrorist state of Pukraine.
To be fair Bis made clear he was giving examples from this century only. To include the USA’s crimes of the previous two centuries would take too long…. how much time do you have?
I wrote “just in this century”.
Had the perpetrators of 9/11 not been motivated to hold off operations into this current century while NATO was operating as the secessionist KLA’s air force, then you’d have to have excluded Afghanistan as well.
I trust that needs no further explanation.
This important fact tends to get overlooked by many yet its one of the reasons that the Russian security apparatus decided to give Clinton’s drunk friend Yeltsin the flick and push Putin to lead a new Russia free from Western ‘reforms’ that nearly crippled her!.
You forgot the unanimously adopted UNSC Res 2202.
Most of the USA is brsinwashed into thinking there is only one side to the story, USA and Ukraine good, Russia very bad, I find that is the majority view among Trump supporters and certainly a big majority of democrats have as strong support for Ukraine and funding their fight with Russia.
Bodybags landing from Europe would soften their views but of course that is not an on off switch.
I believe the grounds for war are being prepared, a combination of deliberate and by accident and the US and Europe are ignorant of the consequences-for now.
It is shocking how unaware people are of this danger but I suppose many wars look like that.
“Putin still got taken to the cleaners…”
When was that? if anything, all the deceit and double dealings from the West show Putin as a man of integrity to the world.
CNN is the real “Bay of Pigs.”
Indeed.
To overcome deceit and and double-dealings with integrity, intelligence and strategy requires a level of patience, preparation and self-mastery that many of the “analysers” of President Putin out here wouldn’t know the first thing about.
It is easy enough to “win” anything by talking and posting.
Biswapriya Purkayastha says
”Russia has zero trust in any negotiation proposals advanced by Ukraine or the West.
After the betrayals of, let’s see:”
My comment (expanded list):
NATO expanded east of the Oder river – NATO bombed Serbia – NATO invaded Iraq – NATO invaded Afghanistan – NATO bombed Libya – The US conducted proxy war on Syria – The US instigated a bloody coupe in Ukraine – NATO equipped and trained the NAZI attack on civilians in Donbass – The US conducted a proxy war on Yemen – The US conducted a proxy war on Sudan – NATO betrayed the Minsk I and II agreements – The US and UK betrayed the Taiwan agreement – The leaders of NATO Betrayed their mandate (to lead a Defense alliance) – The US canceled the ABM treaty – The Open Skies treaty – The INFT treaty.
Biswapriya Purkayastha says
”after calling the west non agreement capable several years ago, Putin still got taken to the cleaners by his Western partners in March last year. Looks like the lesson might have finally gone home.
My comment:
The expression “western Partners” was a fancy word used by western leaders for decades to lure Russian and China into the Globalist Agenda. However that scam is now definitively dead.
But as you notice from my expanded list above, it is not only Russia who has been attacked by the NATO Mob. There is practically not a continent on the globe which has not felt the aggressions of NATO Nations.
The difference between mob leaders and a world leader is that a World leader has to stay on the moral high ground, in order to gain support from the rest of the world. Putin knows that, and follows that path.
However the leaders of the West are so full of Hubris that they don’t care.
As a result National leaders from all over the globe are traveling to Moscow, not to Washington.
The one who holds the moral high ground will be victorious, in this this war.
The ones who can’t be trusted will loose big time.
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false”? Willian Casey, CIA Director
Spoken to Ronald Reagan, shortly after Alzheimer’s Ronnie took power. Perhaps Casey figured selected-puppet Ronnie wouldn’t remember the conversation, and everyone else in the room would be too scared to talk. This quote has been 100% verified, despite efforts to posit other “explanations” that it didn’t happen.
The US gov’t lies. Period. As Scott Ritter said in his latest (well founded) rant, if you assume they are lying, everything makes a LOT more sense.
The purpose of the lies is only partly to spread false info. It is also to make the “truth” seem complicated and unobtainable for the masses, leading the average awakening voter to declare no one can be trusted, no matter how much proof is offered. Indeed, picking the cleanest political dirty shirt is getting more difficult by the day.
Again, those in “Western” governments/business lie for their own personal benefit. So the consequences for that must also be made personal, starting at the top. I think Putin’s “we know where you live” message was not just for Zelensky’s crowd, but also for the Rothschild Class puppet masters. He won’t bomb Davos or Bilderburg meetings, the Rothschilds know to only send/invite loyal/brainwashed functionaries to these shindigs. Rothschilds having Macron openly questioning the EU/US “relationship” over Ukraine shows that there is a multi-layered schism between the Rothschilds, the Nuland Cabal plus rogue elements of Schwab’s WEF/Great Reset acolytes, and the US Uniparty. Freeland must be on the horns of a dilemma, does she stay loyal to the Rothschilds/Soros or grab for more power with Nuland? Freeland is no longer the heir apparent for NATO head, so she must be on the outs with the Biden crowd.
Nuland’s “Fuck the EU” was a slap at the Rothschilds, when Soros was unquestionably in the Rothschild camp. The Soros brats may have grander ideas than the old man.
Putin replies, telling the the whole lot of them to “get screwed”. He knows all of the above miscreants will forget their differences, at least as far as attempting to smear Putin as “murdering” the “patriotic” Ukraine soldiers and “draftees” literally forced to the front at gunpoint.
Anyone thinking Trump has the mental, political acumen and connections to deconstruct the Deep State(s) is not paying attention to his past amateurish shenanigans. Trump hired competent professionals to run his business scams, a paragon of shady bankruptcy accounting and scraping past the intent of the tax code. His latest ravings show he hasn’t learned much.
The Nuland Cabal is now in “destroy and destabilize what you can, while you can” mode, preparing to slide back into the Deeper Swamp out of public view for later backstabbing. What ARE Rove and that generation of Deep State slimeballs up to these days?
The Rothschilds/WEFers want to back off and salvage what they can of their endless Pinky and the Brain act, while the US Uniparty Administration can’t tell its ass from its elbow.
How else can you explain Miley and Austin playing the latest equivalent of the Powell Yellowcake Scam or the “babies thrown from Incubators” PR hack-job? They know they are lying, we know they are lying, and they know we know they are lying… The substance of the lies is not important, what is fundamental to the Authoritarian Dictator Wannabe’s is to destroy the public’s trust in the gov’t, the politicians, the courts, the police, the medical system, their neighbours and even their religions.
All of these clowns deserve to be RATIONALLY evaluated for their lies, but collectively the BLOB wants us to fall for a false promise… “You will own nothing… and be happy.” This is not the shiny Star Trek future they appear to offer, it is a return to serfdom, or worse.
The Rothschilds, Nuland Cabal and US Uniparty Deep State are just fighting over who will be in charge of what is left.
The real nugget in the CNN video occurs after the 6 minute mark. Russian nukes are valuable to Putin and Russia only as a bluff because they will probably perform as badly as his military which is not at all and therefore they`re nothing to worry about. This is exactly the kind of hubris which leads to catastrophy. This is what I am most fearfull of.
Russian military intervention in Ukraine was also a bluff… until it wasn’t.
Just my opinion but people like Nuland are worker ants that follow orders from their tribe.
The likes of Nuland, a petty (mass murdering) US politician is nowhere near the heights of Lord Jacob Rothschild.
And if she ever makes the mistake that she is….then she is dead.
Any assassinations (or “accidents”) at such an openly public figure will not happen, as these cannot be reasonably “sold” to the Diplomatic Rest Of The World as Russian operations. If Putin publicly says Zelensky is not a target for elimination, how could the Rothschild case be made for offing Nuland et.al.? Russia is using Sun Tzu’s playbook, not interrupting the Bribems and Nulands while they are making mistakes by the literal trainload.
Rothschild-man Macron’s statements that the EU needs to re-examine its relationship to US war policy shows that the US NeoCon Cabal AND the Bribem Administration are operating outside what the Rothschilds wanted. I guess it’s difficult to watch a couple centuries of careful, hard-won planning and skullduggery to be exposed and trashed by a bunch of self-important Johnny-come-lately’s. The Bribem Clan will be in the Rothschild doghouse for not reining in the Blinken/Nuland Lunatic Cabal on Ukraine before it was too late to change course.
It may be that the Bribem Clan are too busy trying to keep Sleepy Joe in the Oval Office to tackle the NeoCons, especially the loss of face in the voter’s eyes due to yet another debacle. It is definitely the least complicated option for the US Uniparty to keep Joe and Kamala where they are, as McCarthy isn’t the “saviour” they had hoped to calm the dysfunctional tempest until 2024. Joe running in 2024 is just idiot icing on a lunatic cake.
The blood and impoverishment/dislocation of millions of Ukrainians is on US/ZATO/EU hands and the vassal states are not liking what they got involved in. The NeoCons assumed the Rothschilds would have their back, no matter what, at least until the NeoCon full take-over of the Rothschild Agenda was complete. It is beginning to appear the Rothschilds are mightily pissed at the NeoCons for spoiling their nice new WW3 rattle. Unfortunately, the NeoCons are the tail wagging the Pentagon/ZATO dog, and the Rothschilds are powerless to stop them. So the Rothschilds convince various emissaries to sue for peace in an attempt to freeze the Ukraine war and rebuild their WEF Pinky and the Brain agenda.
It’s not working. Putin is being transparent where the US/ZATO and their rogue NeoCons are most exposed in their incessant lies.
Nuland is a vengeful psychotic. In a recent softball interview she was asked if there was any truth to what was being said of her, that she pushes this war more than anyone else. She blithely smiled and replied that all hostilities would cease if only Putin pulled back to pre 2/2022 borders.
Nothing at all about the resentment of Russia that she was fed growing up, her dedication to learning fluent Russian, the language of her future target population, her festering in Odessa as a recent college graduate on the clever pretext of a children’s camp counselor, her entry into the .gov system and worming her way up the State Department ladder because no requirements for intelligence or statecraft were required then or now but still provided access to international decisions, her meddling with Kiev elections to suit herself and her gigolos, her blatant disregard and disrespect for her allies in the EU, her participation in the 2014 Kiev chaos which provoked widespread violence and death, which spread to Odessa in a horrific, deliberate mass murder by fire in a building deliberately sealed for that purpose, and now in the fullness of time her depraved dreams have come true albeit without the swift victory she expected, and when asked about her participation she demures and blames Putin.
What a psychopath.
That wench should be bagged and tagged for a feral hog and dumped off in Red Square but absent that the next best thing would be admittance as a permanent inpatient in a hospital for the criminally insane.
Thankfully due to Russia/Putin’s strategic actions and diplomacy- the evil bastards are left to fight over control of only the rapidly collapsing west.
With each passing day the “rest” of the world becomes less influenced and controlled by the western colonialists.
The 🐑 of the west can face the results of their self centered lifestyles and arrogant attitudes.
Reminds me of pathological liars – like Tommy Flanagan on SNL – lie even about good news that is true just to keep in practice.
Poor countries getting shafted by the “Grain deal” is another addition to the betrayals.
The “grain deal” was intended to off-load all the Blackrock/US/Bribem financed grain out of Ukraine before it was seized along with the rest of Ukraine. The Ukie-Nazis needed to generate some actual income… to pay their corporate/political overlords, as well as fill their own pockets before the impending End of Ukraine.
The majority of that grain was never actually destined for “poor nations”, who really can’t afford it at Blackrock prices, especially as the USAid-type bribes to tinpot leaders are drying up. And it may be that the “poor nations” don’t want this grain, as there are reports some of it may be contaminated and unsuitable for human consumption.
Russia went along with the Grain Deal to show a benevolent face while under existential attack, also giving the lying “West” more rope to hang themselves. Sun Tzu strikes again.
Apparently Putin and Xi have decided to end the centuries-old Rothschild Project To Rule The World once and for all, if the Rothschilds carry on supporting the latest US/ZATO insanity. Perhaps that was part of the message Macron carried after his meeting with Xi. So Macron de Rothschild chirps 180 degrees from the previous EU/ZATO position.
Putin and Xi know better than anyone that “All wars are bankers’ wars.” If only the US had paid attention to Smedley Butler…
The west offers peace if all Russian daughters become prostitutes.
Bring on the carpet bombing, swing in from the North for the pincer.
..take down all the infrastructure to the polish border.
Deuteronomy 13:15-16
15 you shall surely strike the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, [a]utterly destroying it and all that is in it and its cattle with the edge of the sword. 16 Then you shall gather all its booty into the middle of its open square and burn the city and all its booty with fire as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God; and it shall be a [b]ruin forever. It shall never be rebuilt.
How considerate to let me know all this. We all want to be in on the character of the conversations. We want to know who gets our allegiance & who gets our swift boot out of the assembly. Sandy Rinaldi, Arkansas, US Army veteran 1971 to 1974, today 17 JUN 23
NYT: “The Russian army is learning from its mistakes and changing tactics.”
I think this is how the night watch might have warned the captain of the Titanic in enough time to steer away from the iceberg looming ahead.
It could also be how one begins gently unwrapping years of rah rah Ukraine rhetoric, explaining why your team was failing and hopefully avoiding too much egg on one’s face.
Hi Pogo
FYI. Capt Smith was in on the scam – insurance fraud. The ship that went down on April 14, 1912 was the OLYMPIC. You can see her original nameplates in latest videos of the wreck.
But hey, it all ties together – White StarLine was owned by JP Morgan, and you know who he worked for. What’s 1200 dead when lucre is on the line? Oh well, their days are numbered. Read Revelation
That’s BS that has already been debunked.
The Olympic had a different superstructure than Titanic.
Titanic had a design that could be improved upon like all prototypes.
Olympic and Brittanic had the newer design, nothing major, mainly cosmetic.
Finding the wreck at the bottom of the sea confirmed it was Titanic.
Yeah. Smith was in on the scam to drown himself and end his career in death and ignominy.
Right.
The West has to lie, to rationalize the absurdities on which its cultural assumptions are based. “We are winning but we are losing”. This is Schrodinger’s Offensive. The cat is alive and dead. But you don’t know if you don’t open the box. Oh! The box is glass and the cat is dead, which you could have assumed because it had no air. So what to do? Don’t look? Pretend he is sleeping. Or distract attention away from the box.
That makes negotiation impossible:
“Absurdism rejects even the possibility of debate.” (FRANCES BABBAGE)
My article on the failure of the “CounterOffensive” here;
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/schrodingers-offensive
The wind up dolly on the left still thinks Mariupol hasn’t fallen.
That’s a very excellent article with great links to other great websites. Thank you.
“A lying liar who lies a lot”
(waiting to stop laughing before I write a comment)
Still can’t figure out what today’s lie was. Anybody?
Oh, now I understand. Had to hit the play button to continue.
“It’s all maskerooooofka! I just made his lies go up in poofka!”
Larry, you really did have to subject us to these three idiots?
You have to share my pain.
Touché
So Larry, if he knows that a 10:1 ratio is a big fat lie, made by a big fat lying liar, then he must know what the real ratio is.
So, why doesn’t he say?
(yeah, it’s a rhetorical question)
FYI….
The real ratio is 10 KIA Ukies : 1 KIA Russian……
20 WIA Ukies : 1 WIA Russian…..
Putin said the real ratio……
You are in denial….
INDY
The real ratio is 10 KIA Ukies : 1 KIA Russian……
And you should brush up on the meaning of ‘rhetorical’, doc. Then look up ‘obtuse’. Then expand your horizons further with ‘sarcasm’. One should never stop learning.
The question is how do these western pundits live with their consciences?
In my culture, only children tell stupid and blatant lies!
What would make grownups, professionals to boot, descend so pathetically low to come on television and tell lies that are so blatantly false??
I don’t know if I should feel sorry for the people who are forced to listen to these stupid punditries, but I think every matured adult should be able to ask simple questions like : If the Russian army is such hopelessly incompetent why has the mighty Ukrainian forces unable to roll over them?
psychopaths have no conscience and no good faith
i think this is the last,most desperate stage in Western psychopaths’ gaslighting:
accusing honourable people of gaslighting
extreme psychopathic projection by the most predatory psychopaths the world has ever seen
As Upton Sinclair wisely opined, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”
Faced with a choice between integrity and job security, our pundits overwhelmingly choose the spineless latter.
There’s a very similar quote from a senior oncologist way back in the late 1960s.
He was high up in the Californian National Cancer Institute and we was being interviewed about allopathic (toxic) cancer treatments versus the more gentle natural treatments.
His comment was on the question why has there been no advance in cancer cure rates despite all the billions that have been fed into research.
“It’s hard for a man to find a cure for cancer when his whole career depends on him NOT finding a cure for cancer.”
Femi,
These people live in Washington DC, where lying is a fundamental survival skill.
Femi, because these people have no integrity and will read any script put in front of them for $$$$$$$$$$$$$
“In my culture, only children tell stupid and blatant lies!”
And in their culture they think all others tell stupid lies all of the time, and all “non-whites” are children.
That is one of the consequences of interpreting “alienation” as “individual choice” thereby being complicit in their own transcendence – although Mr. Chomsky offers a different explanation that: My country doesn’t tell lies, because to tell lies you need to know the truth.
I think you need to project a couple of western moves into the future:
The ‘enormous Russian losses’ meme has several very handy purposes, one of which is an eventual ritual throwing in of the towel:
‘Well, we gave those russkies a bloody good nose and one heck of a show. Bully for us. Now’s the time for a well deserved rest.”
I think I’d like to call it the ‘satiated blood lust’ closing gambit.
They consider themselves to be better and more important than the rest of us in that anything they must do regardless of what the people want is justified because they are the smart ones. The sick part is that they actually believe it.
” I think every matured adult should be able to ask simple questions like : If the Russian army is such hopelessly incompetent why has the mighty Ukrainian forces unable to roll over the”
Most won’t because they don’t think critically. Lazy fat bodies housing lazy fat brains.
They never asked why, if the clot shot is so effective, then why do we need to take another (and another…) because it’s not effective?
Yes Femi, you have asked one question that sits out there, unasked, like a sore thumb – why haven’t the Ukrainian Army, highly trained (or was that a largish percentage of the dearly departed first army from last year?) armed with some of the ‘best’ equipment the West possess pushed the poorly led, unmotivated, poorly equipped, Russian Army at least out of the Donbass? Aren’t they quietly asking that round the dinner table in the West by now ??? d
We have Biden and Fetterman. They have Putin.
Is there a more telling comparison between Russian and the USA?
I’ll raise you a Dianne Feinstein.
I’ll raise you Victoria Nuland.
I’m all in with Lindsey Graham
All in with trips of Tony blinky, loyld Austin and Jake Sully. Let’s see them cards!
My money is on the man behind the curtain, he’s my trump card…_
I’ll raise you Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Keir Starmer.
Why not… I raise Freeland, Trudeau and Singh, along with other “former” Brit colony minders like Ardern in New Zealand and the current Rothschild/WEF puppet Albanese in Australia.
Carlin was wrong, it’s actually quite a small club, made to appear BIG to scare us into submission.
Putin has climbed the beanstalk, ignored the fe-fi-fo-fum and has destroyed the golden harp used to put the masses to sleep. The Rest Of The World has noticed and are joining in the new chorus of freedom and peace. But we still have to toss the giant off the cloud.
See you (Hi Dave) and put down Ursula von der Lying, the Liver-wurst Man and the NATO Snake Stallingberk.
+Blighty had the now exposed consummate, ignominious liar, Boris the Hog, Russian hater extraordinaire.
His latest replacement being a yes man, three bags full, rich man stooge.
Was the comment “Иди на хуй.”? Hard to get it as the translater was talking over him and the original seemed more muted. If so, that is somewhat strong response!
Gloves are coming off, sunshine.
The most telling part of it all is the interviewer, Dmitri Simes, who wrapped up his role with the Center for the National Interest, prob out of deep frustration and whose son Dmitri is interestingly enough with Sputnik Radio.
I’ll just bet that Simes understands Biden is diddling with doomsday and hopes to make a difference somehow.
He said “хреном”, which I believe is meant as short for
“за каким хреном”, meaning “why the hell” (would we talk about reductions)
See https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NIpw0OLYGX0 at around 3h22
Maybe a native speaker could confirm?
The middle finger at 3:22:18 is unintentional, but hilarious.
It’s not easy by ethical reasons, but I’ll try to explain.
Only for the sake of mutual understanding between peoples.
Russian equivalent for English “fuck you!” translates from Russian as “a fuck to you!”.
Normally, in the Russian World, you will hardly be able to see this expression in written form, much less said publicly by any official, because it is so mentally rude for a Russian person.
The president Putin said “хрен им!” which is a sanitized substitute similar to “frack them!” instead of “fuck them!”.
Meaning that the West will get “a horseradish” instead of reducing our nuclear potential, where we now have a significant advantage.
Formally “хрен” = a horseredish as well as an informal folk equivalent for a phallus.
But what I myself am interested in is what exactly was said instead of “хрен им!” in simultaneous translation from Russian into English for all foreign guests of the forum?
Not easy task for the translator 🙂
My wife is Russian and she said pretty much the same as you did.
What Putin said is hard to translate directly into the English language but the root word is “penis” or “root growth” followed by a typical Russian “ending” of the word.
So roughly translated it is a combination of penis and the middle finger salute. LOL
Best American translation: “to hell with them.”
хрен replacing хер (as in shoot for shit) to soften the exclamation. Using хер would be equivalent in crudeness to “fuck them.”
The auto-generated captions in on the video link you provided do say”хреном,” however” Andrei’s video on his website ‘Reminiscence of the Future ‘ in his 17 June SitRep give better context and shows a screen caption from a RF website with what he really said in the context of answereing a question about further negotiations with OTAN which was “хрен им”.
хреном is horseraddish. That explains Andrei’s picture.
shortened to хрен, it is a rude idiom for male anatomy and used for other rude idioms, and is intetchangeable with хуй if forming such expressions. The one is thought it might be from the crapnewznet vid means ‘go f*** yourself. Think was on the right track, as expalined below.
Now the screen capture at 23:05 in Andrei’s vid and goingh back ~1min and listening to next couple of minutes gives better context to what “хрен им” means, which can be translated as ‘f*** them.’
Certainly ‘shove it’ is a way to make the response more palatable for translation, but grossly minimizes the comment and position of the RF.
The real meaning is quite strong, and something far beyond a measured diplomatic expression of disapproval or dismissal. It elicited gasps from the crowd, along with some laughter and applause.
Wonder if the intended group the comment was dirrected towards is listening and if anyone is capable of understanding….
Yeah, interesting timez….
“Wonder if the intended group the comment was dirrected towards”
Yes the intended group gasped likely about context, then laughed and applauded, leaving others who seek to assign a significance to themselves not shared by others in “wonder”, as is their normal reaction which they try to bridge (over troubled water) by belief and interpret notices of intent as ultimata.
Nope. Martyanov talks about it in the linked video. He says “hren im”, literally meaning “horseradish them”. It should be a common phrase, because he adds “as our people say”.
I’ve just tried Google Translate:
“horseradish them” translates to “хрен им”
“хрен им” translates to “fuck them”
“fuck them” translates to “трахни их”
This remainded me of an old anecdote about automatic translation. Someone translated “The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak” to Russian and back. The result was “The vodka is good, but the meat is rotten”. Nowdays they have improved a bit.
“Idi na hui” is what Snake Island Defenders said to Russians ship in Zelesky Cinematic Universe.
“Idi na hui”
That is part of a limited male response – another added flavouring being pasholte – giving pasholte na hui, but wrong in context since the “Snake Island Defenders” proved to have deficits of hui.
The Russian lexicon of “swearing” is big and translation is impossible, only interpretation as in all communication, thereby rendering propaganda attempts by almost all ultra vires (beside the point without advising where is the point that the “receipients” will interpret for themselves).
Google translate sucks. Use Yandex. I’ve even heard Google use Americans to pronounce Russian words. Great for a laugh but not much else).
Besides, you’ll rarely get accurate idiomatic translations out of either.
Go to a site for Russian swear words.
I know. I did for laugs.
Russians are Jedi level trollers.
Watched a video about sanctions mocking the Europstan rump vassal “leaders” and Joetato, another round morphs into round in circles with an agitated HR gimp storming out of the pee wee brain storm session.
I recently signed back up to twitter after being kicked off during the Jan.6 purge. There is a really good thread by Armchair Warlord @ArmchairW “Putin HATES it! How NATO tried to use ONE WEIRD TRICK to destroy the Russian Army!” Well worth the time to read, not one of my crazy lab/organ harvesting posts 😉
From the Western perspective control the narrative and control the reality that their populations believe they exist in. The US is in no danger of direct war with Russia, the EU is a different matter, but they are just pawns on the board like Ukraine. If the US claimed Uke troops were approaching Moscow then most of the population would believe it, in fact a Ukrainian surrender can be sold as a Russian surrender when the time finally comes. Truth is irrelevant when you completely control the media.
Alt Media exposing the lies on YouTube only reaches and is believed by a small percentage of the population, if any gained too much traction then expose them as pedophiles, racists or criminals. Mud sticks and sticks well, the show rolls on.
As far as I know Putin clearly said that the USA would be hit in case of a war with the NATO.
But you are right: In the USA, no one knows what war is like, except those veterans that hat to go to the war.
Going to war overseas is nothing like war coming to your hometown.
The US (and their devious cousins, the Brits) are most certainly at risk. Lavrov, for one, recently stated this.
If I lived in either I’d leave.
Just watch that few minutes of CNN, god that was painful, I don’t think I have watched any American media since Biden came to office, I live in a western country an ally of America and I can’t watch our news which is just a regurgitation of American lies but no way presented as painfully as you poor Americans are fed the bullish*t. It is just ridiculous unless you get grip of these Neocons who run America you have every chance of getting into a real war with a superior adversary who will whip your ass.
I stopped cable news watching years ago (BT. – before Tucker). Tucker was the only one on the MSM worth watching and now he’s gone. No real reason to have cable.
Good piece. Consider-
1. We are seeing the accelerating decline of late-stage American capitalism whose very survival is dependent on debt monetization (aka money printing). US government debt levels just surpassed $32 trillion and are expected to continue growing.
2. American taxpayers have shelled out over $21 trillion on post-911 militarization; the result- strategic debacles in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen.
3. As Andrei Martyanov (http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/) has repeatedly pointed out, the ‘Pentagon has NO concept whatsoever of modern air-defense because it doesn’t have one.’ Should NATO pilots enter the Ukraine theater, they will be shot down just like their Ukrainian counterparts. Joe Biden and the ruling elite he represents are facing a strategic debacle in Ukraine. As a result, Biden has no ‘off ramp’, and has backed himself into a proverbial corner with no escape route, violating a fundamental tenet of Sun Tzu’s Art of War. Indeed, after investing so much financial and political capital into his proxy war in Ukraine, Biden is incapable extricating himself from this conflict, as doing so is a continuation of the $2 trillion/2-decade long debacle in Afghanistan, clearly showing the limits of American military power. Further, any US retreat from Ukraine puts into question the very survival of NATO.
4. As we have seen, the US/NATO has supplied Ukraine with hundreds of $ billions of taxpayer ‘aid’, including tanks, missiles, including depleted uranium, and most recently F16 jet fighter aircraft along with reckless and dangerous provocations, such as blowing up the Nord Stream energy pipelines in Sept, 2022.
4. Michael Rubin, a ‘senior fellow’ at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) has recommended the Biden administration supply Ukraine with nuclear weapons (See-
https://slaynews.com/news/biden-called-give-nuclear-weapons-ukraine/). No doubt, Rubin’s views are reflective of a significant faction of the US ruling elite.
Alea iacta est (L. ‘The die is cast’).
I would call it late stage fascism or financial fascism. There is nothing capital about it, just a lot of soon to be worthless paper that has no real wealth(capital) backing it.
Yes, In the economic sense, Fascism is the pretense of private property with the requirement that it can only be disposed of in the government’s service. That is why American corporations are destroying themselves going woke in public despite the disapproval of their customers. Capitalism, has always been the Communist smear word for free enterprise, which is what most people assume capitalism is synonymous with.
“free enterprise”
If it is free enterprise how is the enterprise sustainable?
Maybe you didn’t get your coffee yet. “Free” means free of government control, no “free” as in without cost.
@ mike fink
Related to Larry…Fink…?
I guess he/she means that no free enterprise is currently profitable without public intervention in funding, that is the so called “public-private partnership” and “stakeholder capitalism”…which is this engender in which has turned tardocapitalism…
All these euphemism act as cover for socialization of loses while privatisation of gains, and is in effect since the 2008 crisis…
The current offensive against european agricultors, masked under the so called “Nature Recovery Law” promoted from the European Comission, has no other goal that making them subsidiaries of the foreign transnational corporations so that the latter pocket gains and the agricultors face the loses…
This is a huge scam and organized robbery which is the plan of the elites to keep going ….
“Free enterprise” and “free market” means that they are not controled by government, but by small group of very rich people, aka oligarchs, aka robber barrons, aka billionaires, aka “philantriphists”. They also control politicians, and media, and minds of idiots that believe in nonsense like “free enterprise” and “free market”.
MirrorGazers says
18 June 2023 at 10:59
“free enterprise”
If it is free enterprise how is the enterprise sustainable?
mike fink says (within an hour illustrating lack of patience and likely a degree ofemotional engagement) on
18 June 2023 at 11:51
Maybe you didn’t get your coffee yet. “Free” means free of government control, no “free” as in without cost (which is assumed to be restricted to assigned “monetary value”.)
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/06/19/world-bank-seems-to-finally-get-it/
Understandably neither mike fink nor “The World Bank” get it as a function of framing by “cost” instead of “The precautionary principle” within which they attempt to include cost -(which is assumed to be restricted to assigned “monetary value”.) -, thereby undermining “The precautionary principle” which is endemic/epidemic in the coercive social relations ridiculously self -designated as “The United States of America” in hope of obfuscating “The Alienated states of America”.
freedumb says
18 June 2023 at 16:16
Being dumb is not free of consequences as illustrated above even if not perceived.
“They also control politicians, and media, and minds of idiots that believe in nonsense like “free enterprise” and “free market”.”
They think they do as a function of immersion within linear paradigms as a function of their “strategic purpose”, thereby partly facilitating their complicity in co-operation of facilitating lateral opportunities of their transcendence for others not restricted to minimising blowback.
Dumb has many uses – don’t complain as Mr. Rove hoped.
I don’t understand how you can blithely talk about “debt monetization (aka money printing)” in your first sentence and then turn around and talk about taxpayers “shelling out” trillions in the next. It seems obvious to me that “American taxpayers” are not funding the military adventures, the money printing is funding them.
Larry,
I am really beginning to wonder about the bizarre nature of the Western propaganda and who the real target audience is:
1] I don’t think the Western elites give a hoot about anyone in non-elite circles being deceived, we/they are just collateral damage, to be managed by the next news cycle, Kardashian family distraction or electioneering scheme.
2] They DO CARE about what Ukrainians think about the war. If the Ukrainian population turns against the war, they won’t be able to fight it. Therefore, the Ukraine propaganda machine runs 24/7 with the most bald-faced lies, and because the internet has global reach, Western media MUST take what Ukraine says verbatim. You can’t have the BBC contradicting Ukrainian propaganda, or Ukrainians will get two different messages and quickly discern the truth. Therefore Western media sources are in a straight-jacket, beholden to the Ukrainian ministry of propaganda.
3] They DO CARE about what the rest of the Western elites think about the war. If one takes the time to peruse journals like Foreign Policy, Foreign Affairs Magazine & National Interest, they are filled with articles that take the Western/Ukrainian narrative at face value. One can assume they are doing this knowingly …but I don’t think so. Here is an article by Larry Summers, in FOREIGN AFFAIRS, about Russia needing to pay reparations after the Ukrainian victory:
The Other Counteroffensive to Save Ukraine
https://archive.is/vLQ9Z
Obviously Summers is completely getting his information from mainstream Western sources. Or, did he put that whole piece out as a propaganda product? Not likely.
So, given all that, are Victoria Nuland, Anthony Blinken & Jake Sullivan going to walk into Larry Summers’ office and tell Larry Summers (and the rest of their elite circle) that hey really “screwed the pooch” by inciting this war? I don’t think so …and to avoid that, they will put that moment off for as long as possible and do whatever they can to forestall it all together.
“the real target audience is:”
Those paying the fee primarily, but tangentally those who are doing the Mr. Rove We are an Empire Dance.
It is widely believed and preached in America, mostly by politicians (wonder why), that what a person does in private is that person’s own business and by extension does not affect nor influence what that person does person does in public.
That, my friends, has got to be the biggest crock of shit ever invented in the cracks and crevices of hell! We are what we are, in private and in public, we do and think and say exactly what our psyche is made of.
Take that “fact” to the political realm and you’ll understand why no amount of written paper can make those who sign that paper truthful. So, we are now on the verge of WWIII, thanks to this inconvenient truth, that is avoided by politicians like the plague, that they are what they are in private and in public, i.e., unabashed, pathological liars…!
“has got to be the biggest crock of shit ever invented”
No.
It is “We the people hold these truths to be self-evident” – it has lasted “the test of time”.
Liar, liar, pants on fire. Fuck me that was hard to watch! CNN is on 24/7 in every waiting room in Ireland but thankfully I don’t need to wait for anything or anyone.
Can somebody over in the US put that propaganda cult to sleep. They would achieve sainthood and a forever remembered heroic legacy.
Funny you mention that. I just today had a daydream that I was in a waiting room with CNN’s talking heads blathering away in the corner and I threw a shoe at them. 😉
Why are they not playing Irish broadcasts?
That’s a gorgeous country, by the way. And the roadside art is good too. And lovely people.
I gather that Larry and most commentators posting here share the general view that Russia is going to obtain all of its objectives in the Ukraine. If so, has anybody given thought as to what happens next in other areas of the world? For example, does a US “loss” (I hate sports analogies for war) in Ukraine at all change whether the US can pull coups in Latin America without having Russia, China, Iran, etc. to either prevent those coups or counter them with their own coups? Is Australia still likely to blindly follow US policy with respect to Asia? Will Israel? (from what I gather, Netanyahu seems to have better relationships with Putin and Lavrov than he does with Blinken and Biden–does that make a difference)?
Just curious if anyone has any insights
No insight, except imo this would be death of TINA. Thinking there are or might be alternatives would be a game changer even without knowing yet what they are.
Maybe countries afraid of being invaded (again) might invite an alt polar to set up a small mil base? Or shift trade to the east using non-dollar transactions, already well started? Maybe renounce western debts as ‘odious’?
Certainly us has been pushing Allies to stop trading with Russ/China, apparently trying to create east and west blocks… but imo us/Canada/Mexico don’t produce enough commodities or have enough mfg to meet west demand. So even if the dollar maintains full value wrt west economies, at some point it won’t maintain a trade deficit with row. Plus, foreign sales of us munitions look to me to be taking a dive, who wants patriots when u can have s400’s?
Putin Tells the U.S. and NATO to “Shove It!”
NATO was founded in 1949 by the USA. The USSR wanted to join NATO. When NATO rejected this, six year later the USSR formed the Warsaw Pact in 1955 – as a reaction to this rejection.
(Ideologies were different, but military alliances are another matter.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxhLkwmSu98
The monstrous Stalin was not a Russian, but a Georgian, under whom the Russian population suffered the most.
Yeltsin and afterwards Putin also wanted to lead Russia into NATO.
Putin to Clinton during his visit to Moscow in 2000:
“What does America think about Russia joining NATO?
Clinton’s response was (as Putin said) “we say very reluctant.”
Putin: “If you don’t want us as friends and allies, why are you making an enemy out of us”?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/__DnpU8-20w
Why is the USA making an “enemy” out of Russia?
Because they need such an “enemy” to be able to invest even more of their national wealth in the war machinery, to become even stronger militarily, and then to dominate the whole world.
Thereby, Russia is to be smashed, and the huge Siberian mineral resources are to be plundered. That is an old USA strategic goal. It’s (almost) always about earth resources.
Even Henry Kissinger (after his retirement) stated this publicly. But the related YouTube video has been deleted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AetGRpg0p6s&list=PLpzSpevFD7qw367OhrdLRXedgPZySrOlX&index=41
John Pilger, among many others, has also reported on this:
John Pilger’s Guide To Propaganda
(54:20 main goal = to smash Russia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZZbK4Y-YM
The Verdict is Out: War between Russia and Ukraine Has a Clear Winner | Vantage with Palki Sharma
(Öl-Konzerne, 3: 49 viel über Irak-Krieg für Öl)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS6BSeW1bQc
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Most of you trust the wrong people and things too often.
You even believe a monkey named Ch. Darwin, who also declared all of you to be monkeys (many really are).
As long as you believe in it, you are, but you can stop being animals if you look deep into your souls, recognize the human being in it, and try to overcome the animal step by step.
Because of the merging of the soul with this primate body, all must feel the animal in themselves (more or less) for some decades.
Some can overcome this, but many never can, because there is nothing human in their souls.
There are also satanic souls who can abuse children, kill them and eat/ drink their flesh/ blood.
Some Satanists can stop being Satanists, but Satans never can. Many of the both categories are not aware what they are, but think they are (normal) human beings.
Humans are wonderful beings (and quite rare) who never want to harm, even the ants, but always want only to help, share, give (as much as they can).
Too many persons are abused in the worst way by their rulers and turned into monsters or zombies. Watch this video: (Humans have human guilt when they do minor “indecencies” and never want to repeat them, but the other beings …).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJQS3eLSXgA
And they make jokes, laugh, and have a great time; can sleep well, eat, drink and have any fun. Humans can never do that, never.
Isabelle Kumar (a British journalist) asked (1996) Madeleine Albright, “We heard that half a million (500,000) Iraqi children died because of the U.S. sanctions on Iraq. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And is it worth the cost”?
“I think it’s a very difficult decision,” Albright replied. “but the price is worth it to us.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8
None of them wanted to remember that sanctions against Iraq were to be removed by law if Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction.
How macabre then did Obama’s words sound in 2012 when he presented Albright with the Medal of Freedom?
That’s how much value their high prizes/awards have. So much value has those who award them as well as those who receive them.
(8000 murdered Bosniaks in Srebrenica (no women and children among them) have been judged as genocide by UN courts. Compare these 8000 with 1000 000 in Iraq and 3000 000 in Vietnam).
Not to get sidetracked but the 8,000 figure for so-called Srebrenica genocide is an inflated number used by the West to mask the real genocide carried out between 1992-1995 against 100+ surrounding Serbian hamlets, despite Srebrenica being a UN designated safe haven!
The UN Security Council Document: A/46/171, S/25635, Memorandum on War Crimes and Crimes of Genocide in Eastern Bosnia (communes of Bratunac, Skelani and Srebrenica) committed against the Serbian population from April 1992 to April 1993 lists over 3,200 Serbian victims by name whereas the Bosniak NGOs have erected a stone outside Potocari Memorial stating the complex is home to victims from 12 municipalities and 8,372… victims who’s number is incomplete..!?
One more question: do most/all European countries have to re-institute mandatory military service in the near future in reaction to Ukraine? God knows there are not enough current troops to do anything, and all of these countries have seen Russia flatten the formerly largest or second largest army in Europe without even breaking a sweat.
I apologize if the answers to these questions are obvious–for some reason, I have become fascinated with guessing how the peripheral dominoes start to fall
Doubtful they will institute mandatory military service in regards to the American proxy war in Ukraine.
Soldiers need weapons, ammunition and training.
No weapons or ammunition left and training will take longer than Russia will take to finish the cleansing of western presence and influence on Ukraine(soon to be former) territory.
They may institute martial law or conscript “security forces” as they attempt to put down the inevitable citizen revolt that will surely come once the true economic collapse hits full force.
Germany had mandatory service until some 15 years ago. Now, the barracks are mainly used for migrants. No chance to build the infrastructure for such an army again within a few years.
Other EU countries same situation.
Most of the population of serving age both in USA and EU/UK are either too uneducated or too fat or too drugged up or too woke (good on them) to be eligible for military service. So no mass conscription in the west.
The US has a spiritual problem – until Americans suffer the horrors that they have inflicted on others, they will not understand the need to change.
There is a chance that you are right …
But look us here in Europe (I guess by your name that you are Italian? I am Spanish): we have suffered the effects of fascism .. and look in which direction are we going …
Sometimes, that’s what it takes.
1000 upvotes.
You have hit the nail on the head.
Some democracy. We all voted for this? Here’s a great legal analysis of why the charges against Trump are horseshit:
https://rumble.com/v2tn4ac-get-this-video-to-trump-barnes-breaks-down-federal-indictment-viva-frei-liv.html
My worry is that even if he beats the rap and gets elected, the Deep State/Blob will still make impossible any attempt to drain the swamp.
Few days back Trump proudly said he sanctioned Venezuela and tried regime change to get to their Oil.
He aslo said he will bomb Iran if he came to power.
It’s better if he rots in jail. He will just redirect the American killing machine else where from Russia while Ukraine gets time to restock and rearm.
There are no choices among US politicians.
That’s right. The Reps and the Dems are just the two cheeks of the same putrefying capitalist arse. Tweedledum and Tweedledee. No essential difference.
Putin’s latest speech at the Saint-Petersburg economic forum reveals a classic example of what a good government is supposed to be doing with respect to development, progress and well being of the country and its citizens. That’s what Russia and its leadership is doing right now and that’s why people around the world admire and love Vladimir Putin of Russia. Unlike the nowadays Western cowboy financial business model where a government will try using all diversionary techniques at its disposal to brainwash/deflect the population and their attentions so that a small group of greedy thieves like those CNN experts and their handlers could rub the central coffer without anybody noticing or complaining. That’s the American model.
Hertling is a moron motor mouth. He said Russia’s fixing of 2016 election was like Pearl Harbor =
Here is his history: Hertling and Molly K. McKew wrote an article for Politico: “Putin’s Attack on the U.S. Is Our Pearl Harbor”, which urged the United States to respond accordingly to Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
I am entitled to fantasy: Robert F. Kennedy Jr becomes president and instructs the American people to converge on the CIA headquarters, not the capital building, and burn the place down.
My best argument to date, for the way forward, is an immediate ceasefire with a side order of peace negotiations. But with the evidence mounting, that Kyiev has always participated in bad faith negotiations, how can Russia be persuaded to enter such talks, or have faith in a ceasefire.
I have low expectations of this war being over by any christmas soon. Let’s hope some wise heads can be found who will persuade the current ‘rules based world order’ that the fat lady is singing her head off…_
Once trust is lost, it is near impossible to regain.
This is why neither the US nor Ukraine will be able to bring Russia to the negotiating table. How could Russia possibly agree to such a thing knowing that any agreement reached would be from that moment subject to withdrawal by the West? And Russia would also reasonably assume that the document signed, like the Minsk agreements, would only be used to buy time for the rearmament of Ukraine.
Thank you for this eye-opener! Though I had my doubts about the truthfulness of CNN ‘s broadcasting, I could never have believed they would allow themselves to participate in such a smear campaign of a great leader
How can any one respect European elected clowns? They couldn’t have helped Russia more if they tried.
It is eazy to deal with a rational and intelligent enemy. One might even come to respect him and push for a resolution to the conflict. One may find no pleasure in defeating him.
However, Putin is dealing with irrational haters and that is the hardest thing to deal with. European hatred for Russia is irrational and that’s what Russians have come to internalize.
It’s too much to ask Putin to respect irrational haters.
“… irrational haters.”
The hatred of Western elites isn’t necessarily irrational. Most are trash clowns selected for positions of authority in the neoliberal order (which exists to protect transnational banking cartels) precisely because of their servility and compliance. It’s not just that Russian (and China) stand outside of the neoliberal order, but that they represent alternate ways to organize society where merchants do not rule, especially that most dyscivilizational variety of merchant, the financialist. Trash clown ‘elites’ correctly fear that their status, privilege, and remuneration will vanish with the passing of neoliberalism. (or neoconservatism, it’s the same thing, just a different camouflage pattern optimized for infiltration into a different sociopolitical matrix)
This is tangent to why I say Russia cannot make peace with Western authority, because authority in our fake democracies has been shorn of power. Power lies, at least at the present time, in the hands of those who control the manufacture of fiat currency the measured and calculated distribution of which guides the institutional behavior of the control nodes of civilization. Who owns media? Who owns the corporations that we call political parties? Who provides the campaign contributions to those sitting on the House Committee that decides which Colonels are going to be approved to be promoted to General rank?
The problem with this kind of system of indirect governance is that power exercises control over state authority indirectly, and thus while this works fine for shaping the political and economic environment over the long term, it is not amenable to nimble handling of crises which require immediate decisive leadership. We are in exactly such a crises. It is in this context that we should consider Andrei Martyanov’s recent “Elaboration on Macron and BRICS.” (https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/06/elaboration-on-macron-and-brics.html)
No longer can either the Rothschilds or any of the other power brokers within the West (who are by no means unified) count on their servants in authority to solve their problems. The servants cannot. So of what use are they anymore, and to whom? The servants have been collaborators in the destruction of their countries. They are afraid. Hatred of Russians is how they choose to deal with it.
“A lie, told often enough becomes the truth.” Vladimir Lennin
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it and eventually they will believe it.” Joseph Gobbels
Says it all.
It is hard to watch the Clown News Network and their paid liars.
“They even named the amount of money that they spent on the preparation and implementation of this coup d’état.””
“They” being the quintessential harpy Victoria Nuland.
Merriam-Webster dictionary gives an example of a harpy that perfectly describes Nuland: “in fairy tales stepmothers are often portrayed as harpies who make the lives of their stepchildren miserable.”
God save the queen, man! And Brandon too!
Sex Pistols had a song about it, and it’s still relevant.
One meaningful and profound question: can anyone imagine a US president talking in this humble manner to congregated African leaders, trying to explain to them the just cause of American foreign policy?
if you’ve watched the Apple TV series “silo” the propagandizing/control mechanisms shown there are quite illustrative of the collective West has come to.. great series in my opinion…
“Hertling and Hall accuse Putin of lying”
From 1969 onwards the guiding principals of the “embryonic” Russian Federation has been tell the truth few will believe you because they are mirror gazers, and be silent and allow the impatient to fill the “sound of silence” with projections, because they are mirror gazers – not to find a well-travelled bridge over troubled water as appears to be the practice of Messrs Hertling and Hall and many millions of others in “The United States of America” the designation of which being a lie from inception.
(i.e., it is more properly translated as “Fuck You” then “Shove It” according to Andrei Martyanov) is out of character for Putin”
Translation is never an option even within the same language only interpretations since words are catalysts of connotations and connotations vary.
Hence the phrase ” is out of character for Putin” perhaps would benefit from being rendered “is out of context for Mr. Putin and likely used by Mr. Putin by design but not by default since Mr. Putin was not in the banya with friends, but perhaps inserting some Zek which he may have deemed appropriate in context.
Mr. Martynov is suggesting less stringent interpretations of the words used by Mr. Putin by restricting his interpretation to “fuck off” and “shove it” without properly extending the phrase, and failing to add a derivative relative of the words within “the current paradigm of intensity”, in the prior knowledge that Messrs Hertling and Hall and many millions of others in “The United States of America/NATO” will interpret the words through responses conditioned/projected earlier.
This is not a point in history where Russia and China are taking control from USA.
This is 7 years later.
MAGA (again) was an accurate slogan, US dominance was over in 2016.
Putin (and Xi very bluntly in recent months too) are only explaining the new status quo.
Meanwhile idiot US plans like considering piloting F-16s are the spiteful rage acts of the lost side, not those of a side trying still to compete.
Hertling and Hall are just doing their job – complete denial is the only US policy that has any coherent sense.
“Hertling and Hall are just doing their job”
Agreed – hopefully they will continue doing so.
Thanks a lot, I don’t watch CNN, now I have to go wash my eyes out with soap. 😉
“In a subsequent meeting with representatives of several African nations trying to to broker a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, Putin again minced no words in condemning the refusal of Ukraine and its Western allies to bargain in good faith.”
Mr. Putin communicated differently with the African leaders who are often treated as children by the West as has been the case for hundreds of years.
One historical example prepared by missionaries and used to educate the natives in matters of Adam-and-Eveness and the sanctity of property simultaneously in pidgin English about apples is:
No eatam
Dat done be white man chop.
perhaps in hope that the Africans don’t gain knowledge but religion, as is the case in “The United States of America” by conflating propaganda with communication.
Remember “None agreement capable”, was very accurate regarding the impossibility of any kind of realistic treaty or sessation of hostilities.
And how can murderers be trusted already?
Remember this whole regime is backed by actors from Britain Israel and DC who sponsored the cold blooded killing of the good folks who rightfully protested during the Maiden, 1200 of whom perished in the building they holed up in in Odessa in 2014.
That is in no uncertain terms mass murder, of the most pre-meditated with malice and aforethought kind, no less orchastrated by Victorie Nuland and her ilk from out of the bowels of State. Who all have drenched themselves in the blood of hundreds of thousands if not millions of innocents, over the last few decades alone, never mind their predecestors record of genocide across the developing world on all continents.
How else should the Russians be expected to respond, they know and see first hand intimately the rancid fruit of world domination megalomaniacs running my country, every day, creeping foot by foot closer the their sacred sovereign borders, when every kind of actor and sychophant with a nasty pie-hole telegraphs explicitly Russia is the next Lybia or Syria, never mind what they are doing to my country, America.
No matter the underlying realities we are not permitted to see, which is the hidden making of wars by the special bloodlines for generation of filthy lucre and death on industrial scale, using these wars to cull the human race of undesirebles and useless feeders, their direct words, who are the worlds ultimate monetary system overlords, with their corporate and central bankster agenda of a singular global tyranny, even if Russian counterparts of said bloodlines/orders of the dragons and black suns and the 5Star Jesuit generals, are in on the present brewing global scale war in the making, it may be the Russians who are the power behind the power, decided, wait, why are we going to go thru the holocaust of another world war again?
Thats what it looks to me has taken place, that somehow, and who am I to know such things, but the pattern in details is unimpeachable, the Russians are not sticking to the world domination script, and instead have turned inward in a spectacular Sovereign crusades of preserving Time Honored Traditions and Codes of Russia proper. And this infuriates the bloodlines and orders, this defiance by Russia, it can not stand it can not be tolerated, and even if it destroys them, these special bloodlines and their various special orders are going to literally, because tgey literally are, fighting to the last slave class. They are ready to go to the terrible end instead of relent or relinquish an iota of their tyrannical nasty global order powers.
I mean, just watch the main actors who are public figures, Agents in every sense, Victoria Nuland, that self anointed dictatoress over in the EU, take a goid look at these two, tell me they are not insane blood thirsty maniacs, driving the west down the path of Armageddon?
There are no, read none-zero, Sovereign legitimate lawfully elected figures in any position in any western government, from which positive change, or any change for that matter, but what the “special” bloodlines deem to be.
It would be some kind of miracle Mr. Putin does not fully clearly understand the entire west now, presently, is nothing more than the Ukraine itself, in fact there is not any differences between DC and Kiev but distance and language. Both regimes, puppet client regimes, for that which operates along the fringes of the shadows, who among all the evil unspeakable they commit and truly represent, or they are themselves representatives of evil incarnate on high, or is that on low, seriously, for whats NAZI but Satan with a tiny square trimmed mustache?… Servants of the darkness.
Did Russia, specifically who it is who are the actual powers inside Russian borders who hold all the keys, have their great come to Jesus moment and choose deverification from the mainline future long determined by what drives the west to oblivion? And what about the historical record of a Heavens gate under Moscow, and how after everything thats been done to us good folks by these maniacs with their globullshit world order genocide, is that so hard to believe? I mean, just take the almost incomprehensible scale and scope of the surveillance and its agents and their programs of mind control and brainwashing, gathering of intellegence of every living soul on earth.
Yeah, I cant but agree with all my heart with Vlad the Nazi impaler, “screw em!”
Its nice the Africans want to make nice. Yet they should know better than anyone themselves how utterly corrupt, dominating, criminal, and agreement incapable this cabal is. Whats their gig then, if they indeed have enough functioning braincells amongst them collectively knowing full well the true history of say the Roychikians and their agents who been raping the African continant for centuries? Is Putin signaling them as to Russias change-up? Or are nothing really but soft power agents sent by the Rothchilians or orders of the Dragons, meant to get close and subtly undermine Putin and his peoples resolve? Wearing a skin suit of African Humanitarianism?
To create an Africanized version of Minsk agreements for the purepose of not peace but buying more time for Ukraine?
“Trust But Verify” said good ol’ Ronny Raygun.
@mtnforge,
I don’t usually read long winded posts. Yours was no exception.
As I only had to go five lines in to find “the cold blooded killing of the good folks who rightfully protested during the Maiden, 1200 of whom perished in the building they holed up in in Odessa in 2014” I feel I need to tell you that your abacus may have a malfunction problem.
With all due courtesies, DiggerUK…_
It may be a typo as the official death count is just over 120. Then 40 -50 odd at the Trade Unions House fire.
Perhaps the following speaks to the US’s attempt to start a conflict with China.
https://mishtalk.com/economics/huge-growth-in-chinas-aircraft-industry-is-flying-under-the-radar
God Bless Владимир the Great, for unambiguous CLARITY, and conveying how at least 70% of Humans FEEL. УРА,УРА,УРА!
“Murder” is the conclusion of Ritter and Macgregor of what the west is doing in ordering hapless Ukrainians into the meat grinder counter offensive. Not war but murder. Anyone with a conscience would agree.
Its so easy sitting in your fancy office at the State Department surrounded by ass-kissers telling you how smart you are.
I truly believe these types get off on the death and destruction.
At first I thought this was just another round of the game of “Who Can Be the biggest Idiot”. But watch these two clowns body language, heads nodding in agreement to whatever the blow-dried moron reads off the screen. That’s one of the classic mind-rape techniques used by brainwashers for decades.
These peopel are special for being in TV, they are authorities on the subject matter. They are nodding in agreement as should you.
It suggest to mje that they know damn well they are lying but also think the CNN watching public are too stupid to figure it out on their own – the only thing they are probably right about.
“In my culture, only children tell stupid and blatant lies!”
And in their culture they think all others tell stupid lies all of the time, and all “non-whites” are children.
That is one of the consequences of interpreting “alienation” as “individual choice” thereby being complicit in their own transcendence – although Mr. Chomsky offers a different explanation that: My country doesn’t tell lies, because to tell lies you need to know the truth.
Fantasía nunca desparecerá…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzGmNoO9kQc
“Fantasía nunca desparecerá…..”
Fortunately since that is a way of limiting blowback productively when burros ride burros.
But they were warned, the burros….I am of the opinion that they mounted all this so that to scam the Western population ( the sheep…) so that “Funds for Ukraine” would end in BlackRock´s ( that is Biden´s adminsitration´s…) pocket…since Congress would never accede to transfer funds directly to BalckRock with no reason whatsoever…
Then, they thought Ukraine/NATO would resist or that Putin would bend….
“American elites were already aware that Russia could not be defeated in its immediate environment and that Kiev, by launching an ‘anti-terrorist’ campaign against its Russian-speaking citizens, was senselessly provoking enmity with Russia. “Making a demigod out of a corrupt tool of the Ukrainian oligarchs” (referring to Zelensky) was an obvious mistake. So was confusing US interests with those of the Nazis in Kyiv, Lvov and their allies in Warsaw, Riga, Tallinn and Vilnius. Of course, Washington was on notice that President Putin’s protests against NATO enlargement had to be taken seriously.
However, the US ruling elite chose to ignore these warnings and the results speak for themselves, Carden concludes”.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/a-forgotten-history/
There are also burros in Russia…and people who were after Russian taxpayers money for funds….that people related to the WEF….Do not you think they should be extricated?
Still they were in the front row at SPIEF…when Putin talked….
“when burros ride burros.”
“There are also burros in Russia”
Burros riding burros ?
As you are aware burros are good at carrying loads over bumpy ground and baying at the moon restricting the “rest” of their companions, but not too smart on “logistics” or “strategies”.
The Disney version of Pinocchio suggested that if you smoke too many cigars you turn into pool playing burros, so from inception cigars and simplistic games such as chess, pool and roulette were avoided, and coffee and cognac (Georgian not Armenian) were taken despite attempts by the schmoozer of Krasnodarsky oblast trying to pull up the vines.
Are you trying to emulate Mr. Harrison in matters piggish ?
In their lives there’s some things lacking
What they need is a damn good whacking?
Or like “the Saker who flew away” from scarecrows he thought were columns – third, or fourth, or fifths as served in bars in uptown Manhattan and elsewhere?
Why whack helpers over bumpy grounds – are you “American”?
Let them do it themselves or with the co-operation of the hands and swipes of a dominatrix duly rewarded, that way they can feel normal but exceptional simultaneously, without being leader of the pack as that can prove stressful.
“…are you “American”‘
No, obviously…I am just trying to know my enemies besides of myself, because, “if you do not know your enemy, nor you know yourself, you will lose all battles”….
Are you this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Karaganov
“Member of the Trilateral Comission…and the Council of Foreign Relations..,” that sounds all the way as the US “deep state”…the Borg….
And amicably and smilingly conversing at “Chatham House” in the illustrating photo…even in 2015…..that sounds like the UK “deep state”….
Wondering who is the deputy FM whom Mr. Doctorow mentions in his article who was present, allong Karaganov, in that “dialogue” organized by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation crowd….well, just the people who wanted to “vaccinate” all the people of Germany…and Europe on beahlf of the US economy….the German socialdemocrats…..
This Karaganov has a very sinister face….
A huge FWIW:
This may be a tad OT but not by much; the article relates to Angleton, a very sinister former cia official, deceased, and his role in what I would consider now the neo con dominated cia;
https://intelligencehistory.substack.com/p/the-angletonian-afterlife-the-fall?utm_source=cross-post&publication_id=1206388&post_id=127961188&isFreemail=true&utm_campaign=315632&utm_medium=email
this is going to be biblical , any way you slice it, when a Country / Empire, is this demoralized , only religion can fix it, and at a curtain point , only god can fix it.
Compared to “Russians are dying. This is the best investment we made” or words to that effect uttered by fierce warrior Linda Graham, Putin’s “Fuck them” is not obscene at all, and far from aggressively rude. In fact it is simply dismissive. To be on a par with Graham, Putin would have had to say not “Fuck them” but “Nuke them”
LUV😍 it when V. V. puts on his ‘Lawyer’ hat! Russia is so ‘Fortunate’ to have such an Intelligent & GOD😇 ‘Fearing’ Leader…..
Russia’s position is clear. They’re not going to lose and cannot negotiate with the west.
The west’s position is clear. They want to destroy Russia and will not negotiate.
With elections coming up next year in the U.S., Biden cannot afford for this war to still be raging or, certainly, for Ukraine to be rolled up by Russia and the west humiliated. The future of NATO and the war machine is at stake.
The neocons continually double down on stupid. I see no one in power in the west with even half a brain.
We’re headed for nuclear war.
These people are going to kill us all.
One of the clowns said the West had believed Russia had an excellent Army until Russia went into Ukraine, what the female dummy should have reminded him is the US Army went into Afghanistan faced a bunch of cave dwellers armed with AK-47s spent two decades there succeeded replacing Taliban with Taliban at a cost to the US taxpayer of over two trillion bucks more important losing 2,462 combatants and killing tens of thousands of innocent Afghans.
LUV😍 it when V. V. puts on his ‘Lawyer’ hat! MOTHER🤩 Russia is so ‘Fortunate’ to have such an Intelligent & GOD😇 ‘Fearing’ Leader……
Dear Larry, Sir
In geopolitics as in politics there are no coincidences, this is what is happening in China while the west eats breakfast…
On Wednesday, the 14th
China’s top leader, Xi Jinping, received President of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, in Beijing .
Then on Friday, the 16th
Chinese President Xi Jinping met billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates here on Beijing , and said the latter was his “first American friend I’ve met in Beijing this year”. Honorable Xi applauded Gates and the Gates Foundation, for their philanthropy around the world, reports Xinhua news agency.
“The foundation of China-US relations lies in the people. We have always placed our hope on the American people and wish all the best for the friendship between the two peoples,” President Xi said.
Today 2023 Juin 18th
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken will hold meetings in China -June 18-19- and meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Reuter Press, said He will be the highest-ranking U.S. government official to visit China since Biden took office in January 2021.
Okay ? No crystal balls or tea leaf readers needed…
A single topic will be dealt with and has been dealt with :
That this horrible War Between the OTAN and Russia must, should be ended ASAP before the entire planet is turned into radioactive garbage by a group of irresponsible psychopaths !
“billionaire philanthropist …”
Meaning “Satan in the shape of human being”.
“Honorable Xi applauded Gates and the Gates Foundation”
Meaning “Chinese leadership are the same deluded fools as in the West”, or “China is in cahoots with the Great Reset and the coming New World Order”.
Take your pick.
Yeah, that meeting with Gates really soured me to China. I thought Xi was different. What a fool.
1930 crash in Germany was bad; the govt. had been paying reparations by borrowing $ from USA. The SocDem (Weimar) was blamed & thrown out. There was then an alternating series of Lib & Con governments marked by increasing levels of corruption. Last centrist govt. was headed by Streicher. He knew the Nazis would win, so he pulled a stunt; he tried to get reparations stopped by wrecking the economy completely. He stopped all govt, handouts; unemployment hit 50%! The Nazis got a plurality, but Pres Hindenburg gave Hitler the nod to form a govt., figured he could control Hitler!
This is German version.
Important to note that one of the things going on is the destruction of any faith in government to produce healthy change. This is really apparent in Britain. That said, there is a horrifying mediocrity of all western leaders!
Yo Larry, AMAZING in-depth journalism – “your hired”! If this drafted ‘Nam VFW were even 10 years younger, he’d be in “Rus” learning the language and schmoozing w/ the ladies there; for I continue to maintain that, “what the USA once was, Russia is becoming: independent, prosperous, debt-free and Christian”. Now, my only consolations are: being old, still med-free/active, hunkered-down, “red county rural”, gunned, gardened, System-D simplified, “very neighborly” and every next day being just another day “closer to Home”.
Hey, I resemble that remark! I even recommended this am to an ex that she and her difficult son – if their passports are valid – consider visiting Russia. She and esp her son need a solid culture. And hey, originally from Odessa so not a big stretch. And I’ve just started to learn Russian – day 2.
But at 68, I’m too old. Best I can do is mine my driveway. ;^>
Yo Larry, love your very incise journalism but suspect I’m being “covertly/soft-censored”. Eager to financially support but . . . ?
Jaiseli,
The govt created the internet… put money into developing it. When your electronic..you are always recorded in one of the many and robust NSA recording servers. The dark web..the TOR..that was developed by the US Navy. So.. logic tells you… that’s a govt sort for algos also. So what? So you are monitored? You can be totally private in the static… you can post any information in “coded” form.. say… on comment sections like this one.
They know if they stir up the masses too much..the electric grid goes down…and there will be no milk on the farm. They live to steal… they want to capture and control the farm…they don’t want to become so repressive it’s too expensive to keep care of the cows.
It’s just business. The Victoria Nuland, international banker…. military industrial complex…etc…model.
yup. been there.
I can confirm that Yandex Translate agrees with Andrei Martyanov that “хрен им” means EXACTLY what Andrei said. The first word means “horseradish”, but when combined with the second word “them”, even Yandex Translate knew what that combination meant.
Wow. It’s really unlike Putin to use curse words, so he gave really us a view of his insides with this one.
Sometimes we think Putin is a bit too “diplomatic” and too methodical in his approach, and he does seem very unreactive in many cases (from our Western point of view).
But this new verbiage by Putin apparently shows he’s not going to be taking too much more garbage from the West.
Funny how Putin seems to have absolutely nothing in common with Hitler. I suspect the neocons will claim it is all an act.
Is it increasingly probable that Poland goes into eastern Ukraine?
The media could play this protects Ukraine freedom loving people from Russian aggression and stops Russia(maybe)
from taking over Europe(maybe). Of course, no one can say Russia will sir tight.
Dangerous times.
WWIII: 3 scenarii
However, we note that for several weeks the Americans have been regularly broadcasting “information”, or rather a “feeling” saying that the Russian nuclear weapons are for the most part (we have read the figure of 80%, taken from no one knows where) unusable because “poorly maintained”.
This in fact is done by Western leaders to persuade public opinion that if Russia is slow to lose the war, then they can safely hit her with nuclear weapons since she will hardly be able to retaliate, 80% of its weapons being “broken down” according to them.
A severe demonstration such as I described above will break this beautiful propaganda.
On the ground, the Ukrainians launch offensive after offensive, all being defeated by the Russian forces. But it would be irresponsible to think that the Ukrainians are coming to the end of their stocks: NATO has almost emptied its stocks of equipment and Ukraine is now over-armed with modern equipment.
Regarding military personnel, not all Ukrainians are dead yet, and many foreign mercenaries (including French, see this video of a Frenchman injured in Ukraine and evacuated. There are also a large number of Poles.
https://boriskarpov.tvs24.ru/2023/06/18/3eme-guerre-mondiale-partie-3-evolution-du-conflit-russie-otan-3-scenari/
Once it has been understood that on the one hand Russia will go all the way with the demilitarization of Ukraine (that is to say up to Kiev at the very least), and that on the other hand the States- United (and therefore NATO) will not agree to let Russia win, we can consider several possible developments in the situation.
1- Russia continues to systematically destroy the Ukrainian offensives then launches in turn a general offensive in the direction of Odessa and kyiv. NATO realizes that it is unable to reverse the situation unless it intervenes directly, the Ukrainian regime “falls” and Ukraine passes under the direct control of Russia. The United States is preparing other attacks against Russia, as it has done for 20 years: internal destabilization, unrest in the Caucasus, etc. So we find ourselves like 10 years ago, without Ukraine as a forward base for NATO.
2- Russia continues to systematically destroy the Ukrainian offensives then launches in turn a general offensive in the direction of Odessa and kyiv. NATO, pushed by the American military lobby, then either uses tactical nuclear weapons on Ukrainian territory against Russian forces or sends its own troops there.
In both cases, Russia goes to war against NATO. If NATO used nuclear weapons, Russia is responding in the same way by hitting military bases in Poland, Romania Germany and France, to begin with. If NATO did not use nuclear weapons, Russia strikes European command centers, military AND political, using new generation weapons (Kinzhal, Poseidon, etc.)
It is then more than likely that the Ukrainian-Polish border will be nothing more than an unimportant line and the fighting will move to Poland and then to Western Europe. The European armies being on the one hand little motivated, on the other hand badly supplied (stocks of material are empty) it is likely that there will be very little resistance. We cannot imagine either England or France using nuclear weapons against Russia, knowing full well what awaits them in this case. Iran and Turkey for their part take advantage of the situation and enter southern Europe. Russia “from Brest to Vladivostok” is coming true…
The Americans will not intervene, even Biden and his manipulators will not risk their safety for Europe. They will introduce new sanctions! And Biden will likely no longer be in power.
3- Although this hypothesis is completely unthinkable, I mention it all the same for the principle: Russia is overwhelmed by the forces of Ukraine and a serious threat hangs over the security of the country, the Ukrainians take Kursk and Belgorod and advance on Moscow. As provided by Russian military doctrine, we are carrying out a warning nuclear strike in Ukraine, then possibly others if the Ukrainians do not leave Russia. Here too, NATO will not intervene more than today since no strikes have been carried out on countries of the Atlantic Alliance. Ukraine thus becomes a devastated “tampom zone” between NATO and Russia. The United States is preparing other attacks against Russia, as it has done for 20 years: internal destabilization, unrest in the Caucasus, etc.
Other parameters come into play: The situation in the United States where the risks of civil war are very real. Trump is in my opinion not a parameter to be taken into account, during his mandate he largely financed the Ukrainian army, bacteriological laboratories in Ukraine etc. A possible second Trump presidency will not change anything, but we can always envisage the election of a totally independent candidate, outside the system, who will then decide to end NATO aid to Ukraine. We are then in hypothesis number 1.
The internal situation in Russia can also play a role: Although Vladimir Putin is, whatever the Western media say, in perfect health, he can die. His replacement will very likely be a “hardliner” from the regime who will continue in the same direction even more energetically.
Although this assumption is completely stupid, I mention it all the same for the principle: A coup in Russia brings the “liberals” of the 5th column to the Kremlin. They order the withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukraine but the army refuses to obey. Civil war in Russia, NATO takes the opportunity to intervene militarily in Russia. This hypothesis, the least probable, would be the most favorable to Western countries.
These hypotheses are just … hypotheses, but Russian leaders are considering them and others. The only certainty today is that Russia will not abandon its objectives. His survival is at stake.
Ukraine threw away their chain gang draftees in Bakhmut. It now appears that their hoarded and trained “NATO” elites are dying by droves in the southern attack. Now is the question.
With those troops gone? Does NATO commit? Or do they send Polish “volunteers”.
The next few weeks will be telling.
Let’s not forget the man, Denis Kireev, who led those negotiations was shot dead by SBU thugs… Can ‘t have common sense in this crazed, mind-addled country.
> it is more properly translated as “Fuck You” then “Shove It
Well, I am not qualified to weigh English expletives, yet used “хрен им” – literally like “they can eat radish rather than what they’d like to” – is a very mild expletive, socially acceptable in most circumstances. “Shoving up their arses” would, in Russian at least, have been significantly more rude a proposition.
Yes, the meaning was well aligned with Nulland’s “fuck the EU”, but the tone was relaxed mocking, disdain, ignoring and making fun of, rather than powerful push. Hear for yourself the original video:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/life.ru/p/1587154/amp
Putin is long past the Rubicon, so he is no lore angry, he was, but no he looks at his past anger from some distance and takes a relaxed bitter fun about it. Yes, quite sour, but still a fun.
One a third look, isn’t weighing some fleeting expletives a perfect example of “Kremlin watching” and “Special Olympics”?
Frankly, the three banners look much more of a symbolism to me.
Actually, if you watch Andrei’s remarks, the radish in question looks like a large phallus. Per Andrei, it is not a mild insult.
I don’t like video/audio formats for anything serious, to me those are like being a voluntarily foie gras gander.
And, it is always a question of a benchmark. What is okay in one company won’t be in another.
But from purely language point this is as mild as was Putin’s “would we find [terrorists] in closet – we would [finish] them in closets”.
For Putin’s public speeches it is harsh. For colloquial street speak – mild.
Here is example of this phrase: https://sweethelp.ru/product/vkusnaya-pomosch-hren-tebe-a-ne-podarok-250-ml
But yes, in some contexts хрен is an acceptable euphemisms for penis. Albeit there are 2 harsher words
I would argue though, that the phrase “have a radish instead of xxx” is so common (if vulgar) that this imagery got worn out in that idiom. In others it still is vivid, I agree
You should pay attention to other words Putin says, right after that. He adds something like “if you know what I mean” and “as our people say”. Non-mild insults don’t require nudge-nudge know-what-I-mean stuff after them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kwh3R0YjuQ
“One a third look, isn’t weighing some fleeting expletives a perfect example of “Kremlin watching””
Yes more dissertations/interpretations on the need to piss furthering the tradition, thereby illustrating the ineptitude of communication attempts of “The United States of America/NATO” primarily to the rest of the world, since their target audience remains themselves.
Ergo the continuing prevalence of enhanced mirror gazing predicated upon notions of exceptionalism and comments thereupon assigning “significances” which internally aids the perpetuations of the illusions in “The power of “American propaganda” and the sole agency/significance of the blemish free great man of history, among the modes by which “The United States of America/NATO” co-operate by default/ignorance in their own transcendence/self-culling, thereby precluding their “strategic purposes” including throughout the 1990’s through moderated modes of encouragement by others including silence in interaction with impatience and continual needs of self-promotions.
Lol.
Hertling and Hall… duelling fuckups on parade.
It’s impossible to compete with unintentional self-parody.
Good legal analysis demonstrating that the charges against Trump are horseshit and politically motivated:
https://rumble.com/v2tn4ac-get-this-video-to-trump-barnes-breaks-down-federal-indictment-viva-frei-liv.html
I worry however that even if Trump beats the rap and gets elected that the Deep State/Blob will still arrest any efforts to drain the swamp.
with all due respect, but the south african (i.e. ANC) delegation should perhaps first find a peaceful solution to their own country`s dire economic and societal situation before trying to step onto the international diplomatic stage.
with its failing economy, daily, now permanent, energy blackouts and an unemployment rate well beyond fifty percent(!), south africa is in no position to want to present foreign countries with viable solutions to highly complex problems before confronting their own, still very basic needs.
I am sure your country is in position to want to present foreign countries with viable solutions to highly complex problems before confronting their own, still very basic needs.
There must surely be a NSA/DoD/Alphabet Soup production facilities pumping out this nonsense that’s appearing on screens all over the West. Here’s another – Russias sale of military equipment has declined . . . not because they are fighting a small war, but because their stuff is crap !! I kid you not – so we know what he’s saying about the US material. Have a watch if you need a laugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKS1Q1L9acQ
Cheers
I shared your post, Mr. Johnson.
I thought it made a fine summation to my contention that the US is quick becoming a Dystopian State; my audience is likely aghast at what I perceive, and thus publish on an innocuous blog that never had any intention to … I just never believed I’d live to see the fall of an empire.
I can’t imagine what they think. views are up about 1000%.
What you see is not always what you get.
good post. It is telling that Poland treated the peace delegates terribly. Quite a contrast with the reception in St Petersburg.
Putin provided receipts regarding the tentative peace agreement. Would be front page news with a real if there truly was freedom of the press here.
mr. johnson- this is unrelated; found it interesting. have to admit if i had 125k; would take the risk; yu only live once in this realm.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/titanic-tourism
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-submarine-missing-rescue-mission-underway-newfoundland-canada/
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