I recently asked a friend in military intelligence if the Top Brass in the U.S. military had awakened finally to the reality that Ukraine is losing the war, which means the United States is losing as well. His answer shocked me. He answered succinctly, “NO!”
The U.S. generals reportedly are clinging to the hope that Ukraine will wear down the Russian Army and create a new “Vietnam” for Russia. Looks like these generals — none of them served in Vietnam — are ignorant of the history of the United States in that ill-conceived, unnecessary war. We sacrificed the lives of 58,000 plus brave American youth and perhaps a million Vietnamese in 12 years of fighting that ultimately left the North Vietnamese in control of the country.
That war was sold as a necessary mission to combat the spread of international communism, but that was a lie. Thanks to the courageous actions of the late Daniel Ellsberg, the truth of what the military and intelligence community knew about the war was revealed in the Pentagon Papers. Our military mis-adventure started off with a small group of “advisors” and mushroomed into more than 500,000 soldiers, Marines, Air Force and Navy personnel on the ground fighting Viet Cong guerrillas and North Vietnamese regulars. To what end? We got tired and left. The North Vietnamese took control and, with the passage of time, we decided we could normalize relations with Vietnam.
Ukraine ain’t Vietnam. Very few of the American troops on the ground in Vietnam spoke the language or understood the culture of the Vietnamese people. By contrast, most of the people in Ukraine speak Russian and many have relatives in Russia. Vietnam was half-a-world away from America’s shores. The logistics nightmare of supplying an expeditionary Army took an enormous economic toll on the United States economy. Russia is right next door to Ukraine. The task of supplying its troops with ammunition and food is an easy, sustainable mission. Russia has a clear incentive to fight in Ukraine — it legitimately views foreign troops in Ukraine as a potential existential threat to Russia. What threat did Vietnam pose to America? ZERO!
The only benefit that America derived from that disaster is that there are many Vietnamese Americans scattered across the states who established great Vietnamese restaurants. A damn high price to pay for a good bowl of Pho.
In short, those Generals who think they can turn Ukraine into a new Vietnam are morons. They are indulging fantasies the belie a complete ignorance of history.
It’s day #546 of the war. That’s a long time to have one’s young life interrupted, let alone hammered by stress. Hell, I’m just tired by following it. I wish the neocons and their political lackeys death, but I want those conscripted to go home and be hugged.
Larry, regards your chat with the Judge:
1. Zelensky in Denmark, very staged… unless the Danes were like the Nigeriens and sewed their own flags.
2. If the sun rose this morning and the moon followed tonight, Jake Sullivan would say, “That was unpredictable”.
Mike Hampton says
22 August 2023 at 23:35
It’s day #546 of the war. That’s a long time to have one’s young life interrupted, let alone hammered by stress. Hell, I’m just tired by following it. I wish the neocons and their political lackeys death, but I want those conscripted to go home and be hugged.
Really????
The Vietnam war messed with my life from it’s beginnings in 63 until it’s ignomious end in 75…..
I returned from the War in 70 but continued in the reserves afterward….
Apparently, you have no patience….
INDY
Yep. My war was different in South America. But yes. The smart phone attention span generation does not understand the glacial path of major policy.
“It’s day #546 of the war. That’s a long time to have one’s young life interrupted, …”
Tell that to people in The Balkans, or Middle East, or Northern Africa, or anywhere else where US democracy spreading happened.
BTW, propaganda outlet know as Wikipedia says that this war is 9 years, 6 months and 4 days old.
Mercouris today raised an interesting suspicion that western forces were at work to goad Russia into an intervention that they expected Russia to lose, then negotiate some final settlement with a defeated Russia that would greatly favor western interests, by citing a curious article in the National Interest from the late summer of 2021 that had two versions, the first spoke of exactly that scenario but was then strangely replaced by a version that removed that reference.
Sounds to me like that would be a repeat of Kosovo.
See the 2018 Rand paper. Operating from Adventageous Ground. We more or less followed it. They realeased a new version recently acknowledging problems and recommending backing off for now. Lol. Sullivan and Nuland aren’t on board so we’ll have to suffer on.
Well, in an odd way, Ukraine has sort of turned into a Vietnam–South Vietnam, except far more corrupt, while Russia has shown itself to be a vastly more powerful version of North Vietnam…
A thought exercise: Let’s put the shoe on the other foot.
Imagine Texas and New Mexico decided they’d had enough of the Clinton/Nuland/Kagan/Rothschild NeoCon Junta in Washington and Brussels. In this scenario, the US is a politically extremist and financially corrupt, ethnically divided federation (remember it is the United STATES of America, not Amerigoland) … oh wait, sorry, that is reality intruding.
Texas and New Mexico vote 80% to CONSTITUTIONALLY secede and then the Uniparty US gov’t and NATO-backed mercenaries shell and bomb Texas and New Mexico for 8 years, killing 14,000 civilians including women and children.
Imaginary Mexico ( an underestimated nuclear military powerhouse) offers Texas and New Mexico limited military protection (remember this is a thought exercise) and later Texas and New Mexico LEGALLY vote to join a Mexican Federation, remaining largely independent otherwise.
The US/NATO UNCONSTITUTIONALLY will not release Texas and New Mexico, also demanding that other “historical” Mexican border states be handed over to the US as well (like Zelenski fantasizes about “reclaiming Crimea”, due to Khrushchev’s arrogant mistake in the 1950’s)
Imaginary Mexico has had enough and decided that only the removal of the NeoCon Cabal in Washington and US neutrality can stop the insanity…
Remember the Crimean War? Obviously the Brits have never forgotten the ignominious defeat in the Charge of the Light Brigade and still want their revenge. Like Haiti still suffers for the Slave Revolts against France in the late 1700’s/early 1800’s, while the subservient Dominican Republic is protected by Western powers. Niger anyone? Like Afghanistan must be punished due to the massacre of the Retreat From Kabul, where only one European, Dr. William Brydon survived.
But like the Charge of the Light Brigade, the US/NATO is using obsolete technology and tactics/strategy in the face of a determined and modern military. This was the early death-throes of the British Empire, culminating in the loss of India. But the US Empire is fading faster in these turbo-charges times, will Ukraine be the USA’s “India”?
Into the Valley of Death rode the 600… except this time, it is the 400,000 (so far).
History rhyming to be sure. These are not new ideas, even in the US… the minstrel class gave us such gems as Fortunate Son and If Dirt Were Dollars.
And of course the anthem of the anti-war movement, I’m Fixin’ to Die Rag. “be the first one on your block to have your boy come home in a box”.
Zelenski has openly said that US soldiers will have to come to die in Ukraine… Is the US citizenry prepared to sacrifice a generation or two to “weaken Russia” and topple China? Vietnam losses would seem small by comparison of what awaits US/NATO soldiers in Ukraine.
Or just sit tight falsely believing the continental US is safe from attack… even North Korea can hit the US mainland with nukes.
WAKE UP PEOPLE. This is NOT WW2 or even WW1 redux. This time the US will be left in ruins, just like Europe was twice. Will Russia and China leap into a neo-Marshall Plan? Doubtful, the US/NATO will be isolated economically and militarily neutered… which they have already mostly done to themselves at the behest of the Rothschild Class.
“All wars are banker’s wars.” Smedley Butler
“There are none so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.” Gothe
> Imagine … the Uniparty US gov’t and NATO-backed mercenaries shell and bomb
> Texas and New Mexico for 8 years, killing 14,000 civilians including women and
> children.
What is this 14,000 number you cite?
The 14,000 is, as far as I understand, a western estimate of TOTAL casualties, from both sides and including combatants and civilians.
So, it’s often said but wrong I believe, to refer to 14,000 civilians. Latest on Donbass children dead from UA shelling was around 250 from Donbass’ own accounts. Isn’t that enough?
Contrast that with UNMIK’s two year investigation into Kosovar verified dead AFTER NATO’s war (not before as in Donbass). They came up with less than 5,000 of undetermined origin or by whose hand (including NATO’s), Serb, Albanian, combatant, civilian…. which the UN conveniently rounded up to 10,000 under US urging.
In my world, 2+2 = 4. The West’s ‘new math’ can go take an acid bath. Sooner the better.
14,000 is the number stated for years in various sources as the CIVILIAN deaths in the “breakaway” republics after the 2014 Maidan coup… y’know, the one where Vickie the Hutt was handing out cookies before declaring “fuck the EU”. The Ukie-nazi media has since employed the MSM/UN/etc. to make this number mean something quite different, which is why most internet “sources” quote some variant of the Ukie gov’t/intelligence agencies oddly claiming this number included Ukie-nazi soldiers.
Kinda reminds one of Albright’s comment on 500,000 dead Iraqi children “being worth it”.
Why believe those who have consistently lied to you on nearly everything since WW2?
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American Public believes is false.” Willian Casey, to newly-elected Ronald Reagan, 1981, now 100% verified.
reply to A P says (below)
A P:
> 14,000 is the number stated for years in various sources as the CIVILIAN deaths …
Would you care to cite one (or more) of those ‘various sources’? You know, like provide evidence? Otherwise, stop making shit up.
I’ll do you one better with an actual event in ’99.
NATO decides to back secessionist rebels in Kosovo waging a guerrilla war against at first Serb police, then military and civilians. In spite of Bekgrade agreeing to withdraw its troops and allow UN peacekeepers into Kosovo, it ends with a NATO demand for full occupation of Serbia, followed by 78 days of bombing, including civilian infrastructure, to force Belgrade’s capitulation.
Had Belgrade been shelling and killing civilians in downtown Pristina for 8 years, prior to Western courts concluding that Kosovo had a unilateral right to secede? Then by what right under any western concocted rules-based order anywhere did the Donbass not have the right to secede from Ukraine after being subjected to far worse than what transpired in Kosovo (after all the MSM BS had been disproven)?
NATO ITSELF made the rule, fool!
Some things in life are written in simple black and white. This is one of them.
Don’t forget the current Ukrainian government came to power in a US sponsored coup. Viktor Yanukovych wasn’t even pro Russian per say. He just saw the terms of the exclusive trade agreement the US was forcing down his throat and said no because the Russians were offering better terms. He wanted to negotiate stating we could trade with all countries. He didn’t understand the US made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. Honestly he is lucky he made it out alive and he owes Putin his life.
Texas Can just leave the union without approval from anyone! Only two states can do that TX and Vermont (I think)!
There’s another issue that the US ruling class just doesn’t want to come to terms with for ideological reasons.
Russian speaking citizens in the Donbass and in what was formerly Ukrainian territory see the Russian military as their liberators. At the behest of the US, the Banderist regime in Kiev carried out a series of brutal shelling campaigns against the Russian speakers in Ukraine. If anything, many of these people want Moscow to take an even harder line.
The locals don’t want to be a part of that Banderist regime because they are being discrimated against and the government of Ukraine is waging a brutal civil war against them.
In stark contrast to this, in the Vietnam War, the US had lost all legitimacy in the eyes of the Vietnamese people, both in the North and the South. The US had replaced the French oppressors that colonized the nation.
That’s the part that the US Establishment can’t come to terms with. They lie to themselves for ideological reasons. If they came to terms with the truth, they would have to admit they were the bad guys in this war and using the Ukrainians, whom they don’t care about, as human shields in their proxy war. Their goal is to break up Russia and loot the nation of natural resources. Everyone can see this.
Another consideration is that the Ukrainian government seems to be destroying the young male population by sending them off to fight the Russians. It’s a demographic catastrophe for whatever is left of the nation. Insurgents tend to be younger males. Between the people who are leaving Ukraine or who are already left and the ones who are casualties in US led puppet regime in Kiev, there won’t be many young males left in what is left of Ukraine.
I don’t think that the Establishment is capable of coming to terms with any of this. Reality is going to be a very brutal Train Wreck in many Western political establishments.
Exactly who is going to repopulate Ukraine? It can only be Russians or people friendly to Russia. Secondly, I laugh to myself when I think of joe biden as super Catholic and all the politicians are super Christians well Joe and the super Christians are all taught that mortal sin is a big no-no for entry to heaven and they have in the eyes of any church committed numerous mortal sins so they reach the pearly gates and Peter looks through the spyhole and Peter says fuk off and go to the door over there there’s a cloven hooves guy waiting to shove a hot fork up your ass and that’s just to start with.
Yup.
Most Ukrainian ‘refugees’ will not be in a hurry to return. If history plays out in real time the Ukrainian diaspora made up of (smart) cowards that fled the country will have sinecures in governments, military and even to the right hand of the leaders of western nations.
The breeding Ultra Orthodox of Israel. Who are running out of Palestinian land to steal. That was the plan. Zelenksy.
Biden, like Pelosi and other so-called Catholic politicians, is actually an atheist. Almost all our politicians are atheists, and have been for a long time.
No one hates Orthodox Christianity more that Vatican. For them this is Holy Crusade. Biden is aiming for sainthood.
Ukraine is being systematically cleansed of it’s indigenous inhabitants and will eventually be repopulated by Africans and Arabs. It’s what the globalists are doing to the rest of Europe and is part of what they want to do to Russia.
Stephen Kelly,
its very easy to imagine Biden and the other assortment of psychopaths as “super Christians” when you honestly think about the blood soaked genocidal history of the spread of Christianity.
Altruistic? Remember that quote by some African guy about the missionaries having the bible and the Africans having the land. Quote by Jomo Kenyatta on the arrival of Christianity in Kenya: When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.
All this turning the other cheek is for the imbeciles. Very similar to the idolization of that scum known as Gandhi. The sooner we decide to call a spade a spade the better.
Supposedly, the Pope is the representative of God on earth and he is chauffeured around in a bullet proof vehicle. Lol so much for confidence….
You sound like you can’t tell the difference between Western Christianity and Eastern Orthodox Christianity. If you are intentionally mixing those, then it’s even worse.
Several years ago there was chatter amongst (((The Tribe))) that ‘Project Israel’ was going to end up failing & an ‘Israel v2.0’ was going to be Central/South Eastern Ukraine – a sort of Khazarian Empire re do. Good way to implement that is to make sure there’s no (or very few) fighting aged men left to effectively oppose it. One could argue what’s unfolding in Ukraine fits this scenario. Jewish president overseeing ‘the plan’ who kept on trying to ‘defend’ Bakhmut when arguably it had little military strategic use or value . . . apart from leading your army to the slaughter. And hasn’t Blackrock been buying up agricultural land along with signing agreements for post war ‘development’ – who would know how those are actually worded or what sort of ‘penalty’ clauses or non-delivery clauses these contracts might contain favouring Blackrock & perhaps whoever controls them. I can just about guarantee that Blackrock will be employing the far, far smarter, sneakier, “winninger”, lawyers.
Many may say ‘farfetched’ but history has shown that the Zionists spend decades, sometimes half a century or more laying the groundwork & putting in place people & stuff that will bring their plans to fruition.
Opening a restaurant in America must be a very serious business? No? Half million troops, carpet bombing including using napalms, huge money spent etc. and over a million people killed on both sides of the Vietnam war only to make sure the Vietnamese get their restaurant licenses, paperwork straight?
US education really is poor when looking at Vietnam and Ukraine. The Ukraine is the border region of the Russian Empire part of The Pale to which Jews were restricted.
That is the reason that Blinken is out to punish Russians for his grandfather‘s life in Kiev.
ALL People in The Ukraine speak Russian or they could not have functioned. The USA created the Nationalist Trope to isolate Russians and create a Sudetenland situation just as in the Baltic States but Donbass was always Russian even if the major cities were founded by a Welshman and a Scotsman under Catherine The Great before George Washington took office
Vietnam was a French colony fighting a war to de colonise. US supported India and Israel against a British occupation but supported France in Indo-China and opposed Britain and France in Egypt
The Ukraine is Soviet Union. The only time in history that Ukraine has asserted itself as a nation is under German sponsorship 1918, 1941, 1991……much as Germany destroyed Yugoslavia for its satrapy Croatia
This is more akin to WW1 in Europe where US as with Germany 1914 set out to destroy Russia as a power and plunged the continent into destruction ……. US then joined that war 1917 to prolong it and get a seat at the table crashing the mess in Central Europe that created the Second War…….
1919 US joined invasion of Russia
1945 US started division of Germany and 1949 created a new German State which it re-armed 1955
Vietnam is an American reference meaningless to Europeans who have Verdun and a British relief offensive on The Somme costing 60,000 dead on 1 July 1916 alone
Europe does not need Vietnam references but US does because it KNOWS no European history which is why it should exit Europe which is going to collapse
“Europe does not need Vietnam references but US does …”
As Mark Twain famously quipped, “God created war so that Americans would learn some geography.”
The only historical analogy I can see between Vietnam and Ukraine is the apparent cost/benefit ratio between US & Russia (now, USSR then). In Vietnam, US committed massively on-ground and suffered great numbers of casualties, as well as enormous domestic political strife. USSR provided N.Vietnam with materiel but did not commit troops. US: huge cost, no benefit. USSR: little cost, great benefit (if the aim was to hurt US).
Now, it appears the US ‘leadership’ (scare quotes deliberate) thinks it is reversing this: US provides materiel and no (officially) on-ground forces. Russia is strongly committed on-ground. Remember what that war-mongering c*nt Lindsay Graham said to Zelensky about American arms being used to kill Russians: “Best money we’ve ever spent.” There is also the secondary gain of enriching certain American corporations and tertiary gain of (up to now) driving Europe away from Russia economically and politically – more gain for US economy.
Of course, this is all short-sighted rubbish and speaks of a real lack of long term strategic thinking. In the long run, the natural situation is Russian resources + European (mostly German) industrial knowhow = prosperity for all. The problem, of course, being that leaves little room for US (and UK) influence.
We are unquestionably cursed to “live in interesting times.”
Kind regards.
“In the long run, the natural situation is Russian resources + European (mostly German) industrial knowhow = prosperity for all. The problem, of course, being that leaves little room for US (and UK) influence.”
The largest trading partner of EU is China – that will not change.
As for Germany, its days as an industrial power and export nation are over.
It has a demographic problem – it simply has no workers – across the board – 25% SMEs cannot recruit – the Bundeswehr has 20,000 vacancies above grunt level – there are shortages everywhere from retail staff to doctors to bus drivers to HGV drivers……….
It sold much of its key industrial base to China – KUKA Robotics for instance; the largest shareholders in Daimler-Benz are Chinese; ICE engines for Mercedes have been outsourced to Geely in China –
Germany cannot make a car without Chinese sub-assemblies
Everything in Germany has Chinese components – USA is not able to supply them – US imports too
Germany will go the way of the UK.
Already major investment has ceased in Germany – Scholz promised manufacturing €0,06/kWh whereas they are paying €0,40/kWh for electricity – they cannot make any profit……
Already cities are running into bankruptcy as Gewerbesteuer (Business Taxes) are falling – Ludwigshafen – home to BASF is crashing as BASF starts mass-firings to cut €1 billion from costs and shut down production facilities like ammonia
Germany is running huge budget deficits and mounting debt interest – all real estate development has ceased – it costs – thanks to Greens – €500,000 more to build a new apartment than it did 3 years ago and noone can make money at rents below €18/m2……and noone can pay those prices
Major cities are unaffordable – Munich cannot recruit – noone can afford rents
Germany is a dog that has had its day
“Germany is a dog that has had its day”
Sadly, a great pity if so.
Worryingly, the German disposition (is reasonable to call it a national trait?) to, um, embrace extremism when things go wrong.
As Tom Lehrer sang with maximum sarcasm back in the 60s, “We taught them a lesson in 1918 and they’ve hardly bothered us since then …” 🙂
But must it be so? Germany did recover from the hideous destruction of WWII.
Perhaps I might have phrased the last bit of my previous post differently: cheap Russian resources are necessary for European (German) prosperity but may not be sufficient. I do recall the BASF chairman warning (a year or more ago?) that BASF would be out of business without access to Russian energy.
Yes, it has and good point Paul. I spent time in Germany in the Army. Based in Trier. And it was wonderful back in the 70’s. I was there again about 7 years ago. A complete shitshow. Ran into a German police officer on a train and we talked shop. And he was very “circumspect”. I told him we had a 4 hour layover at the Cologne train station. Being incredibly careful about what he said. “Don’t leave the station. Try to find a corner. Sit on your luggage”. I disregarded and looked out the front doors at the big square. It looked like fucking Somalia. Inside the train station whores and junkies were openly conducting business. And the trains were running late. When I was there in the 70’s? You could set your watch by the trains.
And graffiti. People say this shit is urban art. Bullshit. I can tell you whether you have a functional society or not by the taggers. And on that note, I have been watching a lot of Russian travel YouTubes. No graffiti on the trains or stations. No trash on the ground.
When savages can deface public and private property? You are done.
Russian resources+ German industrial know-how?
Doubt Russia wants to go down that rathole again.
It should hopefully be Russian resources for Russians.
@ Paul Greenwood
“US supported India and Israel against a British occupation ”
Pray tell when this miracle happened? Just India will suffice.
The loss of our colony in southern Vietnam was not caused by a lack of funding, bombing restrictions, nor anti-war protests.
https://youtu.be/uvMqbBIo5co?list=PLBA3ijso0hT3ZaiOZLytwMfZ8bj6VFECt&t=24
No one is going to tell you that the inner circle knows the war is lost. The messaging from the core at the moment is tight and intended to distance it from the rumbles of discontent, but worry Ukraine enough to force it to double down. The object is to drive Russia to do a deal the US can sell as a win. But look at the facts on the ground- economic and political as well as military. There is zero gain to the US now in continuing this war and massive downside risk. And it is unlikely to keep europe on board over the winter.
What you are hearing is what Russia (and Ukraine) is supposed to believe, and viz Ukraine, the message is that those with the power are currently holding out against internal discontent at slow progress- meaning ‘ramp it up, guys, stop being “casualty averse”.
The US is running against the clock. It has to be out before another deadlock winter sets in. Ukraine will go on as it had been for the last decade if it can get away with doing it on external funds- namely desultory border warfare with new terrorist powers bolted on, and incidental persecutions of Russians to boot. It is already trying to dig in for that….. and the US core knows it. Tricky. If the west is going to betray Ukraine it needs to disable it first.
“No one is going to tell you that the inner circle knows the war is lost” You just did, thanks for the excellent analysis.
I think Larry just stumbled upon the solution!!! The United States already has a “miracle weapon” and it is FINANCIAL.
All Janet Yellen has to do is confiscate the Department of Defense’s budget for a year and pay every Russian soldier a million dollars (and a plot of BLM land) to come over to NATO’s side. With a trillion dollars, they could immediately pay off the entire Russian Army, of a million soldiers, and then, with additional Congressional appropriations , they could pay off the replacement troops faster than Putin can mobilize/recruit them. The United States has enough money to make every Russian soldier Putin fields against the West an instant millionaire. As Larry said, we already spent ~500 billion on Ukraine, which would have been enough to pay off 500,000 Russian soldiers.
What they should do immediately is start filling the cluster bombs they sent over with US dollar bills, to give the Russian troops “a taste” of the prosperity that awaits them in the West.
Airborne Leaflet Propaganda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_leaflet_propaganda
Pack those babies with US currency and start lobbing them over the Surovikin Line !!!
I understood from Doug MacGregor in conversation with Tucker that every adult working American today has a $250,000 mortgage on US Debt………..it is not as if Pentagon spending is “funded”
Scholz and the Berlin regime call this a “Sondervermoegen” so each American Adult can rejoice in his “Special Asset” !
I doubt Russians want to share the burden
Actually Col McGregor said this $250,000 debt each American taxpayer carries is just for foreign military adventures since 2000 at a cost of $14 Trillion
Each American taxpayer also carries another $300,000+ on the remaining $18.5 Trillion US Government debt.
Back to work slaves.
Yellin doesn’t work for the USA. She works for the old money European families.
Nulan keeps starting wars for the stockholders of the MIC and Yellin keeps financing them with uS bond sales to increasingly reluctant China.
There are a lot of data points indicating a ground swell against North of Richmond and they have started, in Canada, a new Covid, a Mail-In Ballot Covid (MBC). The clowns are building many contingencies. Let’s see what the Cunning of Reason has in store for them.
Tobapyw Mapwal,
Please excuse the fake Azbuka…
Must say you are a talented Satirist…
😂
That’s the best comedy line I’ve heard in 10 years!! 🙂 Thank you!
And people say Russians have no sense of humor.
Sadly, our current, imagined rulers of the USA would have believed your idea, if they’d thought of it first.
Would have been the Sting of the Ages. Imagine their dull surprise when, if tried, it didn’t work.
The send money tactics worked well in Iraq. Here, they did offer a million dollars to Russian pilots thad defect with plane. Russian pilots asked for location of airport to land, and sent missiles there.
Russians are firing propaganda shells, filled with leaflets that look like Ukrainian hryvnia. On them they print instructions to surrender. 🙂
” The object is to drive Russia to do a deal the US can sell ”
You do realise that in Minsk I and Minsk II the Russians now see one of Hitler’s “Non-Aggression Pacts” which as Merkel (born 1954 in Hamburg) has confirmed………
ALL that effort by Adenauer, Erhard, Kiesinger, Brandt, Schmidt, Kohl to try rebuild trust with USSR/Russia and the postwar generation Merkel, Scholz et al throw it all away……..
Who would ever trust ANY Agreement with USA ????? Iran ? Russia ? Iraq ? Libya ? Assange ?
Even Native Americans now have reservations……..
“Even Native Americans now have reservations……”
Good one.🤣
No more. Devon Archer sold them to a Chinese conglomerate.
If I were China, I’d start planting arrays of ground sensors across the country, because at the speed that Washington is digging itself into a hole, it may end up surprising China with an attack from below.
No clever democracy makes the mistake of trying to suppress dissenting voices (not beyond a certain covert manoeuvring). It seeks to use them.
US foreign policy is a chimera.
vietnam was a guerilla war.
they had the natural conditions for that : jungle.
Same in Afghanistan : mountains.
In Ukraine there is one of that.
Open battles on the field.
totally different.
The only way that would perhaps change something is, if Nato goes “all in”.
This would be the end, for the whole world
sorry. had an error. I meant
In Ukraine there none of the natural conditions for a guerilla war
Unfortunately, there are. Relative ease of access behind the lines for Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
The Ukrainians have a bit of an advantage in weeding out the reverse. The Gestapo like tactics of the SBU, plus the habit of snatching any warm body off the streets and into the trenches. Makes it tougher on saboteurs and spies.
Natural conditions for a guerilla war are in the Western Ukraine, where Banderites already fought it after the end of WWII. That’s why Russians don’t want to go there.
The guerrilla war was over after 1968 Tet, when the Viet Cong were decimated. Afterwards it was the NVA, and they fought a pretty much conventional war, especially in the north in I Corps, when they occasionally deployed tanks.
I suspect when the US generals talk of creating a new Vietnam in 404 they see themselves as the Soviets and Ukraine as the North – they expect to be on the winning side this time.
IIRC we learned that a lot of the pre-war training was designed to recreate the OUN. They expected Russia to overrun the country and face a NATO trained insurgent army. Back to Plan A?
Yep. That’s why they didn’t bother sending tanks and artillery before the war. Insurgents get standard US terrorist kit: Stingers and ATGMs.
Like with Afghanistan, The US should be concerned with all the weapons it provided to Ukraine that have been resold to 3rd parties. The Mexican drug cartels are now better trained and equipped than many regular armies and they certainly have very deep finances. Given the woke factor eroding US military power, only the tier 1 JSOC units are likely to perform well against them, and they are small in number and ultimately not immune to the woke nonsense either. If all that tier 1 super soldier training was going to make a difference, they would have won in Afghanistan and everywhere else they were sent. The cartels are the Mexican nation at this point and the central government is a compromised facade just as the Afghan one was. The Uniparty presidential candidates make big talk about making war against them with impunity as if they could. What would happen is that after the Mexican government vanishes and the cartels assume open control of the state, most off the Southwest US would be swept away in the cartel counter-attack.
Larry – Maybe the military is taking this Vietnam line because they know if they tell Biden and State it’s a lost cause those neo-cons will go in and save Ukraine. Probably saving us from WW3 while these nuts are in power.
Most people have the misconception that USSR won World War II
That is because of Eisenhower’s foolish decision to refuse William Simpson’s 9th Army, which had little resistance around the Magdeburg sector (the German commander facing them, Walter Wenck, actually went thru pains to surrender to the Americans with the remnants of the German 9th Army running from Zhukov) which would have walked into the Bunker within a couple days.
Eisenhower’s foolish decision saved a few thousand ‘American Lives’, which would later be wasted anyways in a place called Korea, a place few Americans heard or cared about. I personally think USA should have ditched it and drop a couple hydrogen bombs as farewell gifts, but that’s another story.
Eisenhower’s foolish decision led the rest of the world to believe that USSR won World War 2, especially the Russians themselves.
My understanding is not that they “won” it, but that they did most of the heavy lifting and paid the highest price.
And that without their gigantic contribution, the war may have not been won.
Without the massive lend lease it would have folded by the end of 1942
They would have ran out of Vodka.
Are you on meth? If the USSR didn’t “win” WWII then who did?
Take your time answering, I can wait until you are out of rehab.
Without the Soviet armies bleeding the Germans white, at TREMENDOUS cost in lives, the Allied invasion of France in ’44 could well have failed or been seriously delayed. VERY few battle hardened divisions were facing the Allies in Normandy. Young boys, older men & recovering wounded made up the numbers in many divisions with the best tanks & mechanical equipment sent to the Eastern Front trying to stem the advancing Soviet Armies. I know Pedowood / Hollywood has pumped out “We won the War” movies for 70 odd years but it was the Soviets in particular who deserve the majority of the credit for the defeat of the Germans. Pretty much every Russian family lost at least one family member, sometimes more in “The Great Patriotic War” as it’s remembered.
Well, for your Information: The Soviet Union destroyed 80% of the German Army, while western “Powers” were distracted by bombing civilians. In fact, The West has never won a war. They don’t even know hoe to fight one. the only thing they know is how to wipe out civilians with carpet bombing and Agent Orange.
That would have been the supreme f’k you to Stalin, sacrificing millions only to be denied the final prize at the last minute. His authority undermined, he might survive till his death but the USSR, and Russia, etc would not have survived too long after that
Dismembering Russia would not have led us to this situation
Every time someone says “Dismembering Russia”, Nuland has an Orgasm.
With the Star and Stripes at the Brandenburg gate (the Soviets just chose the Reichstag, which was actually empty after the infamous fire and never restored, because they were fighting there) and the Quadriga shipped to the Smithsonian, the people of USSR would have learned that all the blood was for nothing.
Eisenhower foolishly respected the Soviets and helped to cause the Cold War.
Yea, respecting anyone is a biggest mistake a Murican can make.
No, Reichstag was not ”empty”.
”By the next day, 30 April, the Soviets had solved their bridging problems and with artillery support at 06:00 they launched an attack on the Reichstag, but because of German entrenchments and support from 12.8 cm FlaK 40 guns 2 km (1.2 mi) away on the roof of the Zoo flak tower, close by Berlin Zoo, it was not until that evening that the Soviets were able to enter the building.[89]
The Reichstag had not been in use since it had burned in February 1933 and its interior resembled a rubble heap more than a government building. The German troops inside were heavily entrenched,[90] and fierce room-to-room fighting ensued. At that point there was still a large contingent of German soldiers in the basement who launched counter-attacks against the Red Army.[90] By 2 May 1945 the Red Army controlled the building entirely.[91]
The famous photo of the two soldiers planting the flag on the roof of the building is a re-enactment photo taken the day after the building was taken.[92] To the Soviets the event as represented by the photo became symbolic of their victory demonstrating that the Battle of Berlin, as well as the Eastern Front hostilities as a whole, ended with the total Soviet victory.[93] As the 756th Regiment’s commander Zinchenko had stated in his order to Battalion Commander Neustroev “… the Supreme High Command … and the entire Soviet People order you to erect the victory banner on the roof above Berlin”.[90]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Berlin
”Eisenhower foolishly respected the Soviets and helped to cause the Cold War.”
No, the attack on Berlin by the Russians only, was a political and not a military decision, because the Americans at that time did not want the English (Churchill and Montgomery) to be part of it.
Eisenhower did not respect the Soviets.
On the 25th of July, 1945, after the success of the atomic bomb (July 16,1945), he met President Truman in Potsdam and he persuaded him to change entirely the prosoviet/ antiCityofLondon policy of President Roosevelt. (In letters to his wife, Truman has written many times about his admiration for Ike.) Thus the Cold War begun, along with the Strategic Partnership of London and Washington.
Are you kidding me? Look at the Russian and German casualties. We lost 200K people in the European theater. Which is not a fucking drop versus the 60 MILLION. We got there after the war was over. Russia defeated Germany. Period.
Not sure Eisenhower was wrong even if Churchill wanted 21st Army Group to take Berlin………
Soviet soldiers took 8,000 prisoners in fighting room-by-room in the Reichstag which means they lost a lot of men……….taking a city the size of Berlin – 170,000 dead soldiers in that battle……..900km2 making it bigger than Dallas, TX………costs……
Taking Berlin first would have served Churchill perfectly, but he was none too fussed how many men died to attain his objectives……………
Russia won WW II, and would have done so even if the US had stayed out of Europe.
That is total BULLSHIT!
Your ignorance on this issue is stunning. You’re wrong. Read some history.
Americans take Berlin, take a few thousand losses, and let the Soviets die for Japan.
The Soviets would probably have felt that they were cheated. What would they do? Just gnashing tooth and cursing, that’s all.
They would have questioned what the hell they did. All of these for , basically, nothing. It would probably have robbed any legitimacy to the Soviet, and later Russian, regime and Putin would not have felt empowered to invite George W Bush to Moscow in 2005. In fact there would be no Russia by that point of time, having dissolved again and again in a series of civil wars.
The loss of US hegemony because of Russia means the loss of basically all the good lifestyle the Americans had. I don’t think you want to live like what a typical , say, Bulgarian lives now.
It was necessary to rob the Soviets the final prize, to tone them down and learn the real lesson of real world that they were just paper tigers supported by tons of US goods. Instead Russia is about to overwhelm the civilized world.
I have no love to the current brand of politicians but if they are defeated a deprivation which would make post- Versailles Germany look like a sea of abundance will await the people of North America.
“Russia is about to overwhelm the civilized world.”
Kiev?
Fuck off you lying piece of shit.
You must have went to public school if you are actually stupid enough to believe that garbage.
Winston explained it very well.
“I have left the obvious, essential fact to this point, namely, that it is the Russian Armies who have done the main work in tearing the guts out of the German army. In the air and on the oceans we could maintain our place, but there was no force in the world which could have been called into being, except after several more years, that would have been able to maul and break the German army unless it had been subjected to the terrible slaughter and manhandling that has fallen to it through the strength of the Russian Soviet Armies.”
– Winston Churchill, 1944
“manhandling”
Now we know why LGBT hates Russians.
Kids, this is what changing meth dealer does to people.
The 40 million Russians who were killed in WWII say you are ful of shit.
That figure comes from thre official Russian Government Office that is still trying to total the deaths of WWII, and includes civilians as well as military casualties.
On behalf of those 40 million, and my dead relatives from WWII (I’m from Poland) I just wanted to tell you to fuck right the hell off, you lying piece of shit. You are a fucking moron.
As Ray McGovern, veteran CIA, said recently, the really dangerous problem is this :
Biden, Sullivan, et al keep pushing the Ukraine Project, but remember Clinton. He had a Lewinsky problem, and bombed Sudan to divert attention.
Biden, and Sullivan could possibly face trial over Hunter and Russiagate.
See this from Putin’s perspective – what will they do to divert attention?
No one knows , yet right now there is the Niger crisis.
Clinton bombed Sudan out of pure spite. The Lewinsky ‘problem’ was giving him such a headache, he decided ‘Hell, I’ll just bomb that aspirin factory over there.” Misery loves company.
You think I’m kidding, right? A cursory inspection of his’better half’ HClinton’s behavior over the years begs to differ.
Winning , loosing … how to define it ?
If the Banderistan is changed into a graveyard and Russia manage to have in the end the security guaranties they were looking for from the beginning , what did Russia loose ?
Brandon is the guy that just “won” Afghanistan remember … he know what he is talking about :p .
I doubt Russia will be happy until ‘Banderastan’ is the size of a 7/11 in downtown LA and looks about the same. The rest of Ukraine can then rebuild itself into something the folks can finally be proud of.
And here is why they think that. There is ZERO pressure to end this before the 2024 election. They already know Biden is going to win. Ignore all the histrionics. The 35% Trump fanatics of the Republican party nominate him. Trump loses to Biden again. The end. So, Vietnam redux.
And with that in mind, they can play the long and wear down Russia game. Mind you, I do not think that it “works”. But it does serve a purpose. Because Russia does not win by winter. Give me a fucking break. There will be no big arrow offensives with complete ISR coverage. Russia is casualty adverse. If Ukraine just goes on defense, they can string this out for years.
And during those years? Europe dies as an economic competitor. And they turn into a complete vassal state buying our military weapons and LNG. This does weaken Russia. War is fucking expensive. Russia cannot afford to lose people. They have their own demographic problems. The US is the only country in the world with “good” population growth. Due to those wonderful Hispanics who actually have skills and a work ethic.
And the US affords it because the dollar is still the reserve currency, and we got the printing presses.
Does it work in the long run? No. Russia wins the whole game. But ‘Murica and Joe Biden think on a 4-year election cycle. That is ‘Murican long term planning. We will be talking about the Ukraine war for years and years. In our small bubble chamber. Because the press will eliminate it from the news cycle. We can sit here and us proud 40 or 50 folks can fulminate and comment. The war will go on.
Fulminating and commenting sure beats being fumigated and bombed.
Now if those trench rats with smartphones and Starlink could only see that!
Actually I think they do – all bets are off for what happens next.
Biden ain’t going to win jack.
With lock downs and mail in ballots a near certainty, the uniparty with some figurehead will continue the destruction of America.
Russia ain’t letting this thing drag on for years.
Russia knows the weapons and ammunition from the West are running out, as is the human resource in Ukraine.
This will be largely over by next spring at the latest.
There is no way Russia is allowing the west a chance to rebuild and rearm Ukraine again.
Don’t forget Putin also has an election next year. He is likely to want a decisive win in Ukraine before then so he can run as the calm, cool and collected leader who out foxxed and out matched the western “leadership”- and returned most of Ukraine to the Russian family- at the same time improving the Russian economy and the future of its citizens.
America and Europe are no longer the center of the world.
America in particular is rapidly heading to international pariah state status.
In the end this will be good for America. With bankruptcy they will be forced to dramatically shrink their global military presence and military spending.
The unfolding economic collapse is going to be on a scale never before in history.
They will be forced to turn inward. Highly likely some form of revolution in America is ahead.
Nick, where do I start? I think you agree Biden will be back? Just not that he “wins”? We are not in disagreement there. When the Dims won the battleground Wisconsin State Supreme Court, it was over. The fix is in. But he or a similar figurehead will be in place.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on the timeline. Russia also has an iron in this fire. They are demilitarizing Europe. And Russia does not care how long it takes. And Putin is winning by a huge majority even if the war goes on. And Russia unlike us and the EU actually values their soldiers. They try to not get them killed. And quick offenses are expensive.
And we agree again. After we fuck around and find out by “beating” China over Taiwan? We will be destroyed as a world power and will slink back and turn inward. And that is the problem.
When we slink back? The entire military and intelligence structure will be turned inward on the real enemy of the power structure. The citizens. There will be no revolt. There will be censorship, extrajudicial murders, and imprisonment of political prisoners on a scale that is unfathomable. They’ll be throwing people out of helicopters off Long Beach in Kalifornia before it is over.
And they will win. Because again. More than 50% of the population wants it. Biden beat Trump by over 7 million votes in the popular non electoral vote. And that margin grows daily under the influence of fat union schoolteachers, and the media, and the social influencers. I have mentioned I was a police officer. Do you know who Hitler recruited heavily? The police. They are used to shooting their own populace. Actually, more than the military. The militarization of the US police establishment is not an anomaly. They will be the Stasi.
‘Murica.
Hi Curt. Hi Nick.
Both of y’all make some good points. Hard to figure which way it’ll go, because it’s hard to know a man’s true character until he actually has to demonstrate it.
The ONLY thing I know for sure is that those among us who still love Sleepy Joe, and /or eat the MSM crap sandwich on the C-19 swindle, are all lining up for booster jabs and masks. There is no cure for these Retards. Me, I think they got addicted to FreddyKruger flicks, and only feel “normal” when they’re scared. So, of course they want Big Daddy Govt. to “save” their asses. They’ll gladly board the cattle cars bound for the furnace, cause Big Daddy will tell them it’s the only way to safety.
Just gonna have to stock up on weps & ammo, and be ready for the zombies to come over the hill. Don’t forget to save a few rounds for our globalist friends. They’re the §¥€|<$ we really need to send to paradise.
Happy Hunting, Boys😇!!
There will be no cattle cars for the retard enablers you speak of, the covid jabs they keep taking will do the job,
Elensky’s English is improving. He might be a candidate to become an F16 pilot.
I presume Johnson gave him a British Passport so I expect to see him in the House of Lords………probably alongside Evgeny Alexandrovich Lebedev, having been created Baron Lebedev, of Hampton in the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames and of Siberia in the Russian Federation
https://members.parliament.uk/member/4900/contact
BoJo even offered a Gov’t-in-Exile. Elensky may have to take offer that up.
Hell, UK could even offer the old CSA Consulate in Liverpool!
https://ldhi.library.cofc.edu/exhibits/show/liverpools-abercromby-square/abercromby-southern-club/embassy-confederacy
But his froggy voice is still begging ‘how high should I jump this time?’
All of this ignores the obvious overbearing 800 lb gorilla in the room: the military industrial complex.
All Presidents (and all federal politicians) serve at the will of the MIC. If you need proof remember JFK and look at what has been done to Trump by the political stooges of the MIC. If he wins another election they will have no choice but to whack him.
Of the $100B plus spent on “supporting” Ukraine, the lion’s share has gone straight to “defense” contractors – despite the US not having been attacked since 1941 (which according to the McCollum memo was instigated by the US).
Ukraine is an opportunity to ‘use up’ (dispose) of old wepaons so that they can (read ‘must’) be repleaced with shiny new $$$$ gear supplied by Raytheon and the host of corporations that not only supply the military but also as contractors supply and run the intelligence agencies.
The MIC has diversified itself with some $600B spent annually across all 50 states, assuring political support for “jobs” which are in reality huge profit centers for the most destructive forces on the planet. But this pales in comparison to the windfall provided under the guise of “defending” Ukraine from a war instigated (again) by the US.
Coming Soon: Defending Taiwan from Chinese Aggression
“That war was sold as a necessary mission to combat the spread of international communism, …”
AKA those damn Rooskies. The more things change, the more they stay the same. This cartoon from 1925. was posted here in the comments yesterday:
https://twitter.com/propagandopolis/status/1641516106291486744
what’s the mission? the Desired Outcome?
Americans are stressed, confused, divided & … conquered?
Root cause analysis: what’s missing? Mission & methods, as always.
We have the crudest way imaginable for recruiting & shaping the actions of large aggregates. We keep using those crude methods on bigger & bigger aggregates … instead of sitting down, analyzing and defining what more agile aggregate-organization might look like, and then inventing methods DESIGNED to deliver that Desired Outcome.
Desired Outcomes drive methods.
Methods drive results.
If we don’t state the mission, methods won’t align to getting us there.
We’ve had it all along. “In order to create a more perfect union.” It’s all there. Ignored.
As a result …. methods deliver random results. All we do is push $ around. No mission to align efforts & methods to.
Ironically, the only people that nail this are sports coaches. “There’s no ‘I’ in team.”
What are kids to think? That trivia, or highly ritualized entertainment, drives all results?
Nonscalable Desired Outcomes don’t drive scalable methods.
That approach isn’t a scalable process.
What’s shocking is that they even are using the Vietnam propaganda lingo to push the US into this war, as Col. McGregor quoted some Vietnam-era Senator: “We fight in Vietnam so we don’t have to fight them in LA.”
There should be some kind of very serious penalties for inciting the war, and pushing the US into the war under false pretenses and for own profit.
Money Quote (@~19:30):
Judge: “How could the American people tolerate this?”
Larry “Well, they shouldn’t.”
Yeah…but they do.
Interesting timez…
Comparing Vietnam and World War II to the current situation in Ukraine requires careful consideration of the distinct contextual factors at play. It is imperative to acknowledge that the contemporary military landscape presents conditions that were absent during those earlier conflicts.
In the present day, Russia boasts a formidable military apparatus characterized by advanced Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (C4ISR) capabilities. This sophistication is further augmented by a substantial arsenal of precision munitions, which notably includes hypersonic missiles. These technological advancements afford Russia a series of decisive advantages over the Ukrainian military, which predominantly adheres to a maneuver warfare doctrine while possessing limited anti-aircraft capabilities and lacking air superiority.
Underpinning Russia’s dominance is its ability to harness real-time intelligence through a multifaceted network encompassing surveillance drones, satellites, and ground-based sensors. This informational supremacy facilitates a comprehensive grasp of the battlefield dynamics, encompassing insights into adversary movements and exploitable vulnerabilities. This intelligence is effectively leveraged in tandem with precision munitions capable of pinpointing and incapacitating critical enemy assets, such as command centers, supply depots, communication nodes, and artillery positions. In the vast expanse of the Ukrainian terrain, these advantages virtually negate the feasibility of effective maneuverability.
In essence, the Pentagon must know Ukraine is lost. The question is whether the U.S. will escalate or not. If the path of escalation is chosen, is there an alternative to maneuver warfare that the U.S. has? Where is the nuclear threshold at the tactical level for the U.S.?
Like southfront, strategic-culture now removed from the internet. Let’s hope they had as good a mirror as southfront.press.
Clearly the US administration is ignoring the 1st amendment censorship case. This is a coup.
Larry, I hope you are set up for this contingency.
It has been said that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, but those who learn from history are destined to repeat it differently.
… to rhyme it differently..
There, fixed it for ya!
Yevgeny Prigozhin reported killed in private plane crash. Fuck around and find out.
“Prigozhin Down”
I was not expecting that book/film until at least next year.
Bit confused by these reports from Tver that Prigozhin‘s plane crashed and 10 are dead……..and that a second Prigozhin plane en-route to St Petersburg changed course for Moscow……or reports that Russian air defences shot it down
Maybe this is the real maskirovka. 🙂
And now Prigozhin and Utkin are dead? Intriguing stuff!
If plane flew from Africa back to Russia today who guarded it at the airport in wherever in Africa he landed ?
Presumably it was a different plane. I assume this was an internal flight, and they left Africa on a bigger plane and changed. I don’t know? Do you?
WEAPONS AND SECURITY BY STEPHEN BRYEN
A Pretty Terrible Ending
Prigozhin, Utkin Reportedly Dead in Plane Crash
Stephen Bryen
https://weapons.substack.com/p/a-pretty-terrible-ending
I just read this on his substack. The next few days of this storyline are going to be wild.
Prigozhin’s death:
For me, according to the current indications, a classic secret service action.
The media hell machine is breaking over Russia again.
If Putin does not explain to his people in two or three days what has happened here, this could be his exit.
Drones are falling on Moscow every day,
2 x sabotage on the Crimean Bridge , every day residential houses burn, companies and rails explode.
The operational security situation in Russia is unstable.
The crew around Putin no longer seems vital.
After all the events, there should have been a change of personnel in the leadership of the domestic intelligence services.
The BRICS meet was countered by Russia’s fatal defensive blunders!!!!!!
They are killing each other:
At Wagner 1
and now at
Wagner 2.
All this does not look sovereign in the area of internal security.This must be relentlessly worked through.
The Russian people have already had to endure a lot.
Who should the soldiers at the front still trust?
Maybe you shoud fix your own country first, before lecturing Russians.
You are about as far off base as possible. A man that tried to start a civil war while Russia was at war got his. A man that killed Russian soldiers in a helicopter got his. A traitor to his country was executed. Vladimir Putin just solidified power. If I was a Russian soldier? I would be drinking a vodka toast to a man you do NOT FUCK WITH. Which is what you want as a leader as a soldier when you are at war.
Inclined to agree with you Curt
“Who should the soldiers at the front still trust?”
President V.V. Putin.
As they still do.
Thomas
They should trust ze German Internet troll.
Putin rushes to Moscow – there is real steam in the hut!!!
Vladimir Putin returned to Moscow in a hurry from his opening of the Kursk Memorial complex, which was inaugurated today to commemorate the anniversary of the end of the decisive battle for Kursk in World War II
The president’s motorcade was filmed in the Russian capital.
https://t.me/russlandsdeutsche/20440
Citizens laid the first flowers in front of Prigozhin’s cafe in St. Petersburg.
The slow progress of the war also has its downside, it gives the others the opportunity to work with proxies and hybrids. Especially in the interior!!!!
I can also win a war with them.
If it is a secret operation, then the traitors are deep in the Russian system and are putting all their eggs in one basket for a civil war.
Putin should no longer leave Moscow, for his own safety and to be able to react operationally.
Not to count out, he would be in South Africa.
You should tell Sholtz what he should do.
What those generals fail to comprehend is that creating a new Vietnam for Russia may not mean what they think it means.
https://www.rbth.com/blogs/2015/04/30/vietnam_war_the_critical_role_of_russian_weapons_42917
Fake?
Has a Chinese Submarine Crashed in the Taiwan Strait? What We Know
https://www.newsweek.com/china-submarine-crash-taiwan-strait-miitary-drills-1821787
Xi also did not give a speech at the BRICS kick-off event.
There has also been little to see so far.
We live in some interesting times.
I wish you would post something about all the stuff we hear about important Russians falling out of windows in tall buildings and such like.
You mean James Forrestal ?
Or do you mean Vince Foster ?
Or Barry Seal ?
Going hunting with Dick Cheney ?
Going home like Seth Rich ?
Audi problems like Michael Hastings ?
How many did I miss in the list ?
A very strong factor that casts doubt on speculation that this was an assassination ordered by Putin is its appalling timing from Russia’s perspective. Indeed given this is exactly sort of headline grabbing event that would suck all of the oxygen out of the spectacular success of the 2023 BRICS Summit that closes today, it adds weight to the proposition of MI6 / CIA involvement.
I am posting this on multiple sites because I have not seen any commentary on it.
I hope Larry will address it as an article as it is due consideration.
Q: Is it possible that the Russian industrial base is unable to support 500k+ in a high intensity conflict, and that is the reason that, despite mobilization, the much larger army has not engaged. The Russians have successfully supported that lower 100-150k force stand-off fires requirement and upped the ante on ISR and air power and newer equipment, also through innovative use and integration of their systems, but maybe industrial support of a much larger force is “a bridge too far”. We needed 2 years to prepare for Normandy and 9 months to prepare for the first Iraq invasion that lasted all of two weeks.
E.g. If a force 75-100k expended up to 20000 rounds of 155mm daily, what would a force of 300k expend?
https://sonar21.com/so-much-for-wonder-weapons/#comment-150402
Larry, my apologies for my previous comments above. That clueless moron just made me see red.