I was delighted to be invited to do another program with Judge Napolitano. We kick off the show talking about Russia downing the U.S. MQ 9 Reaper drone.
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SOmeOnesays
it was not a MQ 9 Reaper it was RQ4 Global Hawk that goes by the CODENAME FORTE10
MonkeyWerks.com often shows Forte10 US drone over the Black SEA in his Situation Reports using SKYGLASS and other airline tracking software.
His recent comment was wondering why the drone had not already been shot down!
Hi Larry, as a casual plane geek I’ve been watching the aviation activity on FlightRadar24 & Skyglass since last March. Normally, there is a RQ-4B Global Hawk flying regularly over the Black Sea. There have been 2 I’ve seen: Forte 10 and Forte 12. For a while they were accompanied by 2 NATO AWACS (Boeing EA-3 Sentry): NATO 11 (Turkey) or NATO 01 (Germany) which circle over Constanta, Romania. Sometimes you see a USAF or RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint instead. There is a definitive area over the Black Sea where no air traffic operates since the beginning of the conflict – that’s where the drone flies.
In late January, I was watching the RQ-4B and it veered off its usual course – a figure 8 pattern – and went right over Sevastapol. I also noticed a new plane over Romania – a Navy P-8A Poseidon which is supposed to be updated to be a flying command center to coordinate all land/air/sea operations. This is about the time I started hearing a lot of talk from the West and Ukraine about Crimea. If this was a MQ-9 the Russians brought down, the difference is that it can be armed. Its a “hunter-killer” and it can carry Hellfires, Sidewinders & JDAM and probably some other goodies.
Gotta love the Russian take-down method. Obviously the Russians wanted to try and bring it down and recover it (supposedly they did recover it or are actively doing so now), especially if it was armed. It also kind of says “we can bring down your fancy toys without firing a shot” LOL. I did see the activity on FlightRadar24 yesterday, but I didn’t screenshot it as I sometimes do. There was a drone – I don’t remember if it was the RQ-4B or MQ-9 and a couple of its pals flying over Romania – an older Navy prop plane and an Italian Dassault Falcon or something similar (those are common in the area, too. I’m sure the Russians know its not a civilian plane lol).
I note you comment as follows: It also kind of says “we can bring down your fancy toys without firing a shot” LOL
That was my first thought when hearing how the Russian pilot(s) downed the drone – extremely capable flyers having a show-off fun time.
In the event that there ever does occur direct air conflict between Russia and America-NATO then I’ll bet that it will be repeat of the surprise shock appearance of the MIGs in the Korean War that ‘pissed all over’ the America jets at that time.
Sukhois have been designed to be responsive to superbly trained and competent pilots as opposed to US fighters with over-engineered tech complexity designed according to the conceit that super-advanced tech gadgetry, designed by propellor-head boffins trying to impress, can lift performance into a new paradigm of man-machine singularity. F35s will never be capable of competing with the Sukhois. Of course we all hope that it will never have to be proven but all indicators are that the Nazi war criminals operating out of Washington-NATO and their Ukraine lapdogs are going to push it to that unthinkable outcome.
A new expression has entered the english language. “Flying Spit”.
You can’t duck it either. It is the kind of spit that blinds you on the spot and you come tumbling down. Reminds me of the spitting cobra mambas spit.
The coat of il is not environment friendly the yankees say. Stupendous coming from the very same terrorists that blew up the Nord Stream, the greatest environmental catastrophe this side of the century.
It appears that a US surveillance RQ4 Global Hawk drone, callsign “FORTE10” went missing at 8:40:58 CET (Central European Time). The drone flew within 18 nautical miles of the Russian coastline. It was cruising at an altitude of 52k feet.
Let me add that myself and another aviation enthusiast had suspicions that this was not a reaper as we haven’t seen many in that AOR. But we have seen PLENTY of Hawks.
FORTE10’s flight data from yesterday and today has been scrubbed from tracking sites. Looks like we have a winner….. maybe
They deleted the page/data and now it says NO FLIGHTS IN THE PAST 14 DAYS.
From Monkey Werx
Around 7:25 discussion of British P8 and FORTE10 in the air. Proof that the flights occurred and have now been scrubbed. https://youtu.be/hDW65XvwfXA
Now let’s think…. reapers are armed probably 8-9/10 times. Why would you risk flying a jet that close to an armed drone and dump fuel on it? Why not just shoot it down?
So many articles called it a Reaper which carries missiles. But still packed with sensors. A Hawk is a super-sensor. If Russia discovered a Hellfire-equipped Reaper, it has to go bye bye. For once, the US is sitting on their usually chatty stance.
Good stuff with the Judge, Larry. I see the views piling up on all of the media you gents are generating. People that matter have GOT to be taking it all in. Well, I pray they are.
I’m no expert but could it have been an attempt to get the engine to die. If most of the air it ingests was replaced by a cloud of kerosene, the engine may just shut down.
Indeed! Great comment. Not to mention it being and extremely creative method of downing the drone, to be done by those “stupid, incompetent, ill-trained Russians.”
Great interview. I really enjoy the sessions with the Judge.
We finally agree on something 100% – this is – and always been – heading toward intercontinental missile exchanges, though it won’t be one-sided. Cities will be burning in countries from Russia to the EU to the US and maybe in China to (Though I kind of think the Chinese want to sit it out if they can and emerge the global sole surviving power with the whole world for the taking). Russia won’t back down in Ukraine and neither will the US/NATO. Neither side has the force to win that war decisively if NATO sends in troops and the more advanced weapons systems to assist newly trained Ukrainian troops. When the blood bath becomes too much to sustain for one or both sides, they’ll reach for “the button”.
If only Russia had attacked with sufficient force to achieve their objectives as opposed to getting bogged down and giving NATO time to adapt and act. If only Russia had actually enforced their “red lines” when they were crossed. Now Russia is going to get what they wanted to avoid and so are we all. The only way to stop this now is a new government in Washington, which I don’t happening. Otherwise, if you think you can survive the missiles, you might want to develop a taste for fried bat and learn how to eat it with chop sticks.
I invite you to Volgograd. Come and I teach you cooking then you don’t have to embarrass yourself with your military and geopolitical analysis, clearly no professional experience in either. By the way we don’t use pronouns here also
Very good reply, I hope that someday some in the US will learn that they are not the center of the universe. Sadly most people here in the US live in a vacuum and have never been outside their own cities. I would be happy to share some fried bat with you and would be honored to eat it with chopsticks. Viva Russia and China! God willing I will get out of this godforsaken country before I am forced to bow before BLM or LGB&T! Sadly the time is at hand, I trust the Lord to deliver those as He did Lot and his family out of Sodom and Gomorrah.
I would love to visit Russia to pay my respects and visit all the sites of the great battles of the Great Patriotic War about which we in the West are still too stupid and arrogant to acknowledge the truth that it was the incredible sacrifice, courage and death of tens of millions of Russian people and other people in the wider USSR who were the decisive winning factor in the destruction of the Nazi war machine in WW11.
We still have to suffer Americans and others in the Anglo-American nations claiming it was us who won that war. It is sickening in the extreme.
I wish you and your people all the very best and I pray for a swift conclusive victory over the Ukraine Nazi regime and especially eventually over the Nazis in Washington, London and Brussels; hopefully with the help of some good souls within our own nations rising up and executing proper justice to the low-life who have taken control of our governments and militaries.
By the way I have only once eaten real Russian food in Russian restaurant and it was spectacularly good cuisine – much better than the junk garbage that is increasingly replacing the good food we once had in abundance but which is now disappearing from our shelves.
I understand that the Russians have banned GMO food and crops and have banned all the big GMO corporations from Russia which is another reason why the Nazis corporations are pushing the governments they have infiltrated and control to destroy Russia – they want to turn Russia into a GMO wasteland.
Follow the money – the heirs of the Reich are slowly but surely consolidating ever more centralized corporate power over the Anglo-American nations e.g. Bayer having recently taken over Monsanto.
This from the New York Time 02 May 1999 – truly mind-blowing
THE BUSINESS WORLD; I.G. Farben: A Lingering Relic of the Nazi Years
The following sentence from the article above as follows:
After World War II, the Allies stripped the firm of most of its assets, which were transferred to the three chemical firms Bayer, Hoechst (now Aventis) and BASF
my further comment to that:
I G Farben carried on business after WW11 after a huge PR theatrical production in which the western media claimed it had been broken up and its assets transferred to other corporations.
I wonder who was behind all those 30 or more biolabs in Ukraine that Victoria Nuland admitted were set up by American interests?
Victoria Nuland admits to Bio Labs in Ukraine
I min YouTube video 13 March 2022
From the RT website as follows:
The Biden administration has passed a $40 billion aid package for Ukraine. Buried within the bill is an additional $50 million appropriated for the Department of Defense for “Research, Development, Test and Evaluation.” Why is the Department of Defense spending $50 million on research in an active war zone? On this episode of the Whistleblowers, we take a look at what we know about the existence of biolabs in Ukraine with journalist & author Patrick Lawrence.
And this article by Glenn Greenwald 10 March 2022
Victoria Nuland: Ukraine Has “Biological Research Facilities,” Worried Russia May Seize Them
When push comes to shove the US will flee Ukraine with its tail between its legs. Just like in Afghanistan, just like everywhere, anytime. No one thinks of Americans as brave (apart from themselves of course). They’re so far from Russians you can come. Fighting through proxies, paying them billions and bragging after liquidating thousands of civilians is all Amercans can do. So when the Ukrainians are dead and gone, as well as the Polish, Georgian, Baltic mercenaries, it’s all over. Americans are nothing but a bunch of loudmouthed cowards, just like their quiet little West-European vassals.
So relax, there won’t be any official NATO troops in Ukraine.
Perhaps you should educate yourself about the Soviet (not Russian!) retreat. The Afghanistan gov’t lasted for years afterwards with Soviet aid. It was the cut off of Soviet aid that led to its demise.
You can even read about it on the pro-US intel website, wikipedia
Shining the light for those who will not see, but I wonder if you’re wasting power…
Eric Newhillsays
Oh come on. The Russians lost something like 15K to 20K killed in Afghanistan in ten years and they left a flimsy government in place that lasted about as long as the South Vietnamese govt did after the US left VN.
The US lost an order of magnitude less than the Russian number in Afghanistan in double the number of years in country.
As far as making the excuse that Soviets were somehow not Russians, well that’s a double edge sword. If you want to go that route, then you can’t legitimately make statements about Russian bad-assery based on whatever they did in WW2.
What is this neurotic drive that people here have to dig as deep as possible to find and magnify every possible fault with America and, simultaneously, excuse glaring faults with Russia and China? Yes, I know that some here are paid agents of Russia and China, and some are citizens of those countries, but what drives the rest escapes me entirely – like that miserable gas bag Martyanov who has nothing good to say about the US, yet enjoys the benefits of living here.
Here’s some news for you – if the politicians didn’t order a somewhat FUBAR withdrawal from Afghanistan, then the US troops would still be there holding down the fort and not being run off, like the Russians were. Similarly, the US would still be in Vietnam and Iraq. In none of these fights did the US military get its ass kicked all the home like the Russians did. Not that I think US troops should be in those places doing those things; just saying that they could be because none of those enemies could militarily defeat the US.
crankedsays
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The US spent 19.5 years and a few trillion dollars fighting goat and sheep herders using AK47s and RPGs all for what? Then left Saigon style.
Just say NO to drugs, clown.
It would be interesting for someone with more military knowledge than myself to compare side by side in a table the Russian experience vs the American one in Afghanistan. The two would look very different, I wager.
You gotta love the way Newdill just keeps showing how stupid and ignorant he is.
And to his credit he does provide us all with great laughs because he epitomizes the classic Hollywood caricature of the fervent red neck flag-waving patriot.
Some real comparative facts for you Newdill – which you are bound to discount as conspiracy theory.
Unlike American invasion of Afghanistan the Soviets were invited into Afghanistan by then newly elected communist government after the towel-head fundamentalist goons launched jihad against that duly elected government.
The Soviet troops in Afghanistan were mostly from the Caucasus regions – with few Russians.
Soviets withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989 was incredibly well planned and executed over an extended period of time – it was nothing like the clown show American ‘tail between the legs’ frantic rout that was conducted in panic on the spur of the moment.
This from The Diplomat website:
30-Year Anniversary of Soviet Withdrawal From Afghanistan: A Successful Disengagement Operation?
The withdrawal of the Soviet 40th Army from Afghanistan from 1988 to 1989 was a militarily successful operation save one mistake.
Relations now between Afghanistan and Russia have never been better unlike relations between Afghanistan and America which are in the toilet, as are America’s relations with most every other country outside of the enslaved subject clown nations in the Anglo-American-EU train wreck.
The Taliban had dramatically reduced heroin production in early 2000 – but that all changed when America invaded Afghanistan. When America moved into Afghanistan, guns and rockets blazing, with the biggest narcotic dealing gang in the planet a.k.a. CIA that Afghani heroin production went ballistic as did the carnage it unleashed when the pure Afghani heroin hit the streets in the dirt poor broken towns and suburbs of America after they had offshored most industry to China and thrown millions of American workers under the bus.
The following article from Global Research authored by Professor Michel Chossudovsky reveals the facts
Extract from the article above as follows:
What is important to understand is that one of the key strategic objectives of the 2001 war on Afghanistan was to restore the opium trade following the Taliban government’s successful 2000-2001 drug eradication program which led to a 94% collapse in opium production. This program was supported by the United Nations. (For details, see below)
In the course of the last 19 years following the US-NATO October 2001 invasion, there has been a surge in Afghan opium production. In turn the number of heroin addicts in the US has increased dramatically. Is there a relationship?
There were 189,000 heroin users in the US in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion of Afghanistan.
By 2016 that number went up to 4,500,000 (2.5 million heroin addicts and 2 million casual users).
In 2020, at the hight of the covid crisis, deaths from opioids and drug addiction increased threefold.
It’s Big Money for Big Pharma.
The book by American Professor Alfred W McCoy is also highly revealing
The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/152038.The_Politics_of_Heroin
Book summary from the Goodreads website as follows:
The first book to prove CIA and U.S. government complicity in global drug trafficking, The Politics of Heroin includes meticulous documentation of dishonesty and dirty dealings at the highest levels from the Cold War until today. Maintaining a global perspective, this ground-breaking study details the mechanics of drug trafficking in Asia, Europe, the Middle East, and South and Central America. New chapters detail U.S. involvement in the narcotics trade in Afghanistan and Pakistan before and after the fall of the Taliban, and how U.S. drug policy in Central America and Colombia has increased the global supply of illicit drugs.
PS – as we learned through the Iran Contra revelations as detailed by Olive North, there is the CIA where lots of patriotic Americans work sincerely believing they are protecting freedom and democracy – then there is the deadly dark Deep State controlled underbelly also passed off as CIA which, since end of WW11 and the takeover of the deep cover off-budget unauthorized operations of CIA by Nazi SS Lieutenant General spy master extraordinaire Reinhard Gehlen, that well-hidden branch of CIA has now become a power beyond control of US Government – and it is without doubt the biggest threat to America and the world.
Newdill – I eagerly look forward to your usual mind-numbing but laughable rant refuting all of the above as freedom-hating filthy commie lies and conspiracy theories. Don’t let me down.
OK I know I shouldn’t ridicule anyone as intellectually challenged as Newdill – but darn it I just can’t help myself.
AM,
You’re a complete tool. The Russians were invited into Afghanistan? My God man. Is there any Russian/Chinese BS you won’t swallow? But yeah, sure, they were so welcome that the locals killed more than 15K of them and sent them running home. BTW, the US was also invited by the Afghan Northern Alliance. You are so blinded y your hatred of the US that yo appear a complete propagandized zombie to anyone outside your like-minded little circle (e.g. people here).
Nice ramblings about BS that has nothing to do with how Russia had its ass handed to them in Afghanistan.
Fact Checkersays
If Soviet Union left Afghanistan with tail between legs, then USA left it without a tail.
So you don’t even know the difference between the USSR and Russia? Russia never invaded the banana stand.
Do you get a daily rate or are you paid per post?
If only you could stop belaboring every comment thread with your usual projection.
We know, you have stated this almost every day. It is likely almost nobody here agrees with you, but that doesn’t mean you can’t attempt to make your point. It is the daily repetiton that is irksome. I find your assertions laughable, but thats just my opinion. When I attempted to post counter-points, you said “how do you know what you’re talking about” – I would ask you the same, since you provide no evidence of anything you claim.
If only you could come up with someting else to talk about.
The newdill troll trolls again with his perverse, twisted disinfo.
His mission is accomplished, as the comments flood in rebutting his ridiculous statements, he sits back in his trailer park with a smug look of satisfaction on his face.
You just don’t give up with the disinfo; “Neither side has the force to win that war decisively if NATO sends in troops and the more advanced weapons systems to assist newly trained Ukrainian troops.”
NATO does not have the troops in sufficient numbers and the newly trained Ukies are poorly trained (as attested to by recent captured POWs). You are dreaming.
And let’s put this to bed once and for all; post any info you have on NATO advanced weapon systems. Or shut up.
There is no dill like a newdill.
“If only Russia had attacked with sufficient force to achieve their objectives”
So you know nothing about combined arms modern warfare? Where did you study military strategy to be qualified to make such a statement? You clearly have zero understanding of the Russian culture or people, or how wars are actually won. If it goes hot between Russia and nato where exactly do you think nato will aquire the weapons needed to stand a chance against Russia. Even if they had the natural resources, they dont, to make such weapons where would the manufacturing take place? Do you have any idea how long it takes to bring a manufacturing plant online in the usa? Where will the skilled labor required to run this manufacturing come from? Do you even have a clue what is really going on or like most in the west do you mistakenly believe this is just a war over ukraine? It is not. ukraine is a tiny, almost insignificant part, of what is actually taking place. If you look at the big picture and whats really at play here everything they’ve done makes sense. I’m surprised they’ve moved as fast as they have considering how well their plan is working.
@Eric Newhill — Russia does not have the MIC to “…attack with sufficient force to achieve their objectives as opposed to getting bogged down…” as you mentioned.
It can “shock and awe” Ukraine command centers down and what else to the ground and yet NATO will still find a way to use any tiny patches of land remaining with any remaining conscripts to field some artillery and attack the Russian positions.
If those “command centers” can’t exist in Ukraine, then US/NATO will simply give Ukrainians orders from *elsewhere* in Europe! And if those Ukrainians think “shock and awe” from the Russians is bad, the US/NATO/Zelensky side will simply just double their “press-ganging” efforts…
I’m starting to think I smell a big rat….that being the Chinese.
The whole narrative is that the incompetence of the west is driving China and Russia together, sold as a total catastrophe …..but think for a second, the social control blueprint is coming from China, the funding of Covid and it’s use as a controlling tool, is also coming from China and the cabal….the west is gladly adapting the Chinese social model in all its aspects, gladly and completely!
So Russia is being sold the goods that China is going to have its back, and their alliance will control the new multi-polar world, at the expense of the west.
But if the great reset is a product of the power that is behind the “classical” political powers we see, get fed on daily through the media, the power that is also behind China….then maybe, just maybe, the only real rogue, the real subversive force to all their plans, is Putin and Russia…..not China.
China is being skillfully sold to the Russians as an ally to totally be trusted, an actual mole to infiltrate and destroy Russia.
But, i think China is playing both sides at the same time, making the Cabal that thinks it runs the world, the Banksters, the Illuminati, what ever you want to call them….they think and count that China is their ultimate weapon….but I think in the end, China will double cross them both….they will never again submit to the white eyed devils, nor share power in any form with them, except to attain their goal, of totally subverting them, and ruling by themselves.
I do hope the Russians and Putin don’t fall for it….because then we are all doomed, and social scores and green/vaccine passports will be tattooed on our foreheads….
Nah, the USA has always been an oligarchy. From day 1.
And whenever pro-labor sentiments appear in the population they get hammered down by the state apparatus which is nothing more than a front for transnational banking cartels.
China doesnt pretend to be what it isn’t (unlike the USA), but at the same time this isn’t your grandpappy’s state capitalism-communism. It is a real hybrid capitalism that is giving the atlanticist banking cartels who suckle off of a husked out financialized USA a real run for their money.
They are def not on the same side. Now or in terms of history. The risk of nuke war is real.
Lately PRC has been accusing the collective West–including the US in particular–of inflicting the opium wars upon China, but this was strictly a British enterprise. When it came to forcing concessions upon then-Imperial China, Britain was by far the worst offender, and USA didn’t participate in that activity. Germany and USA maintained the best relations with China, and the American people harbored quite positive attitudes toward China (until the communists took over) and disapproved of British/European treatment of China.
I agree with ZT that PRC “is giving the atlanticist banking cartels… a real run for their money”, but not in a good way. PRC has accrued a staggering debt, especially over the past 5 years.
How, exactly, are communism and capitalism compatible when communism both condemns capitalism and purports to be a remedy to capitalism?
Jim… China and the US have staggering debts, it is true. However, what is China’s debt used for compared to that of the US? One builds means for prosperity and the under builds fireworks. What the debt is used to finance is no so matter to be considered. The US military budget is over 60% of GDP. This is pathological.
Jim Ssays
k. talaat, over the past few months I’ve read many of your comments I’ve agreed with and a few I haven’t. China/PRC is one subject where I disagree with you (and others here, including our host, Mr Johnson). I suspect we will always disagree, but please don’t take my disagreement as adversarial.
US debt is mind-boggling and generally in service of ill-advised and/or corrupt ventures such as the $120+ billion sent to Ukraine. Now it seems we will have another round of bank bailouts. As a step toward controlling and eliminating this debt we must have a smaller and more restricted government. (To respond to a much earlier comment we can do this and still arrest crony capitalism. What we have now is the worst of both worlds, the Fascist alliance of authoritarian central government and powerful corporate conglomerates.)
But while US debt sickness is well known, PRC debt sickness is not. “What is China’s debt used for… ?” is a good question and I suggest looking into it. What I have found is alarming and angering for the havoc it has wreaked upon the hard-working Chinese people and upon the beautiful Chinese landscape. This debt has not been accrued for building the means of prosperity, but rather the illusion of prosperity and the maintenance of a select few in fabulous wealth–exactly the rentier class condemned by communism. Furthermore these fabulously wealthy are not entrepreneurs but the “communist” (really just authoritarian) leaders themselves, exactly as explained by Orwell and others.
Michael Droysays
No – the Illuminati or whoever you want to call them have already recognised that China is the real threat and that China is the real enemy (even if they still like to create other ones).
I have often wondered though if China money wasn’t behind a lot of the absurd anti-Russian media in US. After all the big big big winner from all that Russia hate over past 10 years has been China which overtook US economically while Washington was looking elsewhere.
Putin cannot save the West. The whole idea with multipolarity is that the rulers of every country can do whatever they want with their citizens. They may throw gays off the roof or they may force little kids to be the opposite sex. In a multipolar world Putin and Xi will guarantee your rulers that they’re not going to interfere.
The West has to save itself. The outcome in Ukraine or in Taiwan won’t change a thing.
Well, I certainly hope Russia and China will not pick up where the US leaves off with colour revolutions and regime changes. If the people in a country, say Estonia all want to gender transition and go extinct in one generation, that is not anyone else’s problem. I say go for it.
The U.N. charter does allow for intervention for true humanitarian crises and genocides under International Law. Hopefully no more bogus R2P’s under the equally bogus ‘Rules-based Order’.
The bigger question is whether the Collective West will be forced to become more lawful, or whether in their fractured half of the world they will continue as little emperors?
The mistake the West makes is thinking China is like them. History teaches us they are not. Stop projecting Western fears and desires on other cultures.
My humble advice to the Collective West, and to you as an integral part of the system (with few exceptions we all are): Look in the mirror. The problem is right in front of you.
Trump, Biden, Nuland, the Clintons – are they not in their own way the American dream realised?
Rubbish. World Bank funded the scamdemic, billions given to govts. to finance the tyranny. Dr Astrid Stuckleberger has the documents proving this.
The Wuhan lab was funded by Eco health Alliance, GIVI, US govt. and other odious sources.
The Pentagon gave $39 MILLION to Dr. Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance – the charity that funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan lab accused of being the source of the outbreak, federal data reveals
• Federal data seen by DailyMail.com reveals The Pentagon gave $39 million to EcoHealth Alliance, which funded a lab in Wuhan, China, between 2013 and 2020
• The Wuhan Institute of Virology is accused of being the source of Covid-19
• The majority of the DoD funding came from the DTRA, a military branch with a mission to ‘counter and deter weapons of mass destruction and improvised threat networks’
• Federal grant data assembled by independent researchers shows that the charity has received more than $123 million from the government in total
• Grants from the Pentagon included $6,491,025 from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) from 2017 to 2020
• EHA also received $64.7 million from the US Agency for International Development (USAID)
• It received $13 million from Health and Human Services, which includes the National Institutes of Health and Centers for Disease Control
• It is not known how much of the money actually went to the Wuhan lab
• EHA has also funded deeply controversial ‘gain of function’ experiments, where dangerous viruses are made more infectious to study their effect on human cells
Yet in spite of the voluminous tomes of evidence in public domain, still far too many people choose to believe what they want to believe, “IT WAS THE CHINESE –THEY ARE COMING FOR US ALL – WE GOTTA STOP THEM”
There’s a problem with articles not being shown in the main section. You have click on the bullet points under the moving titles/pics or just happen to see the article title when it passes by.
That is a Ground-Attack Drone. If it was carrying Rockets or Bombs, and was Flying a Course that could in Any Way be construed as heading towards Russia, under the generally-understood International Aviation Protocols, the Interception would have been conducted with the intention of (politely) Asking/ Suggesting/ Demanding that said Aircraft change course. Of Course, the Drone ‘operator’ (they are NOT pilots) wouldn’t have had Comms Capability to listen or respond on 234.0 UHF, the International “Guard” Frequency. So, Splash goes Droney…
This is a signal from Mr. Bear that all those Manned, SIGINT/ELINT Aircraft that have been Flying in that Area can be Taken Out at any Time.
Well, Vic Nulander, did announce that Crimea had RF installations that were legitimate targets for UF and that the US would help target them.
So back to the question was this am MQ9 or RQ4. Could it be an RQ4 pretending to be a Ukrainian missile heading for Crimea?
The Russians have also denied any physical contact between the aircraft and drone, which means they used EW.
That’s a bit embarrassing for “the most technically advanced nation on the planet” Larry, lol.
Thanks for your insight Larry, always welcome in a mad world.
Russian telgram says they “slipstreamed” it?
Something about flying in front fairly close, pull up and use afterburner.
That is all i can say about it really, some one posted a english post about it over at Martyanov`s site.
Not the top post but second i believe it was.
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Horacesays
Judge N.: “What is their game plan? What does Victoria Nuland … what is her goal? What is Lloyd Austin’s goal? What is Tony Blinken’s goal? If they really don’t know what they are talking about, if we can’t fight a one-front war and they are willing to pick fights which would necessitate a two-front war …”
Larry Johnson: “They want to destroy Russia. They want to break up Russia. They labor under the belief that if we can just get rid of Vladimir Putin, then that will force a breakup of the current Russian Federation and there have even been studies done proposing dividing current Russia into five different countries within its borders. Part of that is to get access to the resources. Russia is the richest nation on the face of the Earth in terms of natural resources and the West desperately wants access to them. In the past Russia was willing to trade and make deals but still staying in control. The West doesn’t want that. We want them out of the way. The other aspect is recognizing that if Russia and China get together, it’s going to put us at a decided disadvantage. Well, guess what? We are already there. So that objective has failed as far as Biden foreign policy goes.”
Subconsciously, they may have realised they’ve failed. Andrei Martyanov’s weekend video showed the cover of the latest Threat Assessment by US Intelligence.
It was a map of the world with a surprising projection, centred near Stalingrad (roughly), while pushing the USA and Canada to the periphery (top left) and Australia and New Zealand to the periphery (bottom right).
It would make a great logo for the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation, demonstrating that this is where Africa and Asia belong, which is not quite what the text inside was saying.
Nah, the USA has always been an oligarchy. From day 1.
And whenever pro-labor sentiments appear in the population they get hammered down by the state apparatus which is nothing more than a front for transnational banking cartels.
China doesnt pretend to be what it isn’t (unlike the USA), but at the same time this isn’t your grandpappy’s state capitalism-communism. It is a real hybrid capitalism that is giving the atlanticist banking cartels who suckle off of a husked out financialized USA a real run for their money.
They are def not on the same side. Now or in terms of history. The risk of nuke war is real.
So apparently the MQ-9 Reaper drone did not have its transponder activated while flying the mission…hmmmmI wonder why the USAF would want to turn that off lol…I’m sure that little fact will not be reported in the MSM.
It is unclear at the moment just where the drone came down.
However there are credible reports of serious damage being reported at Credit Swiss and other sites across Europe which may be a Mass-casualty incident (and getting worse fast).
Confirmed direct hit on Credit Swiss.
Due to the recklessness and unprofessional actions of the operator, a trail of immense damage on the ground across Europe is unfolding. The tip of a small blade seems to have fallen upon and upset the balance of a small domino.
Saudi’s say they can not help (or was that last week?), The tiny Government will try to stand tall but will be bowled over by the mass exodus. Then the Bonds will start to fall, by Friday we will se….
*Hold that, CNN, BNN, FT et al are saying all is fine, the Fed fine, we’re all good here. Everything is fine.*
Check back Thurs Zurich 09.00
Doh that was a near miss!
No need to panic it seems, in the early hours an extra 53 billion has been found under the carpet on the third floor. So take your time , form an orderly line, there is enough (Swiss Government) cash for everyone.
Doh! Doh!
That went quick.
Has anyone got an extra couple of billion?
Come on man…….. anyone?
Zimbabwe, buddy.
Like a Toblerone left on a hot radiator, this looks bad.
Damn it Jim, I’m a doctor not a Swiss Banker.
She can’t be saved (klaxons sound, lights flash).
To the lifeboats then.
Abandon ship, abandon ship!
Curt Nicholssays
No big picture from me today. The SU27 pilot that put down the Predator drone? Right now he is recovering from a epic titty club visit that he did not spend a dime at. His body is probably stickier than a Calcutta gutter. Party on Garth. Back to war tomorrow.
I think the gasoline thing may be a cover for the Russian advanced electronic counter measures capabilities.
Does anyone remember what happened to the USS Donald Cook on April 10th, 2014 when the Russians disabled the propulsion system and fried all its on board circuits, demorolizing the whole crew? The USS Donald Sitting Duck had to be towed to port, out of its illegal entry into the Black Sea.
Here is the Governing Convention of the Black Sea.
According to the The Montreux Convention, The Bosporus and Dardanelles straits are governed by international treaties such as the Montreux Convention of 1936, which established a common set of rules for the passage of warships. Only vessels from countries bordering the Black Sea are permitted to pass through the strait. Carriers are not subject to this restriction. Russia has long claimed that aircraft carriers can pass through the straits. Within Ukraine, the Truman Carrier Strike Group is in action.
“According to the The Montreux Convention, The Bosporus and Dardanelles straits are governed by international treaties such as the Montreux Convention of 1936, which established a common set of rules for the passage of warships. Only vessels from countries bordering the Black Sea are permitted to pass through the strait. Carriers are not subject to this restriction. Russia has long claimed that aircraft carriers can pass through the straits. Within Ukraine, the Truman Carrier Strike Group is in action.”
Carriers of Black Sea countries can pass, not foreign ones (unless you build one below 15,000-ton limit). In addition to that, in times of war Turkey decides what goes trough.
I do not believe for one moment that a Russian fighter stuck a part of its fuselage/flight surface into a spinning prop. That is total, complete bull shit. Now, dumping fuel…maybe so, especially if the drone were the turbine powered RQ4. A wash of fuel into the intake would make for issues with the turbine for certain and could cause turbine failure. No effect at all on control or flight surfaces for the most. My first thought is the Russians are sending a message that the U.S. needs to fly somewhere else.
Russia plays the long game, not the big arrow push game and when they get ready to move into Odessa they would rather do so with as few eyes watching as possible. I do have to wonder what Russian assets, submarine wise, they have in the black sea that can recover a sunkern drone.
Now, here is another angle. What if there were no fuel dump? What if the Russian used their superior electronic jammers and brought the RQ 4 down into the ocean. Maybe once jammed they hacked in and flew the drone to Russian territory. Were any of that the case then we can damn sure bet the U.S. will not owe up to that….maybe even make up stories about fuel dumping and prop snapping.
The drone incident has one clear message:
“Hi fatzo, we piss on u and trip u head first into whatever is below u”
We did it almost for free, compared to your pathetic $50,000 balloon hunt.
Over and out :))
Are US version of events based on facts, have they produced video, are they being honest with American people on this?
US says one thing; RF says another.
According to Russian Federation, reported by Tass, no physical contact with airborn US military weapon operating in Black Sea.
“The Russian aircraft did not use on-board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle, and returned safely to their home airfield.”
The MQ-9 drone “went into an unguided flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface.”
“On 14 March 2023 in the morning, the Russian airspace control systems have detected an American MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle flying over the Black Sea near the Crimean Peninsula in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation.”
“The drone flew with its transponders off, violating the boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation, communicated to all users of international airspace, and published in accordance with international standards.”
Agreed 100%. I am no longer buying the “Hate China” from the right anymore than the crap about Russia from the left. People from a conservative bent continuously lay into China. I ask what have they done to us?
–Infiltrate our Govt with spies and political bribes?—confirmed
–Manipulate the masses with their propaganda? Maybe but the Democrats have them beat by a long shot. In fact, I bet the Chinese are far more afraid of the Propaganda Paper Tiger screwing with their citizens. We (West) after all centers everything they do around lies and falsehoods meant to sway masses. They have no qualms about turning citizens against one another (Summer of Love).
–Are the Chinese provoking wars around the globe? Sure you can say Taiwan but its public knowledge the reunification was supposed to happened by 2049 in a peaceful fashion.
–China makes a lot of stuff for this country as we all know. The manufacturer execs and Wall Street bear that blame IMHO. We in turn export printed dollars to show our gratitude.
So please someone, tell me why again I am supposed to hate China? Can you really blame them for anything I just listed? Not, anymore than I can blame them of being fed up with the US/West.
“I’ve learned to hate the Russians, all through my whole life, if another war comes, it’s them we must fight, to hate them and fear them, to run and to hide, but accept it all bravely, with God on our side”.
Looks like Bob Dylan will need to change the lyrics to China for the coming decades.
–Are the Chinese provoking wars around the globe? Sure you can say Taiwan but its public knowledge the reunification was supposed to happened by 2049 in a peaceful fashion.
To be fairer, US has acknowledged that Taiwan is a part of China, and that they will not station troops within Taiwan. In the Shanghai Communique (First Joint Communique), point 9:
With these principles of international relations in mind the two sides stated that:
– progress toward the normalization of relations between China and the United States is in the interests of all countries
– both wish to reduce the danger of international military conflict
– neither should seek hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region and each is opposed to efforts by any other country or group of countries to establish such hegemony
– neither is prepared to negotiate on behalf of any third party or to enter into agreements or understandings with the other directed at other states.
and point 11:
The two sides reviewed the long-standing serious disputes between China and the United States. The Chinese side reaffirmed its position: the Taiwan question is the crucial question obstructing the normalization of relations between China and the United States; the Government of the People’s Republic of China is the sole legal government of China; Taiwan is a province of China which has long been returned to the motherland; the liberation of Taiwan is China’s internal affair in which no other country has the right to interfere; and all U.S. forces and military installations must be withdrawn from Taiwan. The Chinese Government firmly opposes any activities which aim at the creation of “one China, one Taiwan”, “one China, two governments”, “two Chinas”, an “independent Taiwan” or advocate that “the status of Taiwan remains to be determined”.
Yet based on the actions of the US increasing military presence towards China, as well as intentions to place troops in Taiwan itself are direct violations to the terms agreed upon. This I believe, can be considered by China as an invasion of the US should they put troops in Taiwan again without China consent
While I do not know the true competence of the intelligence agencies in US, I tend to have a feeling that their plan is not just break up Russia and China. I believe they want to expand NATO into a global security, which is led by US. This is their ultimate plan for global dominance. In order to do so, they have to scare the world about the threats of a common enemy. Thus, they spent many years creating an enemy out of Russia and China so that countries will turn towards NATO (led by US) due to insecurity. It is a great long term plan, except that the rise of China was too rapid and had disrupted their plans, forcing them to start certain moves before they are ready.
So I do not fully believe that US is incapable, but I would say that there are some miscalculations and they are trying to adjust and doesn’t not look too promising(thankfully). Due to their miscalculations and their reckless adjustment plans, the other countries start to find US being too intimidating and starts to agree on the multi-polar system, which would likely stop the plans of global domination. Not sure if this is for the benefit of humanity, but as a non-Western, I am at least glad I won’t be discriminated against.
I also read some history a few years back which detailed how America when it was the upcoming power in late 1800s and early 1900s stole copious amounts of IP and copied patented technologies from other nations that they knocked off just as so many people indignantly accuse China of doing.
I have no doubt China does engage in that activity – but so did America – as did every other emerging upcoming empire and power throughout history steal and copy the technologies of the incumbent power.
Maybe one day we will realize how stupid it was to try and protect every new technology this way so a few people can get super rich. Notwithstanding I think that the entrepreneurs and inventors deserve to be incentivized with much greater rewards for their invention and enterprise, but not to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars when large swathes of the world are having to subsist on only a dollar or two a day.
In a world now exhausting some of its most essential resources it would make much better sense to share and transfer all the best of breed technologies real fast to the whole world so we can cooperatively lift all nations up out of poverty and then multiply the power and efficiencies of our combined shared development to maximum advantage. The reduction of resource waste that could be achieved by such cooperation and not having to forever duplicate and reinvent wheels would be game-changing.
Like what is to hate about the idea of a world where every nation and person is able to enjoy the best of everything at much lower costs without the rent-seeking extraction of massive wealth through IP patent protection and with much more efficient allocation of resources that are getting ever scarcer and more costly to extract.
The mind boggles at what the world might have been like long ago had nations and people set about sharing and helping each other develop rather than the stronger nations and empires always trying to stomp the weaker nations and people down and keep them out of the game.
By the way if China had not fast-tracked its development this way then it would have remained forever under the heel of the rentier pirates who would prefer to have slave labour workshops all over China in perpetuity, like we have seen in the last few decades with the big American and other European corporations operating massive slave labour industries just a notch above internment camps for the poor souls who have to work in them for a pittance. Now China is rising and lifting wages for Chinese workers as they quickly orient to developing bigger more sustainable internal markets so they are less dependent on exports – and America and its rich allies in the wider empire do not like what is happening and are pulling out all stops to smash China back down. But their plans are not going to work out because China has become too strong now.
The beginning of the Industrial Revolution in the US can be traced to Samuel Slater, founder of the Slater Mill in Pawtucket, RI in 1790. Slater had been apprentice in a mill in England using the developments of Arkwright in water powered spinning and weaving machinery, and so it was illegal for him to leave England with that knowledge. He left anyways with all that Intellectual Property, and went into partnership with the Brown family to develop his own mill.
Toxic drywall.
Toxic paint.
Toxic infant formula.
Toxic toddler toys.
Toxic dog treats and food.
Toxic cat food.
Toxic vitamins.
These all pale in comparison to the fentanyl problem. They
started making it as two separate components and then ship them separately to skirt the drug laws. I think most people would agree that shows malicious intent. They’ve done plenty to intentionally harm us but I don’t think you should hate them.
The Russians mention sharp maneuvers.
Is it possible to get these drones to get confused by their own automatic collision avoidance protocols by “buzzing” them? That is, the drones down themselves because their flight routines stall it or send it to the deck?
And if so, could this tactic tested by these Russian Pilots, be then be rolled out to “interceptor drones” that buzz other drones instead of more kinetic options?
We’ve been doing these little “slaps on the face” to the Russians for a while now, when they don’t respond physically we assume it’s because they are weak. Now, the shoe is on the other foot.
I would not be surprised if it was indeed a Global Hawk, but the US leaders are trying to downplay the incident as not to bring too much embarrassment upon themselves.
First, because the price gap between a rickety Reaper compared to the gigantic, ultra high tech GH is astronomical, second, the fuel dump would be a tactic more in line with trying to cause a catastrophic jet engine failure, which the GH possesses.
Global Hawks have been the standard drone operating over the Black Sea for years. But, since no one in the civilian world will ever see the wreckage,… it was a reaper, period!
Just to add about the comments regarding the dumping of fuel in front of the drone. As an ex aircraft maintainer if the fuel story has any truth , you could starve the engine of air thus creating a compressor stall , but at 52k feet altitude there would be ample time for the operator to pitch nose down and attempt a relight which is standard op procedure. I don’t in my view see this as a credible way of downing an aircraft. Again speculation but just my 2 cents worth.
Seems to me “accidently” hitting the drones prop gives plausible deniability saying the drone was not actually shot down. So not an act of war. First thing that entered my head was the missile “accidently” launched at the AWACS a while ago. After which we haven’t seen manned aircraft spying over the Black sea.
If it was EW as suggested this is still a good cover story for it that both sides are likely to embrace.
Larry, when you discuss intelligence community you never discuss the privatization of intelligence. What do you think the intelligence for profit does to further the safety of the USA?
The two of you touched on the Washington Post article. Between that, and the recent revelations in the NYT & Bild about the Ukrainian role in the attack on the Nord Stream, I can hear the rumble of the bus warming up in the distance…. Zelensky had one Diem moment in front of Congress, might the second one be coming soon?
The more I think about this drone incident, the more questions I have than answers. So, WHY did this happen, and as Larry says, why NOW? Seems the US would have had to be willing to risk a $32 million dollar asset to pull this stunt – it could be destroyed or captured. So, why do it? (a) test run for a future attack on Crimea (b) gathering intel (c) hoping to test/gather intel on air defenses the Russians have on Crimea (d) escalation to push for F-16s (see below….) (e) all of the above?
I saw folks asking on the interwebs last night, why not shoot it down? Since stuff you shoot down in the sky goes BOOM, neither side would have plausible deniability/narrative control of the incident. Maybe the US/NATO got some intel, but personally I think this just created on opportunity for the Russians: (a) a chance to capture a US asset (b) an opportunity to test its capabilities against a manned warplane – can they destabilize the drone? I’ve read they are both remotely manned AND can be pre-programmed for flights, with “back up” programming if things go wonky. Does anyone here know which is correct, or is it BOTH? If its both, the Russians may have found out which method was being used, lol. I did read last night that it may be possible to destabilize the drone by “rolling over” it in a fighter jet and/or giving it an afterburner blast with the same effect (that would be some cool film to see!). Then you pee jet fuel on it just for fun lol.
So, today of course 8 of our congressional mid-wits wrote a letter to Sec Def Austin to ask what it would take to get the Ukies F-16s and of course Lindsay Graham is screeching at the top of his lungs.
Why did this happen NOW? Anybody remember how hard the Russians have been hitting Ochakov the last couple of weeks? Apparently, in 2017 the Sea Bees built a naval operating center for the “Ukrainian” Navy (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) in Ochakov. You sure have a nice view of Crimea from there. I’ve always thought re-taking Crimea was a goal for the US/UK/NATO/Ukies for various reasons. Then again maybe I just had too much coffee today. What do you folks think?
On the podcast mandela was mentioned. I will respectfully disagree with Mr. Johnson that mandela was not a communist. I believe that he definitely was and since him and his party took over; south africa has been turned into a shithole. Under biden we are know following the same path.
it was not a MQ 9 Reaper it was RQ4 Global Hawk that goes by the CODENAME FORTE10
Source please. MQ 9 is what I’ve seen. If it is a RQ4 Global Hawk that is a really big deal.
MonkeyWerks.com often shows Forte10 US drone over the Black SEA in his Situation Reports using SKYGLASS and other airline tracking software.
His recent comment was wondering why the drone had not already been shot down!
Hi Larry, as a casual plane geek I’ve been watching the aviation activity on FlightRadar24 & Skyglass since last March. Normally, there is a RQ-4B Global Hawk flying regularly over the Black Sea. There have been 2 I’ve seen: Forte 10 and Forte 12. For a while they were accompanied by 2 NATO AWACS (Boeing EA-3 Sentry): NATO 11 (Turkey) or NATO 01 (Germany) which circle over Constanta, Romania. Sometimes you see a USAF or RAF RC-135 Rivet Joint instead. There is a definitive area over the Black Sea where no air traffic operates since the beginning of the conflict – that’s where the drone flies.
In late January, I was watching the RQ-4B and it veered off its usual course – a figure 8 pattern – and went right over Sevastapol. I also noticed a new plane over Romania – a Navy P-8A Poseidon which is supposed to be updated to be a flying command center to coordinate all land/air/sea operations. This is about the time I started hearing a lot of talk from the West and Ukraine about Crimea. If this was a MQ-9 the Russians brought down, the difference is that it can be armed. Its a “hunter-killer” and it can carry Hellfires, Sidewinders & JDAM and probably some other goodies.
Gotta love the Russian take-down method. Obviously the Russians wanted to try and bring it down and recover it (supposedly they did recover it or are actively doing so now), especially if it was armed. It also kind of says “we can bring down your fancy toys without firing a shot” LOL. I did see the activity on FlightRadar24 yesterday, but I didn’t screenshot it as I sometimes do. There was a drone – I don’t remember if it was the RQ-4B or MQ-9 and a couple of its pals flying over Romania – an older Navy prop plane and an Italian Dassault Falcon or something similar (those are common in the area, too. I’m sure the Russians know its not a civilian plane lol).
Very smart comment.
Second that.
I second that motion.
Yes excellent comment TedTheKitty
I note you comment as follows: It also kind of says “we can bring down your fancy toys without firing a shot” LOL
That was my first thought when hearing how the Russian pilot(s) downed the drone – extremely capable flyers having a show-off fun time.
In the event that there ever does occur direct air conflict between Russia and America-NATO then I’ll bet that it will be repeat of the surprise shock appearance of the MIGs in the Korean War that ‘pissed all over’ the America jets at that time.
Sukhois have been designed to be responsive to superbly trained and competent pilots as opposed to US fighters with over-engineered tech complexity designed according to the conceit that super-advanced tech gadgetry, designed by propellor-head boffins trying to impress, can lift performance into a new paradigm of man-machine singularity. F35s will never be capable of competing with the Sukhois. Of course we all hope that it will never have to be proven but all indicators are that the Nazi war criminals operating out of Washington-NATO and their Ukraine lapdogs are going to push it to that unthinkable outcome.
A new expression has entered the english language. “Flying Spit”.
You can’t duck it either. It is the kind of spit that blinds you on the spot and you come tumbling down. Reminds me of the spitting cobra mambas spit.
The coat of il is not environment friendly the yankees say. Stupendous coming from the very same terrorists that blew up the Nord Stream, the greatest environmental catastrophe this side of the century.
good comment. i am wondering why these dronesc would not have a self destruct device in it to prevent it from falling into enemy hands.
From Donbass Devushka today
It appears that a US surveillance RQ4 Global Hawk drone, callsign “FORTE10” went missing at 8:40:58 CET (Central European Time). The drone flew within 18 nautical miles of the Russian coastline. It was cruising at an altitude of 52k feet.
Let me add that myself and another aviation enthusiast had suspicions that this was not a reaper as we haven’t seen many in that AOR. But we have seen PLENTY of Hawks.
FORTE10’s flight data from yesterday and today has been scrubbed from tracking sites. Looks like we have a winner….. maybe
They deleted the page/data and now it says NO FLIGHTS IN THE PAST 14 DAYS.
From Monkey Werx
Around 7:25 discussion of British P8 and FORTE10 in the air. Proof that the flights occurred and have now been scrubbed.
https://youtu.be/hDW65XvwfXA
Now let’s think…. reapers are armed probably 8-9/10 times. Why would you risk flying a jet that close to an armed drone and dump fuel on it? Why not just shoot it down?
No, it was a Reaper.
So many articles called it a Reaper which carries missiles. But still packed with sensors. A Hawk is a super-sensor. If Russia discovered a Hellfire-equipped Reaper, it has to go bye bye. For once, the US is sitting on their usually chatty stance.
Good stuff with the Judge, Larry. I see the views piling up on all of the media you gents are generating. People that matter have GOT to be taking it all in. Well, I pray they are.
Isn’t the dumping of fuel on the drone kind of like “I’m pissing on you!” ?
I’m no expert but could it have been an attempt to get the engine to die. If most of the air it ingests was replaced by a cloud of kerosene, the engine may just shut down.
Why do I thing of ‘Top Gun’ and how Maveric downed an airplane by the jet blast of his plane? And is that realistic?
Цианоакрилаты
Cyanoacrylates. What? Did they spray it with some kind of solvent?
Indeed! Great comment. Not to mention it being and extremely creative method of downing the drone, to be done by those “stupid, incompetent, ill-trained Russians.”
Great interview. I really enjoy the sessions with the Judge.
We finally agree on something 100% – this is – and always been – heading toward intercontinental missile exchanges, though it won’t be one-sided. Cities will be burning in countries from Russia to the EU to the US and maybe in China to (Though I kind of think the Chinese want to sit it out if they can and emerge the global sole surviving power with the whole world for the taking). Russia won’t back down in Ukraine and neither will the US/NATO. Neither side has the force to win that war decisively if NATO sends in troops and the more advanced weapons systems to assist newly trained Ukrainian troops. When the blood bath becomes too much to sustain for one or both sides, they’ll reach for “the button”.
If only Russia had attacked with sufficient force to achieve their objectives as opposed to getting bogged down and giving NATO time to adapt and act. If only Russia had actually enforced their “red lines” when they were crossed. Now Russia is going to get what they wanted to avoid and so are we all. The only way to stop this now is a new government in Washington, which I don’t happening. Otherwise, if you think you can survive the missiles, you might want to develop a taste for fried bat and learn how to eat it with chop sticks.
I invite you to Volgograd. Come and I teach you cooking then you don’t have to embarrass yourself with your military and geopolitical analysis, clearly no professional experience in either. By the way we don’t use pronouns here also
Very good reply, I hope that someday some in the US will learn that they are not the center of the universe. Sadly most people here in the US live in a vacuum and have never been outside their own cities. I would be happy to share some fried bat with you and would be honored to eat it with chopsticks. Viva Russia and China! God willing I will get out of this godforsaken country before I am forced to bow before BLM or LGB&T! Sadly the time is at hand, I trust the Lord to deliver those as He did Lot and his family out of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Well put Наталья Волкова
I would love to visit Russia to pay my respects and visit all the sites of the great battles of the Great Patriotic War about which we in the West are still too stupid and arrogant to acknowledge the truth that it was the incredible sacrifice, courage and death of tens of millions of Russian people and other people in the wider USSR who were the decisive winning factor in the destruction of the Nazi war machine in WW11.
We still have to suffer Americans and others in the Anglo-American nations claiming it was us who won that war. It is sickening in the extreme.
I wish you and your people all the very best and I pray for a swift conclusive victory over the Ukraine Nazi regime and especially eventually over the Nazis in Washington, London and Brussels; hopefully with the help of some good souls within our own nations rising up and executing proper justice to the low-life who have taken control of our governments and militaries.
By the way I have only once eaten real Russian food in Russian restaurant and it was spectacularly good cuisine – much better than the junk garbage that is increasingly replacing the good food we once had in abundance but which is now disappearing from our shelves.
I understand that the Russians have banned GMO food and crops and have banned all the big GMO corporations from Russia which is another reason why the Nazis corporations are pushing the governments they have infiltrated and control to destroy Russia – they want to turn Russia into a GMO wasteland.
Follow the money – the heirs of the Reich are slowly but surely consolidating ever more centralized corporate power over the Anglo-American nations e.g. Bayer having recently taken over Monsanto.
This from the New York Time 02 May 1999 – truly mind-blowing
THE BUSINESS WORLD; I.G. Farben: A Lingering Relic of the Nazi Years
Refer: https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/02/business/the-business-world-ig-farben-a-lingering-relic-of-the-nazi-years.html
and this
Nazi Chemical Giant Declares Bankruptcy 11 November 2003
Refer: https://www.dw.com/en/nazi-chemical-giant-declares-bankruptcy/a-1026396
The following sentence from the article above as follows:
After World War II, the Allies stripped the firm of most of its assets, which were transferred to the three chemical firms Bayer, Hoechst (now Aventis) and BASF
my further comment to that:
I G Farben carried on business after WW11 after a huge PR theatrical production in which the western media claimed it had been broken up and its assets transferred to other corporations.
I wonder who was behind all those 30 or more biolabs in Ukraine that Victoria Nuland admitted were set up by American interests?
Victoria Nuland admits to Bio Labs in Ukraine
I min YouTube video 13 March 2022
refer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRxi4QLQITY&ab_channel=EduardoCorrochio
and this
Ukrainian Biolab Funding Patrick Lawrence RT documentary 12 Nov 2022
26min RT documentary from ‘The Whistleblowers’
refer: https://www.rt.com/shows/whistleblowers/566167-ukraine-biolabs-aid-package/
From the RT website as follows:
The Biden administration has passed a $40 billion aid package for Ukraine. Buried within the bill is an additional $50 million appropriated for the Department of Defense for “Research, Development, Test and Evaluation.” Why is the Department of Defense spending $50 million on research in an active war zone? On this episode of the Whistleblowers, we take a look at what we know about the existence of biolabs in Ukraine with journalist & author Patrick Lawrence.
And this article by Glenn Greenwald 10 March 2022
Victoria Nuland: Ukraine Has “Biological Research Facilities,” Worried Russia May Seize Them
refer: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological?s=r
So who is the enemy?
God bless Russia and thank you far all that the Russian people are doing once again to rid the world of this Nazi trash
When push comes to shove the US will flee Ukraine with its tail between its legs. Just like in Afghanistan, just like everywhere, anytime. No one thinks of Americans as brave (apart from themselves of course). They’re so far from Russians you can come. Fighting through proxies, paying them billions and bragging after liquidating thousands of civilians is all Amercans can do. So when the Ukrainians are dead and gone, as well as the Polish, Georgian, Baltic mercenaries, it’s all over. Americans are nothing but a bunch of loudmouthed cowards, just like their quiet little West-European vassals.
So relax, there won’t be any official NATO troops in Ukraine.
Tail between legs just like the Russians left Afghanistan? And Kherson? And….
There are opinions and there are facts.
Perhaps you should educate yourself about the Soviet (not Russian!) retreat. The Afghanistan gov’t lasted for years afterwards with Soviet aid. It was the cut off of Soviet aid that led to its demise.
You can even read about it on the pro-US intel website, wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_withdrawal_from_Afghanistan
Larry: Great interview with the judge, who I appreciate more and more.
Shining the light for those who will not see, but I wonder if you’re wasting power…
Oh come on. The Russians lost something like 15K to 20K killed in Afghanistan in ten years and they left a flimsy government in place that lasted about as long as the South Vietnamese govt did after the US left VN.
The US lost an order of magnitude less than the Russian number in Afghanistan in double the number of years in country.
As far as making the excuse that Soviets were somehow not Russians, well that’s a double edge sword. If you want to go that route, then you can’t legitimately make statements about Russian bad-assery based on whatever they did in WW2.
What is this neurotic drive that people here have to dig as deep as possible to find and magnify every possible fault with America and, simultaneously, excuse glaring faults with Russia and China? Yes, I know that some here are paid agents of Russia and China, and some are citizens of those countries, but what drives the rest escapes me entirely – like that miserable gas bag Martyanov who has nothing good to say about the US, yet enjoys the benefits of living here.
Here’s some news for you – if the politicians didn’t order a somewhat FUBAR withdrawal from Afghanistan, then the US troops would still be there holding down the fort and not being run off, like the Russians were. Similarly, the US would still be in Vietnam and Iraq. In none of these fights did the US military get its ass kicked all the home like the Russians did. Not that I think US troops should be in those places doing those things; just saying that they could be because none of those enemies could militarily defeat the US.
Put
The
Crack
Pipe
Down.
The US spent 19.5 years and a few trillion dollars fighting goat and sheep herders using AK47s and RPGs all for what? Then left Saigon style.
Just say NO to drugs, clown.
It would be interesting for someone with more military knowledge than myself to compare side by side in a table the Russian experience vs the American one in Afghanistan. The two would look very different, I wager.
Iraq? Vietnam?
I don’t remember USSR leaving Afghanistan the way USA did. Pathetic. People falling from the sky, droning children. Well done America.
You gotta love the way Newdill just keeps showing how stupid and ignorant he is.
And to his credit he does provide us all with great laughs because he epitomizes the classic Hollywood caricature of the fervent red neck flag-waving patriot.
Some real comparative facts for you Newdill – which you are bound to discount as conspiracy theory.
Unlike American invasion of Afghanistan the Soviets were invited into Afghanistan by then newly elected communist government after the towel-head fundamentalist goons launched jihad against that duly elected government.
The Soviet troops in Afghanistan were mostly from the Caucasus regions – with few Russians.
Soviets withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989 was incredibly well planned and executed over an extended period of time – it was nothing like the clown show American ‘tail between the legs’ frantic rout that was conducted in panic on the spur of the moment.
This from The Diplomat website:
30-Year Anniversary of Soviet Withdrawal From Afghanistan: A Successful Disengagement Operation?
The withdrawal of the Soviet 40th Army from Afghanistan from 1988 to 1989 was a militarily successful operation save one mistake.
refer: https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/30-year-anniversary-of-soviet-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-a-successful-disengagement-operation/
Relations now between Afghanistan and Russia have never been better unlike relations between Afghanistan and America which are in the toilet, as are America’s relations with most every other country outside of the enslaved subject clown nations in the Anglo-American-EU train wreck.
The Taliban had dramatically reduced heroin production in early 2000 – but that all changed when America invaded Afghanistan. When America moved into Afghanistan, guns and rockets blazing, with the biggest narcotic dealing gang in the planet a.k.a. CIA that Afghani heroin production went ballistic as did the carnage it unleashed when the pure Afghani heroin hit the streets in the dirt poor broken towns and suburbs of America after they had offshored most industry to China and thrown millions of American workers under the bus.
The following article from Global Research authored by Professor Michel Chossudovsky reveals the facts
The Spoils of War: Afghanistan’s Multibillion Dollar Heroin Trade
Joe Biden’s Hidden Agenda in Afghanistan: Sustain the Drug Trade
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spoils-of-war-Afghanistan-s-multibillion-dollar-heroin-trade/91
Extract from the article above as follows:
What is important to understand is that one of the key strategic objectives of the 2001 war on Afghanistan was to restore the opium trade following the Taliban government’s successful 2000-2001 drug eradication program which led to a 94% collapse in opium production. This program was supported by the United Nations. (For details, see below)
In the course of the last 19 years following the US-NATO October 2001 invasion, there has been a surge in Afghan opium production. In turn the number of heroin addicts in the US has increased dramatically. Is there a relationship?
There were 189,000 heroin users in the US in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion of Afghanistan.
By 2016 that number went up to 4,500,000 (2.5 million heroin addicts and 2 million casual users).
In 2020, at the hight of the covid crisis, deaths from opioids and drug addiction increased threefold.
It’s Big Money for Big Pharma.
The book by American Professor Alfred W McCoy is also highly revealing
The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/152038.The_Politics_of_Heroin
Book summary from the Goodreads website as follows:
The first book to prove CIA and U.S. government complicity in global drug trafficking, The Politics of Heroin includes meticulous documentation of dishonesty and dirty dealings at the highest levels from the Cold War until today. Maintaining a global perspective, this ground-breaking study details the mechanics of drug trafficking in Asia, Europe, the Middle East, and South and Central America. New chapters detail U.S. involvement in the narcotics trade in Afghanistan and Pakistan before and after the fall of the Taliban, and how U.S. drug policy in Central America and Colombia has increased the global supply of illicit drugs.
PS – as we learned through the Iran Contra revelations as detailed by Olive North, there is the CIA where lots of patriotic Americans work sincerely believing they are protecting freedom and democracy – then there is the deadly dark Deep State controlled underbelly also passed off as CIA which, since end of WW11 and the takeover of the deep cover off-budget unauthorized operations of CIA by Nazi SS Lieutenant General spy master extraordinaire Reinhard Gehlen, that well-hidden branch of CIA has now become a power beyond control of US Government – and it is without doubt the biggest threat to America and the world.
Newdill – I eagerly look forward to your usual mind-numbing but laughable rant refuting all of the above as freedom-hating filthy commie lies and conspiracy theories. Don’t let me down.
OK I know I shouldn’t ridicule anyone as intellectually challenged as Newdill – but darn it I just can’t help myself.
AM,
You’re a complete tool. The Russians were invited into Afghanistan? My God man. Is there any Russian/Chinese BS you won’t swallow? But yeah, sure, they were so welcome that the locals killed more than 15K of them and sent them running home. BTW, the US was also invited by the Afghan Northern Alliance. You are so blinded y your hatred of the US that yo appear a complete propagandized zombie to anyone outside your like-minded little circle (e.g. people here).
Nice ramblings about BS that has nothing to do with how Russia had its ass handed to them in Afghanistan.
If Soviet Union left Afghanistan with tail between legs, then USA left it without a tail.
So you don’t even know the difference between the USSR and Russia? Russia never invaded the banana stand.
Do you get a daily rate or are you paid per post?
If only you could stop belaboring every comment thread with your usual projection.
We know, you have stated this almost every day. It is likely almost nobody here agrees with you, but that doesn’t mean you can’t attempt to make your point. It is the daily repetiton that is irksome. I find your assertions laughable, but thats just my opinion. When I attempted to post counter-points, you said “how do you know what you’re talking about” – I would ask you the same, since you provide no evidence of anything you claim.
If only you could come up with someting else to talk about.
The newdill troll trolls again with his perverse, twisted disinfo.
His mission is accomplished, as the comments flood in rebutting his ridiculous statements, he sits back in his trailer park with a smug look of satisfaction on his face.
And then he hits the meth pipe one more time.
You just don’t give up with the disinfo; “Neither side has the force to win that war decisively if NATO sends in troops and the more advanced weapons systems to assist newly trained Ukrainian troops.”
NATO does not have the troops in sufficient numbers and the newly trained Ukies are poorly trained (as attested to by recent captured POWs). You are dreaming.
And let’s put this to bed once and for all; post any info you have on NATO advanced weapon systems. Or shut up.
There is no dill like a newdill.
new dill = novy ukrop 🙂
You forgot to mention that you are not the one that’s crazy. Everyone else is.
“If only Russia had attacked with sufficient force to achieve their objectives”
So you know nothing about combined arms modern warfare? Where did you study military strategy to be qualified to make such a statement? You clearly have zero understanding of the Russian culture or people, or how wars are actually won. If it goes hot between Russia and nato where exactly do you think nato will aquire the weapons needed to stand a chance against Russia. Even if they had the natural resources, they dont, to make such weapons where would the manufacturing take place? Do you have any idea how long it takes to bring a manufacturing plant online in the usa? Where will the skilled labor required to run this manufacturing come from? Do you even have a clue what is really going on or like most in the west do you mistakenly believe this is just a war over ukraine? It is not. ukraine is a tiny, almost insignificant part, of what is actually taking place. If you look at the big picture and whats really at play here everything they’ve done makes sense. I’m surprised they’ve moved as fast as they have considering how well their plan is working.
@Eric Newhill — Russia does not have the MIC to “…attack with sufficient force to achieve their objectives as opposed to getting bogged down…” as you mentioned.
It can “shock and awe” Ukraine command centers down and what else to the ground and yet NATO will still find a way to use any tiny patches of land remaining with any remaining conscripts to field some artillery and attack the Russian positions.
If those “command centers” can’t exist in Ukraine, then US/NATO will simply give Ukrainians orders from *elsewhere* in Europe! And if those Ukrainians think “shock and awe” from the Russians is bad, the US/NATO/Zelensky side will simply just double their “press-ganging” efforts…
I’m starting to think I smell a big rat….that being the Chinese.
The whole narrative is that the incompetence of the west is driving China and Russia together, sold as a total catastrophe …..but think for a second, the social control blueprint is coming from China, the funding of Covid and it’s use as a controlling tool, is also coming from China and the cabal….the west is gladly adapting the Chinese social model in all its aspects, gladly and completely!
So Russia is being sold the goods that China is going to have its back, and their alliance will control the new multi-polar world, at the expense of the west.
But if the great reset is a product of the power that is behind the “classical” political powers we see, get fed on daily through the media, the power that is also behind China….then maybe, just maybe, the only real rogue, the real subversive force to all their plans, is Putin and Russia…..not China.
China is being skillfully sold to the Russians as an ally to totally be trusted, an actual mole to infiltrate and destroy Russia.
But, i think China is playing both sides at the same time, making the Cabal that thinks it runs the world, the Banksters, the Illuminati, what ever you want to call them….they think and count that China is their ultimate weapon….but I think in the end, China will double cross them both….they will never again submit to the white eyed devils, nor share power in any form with them, except to attain their goal, of totally subverting them, and ruling by themselves.
I do hope the Russians and Putin don’t fall for it….because then we are all doomed, and social scores and green/vaccine passports will be tattooed on our foreheads….
Nah, the USA has always been an oligarchy. From day 1.
And whenever pro-labor sentiments appear in the population they get hammered down by the state apparatus which is nothing more than a front for transnational banking cartels.
China doesnt pretend to be what it isn’t (unlike the USA), but at the same time this isn’t your grandpappy’s state capitalism-communism. It is a real hybrid capitalism that is giving the atlanticist banking cartels who suckle off of a husked out financialized USA a real run for their money.
They are def not on the same side. Now or in terms of history. The risk of nuke war is real.
Well said, the Chinese suffered at the hands of the West from opium wars to collapse of their currency.
Lately PRC has been accusing the collective West–including the US in particular–of inflicting the opium wars upon China, but this was strictly a British enterprise. When it came to forcing concessions upon then-Imperial China, Britain was by far the worst offender, and USA didn’t participate in that activity. Germany and USA maintained the best relations with China, and the American people harbored quite positive attitudes toward China (until the communists took over) and disapproved of British/European treatment of China.
I agree with ZT that PRC “is giving the atlanticist banking cartels… a real run for their money”, but not in a good way. PRC has accrued a staggering debt, especially over the past 5 years.
How, exactly, are communism and capitalism compatible when communism both condemns capitalism and purports to be a remedy to capitalism?
Jim… China and the US have staggering debts, it is true. However, what is China’s debt used for compared to that of the US? One builds means for prosperity and the under builds fireworks. What the debt is used to finance is no so matter to be considered. The US military budget is over 60% of GDP. This is pathological.
k. talaat, over the past few months I’ve read many of your comments I’ve agreed with and a few I haven’t. China/PRC is one subject where I disagree with you (and others here, including our host, Mr Johnson). I suspect we will always disagree, but please don’t take my disagreement as adversarial.
US debt is mind-boggling and generally in service of ill-advised and/or corrupt ventures such as the $120+ billion sent to Ukraine. Now it seems we will have another round of bank bailouts. As a step toward controlling and eliminating this debt we must have a smaller and more restricted government. (To respond to a much earlier comment we can do this and still arrest crony capitalism. What we have now is the worst of both worlds, the Fascist alliance of authoritarian central government and powerful corporate conglomerates.)
But while US debt sickness is well known, PRC debt sickness is not. “What is China’s debt used for… ?” is a good question and I suggest looking into it. What I have found is alarming and angering for the havoc it has wreaked upon the hard-working Chinese people and upon the beautiful Chinese landscape. This debt has not been accrued for building the means of prosperity, but rather the illusion of prosperity and the maintenance of a select few in fabulous wealth–exactly the rentier class condemned by communism. Furthermore these fabulously wealthy are not entrepreneurs but the “communist” (really just authoritarian) leaders themselves, exactly as explained by Orwell and others.
No – the Illuminati or whoever you want to call them have already recognised that China is the real threat and that China is the real enemy (even if they still like to create other ones).
I have often wondered though if China money wasn’t behind a lot of the absurd anti-Russian media in US. After all the big big big winner from all that Russia hate over past 10 years has been China which overtook US economically while Washington was looking elsewhere.
Putin cannot save the West. The whole idea with multipolarity is that the rulers of every country can do whatever they want with their citizens. They may throw gays off the roof or they may force little kids to be the opposite sex. In a multipolar world Putin and Xi will guarantee your rulers that they’re not going to interfere.
The West has to save itself. The outcome in Ukraine or in Taiwan won’t change a thing.
Well, I certainly hope Russia and China will not pick up where the US leaves off with colour revolutions and regime changes. If the people in a country, say Estonia all want to gender transition and go extinct in one generation, that is not anyone else’s problem. I say go for it.
The U.N. charter does allow for intervention for true humanitarian crises and genocides under International Law. Hopefully no more bogus R2P’s under the equally bogus ‘Rules-based Order’.
The bigger question is whether the Collective West will be forced to become more lawful, or whether in their fractured half of the world they will continue as little emperors?
The mistake the West makes is thinking China is like them. History teaches us they are not. Stop projecting Western fears and desires on other cultures.
My humble advice to the Collective West, and to you as an integral part of the system (with few exceptions we all are): Look in the mirror. The problem is right in front of you.
Trump, Biden, Nuland, the Clintons – are they not in their own way the American dream realised?
The solution is to wake up.
“…the funding of Covid (by China)…”
Rubbish. World Bank funded the scamdemic, billions given to govts. to finance the tyranny. Dr Astrid Stuckleberger has the documents proving this.
The Wuhan lab was funded by Eco health Alliance, GIVI, US govt. and other odious sources.
You are spot on grr
The following article authored by Josh Boswell and Martin Gould was published by UK Daily Mail on 05 June 2021
refer: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9652287/The-Pentagon-funneled-39million-charity-funded-Wuhan-lab.html
The Pentagon gave $39 MILLION to Dr. Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance – the charity that funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan lab accused of being the source of the outbreak, federal data reveals
• Federal data seen by DailyMail.com reveals The Pentagon gave $39 million to EcoHealth Alliance, which funded a lab in Wuhan, China, between 2013 and 2020
• The Wuhan Institute of Virology is accused of being the source of Covid-19
• The majority of the DoD funding came from the DTRA, a military branch with a mission to ‘counter and deter weapons of mass destruction and improvised threat networks’
• Federal grant data assembled by independent researchers shows that the charity has received more than $123 million from the government in total
• Grants from the Pentagon included $6,491,025 from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) from 2017 to 2020
• EHA also received $64.7 million from the US Agency for International Development (USAID)
• It received $13 million from Health and Human Services, which includes the National Institutes of Health and Centers for Disease Control
• It is not known how much of the money actually went to the Wuhan lab
• EHA has also funded deeply controversial ‘gain of function’ experiments, where dangerous viruses are made more infectious to study their effect on human cells
Yet in spite of the voluminous tomes of evidence in public domain, still far too many people choose to believe what they want to believe, “IT WAS THE CHINESE –THEY ARE COMING FOR US ALL – WE GOTTA STOP THEM”
The pleasant name”Gain of Function”has always been suspect for me.As if viruses are not dangerous enough without the “Gain”.
Where can we access the article that Larry wrote, that the Judge refers to at the end of this video??
It was posted here last night.
There’s a problem with articles not being shown in the main section. You have click on the bullet points under the moving titles/pics or just happen to see the article title when it passes by.
That is a Ground-Attack Drone. If it was carrying Rockets or Bombs, and was Flying a Course that could in Any Way be construed as heading towards Russia, under the generally-understood International Aviation Protocols, the Interception would have been conducted with the intention of (politely) Asking/ Suggesting/ Demanding that said Aircraft change course. Of Course, the Drone ‘operator’ (they are NOT pilots) wouldn’t have had Comms Capability to listen or respond on 234.0 UHF, the International “Guard” Frequency. So, Splash goes Droney…
This is a signal from Mr. Bear that all those Manned, SIGINT/ELINT Aircraft that have been Flying in that Area can be Taken Out at any Time.
Well, Vic Nulander, did announce that Crimea had RF installations that were legitimate targets for UF and that the US would help target them.
So back to the question was this am MQ9 or RQ4. Could it be an RQ4 pretending to be a Ukrainian missile heading for Crimea?
I will write more later tonight. Currently in a meeting/seminar. There is emerging evidence that it was an RQ4.
The Russians have also denied any physical contact between the aircraft and drone, which means they used EW.
That’s a bit embarrassing for “the most technically advanced nation on the planet” Larry, lol.
Thanks for your insight Larry, always welcome in a mad world.
Russian telgram says they “slipstreamed” it?
Something about flying in front fairly close, pull up and use afterburner.
That is all i can say about it really, some one posted a english post about it over at Martyanov`s site.
Not the top post but second i believe it was.
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Judge N.: “What is their game plan? What does Victoria Nuland … what is her goal? What is Lloyd Austin’s goal? What is Tony Blinken’s goal? If they really don’t know what they are talking about, if we can’t fight a one-front war and they are willing to pick fights which would necessitate a two-front war …”
Larry Johnson: “They want to destroy Russia. They want to break up Russia. They labor under the belief that if we can just get rid of Vladimir Putin, then that will force a breakup of the current Russian Federation and there have even been studies done proposing dividing current Russia into five different countries within its borders. Part of that is to get access to the resources. Russia is the richest nation on the face of the Earth in terms of natural resources and the West desperately wants access to them. In the past Russia was willing to trade and make deals but still staying in control. The West doesn’t want that. We want them out of the way. The other aspect is recognizing that if Russia and China get together, it’s going to put us at a decided disadvantage. Well, guess what? We are already there. So that objective has failed as far as Biden foreign policy goes.”
Subconsciously, they may have realised they’ve failed. Andrei Martyanov’s weekend video showed the cover of the latest Threat Assessment by US Intelligence.
It was a map of the world with a surprising projection, centred near Stalingrad (roughly), while pushing the USA and Canada to the periphery (top left) and Australia and New Zealand to the periphery (bottom right).
It would make a great logo for the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation, demonstrating that this is where Africa and Asia belong, which is not quite what the text inside was saying.
Nah, the USA has always been an oligarchy. From day 1.
And whenever pro-labor sentiments appear in the population they get hammered down by the state apparatus which is nothing more than a front for transnational banking cartels.
China doesnt pretend to be what it isn’t (unlike the USA), but at the same time this isn’t your grandpappy’s state capitalism-communism. It is a real hybrid capitalism that is giving the atlanticist banking cartels who suckle off of a husked out financialized USA a real run for their money.
They are def not on the same side. Now or in terms of history. The risk of nuke war is real.
We won’t, remember we are descendants of the Red Army. No need for worrying about this.
Bringing down the drone is Russia signalling that there will soon be a lot of manoeuvres that it doesn’t want to be observed closely.
Which fits with both an actual big Push and no intention to actually Push at all.
So apparently the MQ-9 Reaper drone did not have its transponder activated while flying the mission…hmmmmI wonder why the USAF would want to turn that off lol…I’m sure that little fact will not be reported in the MSM.
Anyway for a nice analysis check this out: https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/breaking-russian-su-27s-finally-down
PS…we now have a preview of what would happen to F16s should they magically appear in the UKR Air Force inventory.
It is unclear at the moment just where the drone came down.
However there are credible reports of serious damage being reported at Credit Swiss and other sites across Europe which may be a Mass-casualty incident (and getting worse fast).
Confirmed direct hit on Credit Swiss.
Due to the recklessness and unprofessional actions of the operator, a trail of immense damage on the ground across Europe is unfolding. The tip of a small blade seems to have fallen upon and upset the balance of a small domino.
Saudi’s say they can not help (or was that last week?), The tiny Government will try to stand tall but will be bowled over by the mass exodus. Then the Bonds will start to fall, by Friday we will se….
*Hold that, CNN, BNN, FT et al are saying all is fine, the Fed fine, we’re all good here. Everything is fine.*
Check back Thurs Zurich 09.00
Doh that was a near miss!
No need to panic it seems, in the early hours an extra 53 billion has been found under the carpet on the third floor. So take your time , form an orderly line, there is enough (Swiss Government) cash for everyone.
And there is and they are taking it! Next!
Doh! Doh!
That went quick.
Has anyone got an extra couple of billion?
Come on man…….. anyone?
Zimbabwe, buddy.
Like a Toblerone left on a hot radiator, this looks bad.
Damn it Jim, I’m a doctor not a Swiss Banker.
She can’t be saved (klaxons sound, lights flash).
To the lifeboats then.
Abandon ship, abandon ship!
No big picture from me today. The SU27 pilot that put down the Predator drone? Right now he is recovering from a epic titty club visit that he did not spend a dime at. His body is probably stickier than a Calcutta gutter. Party on Garth. Back to war tomorrow.
Sounds like something an RAF pilot with an Eton education would do. Perhaps even with bloodlines to the Royal Family.
I think the gasoline thing may be a cover for the Russian advanced electronic counter measures capabilities.
Does anyone remember what happened to the USS Donald Cook on April 10th, 2014 when the Russians disabled the propulsion system and fried all its on board circuits, demorolizing the whole crew? The USS Donald Sitting Duck had to be towed to port, out of its illegal entry into the Black Sea.
Here is the story;
https://thesurvivalmovement.com/what-really-happened-to-the-uss-donald-cook-in-the-black-sea/
Here is the Governing Convention of the Black Sea.
According to the The Montreux Convention, The Bosporus and Dardanelles straits are governed by international treaties such as the Montreux Convention of 1936, which established a common set of rules for the passage of warships. Only vessels from countries bordering the Black Sea are permitted to pass through the strait. Carriers are not subject to this restriction. Russia has long claimed that aircraft carriers can pass through the straits. Within Ukraine, the Truman Carrier Strike Group is in action.
Very interesting observation.
“According to the The Montreux Convention, The Bosporus and Dardanelles straits are governed by international treaties such as the Montreux Convention of 1936, which established a common set of rules for the passage of warships. Only vessels from countries bordering the Black Sea are permitted to pass through the strait. Carriers are not subject to this restriction. Russia has long claimed that aircraft carriers can pass through the straits. Within Ukraine, the Truman Carrier Strike Group is in action.”
Carriers of Black Sea countries can pass, not foreign ones (unless you build one below 15,000-ton limit). In addition to that, in times of war Turkey decides what goes trough.
Int’l distress is 243.0MHz, musta flipped digits:)
I do not believe for one moment that a Russian fighter stuck a part of its fuselage/flight surface into a spinning prop. That is total, complete bull shit. Now, dumping fuel…maybe so, especially if the drone were the turbine powered RQ4. A wash of fuel into the intake would make for issues with the turbine for certain and could cause turbine failure. No effect at all on control or flight surfaces for the most. My first thought is the Russians are sending a message that the U.S. needs to fly somewhere else.
Russia plays the long game, not the big arrow push game and when they get ready to move into Odessa they would rather do so with as few eyes watching as possible. I do have to wonder what Russian assets, submarine wise, they have in the black sea that can recover a sunkern drone.
Now, here is another angle. What if there were no fuel dump? What if the Russian used their superior electronic jammers and brought the RQ 4 down into the ocean. Maybe once jammed they hacked in and flew the drone to Russian territory. Were any of that the case then we can damn sure bet the U.S. will not owe up to that….maybe even make up stories about fuel dumping and prop snapping.
Larry, how does it change the landscape if the drone is indeed an RQ4? Thank you for your work.
The drone incident has one clear message:
“Hi fatzo, we piss on u and trip u head first into whatever is below u”
We did it almost for free, compared to your pathetic $50,000 balloon hunt.
Over and out :))
Are US version of events based on facts, have they produced video, are they being honest with American people on this?
US says one thing; RF says another.
According to Russian Federation, reported by Tass, no physical contact with airborn US military weapon operating in Black Sea.
“The Russian aircraft did not use on-board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle, and returned safely to their home airfield.”
The MQ-9 drone “went into an unguided flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface.”
“On 14 March 2023 in the morning, the Russian airspace control systems have detected an American MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle flying over the Black Sea near the Crimean Peninsula in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation.”
“The drone flew with its transponders off, violating the boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation, communicated to all users of international airspace, and published in accordance with international standards.”
https://tass.com/defense/1588735
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Agreed 100%. I am no longer buying the “Hate China” from the right anymore than the crap about Russia from the left. People from a conservative bent continuously lay into China. I ask what have they done to us?
–Infiltrate our Govt with spies and political bribes?—confirmed
–Manipulate the masses with their propaganda? Maybe but the Democrats have them beat by a long shot. In fact, I bet the Chinese are far more afraid of the Propaganda Paper Tiger screwing with their citizens. We (West) after all centers everything they do around lies and falsehoods meant to sway masses. They have no qualms about turning citizens against one another (Summer of Love).
–Are the Chinese provoking wars around the globe? Sure you can say Taiwan but its public knowledge the reunification was supposed to happened by 2049 in a peaceful fashion.
–China makes a lot of stuff for this country as we all know. The manufacturer execs and Wall Street bear that blame IMHO. We in turn export printed dollars to show our gratitude.
So please someone, tell me why again I am supposed to hate China? Can you really blame them for anything I just listed? Not, anymore than I can blame them of being fed up with the US/West.
“I’ve learned to hate the Russians, all through my whole life, if another war comes, it’s them we must fight, to hate them and fear them, to run and to hide, but accept it all bravely, with God on our side”.
Looks like Bob Dylan will need to change the lyrics to China for the coming decades.
–Are the Chinese provoking wars around the globe? Sure you can say Taiwan but its public knowledge the reunification was supposed to happened by 2049 in a peaceful fashion.
To be fairer, US has acknowledged that Taiwan is a part of China, and that they will not station troops within Taiwan. In the Shanghai Communique (First Joint Communique), point 9:
With these principles of international relations in mind the two sides stated that:
– progress toward the normalization of relations between China and the United States is in the interests of all countries
– both wish to reduce the danger of international military conflict
– neither should seek hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region and each is opposed to efforts by any other country or group of countries to establish such hegemony
– neither is prepared to negotiate on behalf of any third party or to enter into agreements or understandings with the other directed at other states.
and point 11:
The two sides reviewed the long-standing serious disputes between China and the United States. The Chinese side reaffirmed its position: the Taiwan question is the crucial question obstructing the normalization of relations between China and the United States; the Government of the People’s Republic of China is the sole legal government of China; Taiwan is a province of China which has long been returned to the motherland; the liberation of Taiwan is China’s internal affair in which no other country has the right to interfere; and all U.S. forces and military installations must be withdrawn from Taiwan. The Chinese Government firmly opposes any activities which aim at the creation of “one China, one Taiwan”, “one China, two governments”, “two Chinas”, an “independent Taiwan” or advocate that “the status of Taiwan remains to be determined”.
Yet based on the actions of the US increasing military presence towards China, as well as intentions to place troops in Taiwan itself are direct violations to the terms agreed upon. This I believe, can be considered by China as an invasion of the US should they put troops in Taiwan again without China consent
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-expand-troop-presence-in-taiwan-for-training-against-china-threat-62198a83
While I do not know the true competence of the intelligence agencies in US, I tend to have a feeling that their plan is not just break up Russia and China. I believe they want to expand NATO into a global security, which is led by US. This is their ultimate plan for global dominance. In order to do so, they have to scare the world about the threats of a common enemy. Thus, they spent many years creating an enemy out of Russia and China so that countries will turn towards NATO (led by US) due to insecurity. It is a great long term plan, except that the rise of China was too rapid and had disrupted their plans, forcing them to start certain moves before they are ready.
So I do not fully believe that US is incapable, but I would say that there are some miscalculations and they are trying to adjust and doesn’t not look too promising(thankfully). Due to their miscalculations and their reckless adjustment plans, the other countries start to find US being too intimidating and starts to agree on the multi-polar system, which would likely stop the plans of global domination. Not sure if this is for the benefit of humanity, but as a non-Western, I am at least glad I won’t be discriminated against.
Good comment Luke
I also read some history a few years back which detailed how America when it was the upcoming power in late 1800s and early 1900s stole copious amounts of IP and copied patented technologies from other nations that they knocked off just as so many people indignantly accuse China of doing.
I have no doubt China does engage in that activity – but so did America – as did every other emerging upcoming empire and power throughout history steal and copy the technologies of the incumbent power.
Maybe one day we will realize how stupid it was to try and protect every new technology this way so a few people can get super rich. Notwithstanding I think that the entrepreneurs and inventors deserve to be incentivized with much greater rewards for their invention and enterprise, but not to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars when large swathes of the world are having to subsist on only a dollar or two a day.
In a world now exhausting some of its most essential resources it would make much better sense to share and transfer all the best of breed technologies real fast to the whole world so we can cooperatively lift all nations up out of poverty and then multiply the power and efficiencies of our combined shared development to maximum advantage. The reduction of resource waste that could be achieved by such cooperation and not having to forever duplicate and reinvent wheels would be game-changing.
Like what is to hate about the idea of a world where every nation and person is able to enjoy the best of everything at much lower costs without the rent-seeking extraction of massive wealth through IP patent protection and with much more efficient allocation of resources that are getting ever scarcer and more costly to extract.
The mind boggles at what the world might have been like long ago had nations and people set about sharing and helping each other develop rather than the stronger nations and empires always trying to stomp the weaker nations and people down and keep them out of the game.
By the way if China had not fast-tracked its development this way then it would have remained forever under the heel of the rentier pirates who would prefer to have slave labour workshops all over China in perpetuity, like we have seen in the last few decades with the big American and other European corporations operating massive slave labour industries just a notch above internment camps for the poor souls who have to work in them for a pittance. Now China is rising and lifting wages for Chinese workers as they quickly orient to developing bigger more sustainable internal markets so they are less dependent on exports – and America and its rich allies in the wider empire do not like what is happening and are pulling out all stops to smash China back down. But their plans are not going to work out because China has become too strong now.
Thank you Allan…great comment yourself. We’re supposed to hate China because “they steal” information. As you said, who the hell doesn’t.
The beginning of the Industrial Revolution in the US can be traced to Samuel Slater, founder of the Slater Mill in Pawtucket, RI in 1790. Slater had been apprentice in a mill in England using the developments of Arkwright in water powered spinning and weaving machinery, and so it was illegal for him to leave England with that knowledge. He left anyways with all that Intellectual Property, and went into partnership with the Brown family to develop his own mill.
“I ask what have they done to us?”
Toxic drywall.
Toxic paint.
Toxic infant formula.
Toxic toddler toys.
Toxic dog treats and food.
Toxic cat food.
Toxic vitamins.
These all pale in comparison to the fentanyl problem. They
started making it as two separate components and then ship them separately to skirt the drug laws. I think most people would agree that shows malicious intent. They’ve done plenty to intentionally harm us but I don’t think you should hate them.
The Russians mention sharp maneuvers.
Is it possible to get these drones to get confused by their own automatic collision avoidance protocols by “buzzing” them? That is, the drones down themselves because their flight routines stall it or send it to the deck?
And if so, could this tactic tested by these Russian Pilots, be then be rolled out to “interceptor drones” that buzz other drones instead of more kinetic options?
We’ve been doing these little “slaps on the face” to the Russians for a while now, when they don’t respond physically we assume it’s because they are weak. Now, the shoe is on the other foot.
Based on Larry’s assessment of the “intelligence” delivered to the President I’m guessing it goes a lot like this:
https://youtu.be/dmpr3eLl9E0
I would not be surprised if it was indeed a Global Hawk, but the US leaders are trying to downplay the incident as not to bring too much embarrassment upon themselves.
First, because the price gap between a rickety Reaper compared to the gigantic, ultra high tech GH is astronomical, second, the fuel dump would be a tactic more in line with trying to cause a catastrophic jet engine failure, which the GH possesses.
Global Hawks have been the standard drone operating over the Black Sea for years. But, since no one in the civilian world will ever see the wreckage,… it was a reaper, period!
someone has already fished the wreck…
but it’s not about the Western journalists who will continue to peddle NATOTAN crap
Just to add about the comments regarding the dumping of fuel in front of the drone. As an ex aircraft maintainer if the fuel story has any truth , you could starve the engine of air thus creating a compressor stall , but at 52k feet altitude there would be ample time for the operator to pitch nose down and attempt a relight which is standard op procedure. I don’t in my view see this as a credible way of downing an aircraft. Again speculation but just my 2 cents worth.
Seems to me “accidently” hitting the drones prop gives plausible deniability saying the drone was not actually shot down. So not an act of war. First thing that entered my head was the missile “accidently” launched at the AWACS a while ago. After which we haven’t seen manned aircraft spying over the Black sea.
If it was EW as suggested this is still a good cover story for it that both sides are likely to embrace.
Dumping the fuel on the drone was Russia saying “Piss On You”. 🙂
Larry, when you discuss intelligence community you never discuss the privatization of intelligence. What do you think the intelligence for profit does to further the safety of the USA?
I’ve read six articles about the incident, and have six completely different accounts.
Vive l’ère de l’information!
It’s almost like everyone is guessing, because real info is top secret.
The two of you touched on the Washington Post article. Between that, and the recent revelations in the NYT & Bild about the Ukrainian role in the attack on the Nord Stream, I can hear the rumble of the bus warming up in the distance…. Zelensky had one Diem moment in front of Congress, might the second one be coming soon?
mr. henderson thinks nuke war may be imminent. he is very antizionist in his thinking.
Jeff Rense and Mitchell Henderson – Amazing Interview
https://www.bitchute.com/video/eKxKRjIIywng/
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-and-j6-prison-choir-song-hits-1-itunes
The more I think about this drone incident, the more questions I have than answers. So, WHY did this happen, and as Larry says, why NOW? Seems the US would have had to be willing to risk a $32 million dollar asset to pull this stunt – it could be destroyed or captured. So, why do it? (a) test run for a future attack on Crimea (b) gathering intel (c) hoping to test/gather intel on air defenses the Russians have on Crimea (d) escalation to push for F-16s (see below….) (e) all of the above?
I saw folks asking on the interwebs last night, why not shoot it down? Since stuff you shoot down in the sky goes BOOM, neither side would have plausible deniability/narrative control of the incident. Maybe the US/NATO got some intel, but personally I think this just created on opportunity for the Russians: (a) a chance to capture a US asset (b) an opportunity to test its capabilities against a manned warplane – can they destabilize the drone? I’ve read they are both remotely manned AND can be pre-programmed for flights, with “back up” programming if things go wonky. Does anyone here know which is correct, or is it BOTH? If its both, the Russians may have found out which method was being used, lol. I did read last night that it may be possible to destabilize the drone by “rolling over” it in a fighter jet and/or giving it an afterburner blast with the same effect (that would be some cool film to see!). Then you pee jet fuel on it just for fun lol.
So, today of course 8 of our congressional mid-wits wrote a letter to Sec Def Austin to ask what it would take to get the Ukies F-16s and of course Lindsay Graham is screeching at the top of his lungs.
Why did this happen NOW? Anybody remember how hard the Russians have been hitting Ochakov the last couple of weeks? Apparently, in 2017 the Sea Bees built a naval operating center for the “Ukrainian” Navy (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) in Ochakov. You sure have a nice view of Crimea from there. I’ve always thought re-taking Crimea was a goal for the US/UK/NATO/Ukies for various reasons. Then again maybe I just had too much coffee today. What do you folks think?
https://quemadoinstitute.org/2017/08/18/new-us-naval-base-on-ukraines-black-sea-coast/
On the podcast mandela was mentioned. I will respectfully disagree with Mr. Johnson that mandela was not a communist. I believe that he definitely was and since him and his party took over; south africa has been turned into a shithole. Under biden we are know following the same path.
How True is Farmlands Today? #SouthAfrica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8pXQTi0xAI
https://mg.co.za/article/2014-01-23-mandela-a-nationalist-and-a-marxist/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nelson-mandela-marxist_n_4399998
respectfully,
ralph