If Black Lives really Mattered, the black community would rise up and destroy Planned Parenthood. Why? Because 19 million black babies have been slaughtered in abortions since 1972. This is three times the number of Jews exterminated in the Holocaust.
One black brother understands and confronted a group of medical personnel protesting in support of continuing doing abortions:
I want to buy this dude a dinner. His choice. He lays it out perfectly exposing the hypocrisy inherent in the abortion industry.
The leak of Justice Alito’s ruling that states should have the final say in whether or not infanticide is allowed was a planned op. What puzzles me is why the baby murderers decided to blow this up now. The American public has a short attention span. All of the outrage and faux anger being voiced by the Planned Parenthood crowd today is likely to fade into the background when the judicial opinion is released in June. Why did they shoot their wad now? I attribute it to desperation.
Here is the reality. This opinion does not end abortion. It merely codifies that states can set their own policies. If you are black and living in New York or California, these liberal enclaves encourage black women to kill their offspring. It is that simple. Those who proclaim that we are going back to the bad old days of using coat hangers to kill a prospective child are liars.
Democrat hopes that this will change their trajectory of defeat looming in the November elections is delusional. Most Americans are on board for protecting the lives of babies. There is an evil minority that embraces killing those who cannot protect themselves. But they are a minority.
There is an odd benefit from this debate over abortion. During the last two years we have been subjected to a constant hectoring that there is no such thing as a woman. Nope, birthing persons. This madness includes an Oregon school system putting maxi pad stations in boy’s toliets. Yeah, that makes sense. All the boys need a Kotex pad to staunch their monthly menstrual cycle. That is a visible definition of insanity.
Democrats have a choice to make. Is there such a thing as women who menstruate and give birth to children or is this just a social construct? “Our bodies our right” sure is tough to reconcile with government mandates that you must be vaccinated regardless of your views about a vaccine that does not work.
I am just popping pop corn and pouring a cold one. I love watching the loones on the left set themselves on fire.
BLM become a parody of it’s own name , created as one of the political weapon to attack trump admin , it morphed into a monster
It’s amazing how women are always attacked and told what to do by men. Men get so sanctimonious and dictatorial when oppressing women.
– abortion -men tell women what do when they are not women and have zero experience of the realities of pregnancy. They don’t do shit in the pregnancy but get to moralise. Load of hypocrites
– transgender – men get to define what a women is and that a man can be a woman
– Taliban – men tell women what to wear, where to walk, whether they can get educated
How about men get the hell out of women’s issues and telling them who they are, what they can do and where they can do it. Neither the state nor federal gov get to define, control or force women to do what they don’t want to do.
Want to lower unwanted pregnancies? Jail men who fail to use a comdom. Convict them of murder if child aborted, fine them, punish them, but leave women the hell alone.
lower unwanted pregnancies ? blame men ? why not blame both for fornication / adultery ? after all the blame lay on them both and their punishment is to raise the kid
As the saying goes, it takes two to tango. The mystery of pregnancy was solved a long time ago, we know how it happens and we know how to prevent it. Blaming the man is idiotic, the woman actually controls the scene. Every sexually active woman knows how to avoid unwanted pregnancy.
This is another means to avoid taking responsibility for their actions, of course trying to avoid responsibility for their actions is a leftie/Dem hallmark.
Nonsense. Men need to be held to account for unwanted children they create. Why should the women suffer. Jail or hang men who create unwanted babies and I guarantee the abortion rate will fall dramatically.
Men have greater responsibility for pregnancy.
again you are constantly trolling even when people tried to discuss thing with civility.
it is obvious you are seeking to disrupt the issue by insisting the irrational blaming on one side and taking the democrat talking point / narrative.
when 2 consenting adult do something in life , there’s a little thing called responsibilty. Plenty of so called preventive medication available to prevent unwanted pregnancies , if both sides do not exercise their action with resposibility then both are guilty.
your continuous peddling of govt narrative are so obvious
If you are a woman, you make me ashamed to be classed like you.
What sort of woman are you that you refuse to take responsibility for your own actions?
As a woman, I am a PARTNER with my husband. My husband has never even thought of ‘telling me what to do or say’.
You don’t want to get pregnant, then use BIRTH CONTROL. If your partner refuses a condom, then get yourself an IUD, go on The Pill, OR REFUSE SEX. Simple. And if your partner has problems with that, then you’ve got more problems than just pregnancy.
But no matter, MURDERING YOUR CHILD is NOT a form of birth control.
You assume all women have equal access to birth control and understanding partners. They don’t.
Women are the first to bully, oppress and talk down other women. Look at Harris, Ahern, Sturgeon, etc who have pushed through transgender legislation without consulting women.
Which is the point. No one is consulting women on any of these issues and women whether on left or right are quite happy to define women, say what women are and decide what they can or can’t do.
The fact you abuse people, or call them trolls instead of reasoning is sign of lack of ability to argue a point. Play the ball not the man.
When people hysterically accuse those who disagree with them of being trolls others lose interest in their comments and they might as well be bots on repeat.
Your personal experience does not address the issues of over 100,000 women raped each year in UK, or of women coerced by partners, or abused. Nor do you give agency to women.
Basic point. Who decides what women are or what they can do? The law? Other women? Men?
Left or right. No one listens to women.
Also if you understand science, a non viable or not independent foetus is not the same as child. It is not capable of independent existence. It exists only due to the mother and if the mother withdraws that support it’s not murder.
People may have religious opinions but they have no right to impose them on others.
I pity you Ash. I really do.
What you must have gone through to end up with your attitude towards men, AND children.
And fyi, the American Democrat senators are aiming to make the murder of your unborn child legal, UP TO BIRTH.
Tell some preemie that s/he could have been aborted because s/he was NOT VIABLE.
Abortion is not a women’s issue. At least half of those murdered babies were female, future women. You’ve been drinking the Kool-aid.
If it’s not in your body it’s not your business.
Maybe science needs to work on a way to implant unwanted pregnancies in men like you. But then you would probably abort them.
Why should any woman risk her life and mental health for what some irresponsible man did.
If there is an abortion. Kill the man who got the woman pregnant. Abortion will drop 99%
It’s also not my business when one person murders another person. I’m not getting murdered, so why should I have any say?
Women don’t have the right to take a human life because they are acting like whores and don’t want to be held responsible for their actions.
The government doesn’t have the right to condemn innocent lives to death.
The urge to kill your own offspring is unnatural. Any species that did this in nature would go extinct in short order, nature selects against this behavior, yet it’s encouraged in modern society. This is how the Mousetopia experiment ended.
“kill the man”?? You mentioned ‘rape’ in an earlier post. Look at the stats. The number of abortions BECAUSE OF RAPE are minuscule, so extremely low.
No Ash, women go to ABORTION as a means of BIRTH CONTROL. There are ways to PREVENT conception. Some of those methods are FREE.
Ash,
What you and many others are missing is that the question before the Supremes is one of states’ rights versus the federal government. Federalism is an old and important issue in the USA. That is what is being decided, not the legality, morality or appropriateness of abortion.
That said, I can’t help but comment on something you said. Men have no right to weigh in on the issue because they don’t get pregnant nor understand pregnancy? Well, my response is that if women don’t know they’re pregnant after the first trimester and thus need to have abortions after that, then women don’t understand pregnancy either and maybe they need men to help them think about it. Yes, yes, yes, there could be a medical issue that arises after the first trimester of an intended pregnancy that threatens the mother’s life and that an abortion could ameliorate. Having worked in healthcare insurance data for large insurance companies for about 20 years now, studying diagnoses, procedures, associated costs, etc., I can assure you that such situations are rare and hardly merit all of the screaming and angst. No doubt medical emergencies can be addressed by the states when they create their state specific laws.
Back to men v women in understanding pregnancy – what woman is not aware of birth control and the “morning after pill”, which is available over the counter and the cost of which can be subsidized by the state? What responsible woman wouldn’t go out and get that pill the morning after unprotected sex? In fact, what responsible woman who admits to herself that she might possibly have unprotected sex at some point, wouldn’t keep a morning after pill or two in her medicine cabinet? Again, it seems that women are the ones who don’t understand pregnancy.
As for BLM.its a organisation that capitalized on the death of one person. It’s clearly been shown since as corrupt and not representative of all black Americans.
And this is the problem. Does anybody know the percentage of Black Americans supportung BLM? No right. No polling on this.
Statistical research and analysis over years has shown it takes about 7% of the population actively supporting a cause to create a revolution.
Revolutions are caused by a small minority behaving consistently and vocally over time.
Group think means that larger groups tend to be intimidated by a small minority that clearly believes in what they do.
Because the larger group usually has no firm opinion or has not considered the matter, the 7% can push them into positions before they are ready.
This sort of bulldozing is now increasingly common in the West.
Look at Canada protests. The Canadian gov immediately got in there are tarred the protestors as racists and thugs andvdyd not let them get a head of steam.
Don’t understimate a small determined minority.
Indeed!
https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Century-Yuri-Slezkine/dp/0691127603
Great commentary, will be citing this.
For my part, I did not come to this website to engage in half-century-old culture war recriminations. And since my personal preferences run to verse composition rather than stale prose polemics, please pardon me for taking the subject matter in a somewhat different, but still relevant, direction. Consider, then, the following excerpt from Anthony Burgess’s verse novel Byrne (posthumously published in 1995):
After due reflection upon the ancient theological/political implications in an age of evolutionary biology, I thought I’d try discoursing upon the theme of profligate progeny with:
Just my little contribution to the cacophony . . .
As if abortion isn’t controversial enough…
I prefer it when Larry stays on the topic of Ukraine. As far as abortion is concerned, it is so controversial. But ok. My own view is that in human society, the unborn (not yet viable) have no rights because they have no relations with anyone other than the mother. It has to be the mother’s decision whether or not to abort because she is the only person involved. That’s just my view. But I would also say that if a democratic vote is necessary, only women should get to vote on the subject because men can never be in the situation of having to make such a decision – which must be tough enough without all this social yammering. Meanwhile, I will keep monitoring Larry’s website for news and views about Ukraine.
I don’t agree. There is nothing in the header of this blog that says it is a Ukraine war news agency. Yes the war is a very important topic, one that affects us all but it not the only topic that affects us all.
I for one would love to get Larry’s take on several topical issues, like the election fraud for example.
Larry’s insight to the Ukraine war in invaluable, but I am willing to bet Larry can be enlightening on many other subjects of importance.
So are you suggesting that it is okay to kill a recluse?
Generally agree with this.
The only debate is in my view on late term abortions. Once the foetus is viable and cab live on its own there is a strong case for s caesarian section and incubation
. However because of the cost of this and the fact the state will not help pay women, many who develop mental health issues or are unwell in my other ways, go for late term abortions.
The state needs to pay for the option of medical support for late term viable pregnancies.
to those who stand at the top in a collapsing economic system the most important thing other than the acquisition of …more… and control… of all… underneath, misdirection becomes critical if you want to remain at the top.
since the many always outnumber the few and force is always with the many ensuring the many never coalesce into understanding exactly who is responsible for …how things got to be the way they are….compels elites to foster an environment that splits people into categories and insert mutually exclusive dogma to keep the many at each others throats.
blm, roe v wade, blue/red, and a litany of other hot buttons serve this single purpose.
eventually as things degrade economically coherency is lost…….in public policy, foreign policy, social policy as incompetence becomes institutionalized and gravity takes over.
extant roe v wade or its being struck down in the larger picture is a small part of the atomization and the building hatred americans have towards one another ultimately on the road toward the divorce of the unified 50 states of the american nation.
once enough americans refuse to accept as equal other americans who do not share their beliefs demanding compliance by coercion from the non believers there is no longer any reason to remain one nation. over the past few years this liberal intolerance directed at ”the others” becomes ever more inescapable to ignore.
Bingo! Trot out a hot button issue to keep the rubes squabbling and distracted. Works every time. Wars are also a great distraction. But, then I think the Ukraine war is more of a geopolitical power play by the neocons. Just like all the Middle East wars were fought for Israel. Here’s the explanation.
https://original.antiwar.com/dan_sanchez/2015/06/29/clean-break-to-dirty-wars/
One thing is clear. The current Biden team, Nuland , Blinken who are Straussians, clearly had plans long ago.
Trump delayed these. But they got him in the end. Now they are going for Musk, Twitter and Truth Social.
What is the real question.
The real question is who is the power behind the throne and what exactly do they have planned.
US trebling military deployment to Africa. Nairobi flooded with US intelligence ops. Israel stepping up attacks. Maybe Iran strike soon while war elsewhere detracts. Hotel in Cuba just blew up.
Are we seeing the bigger picture?
We all squabble over nothing burgers.
Few ask what the hell is really going on.
Havard Prof. Robert Putman performed a study about “Diverse” societies. Being a raging lefty, he assumed his study would show manifold benefits of a diverse culture, instead it showed the opposite. Diversity increases social distrust and destroys the cohesion of society.
https://www.ft.com/content/c4ac4a74-570f-11db-9110-0000779e2340
One must ask why the leaders of the West have welcomed mass immigration with the intended destruction of culture and society. The only answer I can come up with is to make central control easier through a divide and conquer strategy.
Mass media and the entertainment complex are at the vanguard of inculcating the society on woke ideology which is inherently anti-male and anti-white.
gore vidal, an astute social critic noticed in the late 1990’s that all multicultural societies of which america is near the top are all held together by force and once the center, in our case the washington dc (federal government) , starts to fail, which has been happening since 2016 and now accelerating the periphery parts begin to fly apart by centrifugal force.
as this occurs expect the federal government, rather those oligarchs who own the federal government attempt to institute increasing authoritarianism in an effort to forestall centrifugal force. the recent creation of the homeland disinformation bureau is an example.
history starts as tragedy and repeats as farce………welcome to the farce that is american government
The parade of US Presidential clowns are a testiment to the farce.
The word “civilised” comes from the Greek word “civilos”. A civilised person was considered a person who had traveled and studied widely and who had a good understanding of other cultivation, languages and of all social and economic classes.
So in the one hand multi cultural ism opens the door to bring civilised, learning,sharing and growing in understanding and cultural wealth.
On the other hand. Humans are territorial and values can clash. If the meeting if cultures is not done with the right mind set on both sides conflict arises.
If it is done to quickly or en mass. Resentment arises. Hate begins to take hold.
The current wave of migrants admitted through the US southern border is not coming in by mistake.
Poland just said it has no border with Ukrainie. No border exists.
The question is nothing to do with cultures.
The question is how does it benefit the Biden Nuland Blinkens to have such a huge wave of immigration from souther border.
Answer that. And a thread on Margas shawl is pulled loose.
I agree the educated person can appreciate different people and cultures. Such people generally come from an environment of abundance where they have the luxury to study. But under the regime of scarce resources and competition, people are tribal. In the US, mass migration is driving down blue collar wages for the benefit of businesses. In addition,these immigrants increases costs to the public through increased taxes for school and law enforcement, increased medical costs because of the mandate to treat the uninsured., etc. In addition, immigrants usually form their own cliques and the different cliques distrust each othe as the Havard study indicated.
The Neocons love mass immigration. Their philosophy is: invade the world, invite the world. Why this is can be found in
https://lobelog.com/neoconservativism-in-a-nutshell/
The book “Freakonomic” was very popular a while back. It applied statistical and economic analysis to a number of issues and drew conclusions that were often surprising.
One of the issues explored was the violent crime wave associated with crack cocaine back in the 1990s and why it stopped. His conclusion was abortion. The young fatherless men of color ( who Hillary referred to as superpredators) were culled by abortion. Not sure if his analysis was correct, but it is food for thought.
Also, the entire abortion issue is debated by two extreme camps. One side says a day old fertilized egg is a human. The other side say an 8 month old fetus is not a baby. Both sides seem a bit nutty to me.
The problem is, without strong social conventions to control the behavior of amorous youths, many unwanted pregnancies will occur and this is a burden on society (which is why those strong social conventions existed in the first place).
Rights come with responsibilities and unfortunately our idiot government feels compelled to stand up and support the irresponsible at the expense of the responsible.
A nation needs wise leaders, and we are stuck with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. We are doomed!
Interesting. I had not read that book but I will certainly do so now.
No doubt it’s premises have been studied and incorporated into AI gaming systems somewhere.
I applaud the brave man in that video. He sure called them out! And thank you Larry for addressing this issue. There’s more going on in the world that deserves comment than the war in Ukraine. Abortion is a life and death issue too.
Yes, abortion will REMAIN LEGAL in at least parts of the US even if Roe v. Wade is struck down. Pre-Roe, some women had to travel out-of-town or out-of-state to obtain abortions, often with the assistance of Planned Parenthood. Facilitating abortion in addition to providing birth control is the reason it existed in the first place. Since Roe, abortions often became as convenient as going to the dentist so it’s no wonder the numbers of abortions rose dramatically. Over 40% of women who obtain them have had multiple abortions. That it’s essentially become a form of birth control is inexcusable. This, combined with the gruesome advocacy of legalizing it even for full-term babies, PLUS the post-Roe technology of ultrasound illustrating the human-like anatomy of fetuses, has given many people pause (to say the least) about unrestricted abortion rights since Roe v. Wade was first decided by the court in 1973. Then, in the wake of the “Sexual Revolution” and unlike today, out-of-wedlock births were harshly stigmatized. Birth control is now a routine aspect of women’s health. Women have entered the workforce in large numbers. Times have changed.
This Supreme Court decision, if it indeed is the decision the court ultimately decides, has more to do with adhering to the US Constitution and our system of federalism than it does with abortion. Each state will decide the terms of abortion. Hysterical reactions based on the ignorance of those who wrongly believe abortion will be totally proscribed, by protesters apparently paid for by “stipends” in some cases, are intellectually dishonest as usual.
You provide zero solutions. You use Taliban style reasoning.
– because religion says so women must be oppressed abd forced to do what they don’t want to do. They must be criminalised and punished for taking freedom over their own bodies and lives.
Same logic.
You want less abortion. Fine.
Do you even understand why women get abortions? Have you been raped? Pregnant? Mentally ill due to pregnancy or post partum? Developed diabetes it thyroid disorders due to pregnancy.
Ofcourse not. Like the Taliban you pontificate and whip women like cattle but you understand absolutely nothing.
Agreed, the abortion issue will be propagandized – as has been the case countless times, but generally leading up to presidential election years. That it’s become an issue at this point leading up to a mid-term election is more unusual. Larry’s likely correct that leaking the Alito opinion was an act of desperation.
Oops, I meant this in reply to a comment by buntalanlucu farther along in the thread.
As to you, Ash, accusing me of “Taliban” reasoning, YOUR reasoning skill leaves much to be desired: I said nothing about religion. I said nothing about criminalizing women who seek abortions. I didn’t “whip women like cattle” either. Work on your reading comprehension.
Play nice kids.
You are dead right that black lives don’t matter, and they never have. Black activists hide the fact that it was black Africans who went out and rounded up other blacks to sell to black slavers who then sold them to European ship’s captains for transport elsewhere. The demand for workers gave them a new lucrative business; instead of killing the men they captured (and keeping the women and younger children), they could sell them and make a bundle. Then in the Americas, blacks continued killing each other and patrols had to be set up to keep them from murdering and stealing. After the Civil War, they continued killing each other, just as they do today.
As for Planned Parenthood, it’s a well-known fact that it’s founder, Margaret Sanger, saw birth control as a means of reducing the black population. Planned Parenthood executives saw abortion as a means of continuing what she started after abortion became legal. By the way, murder has long been a common practice in the human race. Activists, most of them women, merely justified it by claiming it’s “a woman’s right to choose” when it’s actually the taking of a human life, regardless of whether it’s taken it’s first breath of air. By the way, abortion is a lucrative business.
dahomey was the west african enclave/capital of the slave trade.
planned parenthood was all about eugenics from the start and if you do some research one of the orgs from where hitler got his ideas about eliminating the unwanted untermenschen
bill gates’s father was big in the planned parenthood organization while bill was sitting at the dinner table growing up
Maybe but let’s not take away agency from women.
Planned Parenthood does not cause abortion, it facilitates it.
Unwanted pregnancies cause abortion. Want to reduce abortion understand why it happens instead of blanket blame to providers careering to demand, ask why is there a demand.
In the end women decide on abortions. Planned Parenthood is just a bit of a scapegoat if I may say.
Also on slavery. Let’s get facts right.
The largest slave traders were the Arabs. Originally they took European slaves – hence the large numbers of white Arabs.
When Europe began to fight back they took African slaves.
Eg in Kenya all slavery was by the Arabs and Omani and stopped by the British.
There is no question Western Europeans and Americans took slaves but they did so alongside Arabs and Queen of Sheba etc.
The pyramids after all are built by slaves.
Slavery properly viewed is not a “white” problem. It is a human problem that continues to this day.
The word slave comes from Slavs as they were taken as slaves early on.
Greeks took red headed Scott’s as slaves.
The difference between Western slavery and others is it’s more recent and the slaves were integrated and mixed into the population less.
More recent slavery was the Sudanese enslaving the South Sudanese and people like Baroness Cox buying their freedom.
All slavery is brutal and wrong. But so is a failure to properly understand and contextualise slavery.
Slavery is a mindset. Control of anothers freedoms for one’s own end.
The game now is not slavery of people but of nations.
“Black Lives Matter” was always merely a catchy name for a group of well paid professional agitators owned by the Democrat party. The abortions of blacks continue, the rampant violent crime, drug addiction, low educational attainment and sense of disenfranchisement and hopeless run rampant. No one does anything about it. In fact, the democrats reinforce it all. Instead of giving UKR $billions upon $billions, that money could be used to develop real programs that really help blacks and their communities. I can see black suffering in any US city. I can’t see UKR or Russian aggression from US cities. You are correct that Black lives do not matter beyond being pawns for their white masters.
Colour is largely irrelevant in the power structures of society. Obama, Jay Z, Kanye these are powerful figures in society. They sit at all the cool tables
Colour and race only really matter to the poor and to some extent the middle class.
Class and wealth is a greater factor that colour.
An alien looking at what the Democrats did to American blacks would conclude that all the programs, all the money was designed to destroy America blacks coherence as a community as well as destroy their family structure.
I also believe it was by design.
As we have observed in other areas, it was too stupid to be just stupid. It had to be deliberate.
A rich cultural heritage was destroyed. It was a crime. Add the holocaust of black abortion and you have a bona fide crime against humanity.
The intent was never to eliminate racism because they ended up institutionalizing it.
It seems they perfected the destruction starting with Black families and are now coming after the rest of us. A waitress I know, her daughter was out at a bar last night and someone put fentanyl in her drink. If it weren’t for an off duty nurse and an off duty paramedic, she’d be dead. She’s gonna make it due to luck. Thank God.
It’s also that until Trump republicans never really went after the black or Hispanic vote.
He’s shown that if you reach out many black Americans are open to an alternative.
The whole issue is so blatantly obvious , the leak , the fake anger , the hilarious sheeple of the left , all clamoring to ‘vote democrat november’. After the failure of biden’s admin in managing economy and even worse failure in covering up their mess in ukraine proxy war , now their only weapon left at hand is using this issue to save themselves.
i saw and concur with discussion representing both sides , but i also saw plenty of TROLL/SHILL post trying to drive to issue by blaming on one side only , some goes too far by blaming ‘men/male’ in an irrational and FAKE outburst.
Mark my words , this issue will be propagandized just as bad as the ukraine war propaganda. The usual trolls and sheeples in all social media will be activated to drive the vote to democrats. Even here at SONAR12 i saw the usual proneocon trolls suddenly change subject and become pro democrat troll in their shitposting here.