Craig served in the U.S. military and hosts a podcast, Radiant Creators. He hosted me today to discuss recent events in Ukraine.
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Putin famously called the US “Empire of Lies”.
None of the lies of Ukraine would matter if not repeated and magnified by the Western media. These lies are welcomed if not out and out manufactured by the West.
Highly recommend this latest discourse between Mercouris and Diesen re: the EU’s transition from original beginnings as an economic bloc to a political bloc, creeping authoritarianism within the EU as it simultaneously surrenders to US ‘interests’, and as it nears the apex of its recruitment drive, relies more on the stick vs the carrot in maintaining an orthodox comformity….. and how it’s all come to a head in Ukraine.
Why so many people want Turkey to enter the EU????
Where are you from, Mondo Cane??
Are you european???
I’m spanish. I have lived also 7 years in Germany.
I have never met an european who wants Turkey to join the EU.
Never.
You are mixing 1 and 2. Inside your head it seems reasonable, right?
But only there.
You are mixing 1 and 2. Inside your head it seems reasonable, right?
But only there.
Not at all. There is a common juncture of 1 & 2. See if you can find it.
Turkey applied decades ago and had been strung along almost as long. Turkey’s abandoned the notion, exactly for the reason you stated – no European welcomes it. But why? That’s the key. The answer lies outside the cultural & religious and even the economic envelope.
I’ll give you a hint: What do Brussels and Washington have in common?
Muralidhar Raosays
Sir, I can feel your pain.
However if Turkey and the Turkish people are so despicable for the European values, then why have them in the NATO in the first place?
I can tell you why : Because Turkey has a real army compared to the rest of the Europe and the Lords of the Europe thought that Turkey is a good battering ram against Russia.
It seems to me that the grand master Putin some how coopted Turks and they are slowly moving away from NATO. It is a very slow process but it is a possible outcome. You can’t use people and believe the BS you dole out to them forever.
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On Ukrainian ideology and the root causes of POW execution near Makiivka
RT war correspondent Murad Gazdiev @msgazdiev published a story with an interview with a former fighter of the 80th Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU from Lviv, whose members executed Russian captives in Makiivka in the LNR.
Our team managed to identify five members of the massacre of Russian servicemen: Artur Bortnichuk, Nazar Mikhailovsky, Andrey Sokol, Bogdan Kovgan, and Nikita Maltsev. But the man in the frame tells us what motivated them.
He mentions things already known, like the work of US information and psychological operations specialists with the compound’s personnel or orders to shell civilian infrastructure in Donbass.
However, there is a key point: an ex-serviceman of the AFU emphasizes that hatred towards everything Russian was inculcated in the 80 Brigade long before the large-scale hostilities.
And this seemingly small detail is extremely important. After all, it once again reminds us that hatred towards Russia and everything Russian in Ukraine was cultivated at all levels. With the beginning of the UAS, it just got out and showed itself in full force.
That is why there is virtually no reflection in Ukrainian society on the AFU’s shelling of residential areas with “petal mines”, where people in all seriousness believe in the “self-shooting” of Donetsk.
That is why the rank-and-file soldiers of the Ukrainian armed forces shoot prisoners in the legs near Kharkiv on camera, cut the throats of the wounded near Kyiv, and execute civilians without trial, outstripping any so-called “national battalion” in their brutality.
That is why the townspeople easily demolish monuments to figures of the distant past, who lived hundreds of years before Ukraine itself was formed, and vote for a ban on the Russian language, which they themselves speak.
And that is why peaceful coexistence with Ukraine is simply not possible under any circumstances – its ingrained local ideology is fundamentally not an option. As it stands, the country poses a constant threat to Russia.
And the only real way to eliminate it is a complete military defeat of the AFU, followed by the demolition of Ukrainian statehood. There are no other ways right now.
Those that sow hatred sit safely in Washington/London/etc. out of reach of evil, and will die in a mansion of natural causes. If you don’t believe me, ask Madeleine Albright.
They are indeed personification of evil, but they don’t do evil stuff to themselves. Madeleine & co. exported it all across the ocean to Iraqi kids and others, and got away with it.
Excellent.
Young Craig is good, professional style and conversational presentation. Another learning experience and generally depressing but distant light at the end of the tunnel.
Interesting exchange. Thank you Mr. Johnson for sharing it.
And thank you to “ralph says 22 November 2022 at 00:51” for the download link. I don’t run scripts on my machine and couldn’t see the video in the post.
Don’t think there are any other armed force besides Ukrainian and some pisslim terrorists like hezbollah and the gaza fakestineans that regularly sport nazi symbols including swastikas.
ukrainia is a mafia country full of nazis.
Venezuerican corruption there is considerable.
This war has been a distraction for Venezuerican consumption besides a cover up for government corruption since the start.
How to imagine the current situation of the vast leftoxenomorph machine all around Venezuerica and the effort of so many non-leftoxenomorphs to try and fight against the poisonous maggots?
A cloud of Chihuahuas yapping around the feet of a T-Rx that doesn’t pay too much attention to them and goes about its business undeterred because the little punks can’t even bite its thick skin with any effectiveness.
And from time to time the pitiful last cry of one or a few of them as the T-Rex crashes them to death underfoot without even noticing.
It’s a disgraceful image.
My hope is that the Russians step on the ukies like the nazi filth they are.
(noticed a considerable amount of audio distortion in my copy of the video.)
Good stuff as always, Larry. The kid’s a good interviewer. As to the issue of POWs, the Geneva Convention as regards their treatment has been clearly dead for twenty years and more, given our participation in Abu Ghraib and GITMO. Hell, the 1-6 “insurrectionists” don’t even get Geneva-style protections and they’re Americans in American jails (1-6 was a clown show, not an insurrection, MHO).
Given all this, why the surprise at what the most vicious thugs on the battlefield have been doing to the Russian kids they catch and the citizens of Donbas for the past ten years? For that matter, we trained them to do it anyway. I know I always ask “why the surprise?” at the various depravities, financial and otherwise, but Jesus, they don’t even bother to cover it up anymore, even as they perpetrate them right under the authorities’ noses. Maybe I’m just a cynical soul as I age out. But it shows how ill-served we are by the authorities when they express surprise at what we all see in plain site.
Well Jim, as I try to point out over and over again, the reason why “they don’t even bother to cover it up anymore’ is simple – there is no longer any free press in the United States. The entire media was taken over by a few corporations and is now totally controlled by them and what they want written.
When FM Rommel found out the SS was executing Allied prisoners, he was dismayed. He said something to the effect that now that the enemy knows he will be killed if he surrenders, they will fight to the death.
Those Ukraine Nazis are nothing like the German Nazis. The Ukrainian Nazis are just plain stupid on so many levels.
Their injustice towards the People of Donbas will wipe their country off the map. Literally.
And now we have a looming revisit to the Kosovo conflict. Russia tried to do the smart thing in 2000 by having tried to carve away though UNMIK zone assignments the Serb majority Mitrovica from Kosovo, knowing NATO’s approach was a poorly thought out half measure and Mitrovica was bound to ignite again.
I have less than zero confidence in any decision western powers take in times of conflict. I’m convinced now that they are beyond salvation.
I agree . EU is crazy to breed Nazis again in the middle of Europe. They think ukro Nazis are their pet, well it’s a rabid pet and will turn on its masters when Ukraine is destroyed, funds are drained, and ukronazi got weapons of all kinds on hand, and EU is plump for pillaging.
Himars to Poland makes me think that the USA is planning for it to be the next Ukraine. It should be around late 2023 when all the angles have played out in Ukraine (defeat on the battlefield is just the beginning). It will be time then for Poland to poke the bear — perhaps by attempting to annex Western Ukraine. It’s a way to keep the Russians engaged, keep sanctions going, and a way of weakening the Poles who haven’t been a cooperative partner in NATO or the EU. It would take care of “killing” two birds with one stone.
What I don’t think they’re considering that there will be some very angry Nazis from Western Ukraine or maybe in Europe, who will be left when some kind of deal is worked out, and they have A LOT of black market war weapons. I think the West believes that they will continue an insurgency against Russia, and Poland will get involved and then annex Western Ukraine in the end. But the Nazis can just as easily point those weapons the other way at Western Europe who “stabbed them in the back”.
There is a shocking lack of logical, long-term thinking in the West. I think this is a symptom of a dying empire.
Why would they care about Western Europe? As long as the blowback doesn’t target the US directly they don’t care. They want a reply of WW2 – both Russia and Europe got trashed and the US made out like bandits.
“There is a shocking lack of logical, long-term thinking in the West. I think this is a symptom of a dying empire.”
I had pretty much totally checked out of mainstream media back then, but I do remember thinking; “what the hell was that all about?”
I didn’t even find out a war was going on over there already for eight years, until long after this Ukrainian tragic comedy was well under way.
Maybe, it was common knowledge, but maybe it was uncommon.
Barbara… when you say: There is a shocking lack of logical, long-term thinking in the West.
I would like you to consider that those old moneyed interests of Europe have always been behind mankind’s misery since the Bank of England was chartered in 1694. It is the deal they made with devil, literally.
I agree . EU is crazy to breed Nazis again in the middle of Europe. They think ukro Nazis are their pet, well it’s a rabid pet and will turn on its masters when Ukraine is destroyed, funds are drained, and ukronazi got weapons of all kinds on hand, and EU is plump for pillaging.
Between February 1940 and June 1943 and 24 Essex-class carriers were completed. At the war’s end, the US has 28 fleet carriers and more than 70 other escort carriers of various designations plying the world’s oceans.
Also, more than 2,700 Liberty ships were built during the war, the venerable cargo vessels that ended up transporting more than two-thirds of our war fighting material to the disparate and innumerable theaters of war. Construction time for those puppies was roughly 40 days, and we even built one, just to show off, in less than 5!
Bending steel, at one time we were the best! Puts into perspective how colossal the China undertaking is at the moment, as that nation-state bends more steel every 5 years than the US has in its entire existence.
And as an American, I don’t even want to think about concrete, because every two years China pours more concrete than my country has since our first major concrete pour in 1891.
It is laughable to think that we are competition with China in any meaningful way, if you are one that believes we live on a planet in a universe, and that planet, in its current configuration, is divided into nation-states.
Neo-liberalism is, by definition, treason.
Excellent interview. I like the part were you ask, what are we going to do, put some 155’s on the Chinese mainland and reduce them with our artillery?
It would take, by my calculations, 40 years to reduce just one of Shanghai’s dozens of outer suburbs, if we decided to go that root.
My goodness, have you seen their cities? From a military perspective, as in, we need to clear that city out and we’re going to do it block by block and street by street, well, one thing for a battle captain to consider before such an attack, take any one of China’s 100 largest cities and they all make Mariupol look like a lonely farmhouse out in middle of nowhere.
Whether it be Japan, China, S. Korea, even N. Korea (for weapons) or Vietnam, the Asian cooperative mindset is far better geared to turbocharged development, once the proper stage is set, than the western model, where ‘putting your nose to the grindstone’ is just a quaint phrase from the 1800’s.
I remember the 80’s, when articles appeared everyday about the Japanese tiger overtaking our industries and either emulate or perish. Had they not been an ally, they’d have been relegated to the China treatment long ago. At this stage, the western globalist model is simply to dominate competitors by integration or perish.
If china continues to sit on the sidelines and Russia loses, a Western hireling will be installed in Russia who will cut China off Natural resources 100% and China is screwed. China’s better rethink it’s “just business” neutrality here or they will have no business. The whole US proxy war vs Russia was about China not Russia anyway. Russia just wouldnt be a vassal and help wreck China so Putin had to go.
I believe the Chinese leadership knows this, which is why they are being very careful. They know that any misstep will cost them their economic future. NATO’s success in Ukraine will embolden them to start interfering in the Pacific, this is the last thing China wants. They have a vested interest in making sure that NATO does not succeed in Ukraine. But this is a very tricky thing, even for Chinese leaders.
“Zelensky losing credibility; is this guy dangerous?”
“We’re on the road to disaster”
On 59th anniversary of JFK assassination, may be worth a quick look back: fate of S. Vietnam President Diem; killed 21 days prior to JFK, on Nov. 1, 1963.
This, in light of heightened conversations occurring [Thank you very much Larry for this interview with Craig Simpson] on any similarity? viz Zelensky, — similarity? viz. USA overlords’ conceptions and perceptions of his respective usefulness to what passed for then, as now: USA Foreign Policy, and its military status, function and role, etc.
This includes Aug. 26, 1963 meeting:
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(President Kennedy): If we’re unsuccessful here, and these generals don’t do anything, then we have to deal with Diem as he is, and Nhu as he is. Then the question, what do we do to protect our own prestige and also to make it- see if we can have this thing continue on successfully? Do you have any thought about that?
(Roger Hilsman): It’s pretty horrible to contemplate, sir… I- Nhu is basically anti-American. I- there’s an element of emotional unstability here, I think. I think our position will be increasingly difficult. But also, and most important, is that everyone in the field, and here, too, agree with them; that what you will have in the wake of the desecration of the pagodas and everything is a drifting away of these key, cadre fellows in the army, and that the situation will rapidly worsen.
(Dean Rusk): Mr. President, I think that the choice we have to make there is that unless there’s a major change in Diem and Nhu’s approach to this whole internal problem, is to look at the fact that we’re on the road to disaster, and whether we’d rather take it by our choice, or be driven out by a complete deterioration of the situation in Vietnam, or move in such forces as would involve our taking over the country. And… so most of those are the big decisions we have to make. I don’t think we have-
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(President Kennedy): Let’s… do you have any- I think we ought to get- following along with what Secretary McNamara says. It seems to me we ought to send a message down to Lodge and Harkins on these… I don’t think we ought to let the coup… maybe they know about it, maybe the generals are going to have to run out of the country; maybe we’re going to have to help them get out of there. Still, that’s not a good enough reason to go ahead, if we don’t think the prospects are good enough. I don’t think we’re in that deep, but I’m not sure the generals are. They’ve been probably bellyaching for months, so that I don’t know whether they’re- how many of them are really up to here. So I don’t see any reason to go ahead, unless we think we got a good chance of success. So I think we finally have to put it on Lodge and Harkins to tell us whether they-
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(Frederick Nolting): Isn’t our real sanction here for whether or not we continue U.S. support? And, uh, it would seem to me that one way of posing this question is whether we should tell Diem, or, alternatively, the generals, that we could not continue U.S. support, except under certain modified, different circumstances of government. I must say it seems to me that the proper attitude, action of the U.S. government under any situation would be to tell the chief of state this directly. We could tell him at the same time, that is, if… which won’t be news to him, that the majority of his military leaders feel the same way… and ask him what he wants.
(President Kennedy): Of course if we- we’re not really in a position to withdraw. If he doesn’t accept, then we- for us to go through with that would be pretty hard, wouldn’t it… withdraw our assistance, and pull out Americans?
(Dean Rusk): I think the stakes are very high here. If you- when you make that move and fail, then you have to be ready to expect that he will throw you out.
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This Millercenter.org report includes link to Oct. 29, 1963 memorandum/summary of this day’s meeting and well worth the read:
Larry, Very much enjoyed the interview and I agree that the German people are going to demand new leadership, soon, and likely will turn from NATO. But how do you envision the unraveling of NATO? Peaceful as in how France kicked NATO out of France? Or violent?
Stinger, Javelin, TOW, HARM, and HIMARS missiles, but Russia is still in the fight. Ukraine has out spent and out mobilized the Russian military, but Russia is still in the fight. You can repeatedly lie to a westerner, it’s the most reliable thing about them, the indolence of the western brain has no match.
“in the fight” is not enough. You’re talking a 40 trillion economies (the west) vs a 2-3 trillion one. Just a matter of time before those 40 trillions economies build factories and out produce the smaller one. West was caught with it’s pants down and thought Russia would fold quickly nor have enough arms to compete with NATO deliveries. That was wrong assumption but can be rectified over time. Russia made a massive mistake not going in hard no with enough troops and leveling the place. Thought they’d be greeted with flowers I guess. That was Russia’s wrong assumption being rectified with mobilization and finally hitting critical infrastructure but it’s not enough to make Ukraine quit. Unless this winter they mount something big I think Russia will eventually no longer be “in the fight”. It’s allies suck and sit on their hands while Ukraine’s allies are all in.
When Obama asked Steve Jobs some years back if Apple factories could be repatriated to US soil, the former president did not get a positive answer. So, it may not be as simple as that. The corporate world decides where factories should be built, i.e., where cost is lowest so that profit margin is highest. Given Kiev is where Russia originated, going in hard and leveling it would be unforgivable. This complicates the mission, but Moscow accepted it. Does anyone really want to see Russia treat Ukraine they way the US treat Iraq last time? There is an element of human psychology here too: some 10 million people (from Donbas to Crimea) have declared that their love and loyalty now lie with Moscow, and not Kiev. Once this is factored in, I think Russia will continue to be “in the fight”. No one would give flowers to Russian troops because “collaborators” were not treated kindly by the Ukrainian army. What Russia got instead was favorable votes during the referendum last time, which I suppose could substitute for flowers. Russia’s allies suck because, unlike NATO, their alliance is a truly defensive one. Since Kiev is not invading Russia, they don’t see any reason to do anything.
The roman commanders let the men kill them all if they had played especially dirty during the battle. If that didn’t happen they were sold as slaves so there was a motive not to do it as usually the soldiers usually got a cut.
Yes the romans had POW camps chained up for a life of hard labor to the highest bidder.
I find it so ironic that our lefties are supporting this gov’t in Ukraine. The MSM lying about everything nothing new there.
Mondo Cane:
I read Zbig’s The Grand Chessboard (1997) over the past month. If I recall correctly, and I believe I am, everyone in Eurasia it to become part of NATO—except Russia. How would a country like Russia feel? I think the Russians have it figured this out. Looks like the Zbig plan to me. This guy was a National Security advisor to Carter and Obama. The book is like reading inside the mind of a megalomaniac, which of course, is what these globalists are.
I am a big admirer of Larry’s site and excellent his reporting. However, in this video, I head a double standard.
Larry talks about German and Japanese war atrocities in WWII, but is he aware of what Eisenhower and the US military did in the Rhine Meadow Camps (Rheinwiesenlager) to German POWs after they surrendered and were put in barbwire camps in the open air? No food, no water, no shelter for 6 months. Thousands died of starvation and disease.
Officially named Prisoner of War Temporary Enclosures (PWTE), they held between one and almost two million surrendered Wehrmacht personnel from April until September 1945. Throughout the summer of 1945, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) was prevented from visiting prisoners in any of the Allies’ Rheinwiesenlager. Visits were started only in the autumn of 1945, at a time when most camps had closed or were closing. On 4 February 1946 the Red Cross was allowed to send relief to those in the U.S. run occupation zone. The International Red Cross website states “The quantities received by the ICRC for these captives remained very small, however. During their visits, the delegates observed that German prisoners of war were often detained in appalling conditions.
In 2003, historian Richard Dominic Wiggers argued that the Allies violated international law regarding the feeding of enemy civilians, and that they both directly and indirectly caused the unnecessary suffering and death of large numbers of civilians and prisoners in occupied Germany, guided partly by a spirit of postwar vengeance when creating the circumstances that contributed to their deaths.
I’m reading a book called, “Crimes and Mercies” by James Bacque which tells the history of the deaths of 9 million+ German civilians and soldiers who died because of allied starvation and expulsion policies in the 5 years after WWII. This is repressed history in America and Ron Unz has covered the censorship of these historical facts in his “American Pravada” series at his unz.com website
I am only asking for an honest treatment of history for all of our fellow human beings.
The Dresden bombing was up there in the sheer horror and mass murder of innocent civilians using firestorms. Then we have Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There is plenty of blame to go around, but our court historians in the West only focus on the brutality of one side. This is my only point. New information has come out since the fall of the Soviet Union. One of the best perspectives was written by Sean McMeekin’s book, “Stalin’s War”.
In other words, even if it had lost catastrophically at the Battle of Midway, the United States Navy still would have broken even with Japan in carriers and naval air power by about September 1943. Nine months later, by the middle of 1944, the U.S. Navy would have enjoyed a nearly two-to-one superiority in carrier aircraft capacity!
this shows why the japanese were never in a position to invade pearl harbour; even if they had destroyed the us carriers on dec 7th, 1941 or won a total victory at midway. They simply did not have the logistics to complete and maintain an invasian.
i believe the only chance the japanese had of stalemating the usa in the pacific was on dec 7th to destroy the pear harbour airfields, docking, repair and refueling facilities. if they could have put the base out of action for 6 months the fleet would have had to retire back to san diego leaving the pacific essentially to the japanese. By not going all out and launching a 3rd wave it cost the japanese dearly in the long run. hindsight is of course 20-20.
when i think of the suicide run of the yamato at okinawa; reminds me of what would happen to a modern day american carrier task force if it encountered a hail of hypersonic missles and or hypercavitating torpedos.
the main problem that the usa and the west have is that in terms of their economic wartime production potential against russia and china are know reversed. Compared to these 2 countries the usa of 2022 has know become like the japan of 1941 in terms of war production capabilities
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this is from gonzola lira on his assesment of douglas murrays trip to kherson. very frank language used.
2022.11.21 Why I Despise Douglas Murray and Other Such Propagandists
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this vid shows a different story about the iranian girl in iran that we were told was killed by the police . have no idea on how authentic this video is.
A LOT of great comments here, which I found hugely informative. Of particular importance I think is “Down South”‘s comment that fascist atrocities and brainwashing in the Ukraine mandate only one outcome — “demolition” of the Ukrainian state. With that must come trials and tribunals to define and redefine boundaries and re-orient public consciousness. There can be no forgiveness without repentance and restorative justice. So, talk of a negotiated” peace is out.
Putin famously called the US “Empire of Lies”.
None of the lies of Ukraine would matter if not repeated and magnified by the Western media. These lies are welcomed if not out and out manufactured by the West.
Highly recommend this latest discourse between Mercouris and Diesen re: the EU’s transition from original beginnings as an economic bloc to a political bloc, creeping authoritarianism within the EU as it simultaneously surrenders to US ‘interests’, and as it nears the apex of its recruitment drive, relies more on the stick vs the carrot in maintaining an orthodox comformity….. and how it’s all come to a head in Ukraine.
https://theduran.com/neocon-takeover-of-eu-nears-completion-w-glenn-diesen-live/
If you really want to know how the EU/NATO bloc sees itself, just ask yourself two basic questions:
1) Why the EU has rushed to expand in Europe post ’91 but has rejected Turkey for umpteen years.
2) Why NATO has rushed to expand in Europe and beyond post ’91 but rejected Russia for umpteen years.
Why so many people want Turkey to enter the EU????
Where are you from, Mondo Cane??
Are you european???
I’m spanish. I have lived also 7 years in Germany.
I have never met an european who wants Turkey to join the EU.
Never.
You are mixing 1 and 2. Inside your head it seems reasonable, right?
But only there.
You are mixing 1 and 2. Inside your head it seems reasonable, right?
But only there.
Not at all. There is a common juncture of 1 & 2. See if you can find it.
Turkey applied decades ago and had been strung along almost as long. Turkey’s abandoned the notion, exactly for the reason you stated – no European welcomes it. But why? That’s the key. The answer lies outside the cultural & religious and even the economic envelope.
I’ll give you a hint: What do Brussels and Washington have in common?
Sir, I can feel your pain.
However if Turkey and the Turkish people are so despicable for the European values, then why have them in the NATO in the first place?
I can tell you why : Because Turkey has a real army compared to the rest of the Europe and the Lords of the Europe thought that Turkey is a good battering ram against Russia.
It seems to me that the grand master Putin some how coopted Turks and they are slowly moving away from NATO. It is a very slow process but it is a possible outcome. You can’t use people and believe the BS you dole out to them forever.
I would take Vladimir Putin’s word over that of the political whores and professional liars at “Russian Collusion!!!” CNN.
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On Ukrainian ideology and the root causes of POW execution near Makiivka
RT war correspondent Murad Gazdiev @msgazdiev published a story with an interview with a former fighter of the 80th Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU from Lviv, whose members executed Russian captives in Makiivka in the LNR.
Our team managed to identify five members of the massacre of Russian servicemen: Artur Bortnichuk, Nazar Mikhailovsky, Andrey Sokol, Bogdan Kovgan, and Nikita Maltsev. But the man in the frame tells us what motivated them.
He mentions things already known, like the work of US information and psychological operations specialists with the compound’s personnel or orders to shell civilian infrastructure in Donbass.
However, there is a key point: an ex-serviceman of the AFU emphasizes that hatred towards everything Russian was inculcated in the 80 Brigade long before the large-scale hostilities.
And this seemingly small detail is extremely important. After all, it once again reminds us that hatred towards Russia and everything Russian in Ukraine was cultivated at all levels. With the beginning of the UAS, it just got out and showed itself in full force.
That is why there is virtually no reflection in Ukrainian society on the AFU’s shelling of residential areas with “petal mines”, where people in all seriousness believe in the “self-shooting” of Donetsk.
That is why the rank-and-file soldiers of the Ukrainian armed forces shoot prisoners in the legs near Kharkiv on camera, cut the throats of the wounded near Kyiv, and execute civilians without trial, outstripping any so-called “national battalion” in their brutality.
That is why the townspeople easily demolish monuments to figures of the distant past, who lived hundreds of years before Ukraine itself was formed, and vote for a ban on the Russian language, which they themselves speak.
And that is why peaceful coexistence with Ukraine is simply not possible under any circumstances – its ingrained local ideology is fundamentally not an option. As it stands, the country poses a constant threat to Russia.
And the only real way to eliminate it is a complete military defeat of the AFU, followed by the demolition of Ukrainian statehood. There are no other ways right now.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/21618
Posted by: Down South | Nov 22 2022 4:24 utc | 203
It is really tragic. To sow hatred only opens the door to many evils, which ultimately consumes those who opened the door.
Those that sow hatred sit safely in Washington/London/etc. out of reach of evil, and will die in a mansion of natural causes. If you don’t believe me, ask Madeleine Albright.
‘Out of reach of evil’?!!!
They ARE evil. They are the very heart of this evil in the World today.
They are indeed personification of evil, but they don’t do evil stuff to themselves. Madeleine & co. exported it all across the ocean to Iraqi kids and others, and got away with it.
Sorry, too late. Albright’s dead.
Yep. That’s the point.
Excellent.
Young Craig is good, professional style and conversational presentation. Another learning experience and generally depressing but distant light at the end of the tunnel.
Interesting exchange. Thank you Mr. Johnson for sharing it.
And thank you to “ralph says 22 November 2022 at 00:51” for the download link. I don’t run scripts on my machine and couldn’t see the video in the post.
Don’t think there are any other armed force besides Ukrainian and some pisslim terrorists like hezbollah and the gaza fakestineans that regularly sport nazi symbols including swastikas.
ukrainia is a mafia country full of nazis.
Venezuerican corruption there is considerable.
This war has been a distraction for Venezuerican consumption besides a cover up for government corruption since the start.
How to imagine the current situation of the vast leftoxenomorph machine all around Venezuerica and the effort of so many non-leftoxenomorphs to try and fight against the poisonous maggots?
A cloud of Chihuahuas yapping around the feet of a T-Rx that doesn’t pay too much attention to them and goes about its business undeterred because the little punks can’t even bite its thick skin with any effectiveness.
And from time to time the pitiful last cry of one or a few of them as the T-Rex crashes them to death underfoot without even noticing.
It’s a disgraceful image.
My hope is that the Russians step on the ukies like the nazi filth they are.
(noticed a considerable amount of audio distortion in my copy of the video.)
I guess you have slept trough Yugoslav wars.
Good stuff as always, Larry. The kid’s a good interviewer. As to the issue of POWs, the Geneva Convention as regards their treatment has been clearly dead for twenty years and more, given our participation in Abu Ghraib and GITMO. Hell, the 1-6 “insurrectionists” don’t even get Geneva-style protections and they’re Americans in American jails (1-6 was a clown show, not an insurrection, MHO).
Given all this, why the surprise at what the most vicious thugs on the battlefield have been doing to the Russian kids they catch and the citizens of Donbas for the past ten years? For that matter, we trained them to do it anyway. I know I always ask “why the surprise?” at the various depravities, financial and otherwise, but Jesus, they don’t even bother to cover it up anymore, even as they perpetrate them right under the authorities’ noses. Maybe I’m just a cynical soul as I age out. But it shows how ill-served we are by the authorities when they express surprise at what we all see in plain site.
Well Jim, as I try to point out over and over again, the reason why “they don’t even bother to cover it up anymore’ is simple – there is no longer any free press in the United States. The entire media was taken over by a few corporations and is now totally controlled by them and what they want written.
When FM Rommel found out the SS was executing Allied prisoners, he was dismayed. He said something to the effect that now that the enemy knows he will be killed if he surrenders, they will fight to the death.
Those Ukraine Nazis are nothing like the German Nazis. The Ukrainian Nazis are just plain stupid on so many levels.
Their injustice towards the People of Donbas will wipe their country off the map. Literally.
Certainly looking that way, isn’t it?
And now we have a looming revisit to the Kosovo conflict. Russia tried to do the smart thing in 2000 by having tried to carve away though UNMIK zone assignments the Serb majority Mitrovica from Kosovo, knowing NATO’s approach was a poorly thought out half measure and Mitrovica was bound to ignite again.
I have less than zero confidence in any decision western powers take in times of conflict. I’m convinced now that they are beyond salvation.
I agree . EU is crazy to breed Nazis again in the middle of Europe. They think ukro Nazis are their pet, well it’s a rabid pet and will turn on its masters when Ukraine is destroyed, funds are drained, and ukronazi got weapons of all kinds on hand, and EU is plump for pillaging.
Himars to Poland makes me think that the USA is planning for it to be the next Ukraine. It should be around late 2023 when all the angles have played out in Ukraine (defeat on the battlefield is just the beginning). It will be time then for Poland to poke the bear — perhaps by attempting to annex Western Ukraine. It’s a way to keep the Russians engaged, keep sanctions going, and a way of weakening the Poles who haven’t been a cooperative partner in NATO or the EU. It would take care of “killing” two birds with one stone.
What I don’t think they’re considering that there will be some very angry Nazis from Western Ukraine or maybe in Europe, who will be left when some kind of deal is worked out, and they have A LOT of black market war weapons. I think the West believes that they will continue an insurgency against Russia, and Poland will get involved and then annex Western Ukraine in the end. But the Nazis can just as easily point those weapons the other way at Western Europe who “stabbed them in the back”.
There is a shocking lack of logical, long-term thinking in the West. I think this is a symptom of a dying empire.
Why would they care about Western Europe? As long as the blowback doesn’t target the US directly they don’t care. They want a reply of WW2 – both Russia and Europe got trashed and the US made out like bandits.
“There is a shocking lack of logical, long-term thinking in the West. I think this is a symptom of a dying empire.”
I had pretty much totally checked out of mainstream media back then, but I do remember thinking; “what the hell was that all about?”
I didn’t even find out a war was going on over there already for eight years, until long after this Ukrainian tragic comedy was well under way.
Maybe, it was common knowledge, but maybe it was uncommon.
I didn’t even find out a war was going on over there already for eight years, until long after this Ukrainian tragic comedy was well under way.
Nobody to blame for that but yourself.
Barbara… when you say: There is a shocking lack of logical, long-term thinking in the West.
I would like you to consider that those old moneyed interests of Europe have always been behind mankind’s misery since the Bank of England was chartered in 1694. It is the deal they made with devil, literally.
I agree . EU is crazy to breed Nazis again in the middle of Europe. They think ukro Nazis are their pet, well it’s a rabid pet and will turn on its masters when Ukraine is destroyed, funds are drained, and ukronazi got weapons of all kinds on hand, and EU is plump for pillaging.
Between February 1940 and June 1943 and 24 Essex-class carriers were completed. At the war’s end, the US has 28 fleet carriers and more than 70 other escort carriers of various designations plying the world’s oceans.
Also, more than 2,700 Liberty ships were built during the war, the venerable cargo vessels that ended up transporting more than two-thirds of our war fighting material to the disparate and innumerable theaters of war. Construction time for those puppies was roughly 40 days, and we even built one, just to show off, in less than 5!
Bending steel, at one time we were the best! Puts into perspective how colossal the China undertaking is at the moment, as that nation-state bends more steel every 5 years than the US has in its entire existence.
And as an American, I don’t even want to think about concrete, because every two years China pours more concrete than my country has since our first major concrete pour in 1891.
It is laughable to think that we are competition with China in any meaningful way, if you are one that believes we live on a planet in a universe, and that planet, in its current configuration, is divided into nation-states.
Neo-liberalism is, by definition, treason.
Excellent interview. I like the part were you ask, what are we going to do, put some 155’s on the Chinese mainland and reduce them with our artillery?
It would take, by my calculations, 40 years to reduce just one of Shanghai’s dozens of outer suburbs, if we decided to go that root.
My goodness, have you seen their cities? From a military perspective, as in, we need to clear that city out and we’re going to do it block by block and street by street, well, one thing for a battle captain to consider before such an attack, take any one of China’s 100 largest cities and they all make Mariupol look like a lonely farmhouse out in middle of nowhere.
Whether it be Japan, China, S. Korea, even N. Korea (for weapons) or Vietnam, the Asian cooperative mindset is far better geared to turbocharged development, once the proper stage is set, than the western model, where ‘putting your nose to the grindstone’ is just a quaint phrase from the 1800’s.
I remember the 80’s, when articles appeared everyday about the Japanese tiger overtaking our industries and either emulate or perish. Had they not been an ally, they’d have been relegated to the China treatment long ago. At this stage, the western globalist model is simply to dominate competitors by integration or perish.
If china continues to sit on the sidelines and Russia loses, a Western hireling will be installed in Russia who will cut China off Natural resources 100% and China is screwed. China’s better rethink it’s “just business” neutrality here or they will have no business. The whole US proxy war vs Russia was about China not Russia anyway. Russia just wouldnt be a vassal and help wreck China so Putin had to go.
I believe the Chinese leadership knows this, which is why they are being very careful. They know that any misstep will cost them their economic future. NATO’s success in Ukraine will embolden them to start interfering in the Pacific, this is the last thing China wants. They have a vested interest in making sure that NATO does not succeed in Ukraine. But this is a very tricky thing, even for Chinese leaders.
“Zelensky losing credibility; is this guy dangerous?”
“We’re on the road to disaster”
On 59th anniversary of JFK assassination, may be worth a quick look back: fate of S. Vietnam President Diem; killed 21 days prior to JFK, on Nov. 1, 1963.
This, in light of heightened conversations occurring [Thank you very much Larry for this interview with Craig Simpson] on any similarity? viz Zelensky, — similarity? viz. USA overlords’ conceptions and perceptions of his respective usefulness to what passed for then, as now: USA Foreign Policy, and its military status, function and role, etc.
Below, from/courtesy of https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/educational-resources/diem-coup
This includes Aug. 26, 1963 meeting:
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(President Kennedy): If we’re unsuccessful here, and these generals don’t do anything, then we have to deal with Diem as he is, and Nhu as he is. Then the question, what do we do to protect our own prestige and also to make it- see if we can have this thing continue on successfully? Do you have any thought about that?
(Roger Hilsman): It’s pretty horrible to contemplate, sir… I- Nhu is basically anti-American. I- there’s an element of emotional unstability here, I think. I think our position will be increasingly difficult. But also, and most important, is that everyone in the field, and here, too, agree with them; that what you will have in the wake of the desecration of the pagodas and everything is a drifting away of these key, cadre fellows in the army, and that the situation will rapidly worsen.
(Dean Rusk): Mr. President, I think that the choice we have to make there is that unless there’s a major change in Diem and Nhu’s approach to this whole internal problem, is to look at the fact that we’re on the road to disaster, and whether we’d rather take it by our choice, or be driven out by a complete deterioration of the situation in Vietnam, or move in such forces as would involve our taking over the country. And… so most of those are the big decisions we have to make. I don’t think we have-
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(President Kennedy): Let’s… do you have any- I think we ought to get- following along with what Secretary McNamara says. It seems to me we ought to send a message down to Lodge and Harkins on these… I don’t think we ought to let the coup… maybe they know about it, maybe the generals are going to have to run out of the country; maybe we’re going to have to help them get out of there. Still, that’s not a good enough reason to go ahead, if we don’t think the prospects are good enough. I don’t think we’re in that deep, but I’m not sure the generals are. They’ve been probably bellyaching for months, so that I don’t know whether they’re- how many of them are really up to here. So I don’t see any reason to go ahead, unless we think we got a good chance of success. So I think we finally have to put it on Lodge and Harkins to tell us whether they-
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(Frederick Nolting): Isn’t our real sanction here for whether or not we continue U.S. support? And, uh, it would seem to me that one way of posing this question is whether we should tell Diem, or, alternatively, the generals, that we could not continue U.S. support, except under certain modified, different circumstances of government. I must say it seems to me that the proper attitude, action of the U.S. government under any situation would be to tell the chief of state this directly. We could tell him at the same time, that is, if… which won’t be news to him, that the majority of his military leaders feel the same way… and ask him what he wants.
(President Kennedy): Of course if we- we’re not really in a position to withdraw. If he doesn’t accept, then we- for us to go through with that would be pretty hard, wouldn’t it… withdraw our assistance, and pull out Americans?
(Dean Rusk): I think the stakes are very high here. If you- when you make that move and fail, then you have to be ready to expect that he will throw you out.
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This Millercenter.org report includes link to Oct. 29, 1963 memorandum/summary of this day’s meeting and well worth the read:
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB101/vn19.pdf
This Millercenter webpage includes link to RFK’s view on the Diem matter.
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INSIDE AMERICAS HEAD the Nazi/ Marxist live rent free.
Fear not the bear or the panda it’s the traitors within and the pied pipers of Hamelin! Money money money.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/app-store-gatekeepers-urged-deplatform-dangerous-twitter-itself
Larry, Very much enjoyed the interview and I agree that the German people are going to demand new leadership, soon, and likely will turn from NATO. But how do you envision the unraveling of NATO? Peaceful as in how France kicked NATO out of France? Or violent?
Stinger, Javelin, TOW, HARM, and HIMARS missiles, but Russia is still in the fight. Ukraine has out spent and out mobilized the Russian military, but Russia is still in the fight. You can repeatedly lie to a westerner, it’s the most reliable thing about them, the indolence of the western brain has no match.
“in the fight” is not enough. You’re talking a 40 trillion economies (the west) vs a 2-3 trillion one. Just a matter of time before those 40 trillions economies build factories and out produce the smaller one. West was caught with it’s pants down and thought Russia would fold quickly nor have enough arms to compete with NATO deliveries. That was wrong assumption but can be rectified over time. Russia made a massive mistake not going in hard no with enough troops and leveling the place. Thought they’d be greeted with flowers I guess. That was Russia’s wrong assumption being rectified with mobilization and finally hitting critical infrastructure but it’s not enough to make Ukraine quit. Unless this winter they mount something big I think Russia will eventually no longer be “in the fight”. It’s allies suck and sit on their hands while Ukraine’s allies are all in.
When Obama asked Steve Jobs some years back if Apple factories could be repatriated to US soil, the former president did not get a positive answer. So, it may not be as simple as that. The corporate world decides where factories should be built, i.e., where cost is lowest so that profit margin is highest. Given Kiev is where Russia originated, going in hard and leveling it would be unforgivable. This complicates the mission, but Moscow accepted it. Does anyone really want to see Russia treat Ukraine they way the US treat Iraq last time? There is an element of human psychology here too: some 10 million people (from Donbas to Crimea) have declared that their love and loyalty now lie with Moscow, and not Kiev. Once this is factored in, I think Russia will continue to be “in the fight”. No one would give flowers to Russian troops because “collaborators” were not treated kindly by the Ukrainian army. What Russia got instead was favorable votes during the referendum last time, which I suppose could substitute for flowers. Russia’s allies suck because, unlike NATO, their alliance is a truly defensive one. Since Kiev is not invading Russia, they don’t see any reason to do anything.
The roman commanders let the men kill them all if they had played especially dirty during the battle. If that didn’t happen they were sold as slaves so there was a motive not to do it as usually the soldiers usually got a cut.
Yes the romans had POW camps chained up for a life of hard labor to the highest bidder.
I find it so ironic that our lefties are supporting this gov’t in Ukraine. The MSM lying about everything nothing new there.
Mondo Cane:
I read Zbig’s The Grand Chessboard (1997) over the past month. If I recall correctly, and I believe I am, everyone in Eurasia it to become part of NATO—except Russia. How would a country like Russia feel? I think the Russians have it figured this out. Looks like the Zbig plan to me. This guy was a National Security advisor to Carter and Obama. The book is like reading inside the mind of a megalomaniac, which of course, is what these globalists are.
Then today I see this. Looks like permanent war: New Strategic Era
https://antibellum679354512.wordpress.com/2022/11/22/new-strategic-era-nato-to-absorb-bosnia-georgia-moldova-ukraine-help-liberate-occupied-territories/
I am a big admirer of Larry’s site and excellent his reporting. However, in this video, I head a double standard.
Larry talks about German and Japanese war atrocities in WWII, but is he aware of what Eisenhower and the US military did in the Rhine Meadow Camps (Rheinwiesenlager) to German POWs after they surrendered and were put in barbwire camps in the open air? No food, no water, no shelter for 6 months. Thousands died of starvation and disease.
Officially named Prisoner of War Temporary Enclosures (PWTE), they held between one and almost two million surrendered Wehrmacht personnel from April until September 1945. Throughout the summer of 1945, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) was prevented from visiting prisoners in any of the Allies’ Rheinwiesenlager. Visits were started only in the autumn of 1945, at a time when most camps had closed or were closing. On 4 February 1946 the Red Cross was allowed to send relief to those in the U.S. run occupation zone. The International Red Cross website states “The quantities received by the ICRC for these captives remained very small, however. During their visits, the delegates observed that German prisoners of war were often detained in appalling conditions.
In 2003, historian Richard Dominic Wiggers argued that the Allies violated international law regarding the feeding of enemy civilians, and that they both directly and indirectly caused the unnecessary suffering and death of large numbers of civilians and prisoners in occupied Germany, guided partly by a spirit of postwar vengeance when creating the circumstances that contributed to their deaths.
Here is the account of an American soldier who witnessed this atrocity:
https://ww2gravestone.com/an-american-rhine-meadows-camp-guard-speaks-out/
I’m reading a book called, “Crimes and Mercies” by James Bacque which tells the history of the deaths of 9 million+ German civilians and soldiers who died because of allied starvation and expulsion policies in the 5 years after WWII. This is repressed history in America and Ron Unz has covered the censorship of these historical facts in his “American Pravada” series at his unz.com website
I am only asking for an honest treatment of history for all of our fellow human beings.
I was not suggesting that Allied hands were clean. But they did nothing comparable to the rape of Nanking or Auschwitz.
The Dresden bombing was up there in the sheer horror and mass murder of innocent civilians using firestorms. Then we have Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There is plenty of blame to go around, but our court historians in the West only focus on the brutality of one side. This is my only point. New information has come out since the fall of the Soviet Union. One of the best perspectives was written by Sean McMeekin’s book, “Stalin’s War”.
Thanks for your excellent site, sonar21.com.
Mr. johnson – your commentary on the capabilities of usa ww2 production for war was quite interesting. this is too essentially add to what you said.
this is an interesting site with allot of great history from the pacific theatre and showing allot of the japanese perspective.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm
this shows how in terms of economic production the japanese were totally overmatched
http://www.combinedfleet.com/economic.htm
In other words, even if it had lost catastrophically at the Battle of Midway, the United States Navy still would have broken even with Japan in carriers and naval air power by about September 1943. Nine months later, by the middle of 1944, the U.S. Navy would have enjoyed a nearly two-to-one superiority in carrier aircraft capacity!
this shows why the japanese were never in a position to invade pearl harbour; even if they had destroyed the us carriers on dec 7th, 1941 or won a total victory at midway. They simply did not have the logistics to complete and maintain an invasian.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/pearlops.htm
i believe the only chance the japanese had of stalemating the usa in the pacific was on dec 7th to destroy the pear harbour airfields, docking, repair and refueling facilities. if they could have put the base out of action for 6 months the fleet would have had to retire back to san diego leaving the pacific essentially to the japanese. By not going all out and launching a 3rd wave it cost the japanese dearly in the long run. hindsight is of course 20-20.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/japans-big-world-war-ii-mistake-not-doing-more-damage-pearl-harbor-185518
this is interesting in talking about ww2 battleships and which was the best.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm
when i think of the suicide run of the yamato at okinawa; reminds me of what would happen to a modern day american carrier task force if it encountered a hail of hypersonic missles and or hypercavitating torpedos.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/battles/Sinking_of_Yamato
allot of interesting articles here
http://www.combinedfleet.com/articles.htm
http://www.combinedfleet.com/turningp.htm
the main problem that the usa and the west have is that in terms of their economic wartime production potential against russia and china are know reversed. Compared to these 2 countries the usa of 2022 has know become like the japan of 1941 in terms of war production capabilities
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this is from gonzola lira on his assesment of douglas murrays trip to kherson. very frank language used.
2022.11.21 Why I Despise Douglas Murray and Other Such Propagandists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUW2SLz6_dk
https://odysee.com/@GonzaloLira:1/2022.11.21-Why-I-Despise-Douglas-Murray-and-Other-Such-Propagandists:b
this download right click and save link may or not work
https://player.odycdn.com/api/v3/streams/free/2022.11.21-Why-I-Despise-Douglas-Murray-and-Other-Such-Propagandists/bdb05c07360494f8021210f999d889c2bf8877a7/3b6c33.mp4
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this vid shows a different story about the iranian girl in iran that we were told was killed by the police . have no idea on how authentic this video is.
http://www.voterig.com/irangirl.mp4
regards,
ralph
A LOT of great comments here, which I found hugely informative. Of particular importance I think is “Down South”‘s comment that fascist atrocities and brainwashing in the Ukraine mandate only one outcome — “demolition” of the Ukrainian state. With that must come trials and tribunals to define and redefine boundaries and re-orient public consciousness. There can be no forgiveness without repentance and restorative justice. So, talk of a negotiated” peace is out.